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  scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help "Adam" <adam@no_thanks.com> - 2012-01-31 12:58 -0800
    Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help retsuhcs@xinap.moc (Mike S.) - 2012-01-31 21:18 +0000
      Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help "Adam" <adam@no_thanks.com> - 2012-01-31 13:30 -0800
        Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help "Adam" <adam@no_thanks.com> - 2012-01-31 19:09 -0800
      Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help "Adam" <adam@no_thanks.com> - 2012-01-31 14:44 -0800
    Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help BillW50 <BillW50@aol.kom> - 2012-01-31 15:33 -0600
      Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help BillW50 <BillW50@aol.kom> - 2012-01-31 16:07 -0600
        Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help "Dirk T. Verbeek" <dverbeek@xs4all.nl> - 2012-02-01 14:45 +0100
      Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help Aragorn <stryder@telenet.be.invalid> - 2012-01-31 23:55 +0100
        Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help Bob_Villa <pheeh.zero@gmail.com> - 2012-02-01 04:17 -0800
          Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help "BillW50" <BillW50@aol.kom> - 2012-02-01 17:08 -0600
            Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help Bob_Villa <pheeh.zero@gmail.com> - 2012-02-01 18:33 -0800
            Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help wrat@panix.com (the wharf rat) - 2012-02-06 12:07 +0000
      Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help wrat@panix.com (the wharf rat) - 2012-02-06 11:29 +0000
        Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help The_Giant_Rat_of_Sumatra <GeorgeTirebiter@drmemory.org> - 2012-02-06 04:12 -0800
        Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help William Poaster <wp@induh-vidual.net> - 2012-02-06 12:46 +0000
          Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help BillW50 <BillW50@aol.kom> - 2012-02-06 11:09 -0600
            Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help Bob_Villa <pheeh.zero@gmail.com> - 2012-02-06 12:42 -0800
        Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help BillW50 <BillW50@aol.kom> - 2012-02-06 12:00 -0600
          Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2012-02-06 12:51 -0600
            Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help BillW50 <BillW50@aol.kom> - 2012-02-06 15:57 -0600
              Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help "Jonathan N. Little" <lws4art@gmail.com> - 2012-02-06 17:34 -0500
                Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help BillW50 <BillW50@aol.kom> - 2012-02-06 17:20 -0600
                  Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help "Jonathan N. Little" <lws4art@gmail.com> - 2012-02-06 21:03 -0500
                  Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help Bob_Villa <pheeh.zero@gmail.com> - 2012-02-06 15:40 -0800
                Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help "Harry Vaderchi" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2012-02-23 09:08 +0000
              Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help Aragorn <stryder@telenet.be.invalid> - 2012-02-07 01:38 +0100
                Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help BillW50 <BillW50@aol.kom> - 2012-02-07 17:34 -0600
                  Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help "Jonathan N. Little" <lws4art@gmail.com> - 2012-02-07 19:10 -0500
                    Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help BillW50 <BillW50@aol.kom> - 2012-02-07 18:26 -0600
                      Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help Alias <aka@maskedandanonymous.net.invlad> - 2012-02-08 01:30 +0100
                      Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help Bob_Villa <pheeh.zero@gmail.com> - 2012-02-07 16:59 -0800
                        Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help BillW50 <BillW50@aol.kom> - 2012-02-07 19:49 -0600
                      Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help Aragorn <stryder@telenet.be.invalid> - 2012-02-08 06:38 +0100
                  Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help FatBytestard <PhatBytestard@somewheronyourharddrive.org> - 2012-02-07 18:44 -0800
                    Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help BillW50 <BillW50@aol.kom> - 2012-02-07 21:37 -0600
                      Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help "Jonathan N. Little" <lws4art@gmail.com> - 2012-02-07 23:01 -0500
                        Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help BillW50 <BillW50@aol.kom> - 2012-02-07 22:24 -0600
                          Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help "Jonathan N. Little" <lws4art@gmail.com> - 2012-02-08 00:10 -0500
                          Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@wizardstower> - 2012-02-08 00:20 -0600
                      Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help Aragorn <stryder@telenet.be.invalid> - 2012-02-08 06:44 +0100
                  Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help Aragorn <stryder@telenet.be.invalid> - 2012-02-08 06:35 +0100
                Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help BillW50 <BillW50@aol.kom> - 2012-02-07 20:42 -0600
                  Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help Aragorn <stryder@telenet.be.invalid> - 2012-02-08 06:57 +0100
          Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@wizardstower> - 2012-02-06 13:01 -0600
          Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help Dan C <youmustbejoking@lan.invalid> - 2012-02-06 23:18 +0000
            Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help BillW50 <BillW50@aol.kom> - 2012-02-06 17:39 -0600
              Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help Dan C <youmustbejoking@lan.invalid> - 2012-02-07 00:02 +0000
                Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help BillW50 <BillW50@aol.kom> - 2012-02-06 19:44 -0600
                  Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help Dan C <youmustbejoking@lan.invalid> - 2012-02-07 02:31 +0000
                    Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2012-02-06 23:46 -0500
                    Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help BillW50 <BillW50@aol.kom> - 2012-02-07 17:10 -0600
                      Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help Aragorn <stryder@telenet.be.invalid> - 2012-02-08 07:05 +0100
                  Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@wizardstower> - 2012-02-06 23:48 -0600
                    Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help BillW50 <BillW50@aol.kom> - 2012-02-07 17:11 -0600
                      Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help The_Giant_Rat_of_Sumatra <GeorgeTirebiter@drmemory.org> - 2012-02-07 18:35 -0800
                        Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help BillW50 <BillW50@aol.kom> - 2012-02-07 22:25 -0600
                          Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help The_Giant_Rat_of_Sumatra <GeorgeTirebiter@drmemory.org> - 2012-02-07 21:45 -0800
                          Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@wizardstower> - 2012-02-08 00:21 -0600
                      Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help Aragorn <stryder@telenet.be.invalid> - 2012-02-08 07:10 +0100
                  Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help Aragorn <stryder@telenet.be.invalid> - 2012-02-07 09:26 +0100
              Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help Aragorn <stryder@telenet.be.invalid> - 2012-02-07 01:46 +0100
              Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2012-02-06 23:43 -0500
                Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help Aragorn <stryder@telenet.be.invalid> - 2012-02-07 09:40 +0100
                Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help BillW50 <BillW50@aol.kom> - 2012-02-07 17:11 -0600
                  Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help Aragorn <stryder@telenet.be.invalid> - 2012-02-08 07:34 +0100
                    Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help Bob_Villa <pheeh.zero@gmail.com> - 2012-02-12 06:15 -0800
                      Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help "olfart" <olfart65@excite.com> - 2012-02-12 10:17 -0500
                        Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help Bob_Villa <pheeh.zero@gmail.com> - 2012-02-12 07:34 -0800
                Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help wrat@panix.com (the wharf rat) - 2012-02-08 17:18 +0000
    Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help MarkA <someone@somewhere.invalid> - 2012-02-01 14:45 -0500
      Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help "Adam" <adam@no_thanks.com> - 2012-02-01 12:25 -0800
        Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help Aragorn <stryder@telenet.be.invalid> - 2012-02-01 22:02 +0100
    Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help wrat@panix.com (the wharf rat) - 2012-02-01 22:06 +0000
      Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help "Jonathan N. Little" <lws4art@gmail.com> - 2012-02-01 17:57 -0500
      Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help "Adam" <adam@no_thanks.com> - 2012-02-01 15:12 -0800
        Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help "BillW50" <BillW50@aol.kom> - 2012-02-01 18:55 -0600
          Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help "Adam" <adam@no_thanks.com> - 2012-02-01 17:08 -0800
        Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help wrat@panix.com (the wharf rat) - 2012-02-06 12:08 +0000
          Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help The_Giant_Rat_of_Sumatra <GeorgeTirebiter@drmemory.org> - 2012-02-06 04:15 -0800
            Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help "Adam" <adam@no_thanks.com> - 2012-02-06 13:35 -0800

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#1086 — scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help

Host OS:    Ubuntu 10.04 LTS
System:    ASUS N61JQ (laptop)

Scan apps (like gscan2pdf, XSane Image Scanner, etc.) fail to
detect scanner device (HP ScanJet 6350Cxi) with headset plugged in.
As soon as I unplug the headset, scan apps work fine.

Any ideas?

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#1087

In article <jg9km4$19k$1@dont-email.me>, Adam <adam@no_thanks.com> wrote:
>Host OS:    Ubuntu 10.04 LTS
>System:    ASUS N61JQ (laptop)
>
>Scan apps (like gscan2pdf, XSane Image Scanner, etc.) fail to
>detect scanner device (HP ScanJet 6350Cxi) with headset plugged in.
>As soon as I unplug the headset, scan apps work fine.
>
>Any ideas?

What is the headet-to-PC interface?
Analog audio? USB?

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#1088

"Mike S." <retsuhcs@xinap.moc> wrote in message 
news:jg9lqf$e9h$1@reader1.panix.com...
>
> In article <jg9km4$19k$1@dont-email.me>, Adam <adam@no_thanks.com> wrote:
>>Host OS:    Ubuntu 10.04 LTS
>>System:    ASUS N61JQ (laptop)
>>
>>Scan apps (like gscan2pdf, XSane Image Scanner, etc.) fail to
>>detect scanner device (HP ScanJet 6350Cxi) with headset plugged in.
>>As soon as I unplug the headset, scan apps work fine.
>>
>>Any ideas?
>
> What is the headet-to-PC interface?
> Analog audio? USB?
>

Good question.  I am using the Sennheiser HD 202 (3.5 mm straight plug, 
according to box).

Connecting the scanner to a "different" USB port works fine with headset 
plugged in.
My guess is that the USB port "closest" to the headset port may be shared? 
If so,
this is not documented in the User Manual. But, I could be missing 
something.

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#1093

"Adam" <adam@no_thanks.com> wrote in message 
news:jg9mhb$dnm$1@dont-email.me...
>
> "Mike S." <retsuhcs@xinap.moc> wrote in message 
> news:jg9lqf$e9h$1@reader1.panix.com...
>>
>> In article <jg9km4$19k$1@dont-email.me>, Adam <adam@no_thanks.com> wrote:
>>>Host OS:    Ubuntu 10.04 LTS
>>>System:    ASUS N61JQ (laptop)
>>>
>>>Scan apps (like gscan2pdf, XSane Image Scanner, etc.) fail to
>>>detect scanner device (HP ScanJet 6350Cxi) with headset plugged in.
>>>As soon as I unplug the headset, scan apps work fine.
>>>
>>>Any ideas?
>>
>> What is the headet-to-PC interface?
>> Analog audio? USB?
>>
>
> Good question.  I am using the Sennheiser HD 202 (3.5 mm straight plug, 
> according to box).
>
> Connecting the scanner to a "different" USB port works fine with headset 
> plugged in.
> My guess is that the USB port "closest" to the headset port may be shared? 
> If so,
> this is not documented in the User Manual. But, I could be missing 
> something.
>

Although a bit flaky (since I get I/O error every other try), I was able to
get it to scan using a "different" USB port with headset plugged in.

Sorry for the confusion.

And, I love Ubuntu !    :-)

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#1091

"Mike S." <retsuhcs@xinap.moc> wrote in message 
news:jg9lqf$e9h$1@reader1.panix.com...
>
> In article <jg9km4$19k$1@dont-email.me>, Adam <adam@no_thanks.com> wrote:
>>Host OS:    Ubuntu 10.04 LTS
>>System:    ASUS N61JQ (laptop)
>>
>>Scan apps (like gscan2pdf, XSane Image Scanner, etc.) fail to
>>detect scanner device (HP ScanJet 6350Cxi) with headset plugged in.
>>As soon as I unplug the headset, scan apps work fine.
>>
>>Any ideas?
>
> What is the headet-to-PC interface?
> Analog audio? USB?
>

Good question.  I am using the Sennheiser HD 202 (3.5 mm straight plug,
according to box).

Correction ... connecting the scanner to a "different" USB port with headset
plugged in does "not" work either (contrary to my 1:30 PM post, which has 
been canceled).

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#1089

Adam wrote:
> Host OS:    Ubuntu 10.04 LTS
> System:    ASUS N61JQ (laptop)
> 
> Scan apps (like gscan2pdf, XSane Image Scanner, etc.) fail to
> detect scanner device (HP ScanJet 6350Cxi) with headset plugged in.
> As soon as I unplug the headset, scan apps work fine.
> 
> Any ideas?

Hi Adam. Linux is an amateurish OS built with amateurish drivers. And 
when something goes wrong, there is nobody to blame! That is what open 
source is all about. There is nothing professional about it. So I don't 
know what you are expecting with a bunch of amateurs?

-- 
Bill
Asus EEE PC 702G4 ~ 2GB RAM ~ 16GB-SDHC
Ubuntu 9.10 Netbook Remix Linux

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#1090

BillW50 wrote:
> Adam wrote:
>> Host OS:    Ubuntu 10.04 LTS
>> System:    ASUS N61JQ (laptop)
>>
>> Scan apps (like gscan2pdf, XSane Image Scanner, etc.) fail to
>> detect scanner device (HP ScanJet 6350Cxi) with headset plugged in.
>> As soon as I unplug the headset, scan apps work fine.
>>
>> Any ideas?
> 
> Hi Adam. Linux is an amateurish OS built with amateurish drivers. And 
> when something goes wrong, there is nobody to blame! That is what open 
> source is all about. There is nothing professional about it. So I don't 
> know what you are expecting with a bunch of amateurs?

I don't understand the problem? It's all open source which means you 
have the source code (or at least can get it). And there is obviously a 
bug. So take some responsibility for yourself man! Fix it and recompile. 
And if it is too hot in the kitchen, then what are you doing there?

-- 
Bill
Asus EEE PC 702G4 ~ 2GB RAM ~ 16GB-SDHC
Ubuntu 9.10 Netbook Remix Linux

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#1095

Op 31-01-12 23:07 schreef BillW50:
> Hi Adam. Linux is an amateurish OS built with amateurish drivers.
You should take your pills.

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#1092

On Tuesday 31 January 2012 22:33, BillW50 conveyed the following to 
alt.os.linux.ubuntu...

> Adam wrote:
>> Host OS:    Ubuntu 10.04 LTS
>> System:    ASUS N61JQ (laptop)
>> 
>> Scan apps (like gscan2pdf, XSane Image Scanner, etc.) fail to
>> detect scanner device (HP ScanJet 6350Cxi) with headset plugged in.
>> As soon as I unplug the headset, scan apps work fine.
>> 
>> Any ideas?
> 
> Hi Adam. Linux is an amateurish OS built with amateurish drivers.

For your information, GNU/Linux has already for long surpassed 
proprietary UNIX in professionalism, robustness and quality.

A great number of hardware vendors is working with the Linux kernel 
development team directly and are releasing their driver code under the 
GPLv2.  There is no other operating system on the planet that supports 
as many hardware architectures and as many hardware peripherals out of 
the box as GNU/Linux.

In addition to that, 96% of the world's most powerful supercomputers are 
running GNU/Linux, and it also runs on IBM mainframes, on the bare 
metal.  Do you seriously think that an amateurish OS with amateurish 
drivers would ever be selected for those purposes?

> And when something goes wrong, there is nobody to blame!

When something goes wrong in proprietary operating systems, there's 
nobody to blame either.  And if you won't believe that, then please read 
their EULAs more carefully next time.

> That is what open source is all about. There is nothing professional
> about it.

You obviously have a very personal and totally skewed definition of the 
word "professional".

> So I don't know what you are expecting with a bunch of amateurs?

You score about 3 on the troll-o-meter, and about 7 on the flame bait 
meter.  I guess that makes you an amateur.

-- 
= Aragorn =
(registered GNU/Linux user #223157)

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#1094

On Jan 31, 4:55 pm, Aragorn <stry...@telenet.be.invalid> wrote:
> On Tuesday 31 January 2012 22:33, BillW50 conveyed the following to
> alt.os.linux.ubuntu...
>
> > Adam wrote:
> >> Host OS:    Ubuntu 10.04 LTS
> >> System:    ASUS N61JQ (laptop)
>
> >> Scan apps (like gscan2pdf, XSane Image Scanner, etc.) fail to
> >> detect scanner device (HP ScanJet 6350Cxi) with headset plugged in.
> >> As soon as I unplug the headset, scan apps work fine.
>
> >> Any ideas?
>
> > Hi Adam. Linux is an amateurish OS built with amateurish drivers.
>
> For your information, GNU/Linux has already for long surpassed
> proprietary UNIX in professionalism, robustness and quality.
>
> A great number of hardware vendors is working with the Linux kernel
> development team directly and are releasing their driver code under the
> GPLv2.  There is no other operating system on the planet that supports
> as many hardware architectures and as many hardware peripherals out of
> the box as GNU/Linux.
>
> In addition to that, 96% of the world's most powerful supercomputers are
> running GNU/Linux, and it also runs on IBM mainframes, on the bare
> metal.  Do you seriously think that an amateurish OS with amateurish
> drivers would ever be selected for those purposes?
>
> > And when something goes wrong, there is nobody to blame!
>
> When something goes wrong in proprietary operating systems, there's
> nobody to blame either.  And if you won't believe that, then please read
> their EULAs more carefully next time.
>
> > That is what open source is all about. There is nothing professional
> > about it.
>
> You obviously have a very personal and totally skewed definition of the
> word "professional".
>
> > So I don't know what you are expecting with a bunch of amateurs?
>
> You score about 3 on the troll-o-meter, and about 7 on the flame bait
> meter.  I guess that makes you an amateur.
>
> --
> = Aragorn =
> (registered GNU/Linux user #223157)

Good response...and deserved! :-)

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#1101

In 
news:6bd52af0-8a27-4dd3-9b6e-ee5db52ec7e0@c13g2000yqk.googlegroups.com,
Bob_Villa wrote:
> On Jan 31, 4:55 pm, Aragorn <stry...@telenet.be.invalid> wrote:
>> On Tuesday 31 January 2012 22:33, BillW50 conveyed the following to
>> alt.os.linux.ubuntu...
>>
>>> Adam wrote:
>>>> Host OS: Ubuntu 10.04 LTS
>>>> System: ASUS N61JQ (laptop)
>>
>>>> Scan apps (like gscan2pdf, XSane Image Scanner, etc.) fail to
>>>> detect scanner device (HP ScanJet 6350Cxi) with headset plugged in.
>>>> As soon as I unplug the headset, scan apps work fine.
>>
>>>> Any ideas?
>>
>>> Hi Adam. Linux is an amateurish OS built with amateurish drivers.
>>
>> For your information, GNU/Linux has already for long surpassed
>> proprietary UNIX in professionalism, robustness and quality.

Yes they have been saying this for many years. And we are still waiting. 
And apparently my reply yesterday on my Linux machine never posted. 
Nothing new there. Linux always has a nasty habit of huge 
disappointments for me anyway.

>> A great number of hardware vendors is working with the Linux kernel
>> development team directly and are releasing their driver code under
>> the GPLv2. There is no other operating system on the planet that
>> supports as many hardware architectures and as many hardware
>> peripherals out of the box as GNU/Linux.

No way! I am sure it is very easy to snow people like Bob Villa, but the 
rest of us are not so gullible. If you are going to try to support your 
position by bull (people who uses dishonesty annoy me), you can at least 
do better than that. Even newbies to Linux knows that Linux drivers and 
applications are very weak compared to Windows or even the Mac.

>> In addition to that, 96% of the world's most powerful supercomputers
>> are running GNU/Linux, and it also runs on IBM mainframes, on the
>> bare metal. Do you seriously think that an amateurish OS with
>> amateurish drivers would ever be selected for those purposes?

Boy you sure leave a lot of important parts out, didn't you? So what 
choice do they have? As the keepers of the mainframe are aging and they 
are going to be retiring soon enough and take their knowledge with them. 
And who can find younger people who understands mainframe OS?

Plus mainframes have been on the decline for 15 years now. And companies 
like IBM have been looking for more opportunities and now selling 
mainframes to compete with the server market. And any lame OS can handle 
operating a server. So here comes Linux. Although it had taken IBM years 
to port the drivers over to Linux. IBM has been trying to get Linux 
usable on mainframes for 12 years now.

>>> And when something goes wrong, there is nobody to blame!
>>
>> When something goes wrong in proprietary operating systems, there's
>> nobody to blame either. And if you won't believe that, then please
>> read their EULAs more carefully next time.

Naw, piece of cake. If it doesn't work, take it back to the place you 
bought it and go buy their competitor that does work. Believe me, 
developers learn really quickly when they have high return rates.

>>> That is what open source is all about. There is nothing professional
>>> about it.
>>
>> You obviously have a very personal and totally skewed definition of
>> the word "professional".
>>
>>> So I don't know what you are expecting with a bunch of amateurs?
>>
>> You score about 3 on the troll-o-meter, and about 7 on the flame bait
>> meter. I guess that makes you an amateur.

You are so confused! "I never give them hell; I just tell them the truth 
and they think it's hell."

> Good response...and deserved! :-) -- Bob Villa

Looks like you earned a friend Aragorn. As the more bull you use, the 
more Bob will like you. You see Bob has this evil streak in him. As he 
also enjoys telling people to replace all of the wrong parts that isn't 
the problem just to be mean to strangers.

REFERENCES:
Mark Shuttleworth: Mainframes Are Going Away - Softpedia
http://news.softpedia.com/news/Mark-Shuttleworth-Mainframes-Are-Going-Away-229763.shtml

Mainframes, Myths and Manpower | The METISfiles
http://www.themetisfiles.com/2011/06/mainframes-myths-and-manpower/

CA Launches Chorus To Make Mainframes Cool | TechWeekEurope UK
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#1105

On Feb 1, 5:08 pm, "BillW50" <Bill...@aol.kom> wrote:
>

>
> --
> Bill
> Gateway M465e ('06 era) - OE-QuoteFix v1.19.2
> Centrino Core Duo T2400 1.83GHz - 2GB - Windows XP SP3

<yawn>

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#1109

In article <jgcgn7$cvv$1@dont-email.me>, BillW50 <BillW50@aol.kom> wrote:
>
>Linux always has a nasty habit of huge disappointments for me anyway.
>

	"This screwdriver always strips the screws no matter HOW hard
I tighten them!"

>And who can find younger people who understands mainframe OS?

	Lol, a z10 doesn't run System/360, dude.  But Linux is supported via 
virtualization as a vm or LPAR, or on a dedicated processor, a regular CP or
a special Linux CP called an IFL.  

http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/z/os/linux/solutions/ifl.html

>Plus mainframes have been on the decline for 15 years now. And companies 

	Uhhh, no.  Mainframes continue to capture more and more of the
big datacenter market share because they can replace thousands of smaller
servers.

>And any lame OS can handle operating a server. 

	But it takes real sophistication to run a EeePC netbook, right? :-)
After all, if Ghu, the great, had meant us to have fault tolerant high volume
real time transaction processing systems he'd have given us powerful
mainframe computers and flexible open source operating systems.

	Talk about bus errors!  You sure missed this one.

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#1108

In article <jg9mms$e9m$1@dont-email.me>, BillW50  <BillW50@aol.kom> wrote:
>
>Hi Adam. Linux is an amateurish OS built with amateurish drivers. And 

	It's a poor workman who blames his tools.  

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#1111

On Mon, 6 Feb 2012 11:29:05 +0000 (UTC), wrat@panix.com (the wharf rat)
wrote:

>In article <jg9mms$e9m$1@dont-email.me>, BillW50  <BillW50@aol.kom> wrote:
>>
>>Hi Adam. Linux is an amateurish OS built with amateurish drivers. And 
>
>	It's a poor workman who blames his tools. 
 
 That would be aside form the fact that it is the best OS and has the
best drivers.  Many, if not most of which were authored with
industry/vendor cooperation, with noted exceptions rearing their ugly
head now and then.

 These 'cursory glance' comments are pretty much always from someone who
didn't look long enough to make a valid assessment, yet mouthed one
anyway.  It really hurts their own image more than that which they wish
to make a snide comment about.

  Some of us are able to spot it fairly easily.  Sadly, it is slightly
harder in person, as the world is full of 'poseurs'.

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#1113

Here is a facsimile from the wharf rat who, on 6/2/2012 11:29, wrote:

> In article <jg9mms$e9m$1@dont-email.me>, BillW50  <BillW50@aol.kom> wrote:
>>
>>Hi Adam. Linux is an amateurish OS built with amateurish drivers. And 

Heh, yeah, right. That's why it runs 91% of the world's supercomputers.

Linux 91.4%
UNIX 6%
Mixed 2.2%
BSD .2%
Windows 2%

> 	It's a poor workman who blames his tools.  

Indeed.

<cross posting snipped>

-- 
Old age and guile will always beat youth & stupidity.

 From a column in the Daily Express, Friday 3rd Feb 2012:  
There was a new and remarkably clean white Ford Transit van parked on a road in 
London's East End.  
Inside was a squad of SAS, fully kitted out with,sub-machine guns, knives, grenades, 
cammo clothes, all blacked up on a dry run for the Olympics. 
They are sitting in the back when they heard a scratching at the back door, and the 
handle turns showing a thief who had just broken into the van. 
A hand reaches out, grabs him by the throat and a gruff voice says 'come inside, you'.
When the police arrived, after a radio call, they arrested the man.
Later they said the feller just sat shivering in the cells, scared to death.

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#1114

On 2/6/2012 6:46 AM, William Poaster wrote:
> Here is a facsimile from the wharf rat who, on 6/2/2012 11:29, wrote:
>
>> In article<jg9mms$e9m$1@dont-email.me>, BillW50<BillW50@aol.kom>  wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Adam. Linux is an amateurish OS built with amateurish drivers. And
>
> Heh, yeah, right. That's why it runs 91% of the world's supercomputers.
>
> Linux 91.4%
> UNIX 6%
> Mixed 2.2%
> BSD .2%
> Windows 2%
>
>> 	It's a poor workman who blames his tools.
>
> Indeed.
>
> <cross posting snipped>
>

Good to know for next time I am in the market for a supercomputer, which 
is like never! I'm more interested in PCs. And more PCs use Windows than 
any other OS by far.

People forget! I remember back in the 70's and 80's, my mentors used to 
say to not shop for an OS first and then pick your applications. No, 
never! First you pick the applications that you want to run and then 
pick the OS that will run them. And it is still so true today.

-- 
Bill
Alienware M9700 ('06 era) - Thunderbird v3
AMD Turion 64 ML44 2.4GHz - 2GB - Two GeForce Go 7900GS 512MB SLI

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#1132

On Feb 6, 11:09 am, BillW50 <Bill...@aol.kom> wrote:


You "talk" about helping people...and instead of helping, you
criticize what they're trying to fix.

Either help or shut the f**k-up!

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#1115

On 2/6/2012 5:29 AM, the wharf rat wrote:
> In article<jg9mms$e9m$1@dont-email.me>, BillW50<BillW50@aol.kom>  wrote:
>>
>> Hi Adam. Linux is an amateurish OS built with amateurish drivers. And
>
> 	It's a poor workman who blames his tools.
>

Is that what open source programmers use, poor tools? As that would 
explain a lot. Like why Linux won't let me use a larger desktop than my 
screen resolution, but Windows does. Linux won't let me compress the a 
larger desktop into a smaller screen size like Windows does.

Running Windows XP on a EeePC 701/2 with an external 1440x900 monitor, 
it plays full screen videos and doesn't miss a beat. Trying Linux with 
the same exact hardware and it plays the same videos one fricken frame 
per 5 seconds. How wonderful! No video, just a slide show.

And if you think that is bad, try using Linux as a game machine OS. 
Oops, most serious gamers wouldn't even consider using Linux. How about 
using Linux as a HTPC? Nope, it isn't very good multimedia department 
either.

Ever compare Linux drivers to Windows drivers? Linux drivers hardly has 
any settings at all. It is like somebody threw Linux drivers up in a 
hurry without much thought behind them (that is if you can find Linux 
drivers at all). And Windows drivers are just the opposite. Every 
feature that the hardware is capable of is there.

They say you get what you pay for. And with Linux this seems to be true. 
And even the paid for distros of Linux isn't much better. For example 
Xandros Linux (which isn't free) is barely better than Ubuntu. At least 
the drivers are slightly better anyway. Still nothing as nice as Windows 
drivers though.

-- 
Bill
Alienware M9700 ('06 era) - Thunderbird v3
AMD Turion 64 ML44 2.4GHz - 2GB - Two GeForce Go 7900GS 512MB SLI

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#1116

On 2012-02-06, BillW50 <BillW50@aol.kom> wrote:
> On 2/6/2012 5:29 AM, the wharf rat wrote:
>> In article<jg9mms$e9m$1@dont-email.me>, BillW50<BillW50@aol.kom>  wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Adam. Linux is an amateurish OS built with amateurish drivers. And
>>
>> 	It's a poor workman who blames his tools.
>>
>
> Is that what open source programmers use, poor tools? As that would 
> explain a lot. Like why Linux won't let me use a larger desktop than my 
> screen resolution, but Windows does. Linux won't let me compress the a 

    Sure it can. Although I am not sure how much interest there would be
for such a thing these days.

> larger desktop into a smaller screen size like Windows does.

    Windows doesn't either in my experience. Not only that, but when 
Windows can't cope with the situation it will scramble my icons too.

    That's something that X does not do.

>
> Running Windows XP on a EeePC 701/2 with an external 1440x900 monitor, 
> it plays full screen videos and doesn't miss a beat. Trying Linux with 
> the same exact hardware and it plays the same videos one fricken frame 
> per 5 seconds. How wonderful! No video, just a slide show.
>
> And if you think that is bad, try using Linux as a game machine OS. 
> Oops, most serious gamers wouldn't even consider using Linux. How about 
> using Linux as a HTPC? Nope, it isn't very good multimedia department 
> either.

    No. Linux is what you use when you want to rescue someone that's 
trying to use MacOS or Windows as an HTPC. It might be wholesale or 
just piecewise. However, it's still Free Software to the rescue.

    Troll harder.

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