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Re: The threading specs in the standard: a new catastrophe

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Alexander Terekhov <terekhov@web.de> writes:
> James Kuyper wrote:
> > 
> > On 07/08/2011 01:47 PM, sfuerst wrote:
> > ...
> > > This is incorrect.  There are multiple libraries implementing the
> > > posix threading library for the Microsoft windows platform.  None of
> > > them have difficulty supporting the fact that posix mutexes require
> > > the possibility of static initialization.  A simple google search for
> > > "pthread windows" will give examples of how to do it.
> > 
> > On 2011-07-07, in c.l.c, c.p.t, and c.u.p, in a message with the subject
> > "POSIX threads hard to implement in Windows", William Ahern wrote:
> > ...
> > > But anyone who has used POSIX threads and Windows' native API quickly learns
> > > that they're quite different approaches. The biggest difference that I'm
> > > aware of is that Windows' mutexes cannot be statically initialized.
> > 
> > Unless I'm misunderstanding something, which is quite possible, you and
> > he appear to be in disagreement on this point. If so, could the two of
> > you discuss this issue and resolve that disagreement?
> 
> sfuerst is right, a la pthread statically initialized mutexes are no
> problem under Windows native API, e.g.:
> 
> #define SWAP_BASED_MUTEX_FOR_WINDOWS_INITIALIZER { 0, 0 } 
> 
> class swap_based_mutex_for_windows { 

When discussing language features, what would be more useful is 
an example in the language in question, namely C.

Phil
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"True. I just wish I'd brought a paddle." -- Matthew Vernon

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Re: The threading specs in the standard: a new catastrophe jameskuyper <jameskuyper@gmail.com> - 2011-07-07 15:25 -0700
  Re: The threading specs in the standard: a new catastrophe sfuerst <svfuerst@gmail.com> - 2011-07-07 16:12 -0700
    Re: The threading specs in the standard: a new catastrophe James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2011-07-07 22:41 -0400
    Re: The threading specs in the standard: a new catastrophe "Chris M. Thomasson" <cristom@charter.net> - 2011-07-08 12:47 -0700
      Re: The threading specs in the standard: a new catastrophe sfuerst <svfuerst@gmail.com> - 2011-07-08 13:11 -0700
        Re: The threading specs in the standard: a new catastrophe "Chris M. Thomasson" <cristom@charter.net> - 2011-07-08 16:56 -0700
        Re: The threading specs in the standard: a new catastrophe Marcin Grzegorczyk <mgrzegor@poczta.onet.pl> - 2011-07-09 23:55 +0200
          Re: The threading specs in the standard: a new catastrophe sfuerst <svfuerst@gmail.com> - 2011-07-09 18:40 -0700
  Re: The threading specs in the standard: a new catastrophe jacob navia <jacob@spamsink.net> - 2011-07-08 01:16 +0200
    some sane words, for sure "Greg A. Woods" <woods@robohack.org> - 2011-07-07 18:33 -0700
    Re: The threading specs in the standard: a new catastrophe jameskuyper <jameskuyper@gmail.com> - 2011-07-08 08:34 -0700
      Re: The threading specs in the standard: a new catastrophe sfuerst <svfuerst@gmail.com> - 2011-07-08 10:47 -0700
        Re: The threading specs in the standard: a new catastrophe James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2011-07-09 06:57 -0400
          Re: The threading specs in the standard: a new catastrophe Alexander Terekhov <terekhov@web.de> - 2011-07-09 13:59 +0200
            Re: The threading specs in the standard: a new catastrophe jacob navia <jacob@spamsink.net> - 2011-07-09 14:45 +0200
            Re: The threading specs in the standard: a new catastrophe "Chris M. Thomasson" <cristom@charter.net> - 2011-07-10 15:47 -0700
              Re: The threading specs in the standard: a new catastrophe Alexander Terekhov <terekhov@web.de> - 2011-07-11 13:38 +0200
            Re: The threading specs in the standard: a new catastrophe Phil Carmody <thefatphil_demunged@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-07-11 16:12 +0300

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