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| Started by | Leroy H <lh@somewhere.net> |
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| First post | 2026-10-16 03:26 +0000 |
| Last post | 2026-10-18 10:59 +0000 |
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| From | c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> |
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| Date | 2026-10-18 05:06 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <MpGcnSYZ_--CEUn3nZ2dnZfqnPSdnZ2d@giganews.com> |
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On 10/18/26 04:53, Jan Panteltje wrote: >> c186282 <c186282@nnada.net>wrote: >>> On 10/17/26 03:20, Jan Panteltje wrote: >>>> Lawrence =?iso-8859-13?q?D=FFOliveiro?= <ldo@nz.invalid>wrote: >>>>> On Fri, 16 Oct 2026 17:10:18 GMT, Jan Panteltje wrote: >>>> >>>>> Well C++ is a crime against humanity >>>>> 'operator overloading...' crap bloated crap. >>>> >>>> Operator overloading is a very handy feature. Yes, C++ is overly >>>> complicated. Java left out that feature of C++, and it, too, still >>>> manages to be excessively complicated. >>>> >>>> Python, on the other hand, includes operator overloading, yet is still >>>> only a small fraction of the complexity of either Java or C++. Such a >>>> feature is useful, for example, in letting you express operations on >>>> mathematical objects (like vectors and matrices) using something close >>>> to the original mathematical notation. >>> >>> OK >>> I never got much into Python >> >> DO check it out. It can now do basically EVERYTHING >> and is faster than it used to be. P4 is promised to >> be even faster and more efficient without changing >> the syntax. >> >> I did not use Python2 because I heard that P3 was coming ... >> why learn an obsolete dialect ? Took 'em a little while >> to port everything over to the new version, but it got >> done and then went over and above. >> >> CAN be 'compiled' in a few ways. A couple options >> translate to 'C' and then compile that. IS much >> faster, though not quite as fast as writing a >> native 'C' pgm. However the EASE of writing and >> great string-slice functions (stolen from FORTRAN) >> make Python really nice. Oh, 95% of the time you >> don't NEED top speed for applications. That's old >> thinking - EASE/comprehensibility can be far >> more important. >> >> Oh, the DOCUMENTATION/How-To stuff for Python >> is everywhere and detailed. A zillion solutions >> for YOUR particular problem. >> >> Since forever I wrote in 'C' or Pascal. I even >> did stuff in "B". However I rarely use 'C' >> anymore. Might still rec writing 'servers' in 'C' ... >> esp if high-volume ... but that sentiment is >> half 'tradition'. >> >> Anyway, learn before 'AI' tries to steal it >> all away. CHAT can find/write low/medium >> complexity Python code ... but sometimes >> it seems more complex/verbose/obscure than >> a human would write it. Mostly it just >> steals human-writ examples it finds. >> >> DID ask CHAT to write me a basic b-tree >> database pgm in FORTRAN the other day. >> Kinda/sorta did so ... but didn't include >> any load/save code (though DID warn about >> that prob). Next - same thing, but in >> Modula2 - we'll see what its limits are :-) >> >> Pref M3 ... but almost no Linux/anything >> compilers for that - esp that actually >> install correctly. Some ancient DOS stuff. >> Do have a paper manual for "Turbo Modula-2" >> but it's all 8/16 bit and won't run on a lot >> of chips these days. Would have to use >> DOSBox or something - inefficient. >> >>> Never needed it for the things I do. >>> Also it seems to be changing all the time? >> >> Ummm ... not really. The only "big" - ok >> not SO big - change was P2 to P3. Most >> P2 programs can be tweaked for P3 pretty >> quick. Think there's even a converter app. >> >> Now if by "changing" you mean new functions, >> yep, people keep writing them for obvious >> reasons. The good bit is it means there are >> several paths to whatever you're trying to >> do - pick the best for your need. >> >> I did a bunch of video security cam apps. >> Sometimes "OpenCV2" will do it all, sometimes >> "Pillow" lib is just fine. Can even combine >> in some cases. >> >>> Most code I write is in C or in asm for Microchips. >>> asm is extremely powerful >> >> Well aware. When CP/M and even DOS were around >> had to write ASM bits, or full apps, because >> there just wasn't anything better. PICs and >> similar microcontrollers - ASM is still the >> best way to the finer chip tricks. >> >>> understand the hardware!!! >> >> The weaker the hardware the more you have to >> understand it. Most modern big chips, so much >> overkill that you really don't need to know >> every little nuance. Sorry, 1% better performance >> isn't worth learning 99% more tiny-tweak shit >> that'll probably be obsolete in the very next >> point-revision of the CPU. >> >>> https://panteltje.nl/panteltje/newsflex/download.html >>> https://panteltje.nl/panteltje/quadcopter/index.html >>> https://panteltje.nl/panteltje/pic/index.html >>> These days giggle bytes seem to be needed to just say: 'Hello world'. >>> Too many layers of crap. >>> >>> But I come from a hardware background, in the sixties there were no 'computers' >>> yet they did a manned Moon landing and return. >> >> Some of that shit was just bizarre ! >> >> Loved hand-knitted "rope memory", what >> the LEM computer used :-) >> >>> Now they have nothing to show but driving around the block (earth orbit) with >>> all that computing power. >> >> All the computing power in the Apollo ... yer >> base iWatch has a good 1000x that, maybe 10000x. >> BUT, they had to make do with what they had ... >> and most of that was govt-specced in '64. At >> least Apollo wasn't all vacuum tubes :-) >> >> Now space probes - I really admire the people >> who design the hardware/software. Insane levels >> of redundancy/work-arounds, almost a black art. >> It's why the Voyagers are still working out >> beyond the edge of our solar system all this >> time later. Kinda hoping aliens will find one >> and upgrade/repair :-) > > Yes and the new telescopes > https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2026/10/261016070630.htm > NASA’s Roman Space Telescope exceeds expectations by nearly 30% > > I think, our current understanding of 'the Universe' and 'big bang' is at some > point completely wrong, Likely. > as is our 'understanding' of fusion (why ITER and other experiments like it > will never work). Current approaches ... won't work worth damn. Gotta find some 'quantum tricks'. SOME way to, even for a sub-nanosecond, to screw with the physics. > I look at normal radioactivity as you having a lot of springs each compressed > and hold together by a little metal clamp. > Every now and then a clamp breaks an the spring jumps, 'radioactivity' > 'radiation'. > Put enough springs like that together and if one goes and hits a few other ones > like it then you get a chain reaction, all clamps break, all springs jump. > > But 'fusion' they try, is nothing but pushing the springs together without even > using clamps.. > Costs all of energy to keep those together and no more energy will ever come > out than you put in. > The springs with clamps are just parts of the expanding universe that had not > expanded yet. > > Dark matter, so much bullshit, so many einStone parrots, > so many mamaticians doing a divide by zero and then use 'renormalisation' > all parrots, too much senseless math, NO understanding. > It is a bit like Ohm's law, but then the radio tube was invented, a current in > a vacuum ! Ohms law broken? > Electrons moving turned out to be what electric current was! > You need a _mechanism_ to understand the universe, else the babble about > infinities will go on and no end and the understanding will remain zero. > CERN did recently find signs that space is filled with some fluid... > From: > https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2026/10/261004002556.htm > > Physicists just saw quarks make waves in the Big Bang’s primordial soup > Scientists have watched speeding quarks create ripples in primordial matter, > revealing just how liquid-like the early universe really was. > Date: > October 6, 2026 > Source: > Massachusetts Institute of Technology > Summary: > Physicists at CERN’s Large Hadron Collider have captured the clearest evidence > yet that quark-gluon plasma, the scorching-hot matter that filled the newborn > universe, behaves like a true liquid. > By tracking individual quarks as they blasted through the plasma, researchers > saw them leave behind ripples, splashes, and swirling wakes much like a duck > moving through water. > The finding suggests this primordial “soup” is so dense that it can slow > speeding quarks and respond collectively as a fluid. Still think "dark matter" is an hallucination. "Invisible Stuff" ??? Luminiferous Aether ??? Something ELSE going on.
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| From | Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-10-18 13:32 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <11b2hp7$15stb$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #94119 |
>c186282 <c186282@nnada.net>wrote: >>On 10/18/26 04:53, Jan Panteltje wrote: >>> c186282 <c186282@nnada.net>wrote: >>>> On 10/17/26 03:20, Jan Panteltje wrote: >>>>> Lawrence =?iso-8859-13?q?D=FFOliveiro?= <ldo@nz.invalid>wrote: >>>>>> On Fri, 16 Oct 2026 17:10:18 GMT, Jan Panteltje wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Well C++ is a crime against humanity >>>>>> 'operator overloading...' crap bloated crap. >>>>> >>>>> Operator overloading is a very handy feature. Yes, C++ is overly >>>>> complicated. Java left out that feature of C++, and it, too, still >>>>> manages to be excessively complicated. >>>>> >>>>> Python, on the other hand, includes operator overloading, yet is still >>>>> only a small fraction of the complexity of either Java or C++. Such a >>>>> feature is useful, for example, in letting you express operations on >>>>> mathematical objects (like vectors and matrices) using something close >>>>> to the original mathematical notation. >>>> >>>> OK >>>> I never got much into Python >>> >>> DO check it out. It can now do basically EVERYTHING >>> and is faster than it used to be. P4 is promised to >>> be even faster and more efficient without changing >>> the syntax. >>> >>> I did not use Python2 because I heard that P3 was coming ... >>> why learn an obsolete dialect ? Took 'em a little while >>> to port everything over to the new version, but it got >>> done and then went over and above. >>> >>> CAN be 'compiled' in a few ways. A couple options >>> translate to 'C' and then compile that. IS much >>> faster, though not quite as fast as writing a >>> native 'C' pgm. However the EASE of writing and >>> great string-slice functions (stolen from FORTRAN) >>> make Python really nice. Oh, 95% of the time you >>> don't NEED top speed for applications. That's old >>> thinking - EASE/comprehensibility can be far >>> more important. >>> >>> Oh, the DOCUMENTATION/How-To stuff for Python >>> is everywhere and detailed. A zillion solutions >>> for YOUR particular problem. >>> >>> Since forever I wrote in 'C' or Pascal. I even >>> did stuff in "B". However I rarely use 'C' >>> anymore. Might still rec writing 'servers' in 'C' ... >>> esp if high-volume ... but that sentiment is >>> half 'tradition'. >>> >>> Anyway, learn before 'AI' tries to steal it >>> all away. CHAT can find/write low/medium >>> complexity Python code ... but sometimes >>> it seems more complex/verbose/obscure than >>> a human would write it. Mostly it just >>> steals human-writ examples it finds. >>> >>> DID ask CHAT to write me a basic b-tree >>> database pgm in FORTRAN the other day. >>> Kinda/sorta did so ... but didn't include >>> any load/save code (though DID warn about >>> that prob). Next - same thing, but in >>> Modula2 - we'll see what its limits are :-) >>> >>> Pref M3 ... but almost no Linux/anything >>> compilers for that - esp that actually >>> install correctly. Some ancient DOS stuff. >>> Do have a paper manual for "Turbo Modula-2" >>> but it's all 8/16 bit and won't run on a lot >>> of chips these days. Would have to use >>> DOSBox or something - inefficient. >>> >>>> Never needed it for the things I do. >>>> Also it seems to be changing all the time? >>> >>> Ummm ... not really. The only "big" - ok >>> not SO big - change was P2 to P3. Most >>> P2 programs can be tweaked for P3 pretty >>> quick. Think there's even a converter app. >>> >>> Now if by "changing" you mean new functions, >>> yep, people keep writing them for obvious >>> reasons. The good bit is it means there are >>> several paths to whatever you're trying to >>> do - pick the best for your need. >>> >>> I did a bunch of video security cam apps. >>> Sometimes "OpenCV2" will do it all, sometimes >>> "Pillow" lib is just fine. Can even combine >>> in some cases. >>> >>>> Most code I write is in C or in asm for Microchips. >>>> asm is extremely powerful >>> >>> Well aware. When CP/M and even DOS were around >>> had to write ASM bits, or full apps, because >>> there just wasn't anything better. PICs and >>> similar microcontrollers - ASM is still the >>> best way to the finer chip tricks. >>> >>>> understand the hardware!!! >>> >>> The weaker the hardware the more you have to >>> understand it. Most modern big chips, so much >>> overkill that you really don't need to know >>> every little nuance. Sorry, 1% better performance >>> isn't worth learning 99% more tiny-tweak shit >>> that'll probably be obsolete in the very next >>> point-revision of the CPU. >>> >>>> https://panteltje.nl/panteltje/newsflex/download.html >>>> https://panteltje.nl/panteltje/quadcopter/index.html >>>> https://panteltje.nl/panteltje/pic/index.html >>>> These days giggle bytes seem to be needed to just say: 'Hello world'. >>>> Too many layers of crap. >>>> >>>> But I come from a hardware background, in the sixties there were no 'computers' >>>> yet they did a manned Moon landing and return. >>> >>> Some of that shit was just bizarre ! >>> >>> Loved hand-knitted "rope memory", what >>> the LEM computer used :-) >>> >>>> Now they have nothing to show but driving around the block (earth orbit) with >>>> all that computing power. >>> >>> All the computing power in the Apollo ... yer >>> base iWatch has a good 1000x that, maybe 10000x. >>> BUT, they had to make do with what they had ... >>> and most of that was govt-specced in '64. At >>> least Apollo wasn't all vacuum tubes :-) >>> >>> Now space probes - I really admire the people >>> who design the hardware/software. Insane levels >>> of redundancy/work-arounds, almost a black art. >>> It's why the Voyagers are still working out >>> beyond the edge of our solar system all this >>> time later. Kinda hoping aliens will find one >>> and upgrade/repair :-) >> >> Yes and the new telescopes >> https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2026/10/261016070630.htm >> NASA’s Roman Space Telescope exceeds expectations by nearly 30% >> >> I think, our current understanding of 'the Universe' and 'big bang' is at some >> point completely wrong, > > Likely. > >> as is our 'understanding' of fusion (why ITER and other experiments like it >> will never work). > > Current approaches ... won't work worth damn. > Gotta find some 'quantum tricks'. SOME way > to, even for a sub-nanosecond, to screw with > the physics. > >> I look at normal radioactivity as you having a lot of springs each compressed >> and hold together by a little metal clamp. >> Every now and then a clamp breaks an the spring jumps, 'radioactivity' >> 'radiation'. >> Put enough springs like that together and if one goes and hits a few other ones >> like it then you get a chain reaction, all clamps break, all springs jump. >> >> But 'fusion' they try, is nothing but pushing the springs together without even >> using clamps.. >> Costs all of energy to keep those together and no more energy will ever come >> out than you put in. >> The springs with clamps are just parts of the expanding universe that had not >> expanded yet. >> >> Dark matter, so much bullshit, so many einStone parrots, >> so many mamaticians doing a divide by zero and then use 'renormalisation' >> all parrots, too much senseless math, NO understanding. >> It is a bit like Ohm's law, but then the radio tube was invented, a current in >> a vacuum ! Ohms law broken? >> Electrons moving turned out to be what electric current was! >> You need a _mechanism_ to understand the universe, else the babble about >> infinities will go on and no end and the understanding will remain zero. >> CERN did recently find signs that space is filled with some fluid... >> From: >> https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2026/10/261004002556.htm >> >> Physicists just saw quarks make waves in the Big Bang’s primordial soup >> Scientists have watched speeding quarks create ripples in primordial matter, >> revealing just how liquid-like the early universe really was. >> Date: >> October 6, 2026 >> Source: >> Massachusetts Institute of Technology >> Summary: >> Physicists at CERN’s Large Hadron Collider have captured the clearest evidence >> yet that quark-gluon plasma, the scorching-hot matter that filled the newborn >> universe, behaves like a true liquid. >> By tracking individual quarks as they blasted through the plasma, researchers >> saw them leave behind ripples, splashes, and swirling wakes much like a duck >> moving through water. >> The finding suggests this primordial “soup” is so dense that it can slow >> speeding quarks and respond collectively as a fluid. > > Still think "dark matter" is an hallucination. > > "Invisible Stuff" ??? Luminiferous Aether ??? > > Something ELSE going on. One theory I like is Le Sage: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Le_Sage%27s_theory_of_gravitation I like it because it gives a mechanical explanation to gravity, Also it explains why clocks move slower near a heavy object (say planet) as there more Le Sage particles are intercepted, matter gets less compressed, pendulum gets longer, clocks slow down. It also explains the mysterious heating of some heavenly bodies, and it puts an end the the black-hole infinities babble as there is a point where all Le Sage particles are intercepted. There are NO infinities in nature!!
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-10-18 12:20 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <11b2a2h$11pis$15@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #94116 |
On 18/10/2026 09:53, Jan Panteltje wrote: > Put enough springs like that together and if one goes and hits a few other ones > like it then you get a chain reaction, all clamps break, all springs jump. > > But 'fusion' they try, is nothing but pushing the springs together without even > using clamps.. > Costs all of energy to keep those together and no more energy will ever come > out than you put in. Not really. Push enough together hard enough and lots of pieces fly out. Like trying to assemble a motorbike gearbox with C clips In the UK we call these 'pingfuckits' Fusion is just trying to hold it together and not let the pingfuckits escape... -- It’s easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled. Mark Twain
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| From | Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-10-18 13:22 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <11b2h78$15m2c$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #94151 |
>The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>wrote: >>On 18/10/2026 09:53, Jan Panteltje wrote: >> Put enough springs like that together and if one goes and hits a few other ones >> like it then you get a chain reaction, all clamps break, all springs jump. >> >> But 'fusion' they try, is nothing but pushing the springs together without even >> using clamps.. >> Costs all of energy to keep those together and no more energy will ever come >> out than you put in. > >Not really. Push enough together hard enough and lots of pieces fly out. >Like trying to assemble a motorbike gearbox with C clips > >In the UK we call these 'pingfuckits' Yes, motorbikes, I had 2, one Matchless bought from the army surplus, took it apart.. I stopped with motorbikes after some near accident Then later got a Ford Mustang V8 Now THAT was a nice car! But I do not expect crushing a gearbox to cause more energy then you put into it crushing it.
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| From | Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-10-19 02:19 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <11b3unm$1lgro$8@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #94116 |
On Sun, 18 Oct 2026 08:53:53 GMT, Jan Panteltje wrote: > But 'fusion' they try, is nothing but pushing the springs together > without even using clamps.. > Costs all of energy to keep those together and no more energy will > ever come out than you put in. What keeps the stars burning?
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| From | Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-10-19 08:20 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <11b4jso$1skfv$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #94270 |
>Lawrence =?iso-8859-13?q?D=FFOliveiro?= <ldo@nz.invalid>wrote: >>On Sun, 18 Oct 2026 08:53:53 GMT, Jan Panteltje wrote: > >> But 'fusion' they try, is nothing but pushing the springs together >> without even using clamps.. >> Costs all of energy to keep those together and no more energy will >> ever come out than you put in. > >What keeps the stars burning? Russian diesel? LOL Read the Le Sage article: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Le_Sage%27s_theory_of_gravitation Scroll down to: Recent activity quote: The re-examination of Le Sage's theory in the 19th century identified several closely interconnected problems with the theory. These relate to excessive heating, frictional drag, shielding, and gravitational aberration. -----------------^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Feynman could not handle it, he thinks of LeSage particles as stones I think EM radiation can just be a 'state' of (very complex) Le Sage particles. Then gravity moves at the speed of light. Making EM radiation is just 'magnetizing LS particles A mechanism I do not wan the no-bell price too much politics... But a MECHANISM is a must, mamamatical babble gets you nowhere. NeinStone was a fraud, he stole his relatitfrites like he stole Bose's work and put his own name on it Bose Einstein condensate. And the world (most of it) keeps parroting that fraud 'Space is curved' what was curved was his brain. He failed to unite gravity and EM radiation I just did unite that here . Is it correct? I dunno. Experiments we need. NeinStein never did an experiment in his life, just babble. Polli Ticks put him on a stand. But sure, go on feeding billions of taxpayer money into ITER Your money.
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| From | Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> |
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| Date | 2026-10-16 19:36 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <11aucd4$3o8ih$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #93893 |
Jan Panteltje wrote this screed in ALL-CAPS (fixed): >>Leroy H <lh@somewhere.net>wrote: >>>On Fri, 16 Oct 2026 11:44:54 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom wrote: >> >>> For C++, Boost.Decimal. >> >>Some people don't use C++. I would hope that most would not. >> >>It is recommended, and even required in some countries, that all >>financial software be written using decimal FP. >> >>But once libdfp drops out then GNU/Linux C programmers will be >>stuck. > > Well C++ is a crime against humanity > 'operator overloading...' crap bloated crap. :-D It's my favorite language, by far. -- "MacDonald has the gift on compressing the largest amount of words into the smallest amount of thoughts." -- Winston Churchill
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| From | Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> |
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| Date | 2026-10-16 19:35 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <11aucb9$3o8ih$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #93887 |
Leroy H wrote this screed in ALL-CAPS (fixed): > On Fri, 16 Oct 2026 11:44:54 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom wrote: > >> For C++, Boost.Decimal. > > Some people don't use C++. I would hope that most would not. :-D It is a fine language, capable of the basic operations supported by C and a vast compendium of object-oriented and template features, and a standard library rivaling Python. > It is recommended, and even required in some countries, that all > financial software be written using decimal FP. > > But once libdfp drops out then GNU/Linux C programmers will be > stuck. > >> By the way, are you AI? > > Human beings have always been AI in that they can only parrot > news reports and their old school textbooks. This has been true > since pre-historic times. They had news reports and textbooks in prehistory? > Occasionally, however, some misaligned freak will rise above > it all and then we have a burst of progress. -- WARNING: Overconsumption of this product can lead to anal leakage.
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-10-17 09:18 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <11avb0l$59n$8@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #93946 |
On 17/10/2026 00:35, Chris Ahlstrom wrote: > Leroy H wrote this screed in ALL-CAPS (fixed): >> Human beings have always been AI in that they can only parrot >> news reports and their old school textbooks. This has been true >> since pre-historic times. > > They had news reports and textbooks in prehistory? > Yes. And they were carried by bards As songs and sagas and myths The Bible was a written down record of some of them Lights in the sky, great floods, cities gone in a flash. Tsunamis causing the sea to retreat. Evidence exists for all of these. Just not the god Yahweh. HE stared out as a minor war god. Somewhere along the line monotheism looked to be advisable, and he got the job The sling is well known to be a devastating range weapon when faced with an opponent whose armour is not 100%, For example. A fact worth passing along in a neat little morality tale -- All political activity makes complete sense once the proposition that all government is basically a self-legalising protection racket, is fully understood.
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| From | Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> |
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| Date | 2026-10-17 06:32 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <11avirt$39m8$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #93977 |
The Natural Philosopher wrote this screed in ALL-CAPS (fixed): > On 17/10/2026 00:35, Chris Ahlstrom wrote: >> Leroy H wrote this screed in ALL-CAPS (fixed): > >>> Human beings have always been AI in that they can only parrot >>> news reports and their old school textbooks. This has been true >>> since pre-historic times. >> >> They had news reports and textbooks in prehistory? >> > Yes. And they were carried by bards I thought it was promulgated by voice and memory.... > As songs and sagas and myths > > The Bible was a written down record of some of them That's not prehistory, is it? > Lights in the sky, great floods, cities gone in a flash. Tsunamis > causing the sea to retreat. Evidence exists for all of these. Just not > the god Yahweh. HE stared out as a minor war god. Somewhere along the > line monotheism looked to be advisable, and he got the job > > The sling is well known to be a devastating range weapon when faced with > an opponent whose armour is not 100%, For example. A fact worth passing > along in a neat little morality tale I remember being amazed at how far a slingshot could sling a marble. (I would also shoot a BB straight up to see how close to me I could get it to land. A couple of times me and a friend had BB duels.) -- Beauty seldom recommends one woman to another.
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-10-17 11:55 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <11avk7g$3m0b$8@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #93994 |
On 17/10/2026 11:32, Chris Ahlstrom wrote: > The Natural Philosopher wrote this screed in ALL-CAPS (fixed): > >> On 17/10/2026 00:35, Chris Ahlstrom wrote: >>> Leroy H wrote this screed in ALL-CAPS (fixed): >> >>>> Human beings have always been AI in that they can only parrot >>>> news reports and their old school textbooks. This has been true >>>> since pre-historic times. >>> >>> They had news reports and textbooks in prehistory? >>> >> Yes. And they were carried by bards > > I thought it was promulgated by voice and memory.... > That's what bards were. Voices with memory. and mobility >> As songs and sagas and myths >> >> The Bible was a written down record of some of them > > That's not prehistory, is it? > Depends on your definition, But the oral tradition - stories round the fire at night - probably goes back to the dawn of man >> Lights in the sky, great floods, cities gone in a flash. Tsunamis >> causing the sea to retreat. Evidence exists for all of these. Just not >> the god Yahweh. HE stared out as a minor war god. Somewhere along the >> line monotheism looked to be advisable, and he got the job >> >> The sling is well known to be a devastating range weapon when faced with >> an opponent whose armour is not 100%, For example. A fact worth passing >> along in a neat little morality tale > > I remember being amazed at how far a slingshot could sling a > marble. > We reinvented the woomera. To sling stones at the bull's testicles Horrid little kids we were really. But we did know what bullshit was allright > (I would also shoot a BB straight up to see how close to me I > could get it to land. A couple of times me and a friend had > BB duels.) > Hmmm -- “Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it everywhere, diagnosing it incorrectly and applying the wrong remedies.” ― Groucho Marx
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| From | Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> |
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| Date | 2026-10-17 12:12 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <6ad36634$0$11450$426a74cc@news.free.fr> |
| In reply to | #93994 |
Le 17-10-2026, Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> a écrit : > The Natural Philosopher wrote this screed in ALL-CAPS (fixed): > >> On 17/10/2026 00:35, Chris Ahlstrom wrote: >>> Leroy H wrote this screed in ALL-CAPS (fixed): >> >>>> Human beings have always been AI in that they can only parrot >>>> news reports and their old school textbooks. This has been true >>>> since pre-historic times. >>> >>> They had news reports and textbooks in prehistory? >>> >> Yes. No. >> And they were carried by bards Bards carried stories. It was important and it reminds people of what was done long time ago. It wasn't news report. But I'm not surprised you can't differentiate between what happened yesterday and what people did a long time ago. It wasn't textbooks. But I'm not surprised you can't differentiate between the things you need to learn to work everyday and the things you need to remember from past action which can explain why things are what they are today. > I thought it was promulgated by voice and memory.... Ultimately, it was promulgated by people. But what your mother was teaching you is different to what professors were teaching you, which is different to what reporters are telling you. I know you can tell the difference but you are answering a message written by someone who can't. >> As songs and sagas and myths >> >> The Bible was a written down record of some of them > > That's not prehistory, is it? Of course it's not. It's the definition of history. But you are answering The Natural Philosopher who can only close his eyes to what goes beyond his preconceived expectations. -- Si vous avez du temps à perdre : https://scarpet42.gitlab.io
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-10-17 13:43 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <11avqgo$6fk8$3@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #94016 |
On 17/10/2026 13:12, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote: > But you are > answering The Natural Philosopher who can only close his eyes to what > goes beyond his preconceived expectations. Ah. Another one who spends his time staring into a mirror and thinking he is seeing other people -- WOKE is an acronym... Without Originality, Knowledge or Education.
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2026-10-17 20:37 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <nji4ktFei39U17@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #93994 |
On Sat, 17 Oct 2026 06:32:28 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom wrote: > (I would also shoot a BB straight up to see how close to me I could get > it to land. A couple of times me and a friend had BB duels.) Jihadis like to do that but they're using 7.62x39.
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| From | Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> |
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| Date | 2026-10-17 09:07 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <6ad33abe$0$11436$426a74cc@news.free.fr> |
| In reply to | #93887 |
Le 16-10-2026, Leroy H <lh@somewhere.net> a écrit : > On Fri, 16 Oct 2026 11:44:54 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom wrote: > >> >> For C++, Boost.Decimal. >> > > Some people don't use C++. They are wise. > I would hope that most would not. You are not. >> By the way, are you AI? > > Human beings have always been AI in that they can only parrot > news reports and their old school textbooks. This has been true > since pre-historic times. News report and textbook in pre-historic times is an hallucination an AI wouldn't make. In pre-historic times, people need to truly understand what they learned: it was the difference between life and death. > Occasionally, however, some misaligned freak will rise above > it all and then we have a burst of progress. The most impressive with this sentence is: you truly believe you are that guy. When your greatest accomplishment is to have being able to avoid winning a Darwin award to this day (which is impressive by itself but doesn't help humanity to progress). -- Si vous avez du temps à perdre : https://scarpet42.gitlab.io
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| From | Leroy H <lh@somewhere.net> |
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| Date | 2026-10-17 13:30 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <18df544b7be662ec$1686$25751$802601b3@news.usenetexpress.com> |
| In reply to | #93988 |
On 17 Oct 2026 09:07:10 GMT, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote: >> >> Human beings have always been AI in that they can only parrot >> news reports and their old school textbooks. This has been true >> since pre-historic times. > > News report and textbook in pre-historic times is an hallucination an AI > wouldn't make. In pre-historic times, people need to truly understand > what they learned: it was the difference between life and death. > In pre-historic times, the equivalent of "news reports and textbooks" were the oral teachings and stories that were passed between generations. My original point remains valid. Then as now, very few human beings discover reality through their own force of will. Most will simply regurgitate the knowledge that is given to them and that is essentially AI. >> >> Occasionally, however, some misaligned freak will rise above >> it all and then we have a burst of progress. > > The most impressive with this sentence is: you truly believe you are > that guy. When your greatest accomplishment is to have being able to > avoid winning a Darwin award to this day > I have accomplished more in the last 25 hours than you will accomplish in half a lifetime.
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| From | Tapiro Ubriaco <interwebs.dude@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2026-10-19 13:09 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <11b54q5$1tnv4$12@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #94025 |
On Sat, 17 Oct 2026 13:30:59 +0000, Leroy H wrote: > I have accomplished more in the last 25 hours than you will accomplish > in half a lifetime. lmao, *PLONK*.
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2026-10-17 20:08 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <nji2ucFei39U14@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #93988 |
On 17 Oct 2026 09:07:10 GMT, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote: > News report and textbook in pre-historic times is an hallucination an AI > wouldn't make. In pre-historic times, people need to truly understand > what they learned: it was the difference between life and death. Or you could say in prehistoric times people hallucinated various gods and demons to explain events. As Nietzsche pointed out humans are artists, painting their version of what they perceive.
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-10-18 12:04 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <11b2945$11pis$9@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #94072 |
On 17/10/2026 21:08, rbowman wrote: > On 17 Oct 2026 09:07:10 GMT, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote: > >> News report and textbook in pre-historic times is an hallucination an AI >> wouldn't make. In pre-historic times, people need to truly understand >> what they learned: it was the difference between life and death. > > Or you could say in prehistoric times people hallucinated various gods and > demons to explain events. As Nietzsche pointed out humans are artists, > painting their version of what they perceive. And that process still goes on today. We have mysterious gods called 'gravity' or 'electricity' The only difference is that we found that SOME of them seem to obey 'rules'. And learning those rules is more useful than praying to them. Since they don't appear to actually be 'alive' let alone 'conscious' But the process hasn't changed in a million years. It is the proposition that behind this world there exists a more fundamental one, peopled with strange forces, that cause this one to be what it is. The entities have changed, but not the proposition. "The mere existence of creationists refutes the proposition that humans are the result of 'intelligent' design" -- All political activity makes complete sense once the proposition that all government is basically a self-legalising protection racket, is fully understood.
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| From | Nick Charles <none@none.none> |
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| Date | 2026-10-16 23:19 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <aLicnW7ZUIGXLE_3nZ2dnZfqn_ednZ2d@supernews.com> |
| In reply to | #93883 |
On Oct 16, 2026 at 11:44:54 AM EDT, "Chris Ahlstrom" <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote: > Leroy H wrote this screed in ALL-CAPS (fixed): > >> It is amazing how knowledge of basic CS is absent in most >> programmers, both professional and amateur alike. While >> "vibe coding" is all the rage, a silent disaster is also >> creeping. >> >> What GNU/Linux requires urgently is a Decimal Floating >> Point library that implements IEEE754-2008, but mention this >> to most programmers and one will receive only blank stares >> and gaping mouths. >> >> The only GNU/Linux project for IEEE754-2008 is closing >> its doors: >> >> <https://github.com/libdfp/libdfp/pull/238> > > For C++, Boost.Decimal. > > The Free42 calculator provides either binary or a decimal > implementation. > > By the way, are you AI? Yes he is. He is Actually Ignorant.
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