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| Started by | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| First post | 2025-07-16 13:44 +0200 |
| Last post | 2025-10-22 12:52 +0100 |
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Trouble with laptop display "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-16 13:44 +0200
Re: Trouble with laptop display Marco Moock <mm@dorfdsl.de> - 2025-07-16 14:00 +0200
Re: Trouble with laptop display Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2025-07-16 13:22 +0100
Re: Trouble with laptop display "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-16 20:43 +0200
Re: Trouble with laptop display Marco Moock <mm@dorfdsl.de> - 2025-07-17 08:06 +0200
Re: Trouble with laptop display "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-17 12:16 +0200
Re: Trouble with laptop display Arkadiusz 'Black Fox' Artyszuk <blackfox_pl@protonmail.com> - 2025-07-16 14:20 +0200
Re: Trouble with laptop display Robert Heller <heller@deepsoft.com> - 2025-07-16 12:39 +0000
Re: Trouble with laptop display Herbert Kleebauer <klee@unibwm.de> - 2025-07-16 14:43 +0200
Re: Trouble with laptop display Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-07-16 10:29 -0400
Re: Trouble with laptop display "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-16 20:42 +0200
Re: Trouble with laptop display The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-16 16:49 +0100
Re: Trouble with laptop display VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-07-16 11:52 -0500
Re: Trouble with laptop display "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-16 20:41 +0200
Re: Trouble with laptop display Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2025-07-16 21:11 +0100
Re: Trouble with laptop display Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-07-16 17:21 -0400
Re: Trouble with laptop display "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-07-16 20:12 +0100
Re: Trouble with laptop display Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-07-16 17:15 -0400
Re: Trouble with laptop display not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2025-07-17 09:10 +1000
Re: Trouble with laptop display Jack <Jack@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-16 19:09 +0000
Re: Trouble with laptop display "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-16 22:30 +0200
Re: Trouble with laptop display Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-07-16 16:58 -0700
Re: Trouble with laptop display Robert Heller <heller@deepsoft.com> - 2025-07-17 01:58 +0000
Re: Trouble with laptop display Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-07-17 03:29 +0000
Re: Trouble with laptop display "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-17 12:21 +0200
Re: Trouble with laptop display VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-07-16 18:12 -0500
Re: Trouble with laptop display Paul in Houston TX <Paul@Houston.Texas> - 2025-07-16 20:42 -0500
Re: Trouble with laptop display "J.O. Aho" <user@example.net> - 2025-07-17 08:34 +0200
Re: Trouble with laptop display c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-07-17 03:37 -0400
Re: Trouble with laptop display "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-07-17 10:16 +0100
Re: Trouble with laptop display "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-17 13:00 +0200
Re: Trouble with laptop display The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-17 13:50 +0100
Re: Trouble with laptop display "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-07-17 17:04 +0100
Re: Trouble with laptop display VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-07-17 13:11 -0500
Re: Trouble with laptop display "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-17 20:25 +0200
Re: Trouble with laptop display The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-17 19:58 +0100
Re: Trouble with laptop display "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-18 08:51 +0200
Re: Trouble with laptop display Simon <SimonJ@eu.invalid> - 2025-07-18 06:04 +0000
Re: Trouble with laptop display The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-18 11:12 +0100
Re: Trouble with laptop display "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-18 12:48 +0200
Re: Trouble with laptop display The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-18 13:31 +0100
Re: Trouble with laptop display The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-17 19:57 +0100
Re: Trouble with laptop display The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-17 19:50 +0100
Re: Trouble with laptop display VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-07-17 13:04 -0500
Re: Trouble with laptop display "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-17 20:29 +0200
Re: Trouble with laptop display The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-17 19:56 +0100
Re: Trouble with laptop display "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-18 09:01 +0200
Re: Trouble with laptop display The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-18 11:14 +0100
Re: Trouble with laptop display "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-18 12:26 +0200
Re: Trouble with laptop display The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-18 13:29 +0100
Re: Trouble with laptop display "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-18 21:18 +0200
Re: Trouble with laptop display VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-07-17 16:22 -0500
Re: Trouble with laptop display "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-18 09:13 +0200
Re: Trouble with laptop display "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-07-18 10:53 +0100
Re: Trouble with laptop display VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-07-18 18:47 -0500
Re: Trouble with laptop display "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-19 02:12 +0200
Re: Trouble with laptop display Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> - 2025-07-18 19:53 -0500
Re: Trouble with laptop display VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-07-18 20:45 -0500
Re: Trouble with laptop display Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> - 2025-07-18 21:22 -0500
mini-PC (was: Trouble with laptop display) Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-07-18 19:58 +0000
Re: mini-PC "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-18 22:28 +0200
Re: mini-PC (was: Trouble with laptop display) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-07-18 23:38 -0400
Re: Trouble with laptop display Robert <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-17 21:56 +0000
Re: Trouble with laptop display "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-18 09:49 +0200
Re: Trouble with laptop display "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-18 11:08 +0200
Re: Trouble with laptop display The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-18 11:11 +0100
Re: Trouble with laptop display "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-18 12:22 +0200
Re: Trouble with laptop display Jack <Jack@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-18 20:24 +0000
Re: Trouble with laptop display The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-18 22:05 +0100
Re: Trouble with laptop display Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-07-18 18:31 -0400
Re: Trouble with laptop display The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-19 00:50 +0100
Re: Trouble with laptop display "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-07-19 01:35 +0100
Re: Trouble with laptop display Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-07-18 19:42 -0700
Re: Trouble with laptop display "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-19 15:11 +0200
Re: Trouble with laptop display Simon <SimonJ@eu.invalid> - 2025-07-19 13:36 +0000
Re: Trouble with laptop display not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2025-07-20 09:55 +1000
Re: Trouble with laptop display rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-07-20 02:02 +0000
Re: Trouble with laptop display Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-07-20 21:10 +1000
Re: Trouble with laptop display Simon <SimonJ@eu.invalid> - 2025-07-20 05:00 +0000
Re: Trouble with laptop display Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-07-19 21:43 -0700
Re: Trouble with laptop display rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-07-20 05:29 +0000
Re: Trouble with laptop display Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-07-20 07:34 -0400
Re: Trouble with laptop display "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-20 21:04 +0200
Re: Trouble with laptop display Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-07-20 14:40 -0700
Re: Trouble with laptop display Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-07-20 20:43 -0400
Re: Trouble with laptop display rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-07-21 04:42 +0000
Re: Trouble with laptop display rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-07-20 19:50 +0000
Re: Trouble with laptop display Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-07-21 19:41 +1000
Re: Trouble with laptop display "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-21 12:16 +0200
Re: Trouble with laptop display Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-07-21 22:26 +1000
Re: Trouble with laptop display Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-07-21 17:35 +0000
Re: Trouble with laptop display "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-21 19:55 +0200
Re: Trouble with laptop display Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-07-21 17:37 -0400
Re: Trouble with laptop display "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-22 00:36 +0200
Re: Trouble with laptop display Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-07-22 19:57 +1000
Re: Trouble with laptop display "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-22 12:08 +0200
Re: Trouble with laptop display Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-07-22 21:38 +1000
Re: Trouble with laptop display The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-22 12:46 +0100
Re: Trouble with laptop display The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-20 12:54 +0100
Re: Trouble with laptop display "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-20 20:55 +0200
Re: Trouble with laptop display The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-20 20:22 +0100
Re: Trouble with laptop display rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-07-20 19:54 +0000
Re: Trouble with laptop display Simon <SimonJ@eu.invalid> - 2025-07-21 09:02 +0000
Re: Trouble with laptop display Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-07-19 21:44 -0700
Re: Trouble with laptop display Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2025-07-20 13:41 +0100
Re: Trouble with laptop display "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-07-20 17:52 +0100
Re: Trouble with laptop display "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-20 21:05 +0200
Re: Trouble with laptop display rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-07-20 19:56 +0000
Re: Trouble with laptop display Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2025-07-21 12:55 +0100
Re: Trouble with laptop display Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-07-20 15:00 -0700
Re: Trouble with laptop display Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2025-07-22 02:43 +0000
Re: Trouble with laptop display "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-18 23:25 +0200
Re: Trouble with laptop display "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-19 00:07 +0200
Re: Trouble with laptop display - drm ebook fallout "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-06 14:29 +0200
Re: Trouble with laptop display - drm ebook fallout Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-08-06 18:04 +0000
Re: Trouble with laptop display - drm ebook fallout "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-06 20:33 +0200
Re: Trouble with laptop display - drm ebook fallout "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-08-06 23:39 +0100
Re: Trouble with laptop display - drm ebook fallout Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-08-07 00:36 +0000
Re: Trouble with laptop display - drm ebook fallout rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-07 01:53 +0000
Re: Trouble with laptop display - drm ebook fallout "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-07 13:53 +0200
Re: Trouble with laptop display - drm ebook fallout Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-08-07 20:01 +1000
Re: Trouble with laptop display - drm ebook fallout "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-08-07 13:05 +0100
Re: Trouble with laptop display The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-18 11:08 +0100
Re: Trouble with laptop display "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-18 21:22 +0200
Re: Trouble with laptop display Jasen Betts <usenet@revmaps.no-ip.org> - 2025-10-22 11:04 +0000
Re: Trouble with laptop display "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-22 13:44 +0200
Re: Trouble with laptop display The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-22 12:52 +0100
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| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2025-07-18 22:28 +0200 |
| Subject | Re: mini-PC |
| Message-ID | <ubnqklxccj.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> |
| In reply to | #69726 |
On 2025-07-18 21:58, Frank Slootweg wrote:
> Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
> [...]
>> Oh, some videos overload another one of my laptops (too small, Lenovo,
>> fanless) and my mini-PC MSI Cubi N aka acting server. I did not try on
>> the Compaq. Usually videos done at 4K and/or h265. Some youtubes
>> overload firefox on those machines and can't watch at full screen.
>
> Can you give me a pointer to some specs of your 'mini-PC MSI Cubi N',
> especially the CPU (brand, series, model, speed, cores)?
Brand is MSI. I think I bought it Nov 2016. It has an M2 type of nvme flash disk, but came with the hardware to install a laptop type rotating rust hard disk. It has no fan.
The specs I just posted detailed info an hour ago:
Isengard:~ # inxi -C -GSaz --za --vs
inxi 3.3.31-00 (2023-11-02)
System:
Kernel: 6.4.0-150600.23.53-default arch: x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc
v: 7.5.0 clocksource: tsc available: acpi_pm
parameters: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-6.4.0-150600.23.53-default
root=UUID=<filter> showopts splash=verbose resume=/dev/disk/by-label/Swap
verbose mitigations=auto
Desktop: Xfce v: 4.20.1 tk: Gtk v: 3.24.43 info: xfce4-panel wm: xfwm
v: 4.20.0 dm: 1: GDM v: 45.0.1 2: SDDM note: stopped
Distro: openSUSE Leap 15.6
CPU:
Info: model: Intel Pentium N3710 socket: BGA1155 bits: 64 type: MCP
arch: Airmont level: v2 built: 2015-17 process: Intel 14nm family: 6
model-id: 0x4C (76) stepping: 4 microcode: 0x411
Topology: cpus: 1x cores: 4 smt: <unsupported> cache: L1: 224 KiB
desc: d-4x24 KiB; i-4x32 KiB L2: 2 MiB desc: 2x1024 KiB
Speed (MHz): avg: 480 min/max: 480/2560 base/boost: 1600/2400 scaling:
driver: intel_pstate governor: powersave volts: 1.2 V ext-clock: 80 MHz
cores: 1: 480 2: 480 3: 480 4: 480 bogomips: 12800
Flags: ht lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 vmx
Vulnerabilities: <filter>
Graphics:
Device-1: Intel Atom/Celeron/Pentium Processor x5-E8000/J3xxx/N3xxx
Integrated Graphics vendor: Micro-Star MSI driver: i915 v: kernel
arch: Gen-8 process: Intel 14nm built: 2014-15 ports: active: HDMI-A-3
empty: DP-1, DP-2, DP-3, HDMI-A-1, HDMI-A-2 bus-ID: 00:02.0
chip-ID: 8086:22b1 class-ID: 0300
Display: server: X.Org v: 1.21.1.11 with: Xwayland v: 24.1.1
compositor: xfwm v: 4.20.0 driver: X: loaded: intel dri: iris gpu: i915
display-ID: localhost:10.0 screens: 1
Screen-1: 0 s-res: 1920x1080 s-dpi: 96 s-size: 509x286mm (20.04x11.26")
s-diag: 584mm (22.99")
Monitor-1: HDMI-A-3 mapped: DVI-D-0 model: Samsung T22C350 built: 2012
res: 1920x1080 hz: 60 dpi: 92 gamma: 1.2 size: 531x298mm (20.91x11.73")
diag: 547mm (21.5") ratio: 16:9 modes: max: 1920x1080 min: 720x400
API: OpenGL v: 4.5 vendor: mesa v: 23.3.4 glx-v: 1.4 es-v: 3.2
direct-render: yes renderer: llvmpipe (LLVM 17.0.6 128 bits)
device-ID: ffffffff:ffffffff memory: 7.44 GiB unified: yes
API: Vulkan v: 1.3.275 layers: 1 device: 0 type: integrated-gpu name: Intel
HD Graphics 405 (BSW) driver: N/A device-ID: 8086:22b1 surfaces: xcb,xlib
API: EGL Message: EGL data requires eglinfo. Check --recommends.
Isengard:~ #
>
> I'm looking for a replacement for my wife's sort-of 'desktop' (Windows
> 10 laptop in a drawer with external dispay, keyboard and mouse) and I
> wonder what CPU I need.
This type of minipc can be bolted to a flat display (behind, on 4 nut holes they have), so that the footprint on a table is minimal. You may have observed this type of setup in banks and offices. Mine has both ethernet and WiFi.
I did not do this. I connected it to an external hard disk over USB3, which eventually grew up to 4 disks. Now it runs a software raid 6 with 8 hard disks instead. I would actually need a more powerful version. It draws minimal electricity.
>
> *My* current (Windows 11) laptop has an AMD Ryzen 5 5000 Series
> (System Information says: "AMD Ryzen 5 5625U with Radeon Graphics, 2300
> MHz, 6 Core(s)") which is fast enough, but I wonder what comparable
> 'mini-PC' CPU I would need. Some of the mini-PCs I see have normal CPU
> names, like "Intel Core 5", but others have meaningless (for me) names
> like 'N<some_number>'.
I'm not really a connoisseur of them. The idea is using laptop hardware, but in a tiny square box. Add display and keyboard. It is a neat idea for media servers (absolutely silent), or home or office computers, as long as the tasks are not cpu intensive. Then a fan would be desired. Not the thing if you are going to do video conversion, but perfect for browsing internet or light-medium office work.
Obviously, some come with Windows installed. I bought mine empty.
--
Cheers, Carlos.
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| From | c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> |
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| Date | 2025-07-18 23:38 -0400 |
| Subject | Re: mini-PC (was: Trouble with laptop display) |
| Message-ID | <cbednZEAZIahjub1nZ2dnZfqn_WdnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #69726 |
On 7/18/25 3:58 PM, Frank Slootweg wrote: > Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote: > [...] >> Oh, some videos overload another one of my laptops (too small, Lenovo, >> fanless) and my mini-PC MSI Cubi N aka acting server. I did not try on >> the Compaq. Usually videos done at 4K and/or h265. Some youtubes >> overload firefox on those machines and can't watch at full screen. > > Can you give me a pointer to some specs of your 'mini-PC MSI Cubi N', > especially the CPU (brand, series, model, speed, cores)? > > I'm looking for a replacement for my wife's sort-of 'desktop' (Windows > 10 laptop in a drawer with external dispay, keyboard and mouse) and I > wonder what CPU I need. > > *My* current (Windows 11) laptop has an AMD Ryzen 5 5000 Series > (System Information says: "AMD Ryzen 5 5625U with Radeon Graphics, 2300 > MHz, 6 Core(s)") which is fast enough, but I wonder what comparable > 'mini-PC' CPU I would need. Some of the mini-PCs I see have normal CPU > names, like "Intel Core 5", but others have meaningless (for me) names > like 'N<some_number>'. Ummm, personal experience, look at the 'BMax' and 'BeeLink' mini PCs ... most are JUST big enough to hold an SSS inside the case. They can be had at almost any level of power you need - from low-end laptop up into the hotter categories (gotta suffer a fan there). Prices are good. Performance is good. They all come with Winders ... but if you're quick with the BIOS key you can ensure that doesn't run for a single millisecond (matter of PRIDE !). Best results have been with MX Linux - the 'Advanced Hardware' version. Still have Manjaro running on one of them. With Linux, even the lower-end ones can do quite a lot.
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| From | Robert <invalid@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-07-17 21:56 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <105brt7$c5tt$1@paganini.bofh.team> |
| In reply to | #69677 |
On 17/07/2025 12:00, Carlos E.R. wrote: > > I don't feel up to doing it myself, I would need to find a shop willing > to do it. The laptop has seen 14 years of service, 14 years is a good service and it deserves a good retirement present such as a gold watch <https://retireon.com.au/gold-watch-retirement-tradition>. You can then employ (in fact buy) a Refurbished Laptop to replace the old one. It will work out cheaper in the long run rather than buying parts from eBay and looking for a local shop to fix them. Some are good but most are bunch of crooks. They will swap other good parts from the laptop without telling you.
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| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2025-07-18 09:49 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <ntapklxv3l.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> |
| In reply to | #69691 |
On 2025-07-17 23:56, Robert wrote:
> On 17/07/2025 12:00, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>
>>
>> I don't feel up to doing it myself, I would need to find a shop willing
>> to do it. The laptop has seen 14 years of service,
>
>
> 14 years is a good service and it deserves a good retirement present
> such as a gold watch
> <https://retireon.com.au/gold-watch-retirement-tradition>.
>
> You can then employ (in fact buy) a Refurbished Laptop to replace the
> old one. It will work out cheaper in the long run rather than buying
> parts from eBay and looking for a local shop to fix them. Some are good
> but most are bunch of crooks. They will swap other good parts from the
> laptop without telling you.
yes, refurbished lappys is a good idea.
A quick search finds the cheapest "Portátil Lenovo ThinkPad T470 Intel
Core i5-6300U/8GB/256GB SSD/14" at 185€.
<https://www.pccomponentes.com/lenovo-thinkpad-t470-intel-core-i5-6300u-8gb-256gb-ssd-14?refurbished=seminew>
"Reconditioned" tablets start at 40€ (10"). A quick search finds a
"Tablet Lenovo Tab M11 11" 4/128GB Grey Pen Stylus" at 140€.
Android 13.
Mmm, designed for students, not multimedia.
<https://www.pccomponentes.com/lenovo-tab-m11-11-4-128gb-gris-pen-stylus?refurbished=functional>
Tablet Samsung Galaxy Tab A9+ WiFi 11" 8/128GB Gris Reacondicionado
Android 13 (we are on 16, 13 is old)
175€
<https://www.pccomponentes.com/samsung-galaxy-tab-a9-wifi-11-8-128gb-gris?refurbished=functional>
189€
Tablet Xiaomi Redmi Pad Pro 12.1" 6/128GB Gris Grafito Reacondicionado
189€
Four Dolby Atmos speakers for your portable personal cinema:
An immersive audiovisual experience. With four Dolby
Atmos-compatible stereo speakers combined with the newly
enhanced Dolby Vision technology, the Redmi Pad Pro delivers
stunning cinematic experiences, from superior sound quality
to high-fidelity visuals and stunning cinema-level effects.
Xiaomi HyperOS operating system and Android U
<https://www.pccomponentes.com/tablet-xiaomi-redmi-pad-pro-121-6-128gb-gris-grafito?refurbished=seminew>
?? This one is enticing, but I know nothing about that operating
system. Chinese. Will it run VLC or Kodi?
or...
I could simply use my good laptop, moving it around when needed, instead
of purchasing anything. My old laptop was very good for this usage
because it existed, it was a way of using old hardware past its time.
Now that it doesn't work, I can use my working, good, laptop instead. I
have to move it each time, but I save on having to maintain more
hardware or buying hardware.
I can try it out today.
--
Cheers, Carlos.
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| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2025-07-18 11:08 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <ehfpklx015.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> |
| In reply to | #69706 |
On 2025-07-18 09:49, Carlos E.R. wrote: > On 2025-07-17 23:56, Robert wrote: >> On 17/07/2025 12:00, Carlos E.R. wrote: > or... > > I could simply use my good laptop, moving it around when needed, instead > of purchasing anything. My old laptop was very good for this usage > because it existed, it was a way of using old hardware past its time. > Now that it doesn't work, I can use my working, good, laptop instead. I > have to move it each time, but I save on having to maintain more > hardware or buying hardware. > > I can try it out today. I connected the old laptop to an VGA display. My desktop computer display has a VGA entry, but it is the one with three rows of pins, the same as in the vga cards, so that the cable I found would not fit, because in the monitor end it has 2 rows, and on the PC end 3 rows. I would need a cable with 3 pin rows on each end. So I dug out an old monitor that has a VGA cable attached (no plug on the display end). Actually, it is the first flat display I bought, second hand. They were very expensive at first. Connected it to the old laptop, powered every thing, and after reseating a power connector, the display did display the correct output. Fantastic that it did so automatically. Only that the monitor is 3/4, and the laptop has the modern form aspect, so a bit was lost to the right. The machine was actually hibernated, so it restored to the running XFCE session, where I could find out what episode I was watching of Montalbano. Wrote it down, and did the final power off sequence. Farewell. It is actually the first computer I own that actually fails. I have older machines still working, like an Amstrad PC 1512 DD. -- Cheers, Carlos.
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-07-18 11:11 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <105d6k3$1voed$11@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #69707 |
On 18/07/2025 10:08, Carlos E.R. wrote:
> On 2025-07-18 09:49, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>> On 2025-07-17 23:56, Robert wrote:
>>> On 17/07/2025 12:00, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>
>> or...
>>
>> I could simply use my good laptop, moving it around when needed,
>> instead of purchasing anything. My old laptop was very good for this
>> usage because it existed, it was a way of using old hardware past its
>> time. Now that it doesn't work, I can use my working, good, laptop
>> instead. I have to move it each time, but I save on having to maintain
>> more hardware or buying hardware.
>>
>> I can try it out today.
>
> I connected the old laptop to an VGA display.
>
> My desktop computer display has a VGA entry, but it is the one with
> three rows of pins, the same as in the vga cards, so that the cable I
> found would not fit, because in the monitor end it has 2 rows, and on
> the PC end 3 rows. I would need a cable with 3 pin rows on each end.
>
> So I dug out an old monitor that has a VGA cable attached (no plug on
> the display end). Actually, it is the first flat display I bought,
> second hand. They were very expensive at first. Connected it to the old
> laptop, powered every thing, and after reseating a power connector, the
> display did display the correct output. Fantastic that it did so
> automatically. Only that the monitor is 3/4, and the laptop has the
> modern form aspect, so a bit was lost to the right.
>
> The machine was actually hibernated, so it restored to the running XFCE
> session, where I could find out what episode I was watching of
> Montalbano. Wrote it down, and did the final power off sequence.
>
> Farewell.
>
> It is actually the first computer I own that actually fails. I have
> older machines still working, like an Amstrad PC 1512 DD.
>
RIP old friend.
So if it is *merely* a display problem perhaps you could send it to all
the peole here who thingk that replacing a screen and cable is a doddle..:-)
--
"The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow witted
man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest
thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly
persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of doubt, what is laid
before him."
- Leo Tolstoy
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| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2025-07-18 12:22 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <rrjpklxmvm.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> |
| In reply to | #69712 |
On 2025-07-18 12:11, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > On 18/07/2025 10:08, Carlos E.R. wrote: >> On 2025-07-18 09:49, Carlos E.R. wrote: >>> On 2025-07-17 23:56, Robert wrote: >>>> On 17/07/2025 12:00, Carlos E.R. wrote: >> >>> or... >>> >>> I could simply use my good laptop, moving it around when needed, >>> instead of purchasing anything. My old laptop was very good for this >>> usage because it existed, it was a way of using old hardware past its >>> time. Now that it doesn't work, I can use my working, good, laptop >>> instead. I have to move it each time, but I save on having to >>> maintain more hardware or buying hardware. >>> >>> I can try it out today. >> >> I connected the old laptop to an VGA display. >> >> My desktop computer display has a VGA entry, but it is the one with >> three rows of pins, the same as in the vga cards, so that the cable I >> found would not fit, because in the monitor end it has 2 rows, and on >> the PC end 3 rows. I would need a cable with 3 pin rows on each end. >> >> So I dug out an old monitor that has a VGA cable attached (no plug on >> the display end). Actually, it is the first flat display I bought, >> second hand. They were very expensive at first. Connected it to the >> old laptop, powered every thing, and after reseating a power >> connector, the display did display the correct output. Fantastic that >> it did so automatically. Only that the monitor is 3/4, and the laptop >> has the modern form aspect, so a bit was lost to the right. >> >> The machine was actually hibernated, so it restored to the running >> XFCE session, where I could find out what episode I was watching of >> Montalbano. Wrote it down, and did the final power off sequence. >> >> Farewell. >> >> It is actually the first computer I own that actually fails. I have >> older machines still working, like an Amstrad PC 1512 DD. >> > RIP old friend. > > So if it is *merely* a display problem perhaps you could send it to all > the peole here who thingk that replacing a screen and cable is a > doddle..:-) LOL :-D -- Cheers, Carlos.
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| From | Jack <Jack@invalid.invalid> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2025-07-18 20:24 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <105earh$lc88$1@paganini.bofh.team> |
| In reply to | #69712 |
On 18/07/2025 11:11, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > So if it is *merely* a display problem perhaps you could send it to all > the peole here who thingk that replacing a screen and cable is a doddle..:-) The thing(s) most users of laptops can do themselves are: Change/upgrade HDD/SSD Upgrade Memory Apply new CPU thermal paste Clean internal fan Change keyboard (but very rarely!!) Change battery (but requires unscrewing the old one on thin laptops - not accessible easily these days) Anything else requires careful cost/benefit analysis. Linux cross-posting removed!
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-07-18 22:05 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <105ecvn$296vq$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #69727 |
On 18/07/2025 21:24, Jack wrote: > On 18/07/2025 11:11, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >> So if it is *merely* a display problem perhaps you could send it to all >> the peole here who thingk that replacing a screen and cable is a doddle..:-) > > The thing(s) most users of laptops can do themselves are: > > Change/upgrade HDD/SSD > Upgrade Memory > Apply new CPU thermal paste > Clean internal fan > Change keyboard (but very rarely!!) > Change battery (but requires unscrewing the old one on thin laptops - not > accessible easily these days) > Unfortunately all these require one thing most users of laptops *cannot* do themselves Open the fucking thing up without destroying it! > Anything else requires careful cost/benefit analysis. > > Linux cross-posting removed! > > -- I would rather have questions that cannot be answered... ...than to have answers that cannot be questioned Richard Feynman
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| From | Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2025-07-18 18:31 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <105ei0e$2aehq$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #69729 |
On Fri, 7/18/2025 5:05 PM, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > On 18/07/2025 21:24, Jack wrote: >> On 18/07/2025 11:11, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >>> So if it is *merely* a display problem perhaps you could send it to all >>> the peole here who thingk that replacing a screen and cable is a doddle..:-) >> >> The thing(s) most users of laptops can do themselves are: >> >> Change/upgrade HDD/SSD >> Upgrade Memory >> Apply new CPU thermal paste >> Clean internal fan >> Change keyboard (but very rarely!!) >> Change battery (but requires unscrewing the old one on thin laptops - not >> accessible easily these days) >> > Unfortunately all these require one thing most users of laptops *cannot* do themselves > Open the fucking thing up without destroying it! > > >> Anything else requires careful cost/benefit analysis. They're just screws, they won't bite :-) Since there is nothing particularly to lose on this project, it all depends on whether a carcass can be located for a transplant. If the disassembly-reassembly doesn't work, it isn't the end of the world. If parts cannot be located, then the project has an easy answer. If the parts price is too high, that also answers the question. That's why a carcass is usually cheaper than "focused parts". People who part out and charge the moon for the bits, are to be avoided. Paul
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2025-07-19 00:50 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <105emk2$2bbn8$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #69732 |
On 18/07/2025 23:31, Paul wrote: > On Fri, 7/18/2025 5:05 PM, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >> On 18/07/2025 21:24, Jack wrote: >>> On 18/07/2025 11:11, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >>>> So if it is *merely* a display problem perhaps you could send it to all >>>> the peole here who thingk that replacing a screen and cable is a doddle..:-) >>> >>> The thing(s) most users of laptops can do themselves are: >>> >>> Change/upgrade HDD/SSD >>> Upgrade Memory >>> Apply new CPU thermal paste >>> Clean internal fan >>> Change keyboard (but very rarely!!) >>> Change battery (but requires unscrewing the old one on thin laptops - not >>> accessible easily these days) >>> >> Unfortunately all these require one thing most users of laptops *cannot* do themselves >> Open the fucking thing up without destroying it! >> >> >>> Anything else requires careful cost/benefit analysis. > > They're just screws, they won't bite :-) > Mostly they are little plastic tabs that invite a screwdriver to pry apart and when it slips, it takes out the motherboard > Since there is nothing particularly to lose on > this project, it all depends on whether a carcass can > be located for a transplant. If the disassembly-reassembly > doesn't work, it isn't the end of the world. > > If parts cannot be located, then the project has an easy answer. > If the parts price is too high, that also answers the question. > That's why a carcass is usually cheaper than "focused parts". > People who part out and charge the moon for the bits, are > to be avoided. > > Paul -- Truth welcomes investigation because truth knows investigation will lead to converts. It is deception that uses all the other techniques.
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| From | "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2025-07-19 01:35 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <105ep81$2b08m$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #69735 |
On 2025/7/19 0:50:26, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > On 18/07/2025 23:31, Paul wrote: >> On Fri, 7/18/2025 5:05 PM, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >>> On 18/07/2025 21:24, Jack wrote: >>>> On 18/07/2025 11:11, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >>>>> So if it is *merely* a display problem perhaps you could send it to >>>>> all >>>>> the peole here who thingk that replacing a screen and cable is a >>>>> doddle..:-) >>>> >>>> The thing(s) most users of laptops can do themselves are: >>>> >>>> Change/upgrade HDD/SSD >>>> Upgrade Memory >>>> Apply new CPU thermal paste >>>> Clean internal fan >>>> Change keyboard (but very rarely!!) >>>> Change battery (but requires unscrewing the old one on thin laptops >>>> - not >>>> accessible easily these days) I would attempt all of those, with the exception of the thermal paste. (HDD/SSD and memory much easier if there are panels over them that can be removed, but that tends not to be the case on modern laptops, which also make the battery [I assume we're talking main battery not CMOS one] difficult to get at.) I'd also have a go at dismantling the lid to get at the display module, though probably only if I could find a YouTube. >>>> >>> Unfortunately all these require one thing most users of laptops >>> *cannot* do themselves >>> Open the fucking thing up without destroying it! >>> >>> >>>> Anything else requires careful cost/benefit analysis. >> >> They're just screws, they won't bite :-) Agreed (though finding where some of them _are_, such as under the keyboard, isn't always easy) ...>> > Mostly they are little plastic tabs that invite a screwdriver to pry > apart and when it slips, it takes out the motherboard ... but there is that. Though dismantling the lid is less risky as the motherboard isn't in it.> >> Since there is nothing particularly to lose on >> this project, it all depends on whether a carcass can This is true; Carlos has more or less said he's going to scrap it, so nothing to lose. I'd give it a try - would seem a pity to if it _is_ just a loose connection. >> be located for a transplant. If the disassembly-reassembly >> doesn't work, it isn't the end of the world. >> >> If parts cannot be located, then the project has an easy answer. >> If the parts price is too high, that also answers the question. The disassembly, in my case, allowed me to find the part number of the display _module_ (display plus backlight as a sealed unit), which was on a label on the back of the module. >> That's why a carcass is usually cheaper than "focused parts". >> People who part out and charge the moon for the bits, are >> to be avoided. Depends on the size of the moon they charge (-:. I have no experience with computer parts, but car parts, I was willing to pay a bit extra to get a clean, removed, and working part. (Handbrake cable many years ago; door lock and window winder assembly a few years ago.)>> >> Paul > John -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf "I hate the guys that criticize the enterprise of other guys whose enterprise has made them rise above the guys who criticize!" (W9BRD, former editor of "How's DX?" column in "QST")
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| From | Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2025-07-18 19:42 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <105f0n3$2buu9$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #69732 |
On 7/18/25 15:31, Paul wrote: > On Fri, 7/18/2025 5:05 PM, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >> On 18/07/2025 21:24, Jack wrote: >>> On 18/07/2025 11:11, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >>>> So if it is *merely* a display problem perhaps you could send it to all >>>> the peole here who thingk that replacing a screen and cable is a doddle..:-) >>> >>> The thing(s) most users of laptops can do themselves are: >>> >>> Change/upgrade HDD/SSD >>> Upgrade Memory >>> Apply new CPU thermal paste >>> Clean internal fan >>> Change keyboard (but very rarely!!) >>> Change battery (but requires unscrewing the old one on thin laptops - not >>> accessible easily these days) >>> >> Unfortunately all these require one thing most users of laptops *cannot* do themselves >> Open the fucking thing up without destroying it! >> >> >>> Anything else requires careful cost/benefit analysis. > > They're just screws, they won't bite :-) No but they will roll away and hide. Use a clean unused muffin tin to confine them to work area. > > Since there is nothing particularly to lose on > this project, it all depends on whether a carcass can > be located for a transplant. If the disassembly-reassembly > doesn't work, it isn't the end of the world. > > If parts cannot be located, then the project has an easy answer. > If the parts price is too high, that also answers the question. > That's why a carcass is usually cheaper than "focused parts". > People who part out and charge the moon for the bits, are > to be avoided. > > Paul bliss
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| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-07-19 15:11 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <v5isklxsqf.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> |
| In reply to | #69742 |
On 2025-07-19 04:42, Bobbie Sellers wrote: > > > On 7/18/25 15:31, Paul wrote: >> On Fri, 7/18/2025 5:05 PM, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >>> On 18/07/2025 21:24, Jack wrote: >>>> On 18/07/2025 11:11, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >>>>> So if it is *merely* a display problem perhaps you could send it to >>>>> all >>>>> the peole here who thingk that replacing a screen and cable is a >>>>> doddle..:-) >>>> >>>> The thing(s) most users of laptops can do themselves are: >>>> >>>> Change/upgrade HDD/SSD >>>> Upgrade Memory >>>> Apply new CPU thermal paste >>>> Clean internal fan >>>> Change keyboard (but very rarely!!) >>>> Change battery (but requires unscrewing the old one on thin laptops >>>> - not >>>> accessible easily these days) >>>> >>> Unfortunately all these require one thing most users of laptops >>> *cannot* do themselves >>> Open the fucking thing up without destroying it! >>> >>> >>>> Anything else requires careful cost/benefit analysis. >> >> They're just screws, they won't bite :-) > > No but they will roll away and hide. Use a clean unused muffin tin > to confine them to work area. If you can grab them before they jump. Also, not all of them are the same thread, or the same length. So using a single tin is problematic. -- Cheers, Carlos.
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| From | Simon <SimonJ@eu.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-07-19 13:36 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <105g70k$2p7tu$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #69755 |
On Sat, 19 Jul 2025 15:11:59 +0200, Carlos E.R. wrote: > On 2025-07-19 04:42, Bobbie Sellers wrote: >> >> >> On 7/18/25 15:31, Paul wrote: >>> On Fri, 7/18/2025 5:05 PM, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >>>> On 18/07/2025 21:24, Jack wrote: >>>>> On 18/07/2025 11:11, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >>>>>> So if it is *merely* a display problem perhaps you could send it to >>>>>> all the peole here who thingk that replacing a screen and cable is >>>>>> a doddle..:-) >>>>> >>>>> The thing(s) most users of laptops can do themselves are: >>>>> >>>>> Change/upgrade HDD/SSD Upgrade Memory Apply new CPU thermal paste >>>>> Clean internal fan Change keyboard (but very rarely!!) >>>>> Change battery (but requires unscrewing the old one on thin laptops >>>>> - not accessible easily these days) >>>>> >>>> Unfortunately all these require one thing most users of laptops >>>> *cannot* do themselves Open the fucking thing up without destroying >>>> it! >>>> >>>> >>>>> Anything else requires careful cost/benefit analysis. >>> >>> They're just screws, they won't bite :-) >> >> No but they will roll away and hide. Use a clean unused muffin >> tin >> to confine them to work area. > > If you can grab them before they jump. > > > Also, not all of them are the same thread, or the same length. So using > a single tin is problematic. You should note what came from where, a very simple way to document it all is to video the disassembly, then you can refer back when rebuilding it. -- Simon RLU: 222126
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| From | not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) |
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| Date | 2025-07-20 09:55 +1000 |
| Message-ID | <687c3087@news.ausics.net> |
| In reply to | #69756 |
In comp.os.linux.misc Simon <SimonJ@eu.invalid> wrote: > On Sat, 19 Jul 2025 15:11:59 +0200, Carlos E.R. wrote: >> Also, not all of them are the same thread, or the same length. So using >> a single tin is problematic. > > You should note what came from where, a very simple way to document it all > is to video the disassembly, then you can refer back when rebuilding it. Service manuals tell you all that anyway, and I already posted a link to the service manual for this laptop. Without one it can be hard, but with a good manual like that everything's much easier. Without one storing the screws usually isn't the issue for me, it's finding where they've hidden them under pads/stickers/trim on the laptop. -- __ __ #_ < |\| |< _#
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2025-07-20 02:02 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <me311rF9oouU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #69763 |
On 20 Jul 2025 09:55:51 +1000, Computer Nerd Kev wrote: > Without one storing the screws usually isn't the issue for me, it's > finding where they've hidden them under pads/stickers/trim on the > laptop. It was so long ago I don't even remember what it was, maybe a Cpmpaq, but I managed to pour half a cup of coffee on a laptop keyboard. Replacement wasn't difficult -- as long as you had the secret guide to the concealed fasteners. It wasn't any worse than installing a radio in my 2007 Toyota. Thankfully the Yaris forum had a guide to all the snap together plastic bits and pieces you had to remove to get to the actual DIN cutout.
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| From | Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> |
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| Date | 2025-07-20 21:10 +1000 |
| Message-ID | <105iir2$3apb2$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #69764 |
On 20/07/2025 12:02 pm, rbowman wrote: > On 20 Jul 2025 09:55:51 +1000, Computer Nerd Kev wrote: > >> Without one storing the screws usually isn't the issue for me, it's >> finding where they've hidden them under pads/stickers/trim on the >> laptop. > > It was so long ago I don't even remember what it was, maybe a Cpmpaq, but > I managed to pour half a cup of coffee on a laptop keyboard. Replacement > wasn't difficult -- as long as you had the secret guide to the concealed > fasteners. My HP 6730b laptop got half a glass on Coca-Cola spilt on its keyboard. Many of the keys stopped working .... but a USB plug-in keyboard fixed the problem. -- Daniel70
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| From | Simon <SimonJ@eu.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-07-20 05:00 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <105ht58$2jtfp$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #69763 |
On 20 Jul 2025 09:55:51 +1000, Computer Nerd Kev wrote: > Service manuals tell you all that anyway, and I already posted a link to > the service manual for this laptop. Without one it can be hard, but with > a good manual like that everything's much easier. > > Without one storing the screws usually isn't the issue for me, it's > finding where they've hidden them under pads/stickers/trim on the > laptop. Yes, you're never sure if a clip is stuck or there is a screw there somewhere. -- Simon RLU: 222126
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| From | Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> |
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| Date | 2025-07-19 21:43 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <105hs4v$36j6t$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #69756 |
On 7/19/25 06:36, Simon wrote: > On Sat, 19 Jul 2025 15:11:59 +0200, Carlos E.R. wrote: > >> On 2025-07-19 04:42, Bobbie Sellers wrote: >>> >>> >>> On 7/18/25 15:31, Paul wrote: >>>> On Fri, 7/18/2025 5:05 PM, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >>>>> On 18/07/2025 21:24, Jack wrote: >>>>>> On 18/07/2025 11:11, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >>>>>>> So if it is *merely* a display problem perhaps you could send it to >>>>>>> all the peole here who thingk that replacing a screen and cable is >>>>>>> a doddle..:-) >>>>>> >>>>>> The thing(s) most users of laptops can do themselves are: >>>>>> >>>>>> Change/upgrade HDD/SSD Upgrade Memory Apply new CPU thermal paste >>>>>> Clean internal fan Change keyboard (but very rarely!!) >>>>>> Change battery (but requires unscrewing the old one on thin laptops >>>>>> - not accessible easily these days) >>>>>> >>>>> Unfortunately all these require one thing most users of laptops >>>>> *cannot* do themselves Open the fucking thing up without destroying >>>>> it! >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Anything else requires careful cost/benefit analysis. >>>> >>>> They're just screws, they won't bite :-) >>> >>> No but they will roll away and hide. Use a clean unused muffin >>> tin >>> to confine them to work area. >> >> If you can grab them before they jump. >> >> >> Also, not all of them are the same thread, or the same length. So using >> a single tin is problematic. Oh you unfamiliar with the concept! A muffin tin is a baking tool that has a number of cups to hold the muffin dough. So that one tin has from 8 to 12 cups on it and the fewer cups, the larger the individual cup are so that your screws have plenty of space> > > You should note what came from where, a very simple way to document it all > is to video the disassembly, then you can refer back when rebuilding it. > In any video the problem is distinguishing any tiny part from another. bliss- Dell Precision 7730- PCLOS 2025.07- Linux 6.12.39- Plasma 5.27.11
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