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Am 04.08.2015 um 15:21 schrieb Richard Heathfield:
> On 04/08/15 14:07, Mok-Kong Shen wrote:
>> Am 04.08.2015 um 15:01 schrieb Richard Heathfield:
>>> On 04/08/15 13:44, Mok-Kong Shen wrote:
>>>> Am 03.08.2015 um 19:31 schrieb Kaz Kylheku:
>>>>> On 2015-08-02, Mok-Kong Shen <mok-kong.shen@t-online.de> wrote:
>>>>>> If HAC and Maurer don't mention that a CSPRNG is required to
>>>>>> implement Maurer's algorithm, I can't imagine that they (both)
>>>>>> had by pure chance forgotten to do that, if a CSPRNG were indeed
>>>>>> necessary to do that implementation.
>>>>>
>>>>> This doesn't need to be spelled out, because the assumption that
>>>>> anyone
>>>>> qualified to be reading the material isn't dumb as a fucking brick.
>>>>>
>>>> Your sentence is a bit ambiguous.
>>>
>>> I don't see how.
>>>
>>>> Do you mean CSPRNG is required or
>>>> not in the present context? If yes, please kindly explain a bit.
>>>
>>> Kaz means that a CSPRNG is required for Maurer's algorithm. My
>>> explanation of Kaz's meaning is by way of a parallel. Consider an
>>> algorithm for filling a bucket with water:
>>>
>>> Step 1: place the bucket under the tap
>>> Step 2: turn the tap on
>>> Step 3: monitor the flow of water
>>> Step 4: when the bucket is full, turn off the tap
>>>
>>> At no stage does the algorithm say "ensure that the ambient temperature
>>> and pressure are such that the water is in liquid form" or "ensure that
>>> gravity is working" or "ensure that your bucket has no holes except the
>>> one for allowing water in at the top", but we may safely deduce these
>>> facts from the context, and anyone who needs these conditions to be
>>> spelled out may experience self-esteem challenges when their IQ is
>>> compared to that of a brick.
>>>
>>> Kaz - fair summary?
>>>
>>
>> ok. Then please comment on what I wrote in parentheses.
>
> "(both)"
>
> What's to say? It's a word. It means "this one, and that one too". I
> don't get the question.

I meant naturally the parentheses in my answer to Kylheku, namely:

(Note anyway that in HAC there is given a way to implement a CSPRNG
with RSA. So, if a CSPRNG were required to implement RSA, that
would lead to a viscious circle.)

M. K. Shen

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An advantage of RSA encryption Mok-Kong Shen <mok-kong.shen@t-online.de> - 2015-08-01 16:52 +0200
  Re: An advantage of RSA encryption Johannes Bauer <dfnsonfsduifb@gmx.de> - 2015-08-01 20:17 +0200
    Re: An advantage of RSA encryption Mok-Kong Shen <mok-kong.shen@t-online.de> - 2015-08-01 23:04 +0200
      Re: An advantage of RSA encryption Mok-Kong Shen <mok-kong.shen@t-online.de> - 2015-08-02 04:32 +0200
      Re: An advantage of RSA encryption Johannes Bauer <dfnsonfsduifb@gmx.de> - 2015-08-02 19:36 +0200
        Re: An advantage of RSA encryption Mok-Kong Shen <mok-kong.shen@t-online.de> - 2015-08-02 21:04 +0200
          Re: An advantage of RSA encryption Kaz Kylheku <kaz@kylheku.com> - 2015-08-03 17:31 +0000
            Re: An advantage of RSA encryption Mok-Kong Shen <mok-kong.shen@t-online.de> - 2015-08-04 14:44 +0200
              Re: An advantage of RSA encryption Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2015-08-04 14:01 +0100
                Re: An advantage of RSA encryption Mok-Kong Shen <mok-kong.shen@t-online.de> - 2015-08-04 15:07 +0200
                Re: An advantage of RSA encryption Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2015-08-04 14:21 +0100
                Re: An advantage of RSA encryption Mok-Kong Shen <mok-kong.shen@t-online.de> - 2015-08-04 15:24 +0200
                Re: An advantage of RSA encryption Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2015-08-04 14:43 +0100
                Re: An advantage of RSA encryption Mok-Kong Shen <mok-kong.shen@t-online.de> - 2015-08-04 15:49 +0200
                Re: An advantage of RSA encryption Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2015-08-04 15:56 +0100
                Re: An advantage of RSA encryption Mok-Kong Shen <mok-kong.shen@t-online.de> - 2015-08-04 22:05 +0200
                Re: An advantage of RSA encryption Kaz Kylheku <kaz@kylheku.com> - 2015-08-04 15:24 +0000
                Re: An advantage of RSA encryption Mok-Kong Shen <mok-kong.shen@t-online.de> - 2015-08-04 22:10 +0200
                Re: An advantage of RSA encryption Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2015-08-04 21:42 +0100
                Re: An advantage of RSA encryption Mok-Kong Shen <mok-kong.shen@t-online.de> - 2015-08-04 23:05 +0200
                Re: An advantage of RSA encryption Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2015-08-04 22:18 +0100
                Re: An advantage of RSA encryption Mok-Kong Shen <mok-kong.shen@t-online.de> - 2015-08-04 23:58 +0200
                Re: An advantage of RSA encryption Chad <cdalten@gmail.com> - 2015-08-04 16:45 -0700
                Re: An advantage of RSA encryption Chad <cdalten@gmail.com> - 2015-08-04 16:55 -0700
                Re: An advantage of RSA encryption Chad <cdalten@gmail.com> - 2015-08-04 22:12 -0700
                Re: An advantage of RSA encryption Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2015-08-05 07:58 +0100
                Re: An advantage of RSA encryption Chad <cdalten@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 08:06 -0700
  Re: An advantage of RSA encryption "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2015-08-03 06:50 -0400
    Re: An advantage of RSA encryption Mok-Kong Shen <mok-kong.shen@t-online.de> - 2015-08-03 18:28 +0200
      Re: An advantage of RSA encryption "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 22:07 -0400
        Re: An advantage of RSA encryption Mok-Kong Shen <mok-kong.shen@t-online.de> - 2015-08-06 11:01 +0200
  Re: An advantage of RSA encryption Mok-Kong Shen <mok-kong.shen@t-online.de> - 2015-08-04 15:26 +0200

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