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Re: Linus Torvalds prepares to move the Linux kernel to modern C

From David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no>
Newsgroups comp.programming.threads, comp.lang.c
Subject Re: Linus Torvalds prepares to move the Linux kernel to modern C
Date 2022-03-01 19:42 +0100
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On 01/03/2022 18:13, Bonita Montero wrote:
> Am 01.03.2022 um 17:25 schrieb David Brown:
>> On 01/03/2022 14:31, Bonita Montero wrote:
>>> Am 01.03.2022 um 03:23 schrieb Lynn McGuire:
>>>> On 2/28/2022 7:29 PM, rthiebaud wrote:
>>>>> On 2/28/22 20:26, Lynn McGuire wrote:
>>>>>> On 2/28/2022 11:44 AM, Bonita Montero wrote:
>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sorry but you are wrong.  There is more C code running out there
>>>>>> than anything else.  Just about every real time system is running
>>>>>> C.  Linux is totally written in C code.  All engine management
>>>>>> systems are running C.  Etc, etc, etc.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Lynn
>>>>>
>>>>> How does the number of lines of C running compare to the number of
>>>>> lines of Cobol running?
>>>>
>>>> Not even close, C big time the winner.
>>>>
>>>> Every single vehicle running in the USA has several cpus running 20
>>>> million to 30 million lines of C code.
>>>
>>> For embedded-puorposes C++ is currently more frequently used.
>>> Look at the job offers. C is an outdated language.
>>
>> You sometimes seem to live in a world of make-believe...
>>
>> Use of C++ is definitely increasing in the embedded world, but
>> especially on smaller systems C is dominant by a long way.
> 
> That are only very small systems where C++ isn't appropriate.

I did not say that C++ could not be used, or even that C++ would not be
appropriate.  I said that C++ was /not/ used - C is is used.  There are
a great many reasons - some good, some bad - why C is used on small
embedded systems.

> Here in Germany there are much more Job offerings for embedded
> -developers asking for C++ skills than for C skills only.

That does not contradict me in any way.  Companies are looking for new
people with C++ skills, because - as I said - the use of C++ in embedded
systems is /increasing/.  They don't need new C programmers, because
they already have C programmers.

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Linus Torvalds prepares to move the Linux kernel to modern C Amine Moulay Ramdane <aminer68@gmail.com> - 2022-02-28 08:43 -0800
  Re: Linus Torvalds prepares to move the Linux kernel to modern C Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2022-02-28 18:44 +0100
    Re: Linus Torvalds prepares to move the Linux kernel to modern C Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> - 2022-02-28 19:26 -0600
      Re: Linus Torvalds prepares to move the Linux kernel to modern C rthiebaud <thiebauddick2@aol.com> - 2022-02-28 20:29 -0500
        Re: Linus Torvalds prepares to move the Linux kernel to modern C Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> - 2022-02-28 20:23 -0600
          Re: Linus Torvalds prepares to move the Linux kernel to modern C Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2022-03-01 11:34 +0000
          Re: Linus Torvalds prepares to move the Linux kernel to modern C Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2022-03-01 14:31 +0100
            Re: Linus Torvalds prepares to move the Linux kernel to modern C David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2022-03-01 17:25 +0100
              Re: Linus Torvalds prepares to move the Linux kernel to modern C Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2022-03-01 18:13 +0100
                Re: Linus Torvalds prepares to move the Linux kernel to modern C David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2022-03-01 19:42 +0100
                Re: Linus Torvalds prepares to move the Linux kernel to modern C Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2022-03-01 19:56 +0100
                Re: Linus Torvalds prepares to move the Linux kernel to modern C Vir Campestris <vir.campestris@invalid.invalid> - 2022-03-03 21:41 +0000
          Re: Linus Torvalds prepares to move the Linux kernel to modern C scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2022-03-01 15:14 +0000
      Re: Linus Torvalds prepares to move the Linux kernel to modern C Kaz Kylheku <480-992-1380@kylheku.com> - 2022-03-01 01:37 +0000
      Re: Linus Torvalds prepares to move the Linux kernel to modern C Manu Raju <MR@invalid.invalid> - 2022-03-01 05:11 +0000
      Re: Linus Torvalds prepares to move the Linux kernel to modern C Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2022-03-01 08:31 +0100
    Re: Linus Torvalds prepares to move the Linux kernel to modern C Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> - 2022-03-01 22:45 -0600
      Re: Linus Torvalds prepares to move the Linux kernel to modern C Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2022-03-02 05:46 +0100
        Re: Linus Torvalds prepares to move the Linux kernel to modern C Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2022-03-02 13:47 +0000
          Re: Linus Torvalds prepares to move the Linux kernel to modern C rthiebaud <thiebauddick2@aol.com> - 2022-03-02 13:06 -0500
            Re: Linus Torvalds prepares to move the Linux kernel to modern C Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2022-03-02 19:19 +0000
              Re: Linus Torvalds prepares to move the Linux kernel to modern C Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> - 2022-03-02 19:32 -0600
                Re: Linus Torvalds prepares to move the Linux kernel to modern C "Gary R. Schmidt" <grschmidt@acm.org> - 2022-03-03 14:56 +1100
                Re: Linus Torvalds prepares to move the Linux kernel to modern C Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2022-03-03 14:02 +0100
              Re: Linus Torvalds prepares to move the Linux kernel to modern C Manfred <noname@add.invalid> - 2022-03-03 15:09 +0100
                Re: Linus Torvalds prepares to move the Linux kernel to modern C Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2022-03-03 15:14 +0100
          Re: Linus Torvalds prepares to move the Linux kernel to modern C Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2022-03-02 19:17 +0100
        Re: Linus Torvalds prepares to move the Linux kernel to modern C scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2022-03-02 14:42 +0000
          Re: Linus Torvalds prepares to move the Linux kernel to modern C Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2022-03-02 19:18 +0100
            Re: Linus Torvalds prepares to move the Linux kernel to modern C scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2022-03-02 18:33 +0000
              Re: Linus Torvalds prepares to move the Linux kernel to modern C Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2022-03-02 19:39 +0100
                Re: Linus Torvalds prepares to move the Linux kernel to modern C "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2022-03-02 11:05 -0800
    Re: Linus Torvalds prepares to move the Linux kernel to modern C "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2022-03-03 12:25 -0800
      Re: Linus Torvalds prepares to move the Linux kernel to modern C Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2022-03-03 21:37 +0100
        Re: Linus Torvalds prepares to move the Linux kernel to modern C "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2022-03-03 12:59 -0800
          Re: Linus Torvalds prepares to move the Linux kernel to modern C Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2022-03-04 11:35 +0100

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