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Back To CS Basics. Fuck AI

Started byLeroy H <lh@somewhere.net>
First post2026-10-16 03:26 +0000
Last post2026-10-18 10:59 +0000
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#93994

FromChris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us>
Date2026-10-17 06:32 -0400
Message-ID<11avirt$39m8$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#93977
The Natural Philosopher wrote this screed in ALL-CAPS (fixed):

> On 17/10/2026 00:35, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>> Leroy H wrote this screed in ALL-CAPS (fixed):
>
>>> Human beings have always been AI in that they can only parrot
>>> news reports and their old school textbooks.  This has been true
>>> since pre-historic times.
>> 
>> They had news reports and textbooks in prehistory?
>> 
> Yes. And they were carried by bards

I thought it was promulgated by voice and memory....

> As songs and sagas and myths
>
> The Bible was a written down record of some of them

That's not prehistory, is it?

> Lights in the sky, great floods, cities gone in a flash. Tsunamis 
> causing the sea to retreat.  Evidence exists for all of these. Just not 
> the god Yahweh. HE stared out as a minor war god. Somewhere along the 
> line monotheism looked to be advisable, and he got the job
>
> The sling is well known to be a devastating range weapon when faced with 
> an opponent whose armour is not 100%, For example. A fact worth passing 
> along in a neat little morality tale

I remember being amazed at how far a slingshot could sling a
marble.

(I would also shoot a BB straight up to see how close to me I
could get it to land. A couple of times me and a friend had
BB duels.)

-- 
Beauty seldom recommends one woman to another.

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#94001

FromThe Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Date2026-10-17 11:55 +0100
Message-ID<11avk7g$3m0b$8@dont-email.me>
In reply to#93994
On 17/10/2026 11:32, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
> The Natural Philosopher wrote this screed in ALL-CAPS (fixed):
> 
>> On 17/10/2026 00:35, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>>> Leroy H wrote this screed in ALL-CAPS (fixed):
>>
>>>> Human beings have always been AI in that they can only parrot
>>>> news reports and their old school textbooks.  This has been true
>>>> since pre-historic times.
>>>
>>> They had news reports and textbooks in prehistory?
>>>
>> Yes. And they were carried by bards
> 
> I thought it was promulgated by voice and memory....
> 

That's what bards were. Voices with memory. and mobility

>> As songs and sagas and myths
>>
>> The Bible was a written down record of some of them
> 
> That's not prehistory, is it?
> 
Depends on your definition, But the oral tradition - stories round the 
fire at night - probably goes back to the dawn of man


>> Lights in the sky, great floods, cities gone in a flash. Tsunamis
>> causing the sea to retreat.  Evidence exists for all of these. Just not
>> the god Yahweh. HE stared out as a minor war god. Somewhere along the
>> line monotheism looked to be advisable, and he got the job
>>
>> The sling is well known to be a devastating range weapon when faced with
>> an opponent whose armour is not 100%, For example. A fact worth passing
>> along in a neat little morality tale
> 
> I remember being amazed at how far a slingshot could sling a
> marble.
> 
We reinvented the woomera. To sling stones at the bull's testicles

Horrid little kids we were really. But we did know what bullshit was 
allright


> (I would also shoot a BB straight up to see how close to me I
> could get it to land. A couple of times me and a friend had
> BB duels.)
> 
Hmmm

-- 
“Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it everywhere, 
diagnosing it incorrectly and applying the wrong remedies.”
― Groucho Marx

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#94016

FromStéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr>
Date2026-10-17 12:12 +0000
Message-ID<6ad36634$0$11450$426a74cc@news.free.fr>
In reply to#93994
Le 17-10-2026, Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> a écrit :
> The Natural Philosopher wrote this screed in ALL-CAPS (fixed):
>
>> On 17/10/2026 00:35, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>>> Leroy H wrote this screed in ALL-CAPS (fixed):
>>
>>>> Human beings have always been AI in that they can only parrot
>>>> news reports and their old school textbooks.  This has been true
>>>> since pre-historic times.
>>> 
>>> They had news reports and textbooks in prehistory?
>>> 
>> Yes. 

No.

>> And they were carried by bards

Bards carried stories. It was important and it reminds people of what
was done long time ago. It wasn't news report. But I'm not surprised you
can't differentiate between what happened yesterday and what people did
a long time ago. It wasn't textbooks. But I'm not surprised you can't
differentiate between the things you need to learn to work everyday and
the things you need to remember from past action which can explain why
things are what they are today.

> I thought it was promulgated by voice and memory....

Ultimately, it was promulgated by people. But what your mother was
teaching you is different to what professors were teaching you, which is
different to what reporters are telling you. I know you can tell the
difference but you are answering a message written by someone who can't.

>> As songs and sagas and myths
>>
>> The Bible was a written down record of some of them
>
> That's not prehistory, is it?

Of course it's not. It's the definition of history. But you are
answering The Natural Philosopher who can only close his eyes to what
goes beyond his preconceived expectations.

-- 
Si vous avez du temps à perdre :
https://scarpet42.gitlab.io

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#94019

FromThe Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Date2026-10-17 13:43 +0100
Message-ID<11avqgo$6fk8$3@dont-email.me>
In reply to#94016
On 17/10/2026 13:12, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:
> But you are
> answering The Natural Philosopher who can only close his eyes to what
> goes beyond his preconceived expectations.

Ah. Another one who spends his time staring into a mirror and thinking 
he is seeing other people



-- 
WOKE is an acronym... Without Originality, Knowledge or Education.

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#94083

Fromrbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Date2026-10-17 20:37 +0000
Message-ID<nji4ktFei39U17@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#93994
On Sat, 17 Oct 2026 06:32:28 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:

> (I would also shoot a BB straight up to see how close to me I could get
> it to land. A couple of times me and a friend had BB duels.)

Jihadis like to do that but they're using 7.62x39.

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#93988

FromStéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr>
Date2026-10-17 09:07 +0000
Message-ID<6ad33abe$0$11436$426a74cc@news.free.fr>
In reply to#93887
Le 16-10-2026, Leroy H <lh@somewhere.net> a écrit :
> On Fri, 16 Oct 2026 11:44:54 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>
>> 
>> For C++, Boost.Decimal.
>> 
>
> Some people don't use C++.

They are wise.

> I would hope that most would not.

You are not.

>> By the way, are you AI?
>
> Human beings have always been AI in that they can only parrot
> news reports and their old school textbooks.  This has been true
> since pre-historic times.

News report and textbook in pre-historic times is an hallucination an AI
wouldn't make. In pre-historic times, people need to truly understand
what they learned: it was the difference between life and death.

> Occasionally, however, some misaligned freak will rise above
> it all and then we have a burst of progress.

The most impressive with this sentence is: you truly believe you are
that guy. When your greatest accomplishment is to have being able to
avoid winning a Darwin award to this day (which is impressive by itself
but doesn't help humanity to progress).

-- 
Si vous avez du temps à perdre :
https://scarpet42.gitlab.io

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#94025

FromLeroy H <lh@somewhere.net>
Date2026-10-17 13:30 +0000
Message-ID<18df544b7be662ec$1686$25751$802601b3@news.usenetexpress.com>
In reply to#93988
On 17 Oct 2026 09:07:10 GMT, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:

>>
>> Human beings have always been AI in that they can only parrot
>> news reports and their old school textbooks.  This has been true
>> since pre-historic times.
> 
> News report and textbook in pre-historic times is an hallucination an AI
> wouldn't make. In pre-historic times, people need to truly understand
> what they learned: it was the difference between life and death.
> 

In pre-historic times, the equivalent of "news reports and textbooks"
were the oral teachings and stories that were passed between generations.

My original point remains valid.  Then as now, very few human beings discover
reality through their own force of will.  Most will simply regurgitate the
knowledge that is given to them and that is essentially AI.


>>
>> Occasionally, however, some misaligned freak will rise above
>> it all and then we have a burst of progress.
> 
> The most impressive with this sentence is: you truly believe you are
> that guy. When your greatest accomplishment is to have being able to
> avoid winning a Darwin award to this day
>

I have accomplished more in the last 25 hours than you will accomplish
in half a lifetime.

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#94332

FromTapiro Ubriaco <interwebs.dude@gmail.com>
Date2026-10-19 13:09 +0000
Message-ID<11b54q5$1tnv4$12@dont-email.me>
In reply to#94025
On Sat, 17 Oct 2026 13:30:59 +0000, Leroy H wrote:

> I have accomplished more in the last 25 hours than you will accomplish
> in half a lifetime.

lmao, *PLONK*.

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#94072

Fromrbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Date2026-10-17 20:08 +0000
Message-ID<nji2ucFei39U14@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#93988
On 17 Oct 2026 09:07:10 GMT, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:

> News report and textbook in pre-historic times is an hallucination an AI
> wouldn't make. In pre-historic times, people need to truly understand
> what they learned: it was the difference between life and death.

Or you could say in prehistoric times people hallucinated various gods and 
demons to explain events. As Nietzsche pointed out humans are artists, 
painting their version of what they perceive.

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#94145

FromThe Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Date2026-10-18 12:04 +0100
Message-ID<11b2945$11pis$9@dont-email.me>
In reply to#94072
On 17/10/2026 21:08, rbowman wrote:
> On 17 Oct 2026 09:07:10 GMT, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:
> 
>> News report and textbook in pre-historic times is an hallucination an AI
>> wouldn't make. In pre-historic times, people need to truly understand
>> what they learned: it was the difference between life and death.
> 
> Or you could say in prehistoric times people hallucinated various gods and
> demons to explain events. As Nietzsche pointed out humans are artists,
> painting their version of what they perceive.

And that process still goes on today.
We have mysterious gods called 'gravity' or 'electricity' The only 
difference is that we found that SOME of them seem to obey 'rules'. And 
learning those rules is more useful than praying to them. Since they 
don't appear to actually be 'alive' let alone 'conscious'

But the process hasn't changed in a million years. It is the proposition 
that behind this world there exists a more fundamental one, peopled with 
strange forces, that cause this one to be what it is. The entities have 
changed, but not the proposition.

"The mere existence of creationists refutes the proposition that humans 
are the result of 'intelligent' design"



-- 
All political activity makes complete sense once the proposition that 
all government is basically a self-legalising protection racket, is 
fully understood.

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#93945

FromNick Charles <none@none.none>
Date2026-10-16 23:19 +0000
Message-ID<aLicnW7ZUIGXLE_3nZ2dnZfqn_ednZ2d@supernews.com>
In reply to#93883
On Oct 16, 2026 at 11:44:54 AM EDT, "Chris Ahlstrom" <OFeem1987@teleworm.us>
wrote:

> Leroy H wrote this screed in ALL-CAPS (fixed):
> 
>> It is amazing how knowledge of basic CS is absent in most
>> programmers, both professional and amateur alike.  While
>> "vibe coding" is all the rage, a silent disaster is also
>> creeping.
>> 
>> What GNU/Linux requires urgently is a Decimal Floating
>> Point library that implements IEEE754-2008, but mention this
>> to most programmers and one will receive only blank stares
>> and gaping mouths.
>> 
>> The only GNU/Linux project for IEEE754-2008 is closing
>> its doors:
>> 
>> <https://github.com/libdfp/libdfp/pull/238>
> 
> For C++, Boost.Decimal.
> 
> The Free42 calculator provides either binary or a decimal
> implementation.
> 
> By the way, are you AI?

Yes he is.   He is Actually Ignorant.

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#93957

FromLawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid>
Date2026-10-17 02:29 +0000
Message-ID<11aumhe$3r5cq$3@dont-email.me>
In reply to#93945
On Fri, 16 Oct 2026 23:19:38 +0000, Nick Charles wrote:

> Yes he is. He is Actually Ignorant.

Still think Apple’s phone and tablet products are running “Unix”, are
you?

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#93972

Fromc186282 <c186282@nnada.net>
Date2026-10-17 01:54 -0400
Message-ID<mMacnbEnUMoskE73nZ2dnZfqnPGdnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#93957
On 10/16/26 22:29, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
> On Fri, 16 Oct 2026 23:19:38 +0000, Nick Charles wrote:
> 
>> Yes he is. He is Actually Ignorant.
> 
> Still think Apple’s phone and tablet products are running “Unix”, are
> you?

   Technically, they are ... but it's so heavily
   modified you really can't call it "Unix" anymore.

   "SteveIX" ???  :-)

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#93987

FromStéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr>
Date2026-10-17 08:58 +0000
Message-ID<6ad338af$0$2492$426a34cc@news.free.fr>
In reply to#93883
Le 16-10-2026, Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> a écrit :
> Leroy H wrote this screed in ALL-CAPS (fixed):
> [.../SNIP/...]
>
> By the way, are you AI?

No, he's too limited for that. A modern AI would be far better in its
answers.

-- 
Si vous avez du temps à perdre :
https://scarpet42.gitlab.io

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#93991

FromThe Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Date2026-10-17 11:25 +0100
Message-ID<11aviej$3m0b$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#93987
On 17/10/2026 09:58, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:
> Le 16-10-2026, Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> a écrit :
>> Leroy H wrote this screed in ALL-CAPS (fixed):
>> [.../SNIP/...]
>>
>> By the way, are you AI?
> 
> No, he's too limited for that. A modern AI would be far better in its
> answers.
> 
Lol!

-- 
In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice.
In practice, there is.
-- Yogi Berra

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#94143

From"De ongekruisigde ds." <ongekruisigde-ds@invalid.invalid>
Date2026-10-18 10:59 +0000
Message-ID<11b28qb$12d6i$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#93883
On 2026-10-16, Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote:
> Leroy H wrote this screed in ALL-CAPS (fixed):
>
>> It is amazing how knowledge of basic CS is absent in most
>> programmers, both professional and amateur alike.  While
>> "vibe coding" is all the rage, a silent disaster is also
>> creeping.
>>
>> What GNU/Linux requires urgently is a Decimal Floating
>> Point library that implements IEEE754-2008, but mention this
>> to most programmers and one will receive only blank stares
>> and gaping mouths.
>>
>> The only GNU/Linux project for IEEE754-2008 is closing
>> its doors:
>>
>> <https://github.com/libdfp/libdfp/pull/238>
>
> For C++, Boost.Decimal.
>
> The Free42 calculator provides either binary or a decimal
> implementation.
>
> By the way, are you AI?

Who knows, but here's an AI report on the current status of
libdfp/libdfp:

Maintenance status: actively maintained (and recently revived)             

Consulting git history directly:     

- Timeline: 669 commits spanning 2009-07-24 (original author Ryan
S. Arnold, IBM) to 2026-09-11 (Paul Murphy). The project is alive
— the most recent activity is only days old.

- Very recent burst: 17 commits since June 2026, almost all by
Paul Murphy (Red Hat), tightly focused on strtodN correctness
— signed-NaN returns, locale parsing bugs, rounding of large
integer mantissas, underflow/tiny values, dead-code removal —
plus a matching expansion of the test suite. Several commits are
explicitly AI-assisted (test-strtod: Add more AI tests), so this
is a modern, tooling-assisted development effort, not legacy
code.

- Contributor base: the classic glibc decimal-fp team —
Adhemerval Zanella (178), Ryan S. Arnold (130, original author),
Paul E. Murphy (~104 across addresses), Stefan Liebler. All
are current glibc/IBM/Red Hat maintainers, which signals
upstream-grade stewardship.

- Branches: only master plus legacy release branches
(libdfp-1_0_8-branch, _9, _10). No new release branch has been
cut since 1.0.10, so development is trunk-focused; the current
release number (1.0.17) is ahead of the last branched tag.

Verdict: healthy and actively maintained. The core decimal-fp
library is mature (15+ years), but 2026 has seen a genuine
correctness/quality drive on the string-conversion paths
(strtod/ldexp), with heavy test coverage. Nothing suggests
abandonment — quite the opposite.


-- 
I am a disgrace to all possible and impossible universes and all
that is not a universe. -- Gemini AI

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