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Re: Will there be a CiderXPress?

From "Bill Buckels" <bbuckels@mts.net>
Newsgroups comp.sys.apple2.programmer
Subject Re: Will there be a CiderXPress?
Date 2013-08-19 07:48 -0500
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"Mark P M Lim" <marklim@macgui.com> wrote:
> I decided the least that could be done is ensure the destination folder 
> remains expanded after a drop is accepted. I think I have met with some 
> success here.

That sounds very elegant. Also consider tagging groups of files for file 
type and aux type batch changes (like Apple II OASIS did). Stay with the 
ProDOS file type paradigm when pasting from a ProDOS disk to a DOS 3.3 disk 
but display the DOS 3.3 filetype in the DOS 3.3 drop-down menu as well as 
the ProDOS (CiderPress) filetype cross-reference. If you use file attribute 
preservation tags for import and export, stay with Andy's naming. Offer an 
Action Dialog option to extract disk sectors and blocks, and to keep the 
head and tail of a DOS 3.3 file when extracting to a hard disk.

CiderPress has good support for CF cards, and good support for CP/M 80 disks 
as well. An external configuration file for disk and media formats not 
currently supported, including file types and other attributes and behaviour 
would greatly extend the usefulness of any next generation version.

But I long ago realized that I couldn't do what he has done, let alone 
expand on it. Not in my lifetime so I admire your energy and ability.

> The main credit belongs to Andy; CiderPress's C++ classes takes care of 
> many things behind
the scene.

The Ciderpress source code has been inavluable as a learning tool to me. (So 
has the source code for AppleWin.)

Andy's comments in CiderPress are like attending an advanced school of Apple 
II history coupled with algorithm after algorithm with reasons attached. I 
sometimes imagine that if Andy could have cloned himself,  and written all 
that in longhand, the 30,000 or so pages of hard-cover books would take a 
whole shelf in a book-case and would cost more to print than the price of a 
Windows laptop computer today.

His classes are very elegant. Uncoupling them from the UI to port this 
cross-platform or even from VS-6 is yet another matter. Although I have even 
backported his SHR routines to 8 bit Aztec C65 (circa 1987) without any 
significant change and with-out problems.

I am grateful to Professor Andy too:) A very generous man!

Bill

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Will there be a CiderXPress? markpmlim@yahoo.com.sg - 2013-07-11 20:22 -0700
  Re: Will there be a CiderXPress? Hugh Hood <hughhood@earthlink.net> - 2013-07-13 13:09 -0500
    Re: Will there be a CiderXPress? Mark P M Lim <marklim@macgui.com> - 2013-07-14 09:42 +0000
      Re: Will there be a CiderXPress? Mark P M Lim <marklim@macgui.com> - 2013-08-02 02:44 +0000
        Re: Will there be a CiderXPress? Alex Lee <alelee@mac.com> - 2013-08-02 16:45 +1000
          Re: Will there be a CiderXPress? Mark P M Lim <marklim@macgui.com> - 2013-08-18 03:25 +0000
            Re: Will there be a CiderXPress? "Bill Buckels" <bbuckels@mts.net> - 2013-08-19 07:48 -0500
            Re: Will there be a CiderXPress? Alex Lee <alelee@mac.com> - 2014-02-08 15:38 +1100

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