Re: Research to Create Automated Buffer Overflow Protection

From	Richard Heathfield <invalid@see.sig.invalid>
Organization	Oration Gains
Subject	Re: Research to Create Automated Buffer Overflow Protection
Newsgroups	comp.programming
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Date	2014-08-26 20:33 +0100

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Dmitry A. Kazakov wrote:

> On Tue, 26 Aug 2014 18:59:49 +0100, Richard Heathfield wrote:
> 
>> Dmitry A. Kazakov wrote:
>> 
>>> On Tue, 26 Aug 2014 18:16:47 +0100, Richard Heathfield wrote:
>>> 
>>>> The only ways to get rid of C, in decreasing order of severity are:
>>>> 
>>>> (a) catastrophic global war, pestilence, or famine;
>>>> (b) legislation of an alarmingly authoritarian nature;
>>>> (c) the provision of an even more powerful language that is even more
>>>> prone to being abused.
>>> 
>>> (d) liability to the damages caused by software faults.
>> 
>> Like (a) above, that would take out ALL programming languages, not just
>> C.
> 
> I don't see anything catastrophic in that.

If I take you at your word, you don't see anything catastrophic about the 
collapse of the software world as we know it.

> Just making the software market
> working. Yes it could take out languages promoting software quality as an
> expense.

If people were made liable for damages inflicted by their broken software, 
the hike in their insurance premiums would make it uneconomic to produce any 
software at all. This would destroy not only C, but also Ada, C#, SmallTalk, 
Lithp, Ruby, Haskell... the lot. Nobody would write programs any more. This 
would of course have the advantage that no new buffer overrun problems would 
be created.

-- 
Richard Heathfield
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Research to Create Automated Buffer Overflow Protection Heidi Brayer <hap1026@gmail.com> - 2014-08-26 09:11 -0700
  Re: Research to Create Automated Buffer Overflow Protection "Dmitry A. Kazakov" <mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de> - 2014-08-26 18:54 +0200
    Re: Research to Create Automated Buffer Overflow Protection Richard Heathfield <invalid@see.sig.invalid> - 2014-08-26 18:16 +0100
      Re: Research to Create Automated Buffer Overflow Protection "Dmitry A. Kazakov" <mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de> - 2014-08-26 19:35 +0200
        Re: Research to Create Automated Buffer Overflow Protection Richard Heathfield <invalid@see.sig.invalid> - 2014-08-26 18:59 +0100
          Re: Research to Create Automated Buffer Overflow Protection "Dmitry A. Kazakov" <mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de> - 2014-08-26 21:26 +0200
            Re: Research to Create Automated Buffer Overflow Protection Richard Heathfield <invalid@see.sig.invalid> - 2014-08-26 20:33 +0100
              Re: Research to Create Automated Buffer Overflow Protection "Dmitry A. Kazakov" <mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de> - 2014-08-26 21:50 +0200
                Re: Research to Create Automated Buffer Overflow Protection Richard Heathfield <invalid@see.sig.invalid> - 2014-08-26 21:41 +0100
                Re: Research to Create Automated Buffer Overflow Protection "Dmitry A. Kazakov" <mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de> - 2014-08-27 10:21 +0200
                Re: Research to Create Automated Buffer Overflow Protection "Chris Uppal" <chris.uppal@metagnostic.REMOVE-THIS.org> - 2014-08-27 10:27 +0100
                Re: Research to Create Automated Buffer Overflow Protection "Dmitry A. Kazakov" <mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de> - 2014-08-27 11:51 +0200
        Re: Research to Create Automated Buffer Overflow Protection Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.invalid> - 2014-08-26 20:39 +0200
          Re: Research to Create Automated Buffer Overflow Protection "Chris Uppal" <chris.uppal@metagnostic.REMOVE-THIS.org> - 2014-08-26 20:13 +0100
          Re: Research to Create Automated Buffer Overflow Protection "Dmitry A. Kazakov" <mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de> - 2014-08-26 21:38 +0200
            Re: Research to Create Automated Buffer Overflow Protection Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2014-08-26 23:11 +0200
              Re: Research to Create Automated Buffer Overflow Protection "Dmitry A. Kazakov" <mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de> - 2014-08-27 09:50 +0200
                Re: Research to Create Automated Buffer Overflow Protection "Chris Uppal" <chris.uppal@metagnostic.REMOVE-THIS.org> - 2014-08-27 10:16 +0100
                Re: Research to Create Automated Buffer Overflow Protection "Dmitry A. Kazakov" <mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de> - 2014-08-27 12:15 +0200
                Re: Research to Create Automated Buffer Overflow Protection Richard Heathfield <invalid@see.sig.invalid> - 2014-08-27 14:40 +0100
            Re: Research to Create Automated Buffer Overflow Protection "Chris Uppal" <chris.uppal@metagnostic.REMOVE-THIS.org> - 2014-08-27 10:13 +0100
              Re: Research to Create Automated Buffer Overflow Protection "Dmitry A. Kazakov" <mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de> - 2014-08-27 14:06 +0200
            Re: Research to Create Automated Buffer Overflow Protection "Chris Uppal" <chris.uppal@metagnostic.REMOVE-THIS.org> - 2014-08-27 10:32 +0100
              Re: Research to Create Automated Buffer Overflow Protection "Dmitry A. Kazakov" <mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de> - 2014-08-27 12:14 +0200
        Re: Research to Create Automated Buffer Overflow Protection "Chris M. Thomasson" <no@spam.invalid> - 2014-08-26 14:06 -0700
      Re: Research to Create Automated Buffer Overflow Protection Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.invalid> - 2014-08-26 20:16 +0200
        Re: Research to Create Automated Buffer Overflow Protection Öö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee> - 2014-08-30 09:20 -0700
  Re: Research to Create Automated Buffer Overflow Protection Jongware <jongware@no-spam.plz> - 2014-09-15 10:47 +0200
    Re: Research to Create Automated Buffer Overflow Protection Richard Heathfield <invalid@see.sig.invalid> - 2014-09-15 10:46 +0100

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