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Re: The C64 is crap!

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In article <87k2myvak4.fsf@usenet.ankman.de>, Andreas Kohlbach
<janrat.9.ankman@spamgourmet.net> wrote:
> Your Name wrote on 23. January 2016:
> > In article <87mvrwm4i0.fsf@usenet.ankman.de>, Andreas Kohlbach
> > <janrat.9.ankman@spamgourmet.net> wrote:
> >> 
> >> Learning about "new" (old in fact) home computers from the 70s and 80s
> >> many could in fact "auto boot". Too bad the Commodore 64 was not among
> >> them.
> >
> > Of course it probably depends on what "Atari" you're talking about too.
> 
> To be fair, the 8-bit family (400, 800) of Atari
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atari_8-bit_family>.
> 
> AFAIK even the Apple II (1977) could autoboot from floppy. That was 5
> years before the Commodore 64 was introduced. In that time frame of the
> late 70s to mid 80s, 5 years are generations.
> 
> Because my first computer was a Commodore 64 booting manually was just
> the way it was supposed to be. Never dealt with other home computers
> until much later. For example I saw the first Amiga in 1986. That was the
> first computer I knew being able to autoboot.
> 
> > The C64 did have the ability to "auto-run" from a cartridge plugged in.
> 
> But others could autoboot when just a floppy was inserted prior power-on.

Yes, but the floppy drive was expensive, so most originally only had
tape drives ... auto-booting from tape would have been exceedingly
silly.

Also, the Apple II loads at least some part of the system software from
the disk, whereas the C64 could be booted and used without anything
extra. I don't know about the Atari 400 / 800 - I never bothered with
them since they were crap, although nowhere near as useless as
Sinclair's garbage toys.

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The C64 is crap! "Harald Habenichts" <po@p.o> - 2016-01-12 22:28 +0100
  Re: The C64 is crap! Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2016-01-13 13:17 +1300
    Re: The C64 is crap! removemefirst.Robert.Wolfe@f18.n116.z1.fidonet.org (Robert Wolfe) - 2016-01-12 20:33 +1200
      Re: The C64 is crap! Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2016-01-13 18:17 +1300
        Re: The C64 is crap! Andreas Kohlbach <janrat.9.ankman@spamgourmet.net> - 2016-01-13 18:10 -0500
          Re: The C64 is crap! Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2016-01-14 13:39 +1300
            Re: The C64 is crap! Andreas Kohlbach <janrat.9.ankman@spamgourmet.net> - 2016-01-14 17:24 -0500
              Re: The C64 is crap! Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2016-01-15 13:11 +1300
                Re: The C64 is crap! aowen10@mail.bbk.ac.uk - 2016-01-15 08:58 -0800
                Re: The C64 is crap! Andreas Kohlbach <janrat.9.ankman@spamgourmet.net> - 2016-01-15 16:05 -0500
                Re: The C64 is crap! Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2016-01-16 12:35 +1300
  Re: The C64 is crap! AndyW <Andy@nojunqmail.com> - 2016-01-13 07:32 +0000
    Re: The C64 is crap! "Brian-Gaff" <briang1@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2016-01-14 08:36 +0000
  Re: The C64 is crap! Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2016-01-13 10:09 +0100
    Re: The C64 is crap! Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2016-01-14 13:42 +1300
    Re: The C64 is crap! "Brian-Gaff" <briang1@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2016-01-14 08:37 +0000
  Re: The C64 is crap! Harry Potter <rose.joseph12@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-13 03:44 -0800
    Re: The C64 is crap! Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2016-01-14 10:33 +1300
  Re: The C64 is crap! Clocky <notgonna@happen.com> - 2016-01-14 06:10 +0800
  Re: The C64 is crap! "Brian-Gaff" <briang1@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2016-01-14 08:35 +0000
    Re: The C64 is crap! Guesser <alistair@zxnet.co.uk> - 2016-01-14 15:24 +0000
  Re: The C64 is crap! Jan van den Broek <fortytwo@xs4all.nl> - 2016-01-21 22:31 +0100
    Re: The C64 is crap! Andreas Kohlbach <janrat.9.ankman@spamgourmet.net> - 2016-01-21 18:05 -0500
      Re: The C64 is crap! removemefirst.Drew.Klenotic@f1701.n2215.z1.fidonet.org (Drew Klenotic) - 2016-01-22 20:42 +1200
        Re: The C64 is crap! Andreas Kohlbach <janrat.9.ankman@spamgourmet.net> - 2016-01-23 15:21 -0500
          Re: The C64 is crap! Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2016-01-24 10:06 +1300
          Re: The C64 is crap! Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2016-01-24 10:08 +1300
            Re: The C64 is crap! Andreas Kohlbach <janrat.9.ankman@spamgourmet.net> - 2016-01-24 18:10 -0500
              Re: The C64 is crap! Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2016-01-25 14:09 +1300
                Re: The C64 is crap! Dombo <dombo@disposable.invalid> - 2016-01-30 02:33 +0100
                Re: The C64 is crap! Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2016-01-30 18:16 +1300
                Re: The C64 is crap! Andreas Kohlbach <janrat.9.ankman@spamgourmet.net> - 2016-01-30 14:54 -0500
                Re: The C64 is crap! Anssi Saari <as@sci.fi> - 2016-02-01 10:36 +0200
              Re: The C64 is crap! removemefirst.Drew.Klenotic@f1701.n2215.z1.fidonet.org (Drew Klenotic) - 2016-01-26 19:45 +1200
          Re: The C64 is crap! removemefirst.Drew.Klenotic@f1701.n2215.z1.fidonet.org (Drew Klenotic) - 2016-01-26 19:38 +1200
            Re: The C64 is crap! Dombo <dombo@disposable.invalid> - 2016-01-29 23:12 +0100
              Re: The C64 is crap! Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2016-01-30 12:39 +1300
      Re: The C64 is junk! nospam.Ed.Vance@f1.n770.z1437.fidonet.org (Ed Vance) - 2016-02-18 10:23 +1200
        Re: The C64 is junk! Andreas Kohlbach <febr.9.ankman@spamgourmet.net> - 2016-02-19 15:57 -0500
  The C64 is crap! Terry Raymond <traymond20@gmail.com> - 2016-02-08 14:19 -0800

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