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| From | Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> |
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| Newsgroups | comp.os.linux.misc, comp.os.linux.advocacy |
| Subject | Re: Back To CS Basics. Fuck AI |
| Date | 2026-10-18 13:32 +0000 |
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>c186282 <c186282@nnada.net>wrote: >>On 10/18/26 04:53, Jan Panteltje wrote: >>> c186282 <c186282@nnada.net>wrote: >>>> On 10/17/26 03:20, Jan Panteltje wrote: >>>>> Lawrence =?iso-8859-13?q?D=FFOliveiro?= <ldo@nz.invalid>wrote: >>>>>> On Fri, 16 Oct 2026 17:10:18 GMT, Jan Panteltje wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Well C++ is a crime against humanity >>>>>> 'operator overloading...' crap bloated crap. >>>>> >>>>> Operator overloading is a very handy feature. Yes, C++ is overly >>>>> complicated. Java left out that feature of C++, and it, too, still >>>>> manages to be excessively complicated. >>>>> >>>>> Python, on the other hand, includes operator overloading, yet is still >>>>> only a small fraction of the complexity of either Java or C++. Such a >>>>> feature is useful, for example, in letting you express operations on >>>>> mathematical objects (like vectors and matrices) using something close >>>>> to the original mathematical notation. >>>> >>>> OK >>>> I never got much into Python >>> >>> DO check it out. It can now do basically EVERYTHING >>> and is faster than it used to be. P4 is promised to >>> be even faster and more efficient without changing >>> the syntax. >>> >>> I did not use Python2 because I heard that P3 was coming ... >>> why learn an obsolete dialect ? Took 'em a little while >>> to port everything over to the new version, but it got >>> done and then went over and above. >>> >>> CAN be 'compiled' in a few ways. A couple options >>> translate to 'C' and then compile that. IS much >>> faster, though not quite as fast as writing a >>> native 'C' pgm. However the EASE of writing and >>> great string-slice functions (stolen from FORTRAN) >>> make Python really nice. Oh, 95% of the time you >>> don't NEED top speed for applications. That's old >>> thinking - EASE/comprehensibility can be far >>> more important. >>> >>> Oh, the DOCUMENTATION/How-To stuff for Python >>> is everywhere and detailed. A zillion solutions >>> for YOUR particular problem. >>> >>> Since forever I wrote in 'C' or Pascal. I even >>> did stuff in "B". However I rarely use 'C' >>> anymore. Might still rec writing 'servers' in 'C' ... >>> esp if high-volume ... but that sentiment is >>> half 'tradition'. >>> >>> Anyway, learn before 'AI' tries to steal it >>> all away. CHAT can find/write low/medium >>> complexity Python code ... but sometimes >>> it seems more complex/verbose/obscure than >>> a human would write it. Mostly it just >>> steals human-writ examples it finds. >>> >>> DID ask CHAT to write me a basic b-tree >>> database pgm in FORTRAN the other day. >>> Kinda/sorta did so ... but didn't include >>> any load/save code (though DID warn about >>> that prob). Next - same thing, but in >>> Modula2 - we'll see what its limits are :-) >>> >>> Pref M3 ... but almost no Linux/anything >>> compilers for that - esp that actually >>> install correctly. Some ancient DOS stuff. >>> Do have a paper manual for "Turbo Modula-2" >>> but it's all 8/16 bit and won't run on a lot >>> of chips these days. Would have to use >>> DOSBox or something - inefficient. >>> >>>> Never needed it for the things I do. >>>> Also it seems to be changing all the time? >>> >>> Ummm ... not really. The only "big" - ok >>> not SO big - change was P2 to P3. Most >>> P2 programs can be tweaked for P3 pretty >>> quick. Think there's even a converter app. >>> >>> Now if by "changing" you mean new functions, >>> yep, people keep writing them for obvious >>> reasons. The good bit is it means there are >>> several paths to whatever you're trying to >>> do - pick the best for your need. >>> >>> I did a bunch of video security cam apps. >>> Sometimes "OpenCV2" will do it all, sometimes >>> "Pillow" lib is just fine. Can even combine >>> in some cases. >>> >>>> Most code I write is in C or in asm for Microchips. >>>> asm is extremely powerful >>> >>> Well aware. When CP/M and even DOS were around >>> had to write ASM bits, or full apps, because >>> there just wasn't anything better. PICs and >>> similar microcontrollers - ASM is still the >>> best way to the finer chip tricks. >>> >>>> understand the hardware!!! >>> >>> The weaker the hardware the more you have to >>> understand it. Most modern big chips, so much >>> overkill that you really don't need to know >>> every little nuance. Sorry, 1% better performance >>> isn't worth learning 99% more tiny-tweak shit >>> that'll probably be obsolete in the very next >>> point-revision of the CPU. >>> >>>> https://panteltje.nl/panteltje/newsflex/download.html >>>> https://panteltje.nl/panteltje/quadcopter/index.html >>>> https://panteltje.nl/panteltje/pic/index.html >>>> These days giggle bytes seem to be needed to just say: 'Hello world'. >>>> Too many layers of crap. >>>> >>>> But I come from a hardware background, in the sixties there were no 'computers' >>>> yet they did a manned Moon landing and return. >>> >>> Some of that shit was just bizarre ! >>> >>> Loved hand-knitted "rope memory", what >>> the LEM computer used :-) >>> >>>> Now they have nothing to show but driving around the block (earth orbit) with >>>> all that computing power. >>> >>> All the computing power in the Apollo ... yer >>> base iWatch has a good 1000x that, maybe 10000x. >>> BUT, they had to make do with what they had ... >>> and most of that was govt-specced in '64. At >>> least Apollo wasn't all vacuum tubes :-) >>> >>> Now space probes - I really admire the people >>> who design the hardware/software. Insane levels >>> of redundancy/work-arounds, almost a black art. >>> It's why the Voyagers are still working out >>> beyond the edge of our solar system all this >>> time later. Kinda hoping aliens will find one >>> and upgrade/repair :-) >> >> Yes and the new telescopes >> https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2026/10/261016070630.htm >> NASA’s Roman Space Telescope exceeds expectations by nearly 30% >> >> I think, our current understanding of 'the Universe' and 'big bang' is at some >> point completely wrong, > > Likely. > >> as is our 'understanding' of fusion (why ITER and other experiments like it >> will never work). > > Current approaches ... won't work worth damn. > Gotta find some 'quantum tricks'. SOME way > to, even for a sub-nanosecond, to screw with > the physics. > >> I look at normal radioactivity as you having a lot of springs each compressed >> and hold together by a little metal clamp. >> Every now and then a clamp breaks an the spring jumps, 'radioactivity' >> 'radiation'. >> Put enough springs like that together and if one goes and hits a few other ones >> like it then you get a chain reaction, all clamps break, all springs jump. >> >> But 'fusion' they try, is nothing but pushing the springs together without even >> using clamps.. >> Costs all of energy to keep those together and no more energy will ever come >> out than you put in. >> The springs with clamps are just parts of the expanding universe that had not >> expanded yet. >> >> Dark matter, so much bullshit, so many einStone parrots, >> so many mamaticians doing a divide by zero and then use 'renormalisation' >> all parrots, too much senseless math, NO understanding. >> It is a bit like Ohm's law, but then the radio tube was invented, a current in >> a vacuum ! Ohms law broken? >> Electrons moving turned out to be what electric current was! >> You need a _mechanism_ to understand the universe, else the babble about >> infinities will go on and no end and the understanding will remain zero. >> CERN did recently find signs that space is filled with some fluid... >> From: >> https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2026/10/261004002556.htm >> >> Physicists just saw quarks make waves in the Big Bang’s primordial soup >> Scientists have watched speeding quarks create ripples in primordial matter, >> revealing just how liquid-like the early universe really was. >> Date: >> October 6, 2026 >> Source: >> Massachusetts Institute of Technology >> Summary: >> Physicists at CERN’s Large Hadron Collider have captured the clearest evidence >> yet that quark-gluon plasma, the scorching-hot matter that filled the newborn >> universe, behaves like a true liquid. >> By tracking individual quarks as they blasted through the plasma, researchers >> saw them leave behind ripples, splashes, and swirling wakes much like a duck >> moving through water. >> The finding suggests this primordial “soup” is so dense that it can slow >> speeding quarks and respond collectively as a fluid. > > Still think "dark matter" is an hallucination. > > "Invisible Stuff" ??? Luminiferous Aether ??? > > Something ELSE going on. One theory I like is Le Sage: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Le_Sage%27s_theory_of_gravitation I like it because it gives a mechanical explanation to gravity, Also it explains why clocks move slower near a heavy object (say planet) as there more Le Sage particles are intercepted, matter gets less compressed, pendulum gets longer, clocks slow down. It also explains the mysterious heating of some heavenly bodies, and it puts an end the the black-hole infinities babble as there is a point where all Le Sage particles are intercepted. There are NO infinities in nature!!
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