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In message <521d53820fchrisjohnson+news@spamcop.net>
          Chris Johnson <chrisjohnson+news@spamcop.net> wrote:

> In article <b948201d52.jim@nails.abbeypress.net>,
>    Jim Nagel <jimnewsm10d@abbeypress.co.uk> wrote:
>> Unfortunately, when I get the Save box for the file I want to save
>> and type news:filename I get the message "To save, drag the icon
>> to a directory display."

> Ahhh - that suggests that the save code is not expanding the sys
> variable.

No. There is no need for the save code to expand anything.

What this suggests is that the save code follows the RISC OS user 
interface guidelines, which say: "If there is no full stop in the user 
supplied save path, then the application should refuse to save to it 
and tell the user: To save, drag the icon to a directory display". 
That rule is supposed to detect non-absolute paths because they would 
cause the file to be saved to a non-obvious location. What the author 
of that guideline did not realize is that you can enter an absolute 
path by starting it with a path: reference.

Some applications (e.g., Zap) check for colons as well and allow you 
to save to such a path, but most still follow that guideline to the 
letter (e.g., Edit, but also EasiWriter and ArtWorks).

To work around that you can use <News$Write>.filename, which does have 
a full stop and is therefore accepted. Of course, that is not quite as 
simple and elegant as the original method.

-- 
Martin
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Martin Wuerthner         MW Software      http://www.mw-software.com/
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shortcut for path Jim Nagel <jimnewsm10d@abbeypress.co.uk> - 2011-10-04 18:40 +0100
  Re: shortcut for path Martin Wuerthner <spamtrap@mw-software.com> - 2011-10-04 20:31 +0200
    Re: shortcut for path Jim Nagel <jimnewsm10d@abbeypress.co.uk> - 2011-10-05 00:28 +0100
      Re: shortcut for path Chris Johnson <chrisjohnson+news@spamcop.net> - 2011-10-05 09:48 +0100
        Re: shortcut for path Martin Wuerthner <spamtrap@mw-software.com> - 2011-10-05 12:12 +0200
          Re: shortcut for path Chris Johnson <chrisjohnson+news@spamcop.net> - 2011-10-05 11:43 +0100
          Re: shortcut for path Jim Nagel <jimnewsm10d@abbeypress.co.uk> - 2011-10-05 15:42 +0100
            Re: shortcut for path Alan Wrigley <spamhater@keepyourfilthyspamtoyourself.co.uk> - 2011-10-05 16:22 +0100
              Re: shortcut for path "Ste (news)" <steve@revi11.plus.com> - 2011-10-05 18:21 +0100
            Re: shortcut for path Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-10-06 08:19 +0200
  Re: shortcut for path Chris Johnson <chrisjohnson+news@spamcop.net> - 2011-10-04 20:05 +0100
  Re: shortcut for path Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-10-05 05:57 +0200
    Re: shortcut for path Jim Nagel <jimnewsm10d@abbeypress.co.uk> - 2011-10-05 15:33 +0100
      Re: shortcut for path Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-10-06 08:21 +0200
  Re: shortcut for path Jeremy Nicoll - news posts <jn.nntp.scrap007@wingsandbeaks.org.uk> - 2011-10-05 21:23 +0100
    Re: shortcut for path Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-10-06 08:23 +0200
      Re: shortcut for path Steve Fryatt <news@stevefryatt.org.uk> - 2011-10-06 20:36 +0100
      Re: shortcut for path Jeremy Nicoll - news posts <jn.nntp.scrap007@wingsandbeaks.org.uk> - 2011-10-07 00:51 +0100

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