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Wow - Oracle Linux - 10+ Gigabyte ISO !

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  Wow - Oracle Linux - 10+ Gigabyte ISO ! c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-09-15 03:52 -0400
    Re: Wow - Oracle Linux - 10+ Gigabyte ISO ! Marco Moock <mm@dorfdsl.de> - 2026-09-15 10:54 +0200
      Re: Wow - Oracle Linux - 10+ Gigabyte ISO ! Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-09-15 23:30 +0000
    Re: Wow - Oracle Linux - 10+ Gigabyte ISO ! Woozy Song <suzyw0ng@outlook.com> - 2026-09-15 17:08 +0800
      Re: Wow - Oracle Linux - 10+ Gigabyte ISO ! The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-15 16:38 +0100
        Re: Wow - Oracle Linux - 10+ Gigabyte ISO ! rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-15 17:21 +0000
          Re: Wow - Oracle Linux - 10+ Gigabyte ISO ! "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-15 21:32 +0200
            Re: Wow - Oracle Linux - 10+ Gigabyte ISO ! The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-16 01:07 +0100
              Re: Wow - Oracle Linux - 10+ Gigabyte ISO ! rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-16 00:35 +0000
                Re: Wow - Oracle Linux - 10+ Gigabyte ISO ! "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-16 07:13 +0200
                  Re: Wow - Oracle Linux - 10+ Gigabyte ISO ! The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-16 11:38 +0100
                  Re: Wow - Oracle Linux - 10+ Gigabyte ISO ! c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-09-16 21:26 -0400
                    Re: Wow - Oracle Linux - 10+ Gigabyte ISO ! "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-17 08:17 +0200
                      Re: Wow - Oracle Linux - 10+ Gigabyte ISO ! rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-17 06:25 +0000
                        Re: Wow - Oracle Linux - 10+ Gigabyte ISO ! "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-17 08:38 +0200
                        Re: Wow - Oracle Linux - 10+ Gigabyte ISO ! c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-09-17 03:34 -0400
                      Re: Wow - Oracle Linux - 10+ Gigabyte ISO ! c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-09-17 02:41 -0400
                        Re: Wow - Oracle Linux - 10+ Gigabyte ISO ! "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-17 09:44 +0200
                          Re: Wow - Oracle Linux - 10+ Gigabyte ISO ! Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-09-17 17:44 +0000
                            Re: Wow - Oracle Linux - 10+ Gigabyte ISO ! "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-17 20:38 +0200
                            Re: Wow - Oracle Linux - 10+ Gigabyte ISO ! rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-17 19:39 +0000
                          Re: Wow - Oracle Linux - 10+ Gigabyte ISO ! rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-17 19:35 +0000
                            Ventoy for ISO management? (Re: Wow - Oracle Linux - 10+ Gigabyte ISO !) Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2026-09-26 09:23 -0700
                              Re: Ventoy for ISO management? (Re: Wow - Oracle Linux - 10+ Gigabyte ISO !) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-26 19:21 +0000
                              Re: Ventoy for ISO management? (Re: Wow - Oracle Linux - 10+ Gigabyte ISO !) jayjwa <jayjwa@atr2.ath.cx.invalid> - 2026-09-26 19:21 -0400
                                Re: Tips for dd ( was Re: Ventoy for ISO management?) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-09-27 03:00 +0000
                                  Re: Tips for dd ( was Re: Ventoy for ISO management?) Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com> - 2026-09-27 04:18 +0000
                                    Re: Tips for dd ( was Re: Ventoy for ISO management?) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-09-27 07:05 +0000
                                      Re: Tips for dd ( was Re: Ventoy for ISO management?) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-27 09:17 +0100
                                        Re: Tips for dd ( was Re: Ventoy for ISO management?) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-27 12:57 +0100
                                          Re: Tips for dd ( was Re: Ventoy for ISO management?) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-27 14:23 +0200
                                            Re: Tips for dd ( was Re: Ventoy for ISO management?) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-27 17:41 +0100
                                              Re: Tips for dd ( was Re: Ventoy for ISO management?) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-27 19:55 +0200
                                      Re: Tips for dd ( was Re: Ventoy for ISO management?) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-27 12:53 +0200
                                        Re: Tips for dd ( was Re: Ventoy for ISO management?) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-27 18:04 +0100
                                  Re: Tips for dd ( was Re: Ventoy for ISO management?) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-09-27 04:13 -0400
                                  Re: Tips for dd ( was Re: Ventoy for ISO management?) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-27 12:53 +0200
                                    Re: Tips for dd ( was Re: Ventoy for ISO management?) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-09-28 01:37 -0400
                                      Re: Tips for dd ( was Re: Ventoy for ISO management?) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-28 10:09 +0200
                                        Re: Tips for dd ( was Re: Ventoy for ISO management?) Philippe <p.naudin+nntp@free.fr> - 2026-09-28 12:10 +0200
                                          Re: Tips for dd ( was Re: Ventoy for ISO management?) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-09-28 23:03 +0000
                              Re: Ventoy for ISO management? (Re: Wow - Oracle Linux - 10+ Gigabyte ISO !) "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-09-27 18:56 +0200
                                Re: Ventoy for ISO management? (Re: Wow - Oracle Linux - 10+ Gigabyte ISO !) Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-09-27 18:17 +0100
                              Re: Ventoy for ISO management? (Re: Wow - Oracle Linux - 10+ Gigabyte ISO !) ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) - 2026-09-28 00:50 +0000
                        Re: Wow - Oracle Linux - 10+ Gigabyte ISO ! rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-17 19:28 +0000
                Re: Wow - Oracle Linux - 10+ Gigabyte ISO ! The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-16 11:37 +0100
                  Re: Wow - Oracle Linux - 10+ Gigabyte ISO ! rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-16 18:04 +0000
                ISO9660 images, vfat USB mass storage devices and El Torito (was: Re: Wow - Oracle Linux - 10+ Gigabyte ISO !) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-16 18:55 +0100
                  Re: ISO9660 images, vfat USB mass storage devices and El Torito c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-09-16 22:25 -0400
                    Re: ISO9660 images, vfat USB mass storage devices and El Torito "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-17 08:22 +0200
                      Re: ISO9660 images, vfat USB mass storage devices and El Torito c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-09-17 03:28 -0400
                        Re: ISO9660 images, vfat USB mass storage devices and El Torito "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-17 10:32 +0200
                          Re: ISO9660 images, vfat USB mass storage devices and El Torito rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-17 20:25 +0000
                          Re: ISO9660 images, vfat USB mass storage devices and El Torito c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-09-17 21:26 -0400
                            Re: ISO9660 images, vfat USB mass storage devices and El Torito "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-19 21:39 +0200
                              Re: ISO9660 images, vfat USB mass storage devices and El Torito rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-20 01:55 +0000
                                Re: ISO9660 images, vfat USB mass storage devices and El Torito "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-20 14:10 +0200
                                  Re: ISO9660 images, vfat USB mass storage devices and El Torito rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-20 17:35 +0000
                                    Re: ISO9660 images, vfat USB mass storage devices and El Torito "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-20 21:01 +0200
                                      Re: ISO9660 images, vfat USB mass storage devices and El Torito rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-21 02:28 +0000
                                        Re: ISO9660 images, vfat USB mass storage devices and El Torito "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-21 11:36 +0200
                                          Re: ISO9660 images, vfat USB mass storage devices and El Torito rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-21 19:06 +0000
                                            Re: ISO9660 images, vfat USB mass storage devices and El Torito "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-21 21:48 +0200
            Re: Wow - Oracle Linux - 10+ Gigabyte ISO ! rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-16 00:33 +0000
              Re: Wow - Oracle Linux - 10+ Gigabyte ISO ! "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-16 07:14 +0200
                Re: Wow - Oracle Linux - 10+ Gigabyte ISO ! Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-09-16 05:45 +0000
                  Re: Wow - Oracle Linux - 10+ Gigabyte ISO ! "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-16 08:52 +0200
                    Re: Wow - Oracle Linux - 10+ Gigabyte ISO ! Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-09-16 07:44 +0000
                      Re: Wow - Oracle Linux - 10+ Gigabyte ISO ! "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-16 10:07 +0200
                        Re: Wow - Oracle Linux - 10+ Gigabyte ISO ! rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-16 17:53 +0000
                          Re: Wow - Oracle Linux - 10+ Gigabyte ISO ! The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-17 14:02 +0100
                            Re: Wow - Oracle Linux - 10+ Gigabyte ISO ! rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-17 19:02 +0000
                              Re: Wow - Oracle Linux - 10+ Gigabyte ISO ! The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-17 22:18 +0100
                Re: Wow - Oracle Linux - 10+ Gigabyte ISO ! rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-16 06:18 +0000
                  Re: Wow - Oracle Linux - 10+ Gigabyte ISO ! The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-16 11:39 +0100
                    Re: Wow - Oracle Linux - 10+ Gigabyte ISO ! rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-16 17:48 +0000
                      Re: Wow - Oracle Linux - 10+ Gigabyte ISO ! "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-16 20:40 +0200
                        Re: Wow - Oracle Linux - 10+ Gigabyte ISO ! c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-09-16 21:40 -0400
                          Re: Wow - Oracle Linux - 10+ Gigabyte ISO ! c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-09-16 22:18 -0400
                            Re: Wow - Oracle Linux - 10+ Gigabyte ISO ! Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-09-17 03:29 +0000
                              Re: Wow - Oracle Linux - 10+ Gigabyte ISO ! "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-17 08:25 +0200
                              Re: Wow - Oracle Linux - 10+ Gigabyte ISO ! c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-09-17 02:33 -0400
                          Re: Wow - Oracle Linux - 10+ Gigabyte ISO ! The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-17 14:11 +0100
                            Re: Wow - Oracle Linux - 10+ Gigabyte ISO ! "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-17 20:40 +0200
                      Re: Wow - Oracle Linux - 10+ Gigabyte ISO ! The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-17 14:00 +0100
                Re: Wow - Oracle Linux - 10+ Gigabyte ISO ! c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-09-16 21:27 -0400
                  Re: Wow - Oracle Linux - 10+ Gigabyte ISO ! rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-17 02:11 +0000
                  Re: Wow - Oracle Linux - 10+ Gigabyte ISO ! The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-17 14:07 +0100
                    Re: Wow - Oracle Linux - 10+ Gigabyte ISO ! rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-17 19:41 +0000
              Re: Wow - Oracle Linux - 10+ Gigabyte ISO ! The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-16 11:35 +0100
                Re: Wow - Oracle Linux - 10+ Gigabyte ISO ! rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-16 18:02 +0000
                  Re: Wow - Oracle Linux - 10+ Gigabyte ISO ! The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-17 14:04 +0100
          Re: Wow - Oracle Linux - 10+ Gigabyte ISO ! The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-16 01:05 +0100
    Re: Wow - Oracle Linux - 10+ Gigabyte ISO ! Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2026-09-15 05:50 -0700
      Re: Wow - Oracle Linux - 10+ Gigabyte ISO ! Philippe <p.naudin+nntp@free.fr> - 2026-09-15 15:23 +0200
        Re: Wow - Oracle Linux - 10+ Gigabyte ISO ! Bud Frede <frede@mouse-potato.com> - 2026-10-08 15:52 -0400
          Re: Wow - Oracle Linux - 10+ Gigabyte ISO ! Cóilín Nioclásín Glostéir <thanks-to@Taf.com> - 2026-10-10 18:40 +0000
            Re: Wow - Oracle Linux - 10+ Gigabyte ISO ! c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-10-11 00:12 -0400
              Re: Wow - Oracle Linux - 10+ Gigabyte ISO ! Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-10-11 10:01 +0100
                Monochrome and readability (was: Re: Wow - Oracle Linux - 10+ Gigabyte ISO !) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-11 10:15 +0100
                  Re: Monochrome and readability The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-11 10:37 +0100
                  Re: Monochrome and readability c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-10-12 01:06 -0400
                    Re: Monochrome and readability Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-10-12 10:12 +0100
                      Re: Monochrome and readability Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-10-12 21:08 +0000
                        Re: Monochrome and readability John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-10-12 14:50 -0700
                          Re: Monochrome and readability Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-10-15 02:51 +0000
                        Re: Monochrome and readability c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-10-13 00:58 -0400
                    Re: Monochrome and readability Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-10-12 16:27 +0000
                      Re: Monochrome and readability Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-10-12 21:14 +0000
                        Re: Monochrome and readability c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-10-13 01:37 -0400
                        Re: Monochrome and readability "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-13 12:50 +0200
                Re: Wow - Oracle Linux - 10+ Gigabyte ISO ! The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-11 10:37 +0100
                Re: Wow - Oracle Linux - 10+ Gigabyte ISO ! Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-10-11 21:31 +0000
              Re: Wow - Oracle Linux - 10+ Gigabyte ISO ! The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-11 10:31 +0100
      Re: Wow - Oracle Linux - 10+ Gigabyte ISO ! Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-09-15 14:40 +0100
      Re: Wow - Oracle Linux - 10+ Gigabyte ISO ! rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-15 17:24 +0000
      Re: Wow - Oracle Linux - 10+ Gigabyte ISO ! Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-09-16 01:50 +0000
        Re: Wow - Oracle Linux - 10+ Gigabyte ISO ! Leroy H <lh@somewhere.net> - 2026-09-16 02:31 +0000
        Re: Wow - Oracle Linux - 10+ Gigabyte ISO ! rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-16 06:25 +0000

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#91881 — Re: ISO9660 images, vfat USB mass storage devices and El Torito

From"Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Date2026-09-21 11:36 +0200
SubjectRe: ISO9660 images, vfat USB mass storage devices and El Torito
Message-ID<rda7omxokk.ln2@Telcontar.valinor>
In reply to#91874
On 2026-09-21 04:28, rbowman wrote:
> On Sun, 20 Sep 2026 21:01:45 +0200, Carlos E.R. wrote:
> 
>> There is a bug somewhere that the master yast gui process is not
>> installed or something. I have not investigated.
>>
>> In a terminal, with "su -", just call "yast2" and you get the graphical
>> yast main menu. Just that I can not find the entry in the system menu
>> (xfce) to call yast2.
> 
> I'm not going to spend time on it but in KDE I see 31 separate Yast
> functions in the System menu.

Yes.

> They're configured to run xdg-su, passing '-
> c /sbin/yast2  as an argument. xdg-su is a launcher that requires a root
> password. I can ignore the root password but then there is extremely
> limited functionality.
> 
> if I run yast2 as root from the command line I get the TUI like in Leap
> 16. 

I get the graphical one. Two machines with XFCE. yast calls the TUI and 
yast2 the GUI.

> I had installed yast2 on Leap and then transitioned to Tumbleweed. I
> don't know if that resulted in all the useless Yast options. fwiw 'sudo
> zypper remove yast2' got rid of them all except 'YaST Alternativves'. That
> may go away with a reboot.
> 
> I haven't done anything with myrlyn but it appears to work with my user
> password.  zypper is fine. I removed the annoying PackageKit and locked
> it.

Yes, I often remove PackageKit.

-- 
Cheers, Carlos.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;

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#91911 — Re: ISO9660 images, vfat USB mass storage devices and El Torito

Fromrbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Date2026-09-21 19:06 +0000
SubjectRe: ISO9660 images, vfat USB mass storage devices and El Torito
Message-ID<nhddh6Fh0bbU31@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#91881
On Mon, 21 Sep 2026 11:36:27 +0200, Carlos E.R. wrote:

> I get the graphical one. Two machines with XFCE. yast calls the TUI and
> yast2 the GUI.

Yes, but you migrated from Leap 15. I started with 16

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#91913 — Re: ISO9660 images, vfat USB mass storage devices and El Torito

From"Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Date2026-09-21 21:48 +0200
SubjectRe: ISO9660 images, vfat USB mass storage devices and El Torito
Message-ID<s8e8omxafp.ln2@Telcontar.valinor>
In reply to#91911
On 2026-09-21 21:06, rbowman wrote:
> On Mon, 21 Sep 2026 11:36:27 +0200, Carlos E.R. wrote:
> 
>> I get the graphical one. Two machines with XFCE. yast calls the TUI and
>> yast2 the GUI.
> 
> Yes, but you migrated from Leap 15. I started with 16

Er... no. One machine was fresh installed this weekend directly to 16.0 
as double boot with windows 11. The other machine had 15.6 and I 
upgraded it to 16.0. Installed first the experimental XFCE for Wayland; 
as soon as booted, removed that, installed the classical XFCE and sddm, 
switched, and rebooted.

-- 
Cheers, Carlos.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;

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#91517

Fromrbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Date2026-09-16 00:33 +0000
Message-ID<ngu6dvF83ghU10@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#91501
On Tue, 15 Sep 2026 21:32:20 +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote:

> It works fine in a fat formatted thumb drive, because the installation
> process destroys the format and uses its own instead.

What installation process in copying an iso to a thumbdrive?
> 
> Who is using a fat stick to save isos today, anyway? Not Linux users.
> Use exfat at least.

This Linux user happened to have an older thumb drive laying around. I 
never worried about the format since I wasn't copying any files greater 
than 4 GB.

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#91540

From"Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Date2026-09-16 07:14 +0200
Message-ID<ngumugF9b65U6@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#91517
On 2026-09-16 02:33, rbowman wrote:
> On Tue, 15 Sep 2026 21:32:20 +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote:
> 
>> It works fine in a fat formatted thumb drive, because the installation
>> process destroys the format and uses its own instead.
> 
> What installation process in copying an iso to a thumbdrive?

dd if=isofile.iso of=/dev/sda

>> Who is using a fat stick to save isos today, anyway? Not Linux users.
>> Use exfat at least.
> 
> This Linux user happened to have an older thumb drive laying around. I
> never worried about the format since I wasn't copying any files greater
> than 4 GB.

:-D

-- 
Cheers,
        Carlos E.R.
        ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺.

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#91543

FromLawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid>
Date2026-09-16 05:45 +0000
Message-ID<118dadk$32s82$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#91540
On Wed, 16 Sep 2026 07:14:56 +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote:

> On 2026-09-16 02:33, rbowman wrote:
>>
>> What installation process in copying an iso to a thumbdrive?
>
> dd if=isofile.iso of=/dev/sda

Common thing to do on Linux, seems to be quite difficult on Windows.

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#91548

From"Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Date2026-09-16 08:52 +0200
Message-ID<ngusluF9b65U7@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#91543
On 2026-09-16 07:45, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
> On Wed, 16 Sep 2026 07:14:56 +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote:
> 
>> On 2026-09-16 02:33, rbowman wrote:
>>>
>>> What installation process in copying an iso to a thumbdrive?
>>
>> dd if=isofile.iso of=/dev/sda
> 
> Common thing to do on Linux, seems to be quite difficult on Windows.

There are other methods for Windows:

https://en.opensuse.org/SDB:Create_a_Live_USB_stick_using_Windows
https://en.opensuse.org/SDB:Create_a_Live_USB_stick_using_macOS

On Windows, you can use Etcher: <https://etcher.balena.io/>

or Rufus: <https://rufus.ie/en/>

or ImageUSB: <https://www.osforensics.com/tools/write-usb-images.html>

or SUSE Studio ImageWriter: 
<https://github.com/downloads/openSUSE/kiwi/ImageWriter.exe> (oops, not 
found) (obsolete method, not maintained)


-- 
Cheers,
        Carlos E.R.
        ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺.

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#91553

FromLawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid>
Date2026-09-16 07:44 +0000
Message-ID<118dhc0$36e8u$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#91548
On Wed, 16 Sep 2026 08:52:46 +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote:

> On 2026-09-16 07:45, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, 16 Sep 2026 07:14:56 +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote:
>>
>>> On 2026-09-16 02:33, rbowman wrote:
>>>>
>>>> What installation process in copying an iso to a thumbdrive?
>>>
>>> dd if=isofile.iso of=/dev/sda
>>
>> Common thing to do on Linux, seems to be quite difficult on
>> Windows.
>
> There are other methods for Windows:
>
> https://en.opensuse.org/SDB:Create_a_Live_USB_stick_using_Windows
> https://en.opensuse.org/SDB:Create_a_Live_USB_stick_using_macOS
>
> On Windows, you can use Etcher: <https://etcher.balena.io/>
>
> or Rufus: <https://rufus.ie/en/>
>
> or ImageUSB:
> <https://www.osforensics.com/tools/write-usb-images.html>
>
> or SUSE Studio ImageWriter:
> <https://github.com/downloads/openSUSE/kiwi/ImageWriter.exe> (oops,
> not found) (obsolete method, not maintained)

Not a single one of which you could describe as “straightforward”.

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#91554

From"Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Date2026-09-16 10:07 +0200
Message-ID<ngv12iF9b65U11@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#91553
On 2026-09-16 09:44, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
> On Wed, 16 Sep 2026 08:52:46 +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote:
> 
>> On 2026-09-16 07:45, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
>>>
>>> On Wed, 16 Sep 2026 07:14:56 +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2026-09-16 02:33, rbowman wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> What installation process in copying an iso to a thumbdrive?
>>>>
>>>> dd if=isofile.iso of=/dev/sda
>>>
>>> Common thing to do on Linux, seems to be quite difficult on
>>> Windows.
>>
>> There are other methods for Windows:
>>
>> https://en.opensuse.org/SDB:Create_a_Live_USB_stick_using_Windows
>> https://en.opensuse.org/SDB:Create_a_Live_USB_stick_using_macOS
>>
>> On Windows, you can use Etcher: <https://etcher.balena.io/>
>>
>> or Rufus: <https://rufus.ie/en/>
>>
>> or ImageUSB:
>> <https://www.osforensics.com/tools/write-usb-images.html>
>>
>> or SUSE Studio ImageWriter:
>> <https://github.com/downloads/openSUSE/kiwi/ImageWriter.exe> (oops,
>> not found) (obsolete method, not maintained)
> 
> Not a single one of which you could describe as “straightforward”.

They are mousey methods that Windows people should love. :-p

-- 
Cheers,
        Carlos E.R.
        ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺.

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#91577

Fromrbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Date2026-09-16 17:53 +0000
Message-ID<nh03cvF83ghU25@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#91554
On Wed, 16 Sep 2026 10:07:46 +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote:

> They are mousey methods that Windows people should love. :-p

I love the mousy methods on Linux. On Fedora, Ubuntu, Mint, and probably 
may more finding the iso in the file manager and right clicking brings up 
the option for the Disk Image Writer. There is also a Disk Image Reader 
but I haven't used it.

Tumbleweed, despite being KDE and having Dolphin like the Fedora box, 
doesn't show the option.

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#91643

FromThe Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Date2026-09-17 14:02 +0100
Message-ID<118goda$a423$6@dont-email.me>
In reply to#91577
On 16/09/2026 18:53, rbowman wrote:
> On Wed, 16 Sep 2026 10:07:46 +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote:
> 
>> They are mousey methods that Windows people should love. :-p
> 
> I love the mousy methods on Linux. On Fedora, Ubuntu, Mint, and probably
> may more finding the iso in the file manager and right clicking brings up
> the option for the Disk Image Writer. There is also a Disk Image Reader
> but I haven't used it.
> 
You can even 'mount' the ISO and look at its contents.

> Tumbleweed, despite being KDE and having Dolphin like the Fedora box,
> doesn't show the option.

I've got about 4 or 5 GUI based programs that come up when I right click 
on a .iso.
Brasero disc burner seems to be the default

-- 
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#91657

Fromrbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Date2026-09-17 19:02 +0000
Message-ID<nh2rqtF499oU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#91643
On Thu, 17 Sep 2026 14:02:34 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

> I've got about 4 or 5 GUI based programs that come up when I right click
> on a .iso.
> Brasero disc burner seems to be the default

For CD/DVDs?  I do have a USB DVD drive that I seldom use.

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#91685

FromThe Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Date2026-09-17 22:18 +0100
Message-ID<118hle9$lmgb$7@dont-email.me>
In reply to#91657
On 17/09/2026 20:02, rbowman wrote:
> On Thu, 17 Sep 2026 14:02:34 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> 
>> I've got about 4 or 5 GUI based programs that come up when I right click
>> on a .iso.
>> Brasero disc burner seems to be the default
> 
> For CD/DVDs?  I do have a USB DVD drive that I seldom use.
yes. I cannot remember if it will do a USB drive: seems not.
Anway there are other GUI options in Mint MATE. I ought to make one default

-- 
New Socialism consists essentially in being seen to have your heart in 
the right place whilst your head is in the clouds and your hand is in 
someone else's pocket.

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#91544

Fromrbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Date2026-09-16 06:18 +0000
Message-ID<nguqltF83ghU20@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#91540
On Wed, 16 Sep 2026 07:14:56 +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote:

> On 2026-09-16 02:33, rbowman wrote:
>> On Tue, 15 Sep 2026 21:32:20 +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote:
>> 
>>> It works fine in a fat formatted thumb drive, because the installation
>>> process destroys the format and uses its own instead.
>> 
>> What installation process in copying an iso to a thumbdrive?
> 
> dd if=isofile.iso of=/dev/sda

I don't use Data Destroyer.

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#91569

FromThe Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Date2026-09-16 11:39 +0100
Message-ID<118drkm$39eq9$13@dont-email.me>
In reply to#91544
On 16/09/2026 07:18, rbowman wrote:
> On Wed, 16 Sep 2026 07:14:56 +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote:
> 
>> On 2026-09-16 02:33, rbowman wrote:
>>> On Tue, 15 Sep 2026 21:32:20 +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote:
>>>
>>>> It works fine in a fat formatted thumb drive, because the installation
>>>> process destroys the format and uses its own instead.
>>>
>>> What installation process in copying an iso to a thumbdrive?
>>
>> dd if=isofile.iso of=/dev/sda
> 
> I don't use Data Destroyer.
More fool you then

There are plenty of other 'burn' programs available

-- 
Ideas are more powerful than guns. We would not let our enemies have 
guns, why should we let them have ideas?

Josef Stalin

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#91576

Fromrbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Date2026-09-16 17:48 +0000
Message-ID<nh0333F83ghU24@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#91569
On Wed, 16 Sep 2026 11:39:18 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

> On 16/09/2026 07:18, rbowman wrote:
>> On Wed, 16 Sep 2026 07:14:56 +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote:
>> 
>>> On 2026-09-16 02:33, rbowman wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 15 Sep 2026 21:32:20 +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> It works fine in a fat formatted thumb drive, because the
>>>>> installation process destroys the format and uses its own instead.
>>>>
>>>> What installation process in copying an iso to a thumbdrive?
>>>
>>> dd if=isofile.iso of=/dev/sda
>> 
>> I don't use Data Destroyer.
> More fool you then
> 
> There are plenty of other 'burn' programs available

I'm lazy. With GNOME Files (Nautilus) on Ubuntu and Mint or Dolphin on 
Fedora, right click on the iso and select Disk Image Writer. Job done 
without remembering dd's cryptic command line. 

My SUSE Tumbleweed is KDE but Dolphin doesn't have the option. So far 
Tumbleweed is okay but it does have oddities.

From the original statement, copying an iso to a thumbdrive to save it or 
move it around is not 'create a bootable thumbdrive'. 'cp' doesn't 
reformat and a 4.2 GB SUSE iso can't be copied to a vfat device. 
Formatting it to exfat works but it isn't automatic.

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#91586

From"Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Date2026-09-16 20:40 +0200
Message-ID<1e4rnmx573.ln2@Telcontar.valinor>
In reply to#91576
On 2026-09-16 19:48, rbowman wrote:
> On Wed, 16 Sep 2026 11:39:18 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> 
>> On 16/09/2026 07:18, rbowman wrote:
>>> On Wed, 16 Sep 2026 07:14:56 +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2026-09-16 02:33, rbowman wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, 15 Sep 2026 21:32:20 +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> It works fine in a fat formatted thumb drive, because the
>>>>>> installation process destroys the format and uses its own instead.
>>>>>
>>>>> What installation process in copying an iso to a thumbdrive?
>>>>
>>>> dd if=isofile.iso of=/dev/sda
>>>
>>> I don't use Data Destroyer.
>> More fool you then
>>
>> There are plenty of other 'burn' programs available
> 
> I'm lazy. With GNOME Files (Nautilus) on Ubuntu and Mint or Dolphin on
> Fedora, right click on the iso and select Disk Image Writer. Job done
> without remembering dd's cryptic command line.
> 
> My SUSE Tumbleweed is KDE but Dolphin doesn't have the option. So far
> Tumbleweed is okay but it does have oddities.
> 
>  From the original statement, copying an iso to a thumbdrive to save it or
> move it around is not 'create a bootable thumbdrive'. 'cp' doesn't
> reformat and a 4.2 GB SUSE iso can't be copied to a vfat device.
> Formatting it to exfat works but it isn't automatic.

Actually

   cp image.iso /dev/sdX

works :-)  :-p

-- 
Cheers, Carlos.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;

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#91593

Fromc186282 <c186282@nnada.net>
Date2026-09-16 21:40 -0400
Message-ID<CuqcnTFfLZLc2Db3nZ2dnZfqnPidnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#91586
On 9/16/26 14:40, Carlos E.R. wrote:
> On 2026-09-16 19:48, rbowman wrote:
>> On Wed, 16 Sep 2026 11:39:18 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>
>>> On 16/09/2026 07:18, rbowman wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 16 Sep 2026 07:14:56 +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 2026-09-16 02:33, rbowman wrote:
>>>>>> On Tue, 15 Sep 2026 21:32:20 +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It works fine in a fat formatted thumb drive, because the
>>>>>>> installation process destroys the format and uses its own instead.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What installation process in copying an iso to a thumbdrive?
>>>>>
>>>>> dd if=isofile.iso of=/dev/sda
>>>>
>>>> I don't use Data Destroyer.
>>> More fool you then
>>>
>>> There are plenty of other 'burn' programs available
>>
>> I'm lazy. With GNOME Files (Nautilus) on Ubuntu and Mint or Dolphin on
>> Fedora, right click on the iso and select Disk Image Writer. Job done
>> without remembering dd's cryptic command line.
>>
>> My SUSE Tumbleweed is KDE but Dolphin doesn't have the option. So far
>> Tumbleweed is okay but it does have oddities.
>>
>>  From the original statement, copying an iso to a thumbdrive to save 
>> it or
>> move it around is not 'create a bootable thumbdrive'. 'cp' doesn't
>> reformat and a 4.2 GB SUSE iso can't be copied to a vfat device.
>> Formatting it to exfat works but it isn't automatic.
> 
> Actually
> 
>    cp image.iso /dev/sdX
> 
> works :-)  :-p


   Hey ! I'll try it !

   I take it that treating the stick as a /dev is
   the magic secret ?

   You're still better off with 'Etcher' or equivs
   since they checksum/verify what you've done.

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#91596

Fromc186282 <c186282@nnada.net>
Date2026-09-16 22:18 -0400
Message-ID<w46dnSftwsi90zb3nZ2dnZfqn_udnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#91593
On 9/16/26 21:40, c186282 wrote:
> On 9/16/26 14:40, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>> On 2026-09-16 19:48, rbowman wrote:
>>> On Wed, 16 Sep 2026 11:39:18 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 16/09/2026 07:18, rbowman wrote:
>>>>> On Wed, 16 Sep 2026 07:14:56 +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2026-09-16 02:33, rbowman wrote:
>>>>>>> On Tue, 15 Sep 2026 21:32:20 +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It works fine in a fat formatted thumb drive, because the
>>>>>>>> installation process destroys the format and uses its own instead.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What installation process in copying an iso to a thumbdrive?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> dd if=isofile.iso of=/dev/sda
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't use Data Destroyer.
>>>> More fool you then
>>>>
>>>> There are plenty of other 'burn' programs available
>>>
>>> I'm lazy. With GNOME Files (Nautilus) on Ubuntu and Mint or Dolphin on
>>> Fedora, right click on the iso and select Disk Image Writer. Job done
>>> without remembering dd's cryptic command line.
>>>
>>> My SUSE Tumbleweed is KDE but Dolphin doesn't have the option. So far
>>> Tumbleweed is okay but it does have oddities.
>>>
>>>  From the original statement, copying an iso to a thumbdrive to save 
>>> it or
>>> move it around is not 'create a bootable thumbdrive'. 'cp' doesn't
>>> reformat and a 4.2 GB SUSE iso can't be copied to a vfat device.
>>> Formatting it to exfat works but it isn't automatic.
>>
>> Actually
>>
>>    cp image.iso /dev/sdX
>>
>> works :-)  :-p
> 
> 
>    Hey ! I'll try it !
> 
>    I take it that treating the stick as a /dev is
>    the magic secret ?
> 
>    You're still better off with 'Etcher' or equivs
>    since they checksum/verify what you've done.

   Hey - WORKED !

   Had an old usb2 stick, completely reset it with an MSDOS
   part table and a FAT32 data partition. Then did yer trick.

   It boots ! Touchpad doesn't work but that's an Antix
   problem.

   Unless they added it recently though, 'cp' alone does
   not seem to do any data-integrity checks on the dest.

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#91601

FromCharlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid>
Date2026-09-17 03:29 +0000
Message-ID<E8JqS.2392$DRA7.2243@fx35.iad>
In reply to#91596
On 2026-09-17, c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote:

> On 9/16/26 21:40, c186282 wrote:
>
>> On 9/16/26 14:40, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>
>>> On 2026-09-16 19:48, rbowman wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Wed, 16 Sep 2026 11:39:18 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 16/09/2026 07:18, rbowman wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, 16 Sep 2026 07:14:56 +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 2026-09-16 02:33, rbowman wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tue, 15 Sep 2026 21:32:20 +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It works fine in a fat formatted thumb drive, because the
>>>>>>>>> installation process destroys the format and uses its own instead.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What installation process in copying an iso to a thumbdrive?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> dd if=isofile.iso of=/dev/sda
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't use Data Destroyer.
>>>>>
>>>>> More fool you then
>>>>>
>>>>> There are plenty of other 'burn' programs available
>>>>
>>>> I'm lazy. With GNOME Files (Nautilus) on Ubuntu and Mint or Dolphin on
>>>> Fedora, right click on the iso and select Disk Image Writer. Job done
>>>> without remembering dd's cryptic command line.
>>>>
>>>> My SUSE Tumbleweed is KDE but Dolphin doesn't have the option. So far
>>>> Tumbleweed is okay but it does have oddities.
>>>>
>>>>  From the original statement, copying an iso to a thumbdrive to save 
>>>> it or
>>>> move it around is not 'create a bootable thumbdrive'. 'cp' doesn't
>>>> reformat and a 4.2 GB SUSE iso can't be copied to a vfat device.
>>>> Formatting it to exfat works but it isn't automatic.
>>>
>>> Actually
>>>
>>>    cp image.iso /dev/sdX
>>>
>>> works :-)  :-p
>> 
>>    Hey ! I'll try it !
>> 
>>    I take it that treating the stick as a /dev is
>>    the magic secret ?
>> 
>>    You're still better off with 'Etcher' or equivs
>>    since they checksum/verify what you've done.
>
>    Hey - WORKED !
>
>    Had an old usb2 stick, completely reset it with an MSDOS
>    part table and a FAT32 data partition. Then did yer trick.
>
>    It boots ! Touchpad doesn't work but that's an Antix
>    problem.
>
>    Unless they added it recently though, 'cp' alone does
>    not seem to do any data-integrity checks on the dest.

Now that you've gone this far, how about changing the command to

    cmp image.iso /dev/sdX

and see whether that verifies it?
(Haven't tried it, just a thought...)

-- 
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