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| Started by | c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> |
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| First post | 2026-08-18 01:44 -0400 |
| Last post | 2026-08-19 22:21 -0400 |
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What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-18 01:44 -0400
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-18 01:59 -0400
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-18 06:05 +0000
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? vallor <vallor@vallor.earth> - 2026-08-18 08:10 +0000
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-08-18 11:33 +0100
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-18 22:16 -0400
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-19 03:32 +0000
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-19 14:05 +0100
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-08-19 13:23 +0000
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-19 14:10 +0000
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-19 15:15 +0100
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-19 21:53 +0000
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-08-19 22:54 +0000
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? Anton Antimo <anton@safunu.org> - 2026-08-20 10:31 -0300
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-21 13:10 +0100
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? Anton Antimo <anton@safunu.org> - 2026-08-20 10:30 -0300
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-08-20 18:04 +0000
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-19 14:01 +0000
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-19 15:24 +0100
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-19 22:07 +0000
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-08-22 04:02 +0000
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-22 06:48 +0000
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-08-22 16:15 +0000
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? vallor <vallor@vallor.earth> - 2026-08-23 21:52 +0000
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-24 01:07 +0000
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-24 11:15 +0100
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-24 19:26 +0000
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-25 11:45 +0100
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-25 18:39 +0000
Power lines Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2026-08-25 06:48 -0700
Re: Power lines The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-25 15:10 +0100
Re: Power lines Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2026-08-26 18:04 -0700
Re: Power lines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-27 03:23 -0400
Re: Power lines The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-27 12:09 +0100
Re: Power lines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-27 22:15 -0400
Re: Power lines rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-28 03:21 +0000
Re: Power lines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-28 02:42 -0400
Re: Power lines The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-28 13:15 +0100
Re: Power lines rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-28 18:40 +0000
Re: Power lines The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-29 10:37 +0100
Re: Power lines rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-29 20:13 +0000
Re: Power lines "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2026-08-29 21:28 +0100
Re: Power lines The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-29 23:23 +0100
Re: Power lines rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-29 22:47 +0000
Re: Power lines The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-29 23:20 +0100
Re: Power lines "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-30 13:43 +0200
Re: Power lines Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-08-30 15:49 +0000
Re: Power lines rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-30 18:40 +0000
Re: Power lines "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-30 21:23 +0200
Re: Power lines rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-30 19:36 +0000
Re: Power lines Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-08-31 15:50 +0000
Re: Power lines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-09-01 02:55 -0400
Re: Power lines rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-01 07:41 +0000
Re: Power lines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-09-01 03:49 -0400
Re: Power lines The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-01 13:17 +0100
Re: Power lines rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-01 18:24 +0000
Re: Power lines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-09-02 01:33 -0400
Re: Power lines The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-02 11:43 +0100
Re: Power lines The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-01 13:15 +0100
Re: Power lines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-09-02 01:32 -0400
Re: Power lines rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-02 13:55 +0000
Re: Power lines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-09-02 22:30 -0400
Re: Power lines The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-01 13:12 +0100
Re: Power lines Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-09-01 18:14 +0000
Re: Power lines The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-01 19:22 +0100
Re: Power lines rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-01 21:06 +0000
Re: Power lines Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-09-01 23:40 +0000
Re: Power lines The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-02 11:32 +0100
Re: Power lines Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-09-01 23:40 +0000
Re: Power lines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-09-02 01:28 -0400
Re: Power lines The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-02 11:41 +0100
Re: Power lines The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-01 13:04 +0100
Re: Power lines The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-28 13:09 +0100
Re: Power lines The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-28 13:06 +0100
Re: Power lines rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-27 14:19 +0000
Re: Power lines The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-27 15:25 +0100
Re: Power lines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-27 22:24 -0400
Re: Power lines The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-28 13:18 +0100
Re: Power lines Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2026-08-28 05:56 -0700
Re: Power lines The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-28 15:33 +0100
Re: Power lines Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2026-08-28 16:06 +0000
Re: Power lines The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-29 10:30 +0100
Re: Power lines rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-28 18:51 +0000
Re: Power lines The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-29 10:39 +0100
Re: Power lines rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-29 20:26 +0000
Re: Power lines The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-29 23:25 +0100
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-25 01:46 -0400
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-25 11:50 +0100
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-25 18:43 +0000
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-26 04:07 -0400
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? Enoch Powell <e.powell@tutanatu.kom> - 2026-08-27 10:54 -0600
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-27 19:11 +0100
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? Enoch Powell <e.powell@tutanatu.kom> - 2026-08-27 12:57 -0600
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-28 12:55 +0100
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-28 18:25 +0000
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-28 00:27 +0100
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-28 00:45 -0400
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-28 13:02 +0100
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2026-08-28 16:13 +0000
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-29 10:32 +0100
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-29 19:38 +0000
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-29 22:57 +0100
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-30 06:10 +0000
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-27 22:55 -0400
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-25 23:34 -0400
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2026-08-26 04:27 +0000
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-26 08:57 +0100
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2026-08-27 06:30 -0700
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-27 13:57 +0000
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-27 22:22 -0400
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-28 13:16 +0100
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-28 18:36 +0000
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-08-28 19:42 +0100
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-29 10:28 +0100
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-29 20:04 +0000
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-29 23:18 +0100
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-29 22:50 +0000
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-30 18:03 +0100
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-30 18:35 +0000
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-31 00:43 +0100
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-31 02:21 +0000
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-31 12:33 +0100
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-31 09:22 +0100
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-31 13:01 +0100
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-31 03:00 -0400
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-31 12:47 +0100
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-31 18:36 +0000
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-09-01 02:09 -0400
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-01 07:11 +0000
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-09-01 03:47 -0400
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-01 13:56 +0100
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-01 18:00 +0000
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-01 19:11 +0100
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-09-01 18:17 +0000
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-09-01 18:19 +0000
[OT] Finland, and Russia (was: Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ?) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-01 23:49 +0100
Re: [OT] Finland, and Russia (was: Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ?) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-02 02:53 +0000
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-09-02 02:46 -0400
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-01 13:54 +0100
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-01 18:17 +0000
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-01 19:23 +0100
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-01 21:23 +0200
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-01 21:18 +0000
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-09-02 02:00 -0400
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-02 11:44 +0100
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-01 13:43 +0100
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-01 18:12 +0000
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? "Stanislav N. aka pztrn" <pztrn@oldproto.invalid> - 2026-08-30 07:55 +0500
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-30 02:08 -0400
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-30 06:30 +0000
[OT] Russian Federation, wars (was: Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ?) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-30 10:04 +0100
Re: [OT] Russian Federation, wars Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-08-30 10:22 +0100
Re: [OT] Russian Federation, wars "Stanislav N. aka pztrn" <pztrn@oldproto.invalid> - 2026-08-30 16:13 +0500
Re: [OT] Russian Federation, wars The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-30 18:12 +0100
Re: [OT] Russian Federation, wars "Stanislav N. aka pztrn" <pztrn@oldproto.invalid> - 2026-08-30 16:47 +0500
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-29 13:58 +0200
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2026-08-29 10:11 -0700
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-29 22:20 +0200
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-29 23:06 +0000
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-30 02:14 -0400
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-30 06:35 +0000
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-30 19:28 +0200
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-31 02:15 -0400
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-29 22:55 +0100
Salmonella (Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ?) Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2026-08-30 09:28 -0700
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-30 19:27 +0200
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-30 18:31 +0000
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-30 21:30 +0200
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-30 19:43 +0000
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-30 21:57 +0200
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-31 02:35 +0000
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-31 02:50 -0400
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-31 18:29 +0000
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-31 01:52 -0400
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-31 12:47 +0200
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-31 12:37 +0100
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-08-31 15:50 +0000
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-31 18:41 +0000
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-09-01 02:37 -0400
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2026-09-01 06:26 -0700
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-01 19:05 +0100
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-01 21:07 +0000
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-01 18:19 +0000
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? Enoch Powell <e.powell@tutanatu.kom> - 2026-08-31 17:07 -0600
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-09-01 01:20 -0400
[OT] Personal safety in the USA (was: Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ?) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-01 10:27 +0100
[OT] Personal safety in the USA (was: Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ?) John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-09-01 08:23 -0700
Re: [OT] Personal safety in the USA Enoch Powell <e.powell@tutanatu.kom> - 2026-09-01 10:24 -0600
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-01 13:04 +0100
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? Enoch Powell <e.powell@tutanatu.kom> - 2026-09-01 11:00 -0600
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-09-02 01:23 -0400
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-02 11:35 +0100
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-29 22:49 +0100
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-08-27 16:32 +0100
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-27 22:44 -0400
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-08-19 12:57 +0000
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-19 14:03 +0100
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-19 22:24 -0400
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-18 22:07 -0400
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-19 03:42 +0000
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-19 02:14 -0400
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-19 14:13 +0100
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-19 14:14 +0000
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-19 15:27 +0100
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-08-19 16:57 +0000
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-19 14:02 +0100
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-19 13:54 +0000
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-19 22:21 -0400
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2026-08-31 02:21 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <nfk6q1FprcuU82@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #90928 |
On Mon, 31 Aug 2026 00:43:02 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > On 30/08/2026 19:35, rbowman wrote: >> On Sun, 30 Aug 2026 18:03:12 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >> >>> On 29/08/2026 23:50, rbowman wrote: >>>> On Sat, 29 Aug 2026 23:18:25 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >>>> >>>>> Most UK media doesn't report at all, or only reports pro Russian >>>>> stuff. >>>> >>>> You obviously have found the wellspring of pro Ukrainian stuff. >>> >>> Well no, just not obviously pro Russian stuff >> >> The balanced view would be to let them solve their own problems that >> have been going on since the Swedes invaded and became Rus. > > If you wanted that you should not have guaranteed the Ukrainians defence > against Russia when they gave up all their nuclear weapons. Generic you noted. Trust me, the policies of the US government do not reflect my wishes. > But we have come to understand that America never makes promises it > intends to keep. It's not trustworthy over the course of one administration let alone successive administrations with differing goals that will reverse the last one's policies. If you want long term stability a representative democracy is not the way to go.
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-08-31 12:33 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <1173oph$s37s$4@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #90932 |
On 31/08/2026 03:21, rbowman wrote: > It's not trustworthy over the course of one administration let alone > successive administrations with differing goals that will reverse the last > one's policies. If you want long term stability a representative democracy > is not the way to go. But on the other hand, business and prosperity require the mutual adoption of a set of rules that transcend the issues of immediate profit. E.g a nation that routinely confiscates goods destined for its citizens, will find that it is not profitable to do business with. It becomes isolated. You might call it North Korea. Businesses that do not keep to handshake contracts require legal ones and the means to enforce them,. At some point that makes them too expensive to do business with. Yes, I was all ready to sue the Ford Motor Company when unexpectedly they paid up. I had known people who had worked for them, so I was ready. Nations that think that everybody has to do business with them no matter what tariffs they impose, run by someone who pretends he was actually a business man, rather than a failed small time bully in the real estate business,are in for a shock. If you want to do business, you need a stable environment. Democracy or otherwise. That means keeping your word, to build trust and respect. No one trusts or respects the USA any more. Even Iran's leadership is laughing. But they don't have commercial ties. The rest of us are quietly untying them. -- "Women actually are capable of being far more than the feminists will let them."
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| From | Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-08-31 09:22 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <wwv33vuem36.fsf@LkoBDZeT.terraraq.uk> |
| In reply to | #90928 |
The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> writes: > On 30/08/2026 19:35, rbowman wrote: >> On Sun, 30 Aug 2026 18:03:12 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >>> On 29/08/2026 23:50, rbowman wrote: >>>> On Sat, 29 Aug 2026 23:18:25 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >>>>> Most UK media doesn't report at all, or only reports pro Russian >>>>> stuff. >>>> >>>> You obviously have found the wellspring of pro Ukrainian stuff. >>> >>> Well no, just not obviously pro Russian stuff >> >> The balanced view would be to let them solve their own problems that >> have been going on since the Swedes invaded and became Rus. > > If you wanted that you should not have guaranteed the Ukrainians > defence against Russia when they gave up all their nuclear weapons. I think this is in reference to the 1994 Trilateral Statement, which is not a particularly strong security assurance: it only applies in cases where nuclear weapons are used and the commitment is only to seek UN Security Council action. https://nsarchive.gwu.edu/document/30922-document-10-january-14-trilateral-statement-january-14-1994 (The flaw should have been apparent even at the time: Russia would veto any proposed UNSC action after nuking Ukraine.) > But we have come to understand that America never makes promises it > intends to keep. Unless there are further assurances somewhere, I don’t think the USA has broken a promise here by limiting its support for Ukraine (just made a serious mistake). -- https://www.greenend.org.uk/rjk/
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-08-31 13:01 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <1173qfb$s37s$7@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #90949 |
On 31/08/2026 09:22, Richard Kettlewell wrote: > The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> writes: >> On 30/08/2026 19:35, rbowman wrote: >>> On Sun, 30 Aug 2026 18:03:12 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >>>> On 29/08/2026 23:50, rbowman wrote: >>>>> On Sat, 29 Aug 2026 23:18:25 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >>>>>> Most UK media doesn't report at all, or only reports pro Russian >>>>>> stuff. >>>>> >>>>> You obviously have found the wellspring of pro Ukrainian stuff. >>>> >>>> Well no, just not obviously pro Russian stuff >>> >>> The balanced view would be to let them solve their own problems that >>> have been going on since the Swedes invaded and became Rus. >> >> If you wanted that you should not have guaranteed the Ukrainians >> defence against Russia when they gave up all their nuclear weapons. > > I think this is in reference to the 1994 Trilateral Statement, which is > not a particularly strong security assurance: it only applies in cases > where nuclear weapons are used and the commitment is only to seek UN > Security Council action. > > https://nsarchive.gwu.edu/document/30922-document-10-january-14-trilateral-statement-january-14-1994 > > (The flaw should have been apparent even at the time: Russia would veto > any proposed UNSC action after nuking Ukraine.) > Nuclear weapons was not a primary objective to the Budapest memorandum. In it Belaurs Ukraine and Khazakstan were guaranteed independence provided they played nice with Russia. Only Russian propgandists claim that the nuclear attack was all that was contained within it >> But we have come to understand that America never makes promises it >> intends to keep. > > Unless there are further assurances somewhere, I don’t think the USA has > broken a promise here by limiting its support for Ukraine (just made a > serious mistake). > Well it depends on how explicit the promises were. The West has allowed the USA to sell it arms and run its defence policy on the understanding that all that money spent on US kit and US bases would actually mean something when the shit hit the fan, and that it would be supported, and work, if a threat to NATO countries were apparent. It turns out that like so much US hardware, it was junk, and would only work if the parent company let it, and could only be serviced by the parent company at huge expense. Think John Deere. Think Microsoft. And all that came out because a corrupt president who owed the Russians his whole existence, used his powers to stop it being used. We are thankful we got the message before it got any further. -- "Socialist governments traditionally do make a financial mess. They always run out of other people's money. It's quite a characteristic of them" Margaret Thatcher
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| From | c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> |
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| Date | 2026-08-31 03:00 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <Z7ycnQ2es6zluwj3nZ2dnZfqnPednZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #90917 |
On 8/30/26 14:35, rbowman wrote: > On Sun, 30 Aug 2026 18:03:12 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > >> On 29/08/2026 23:50, rbowman wrote: >>> On Sat, 29 Aug 2026 23:18:25 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >>> >>>> Most UK media doesn't report at all, or only reports pro Russian >>>> stuff. >>> >>> You obviously have found the wellspring of pro Ukrainian stuff. >> >> Well no, just not obviously pro Russian stuff > > The balanced view would be to let them solve their own problems that have > been going on since the Swedes invaded and became Rus. ?Que? Swedes never really became Rus - at least not for 1500+ years. Different cultures. Different 'takes'. Those who became Rus - SUPER hard-asses. Never, ever, discount what they're willing do do for power/dominance. We've SEEN that in the 20th century, even a little before. Suffer massive MASSIVE casualties and pain to EVENTUALLY destroy the Foe. NEVER assume the Rus will act in what most of the world thinks is a 'sane' manner. That is not their culture and history. Vlad has burned up at LEAST half a million in his war against Ukraine. Russians don't even blink at that. Russia is NOT the UK or USA. HARD-asses in the old meaning.
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-08-31 12:47 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <1173pkt$s37s$6@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #90942 |
On 31/08/2026 08:00, c186282 wrote: > NEVER assume the Rus will act in what most of the world thinks is a > 'sane' manner. That is not their culture and history. > No, > Vlad has burned up at LEAST half a million in his war against > Ukraine. Dead, yes, permanently disabled, probably another million. He's walked through every cold war tank he ever had, He has gone cap in hand to the N. Koreans for out of date artillery shells. His whole black sea fleet is destroyed and the ports in the sea of Azov are burning. He is down to his last AWACS aircraft. 50% of his oil refineries are off line., 40% of his biggest logistics firm is destroyed. China is quietly building businesses and towns in his far east. > Russians don't even blink at that. Russia is NOT the UK or USA. HE doesn't blink. Russians simply don't know until it affects them personally. It's safer to believe what they are told and look the other way. And no one comes back from the front lines if it can be helped. They are recycled with horrendous wounds until they die, mostly. They aren't allowed mobile phones any more. The internet has been disabled officially. The banking system is teetering on the edge of total collapse. But they are being told that they are winning. Democracy has a lot of problems, but its not THAT bad -- Any fool can believe in principles - and most of them do!
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2026-08-31 18:36 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <nflvtrFtomiU2@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #90942 |
On Mon, 31 Aug 2026 03:00:44 -0400, c186282 wrote: > On 8/30/26 14:35, rbowman wrote: >> On Sun, 30 Aug 2026 18:03:12 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >> >>> On 29/08/2026 23:50, rbowman wrote: >>>> On Sat, 29 Aug 2026 23:18:25 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >>>> >>>>> Most UK media doesn't report at all, or only reports pro Russian >>>>> stuff. >>>> >>>> You obviously have found the wellspring of pro Ukrainian stuff. >>> >>> Well no, just not obviously pro Russian stuff >> >> The balanced view would be to let them solve their own problems that >> have been going on since the Swedes invaded and became Rus. > > ?Que? > > Swedes never really became Rus - at least not for 1500+ years. Ass end backwards, as usual. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Varangians
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| From | c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> |
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| Date | 2026-09-01 02:09 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <KomcnSWtk4rX8Qv3nZ2dnZfqnPqdnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #90974 |
On 8/31/26 14:36, rbowman wrote: > On Mon, 31 Aug 2026 03:00:44 -0400, c186282 wrote: > >> On 8/30/26 14:35, rbowman wrote: >>> On Sun, 30 Aug 2026 18:03:12 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >>> >>>> On 29/08/2026 23:50, rbowman wrote: >>>>> On Sat, 29 Aug 2026 23:18:25 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Most UK media doesn't report at all, or only reports pro Russian >>>>>> stuff. >>>>> >>>>> You obviously have found the wellspring of pro Ukrainian stuff. >>>> >>>> Well no, just not obviously pro Russian stuff >>> >>> The balanced view would be to let them solve their own problems that >>> have been going on since the Swedes invaded and became Rus. >> >> ?Que? >> >> Swedes never really became Rus - at least not for 1500+ years. > > Ass end backwards, as usual. > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Varangians Proto-Rus/Scandis migrated up along the Caucuses about 15+ thousand years ago, following the melting ice-age glaciers. Some went east, some went west. There was considerable east/west cross-pollination for a long time. Really NOT much genetic diff between Swedes and Finns and today's Russians. Some shared cultural stuff too ... at least up thru the "Viking Age". The Rus became MUCH more hard-ass though and, important note, REMAIN so.
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2026-09-01 07:11 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <nfnc5jFtomiU13@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #90987 |
On Tue, 1 Sep 2026 02:09:57 -0400, c186282 wrote: > Really NOT much genetic diff between Swedes and Finns and today's > Russians. Some shared cultural stuff too ... at least up thru the > "Viking Age" Finns are a geneticist's dream, and not in a good way. https://www.discovermagazine.com/finlands-fascinating-genes-1282 Culturally Finland is quite different. Supposedly Tolkein pattern some of the language in the LOTR on Finnish since it was so different from the western Germanic languages. He also drew from the Kalevala, which again differs from the Germanic corpus. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kalevala
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| From | c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> |
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| Date | 2026-09-01 03:47 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <WMecncmyfJuMHgv3nZ2dnZfqn_idnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #90991 |
On 9/1/26 03:11, rbowman wrote: > On Tue, 1 Sep 2026 02:09:57 -0400, c186282 wrote: > >> Really NOT much genetic diff between Swedes and Finns and today's >> Russians. Some shared cultural stuff too ... at least up thru the >> "Viking Age" > > Finns are a geneticist's dream, and not in a good way. Well, Right NOW, they aren't Rus. 50/100 years, who knows. > https://www.discovermagazine.com/finlands-fascinating-genes-1282 > > Culturally Finland is quite different. Supposedly Tolkein pattern some of > the language in the LOTR on Finnish since it was so different from the > western Germanic languages. He also drew from the Kalevala, which again > differs from the Germanic corpus. > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kalevala Again, 50/100 years - Who Knows ? "Finland" WAS Russia for a LONG time. Right now it seems pretty moderate - but that MAY not last.
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-09-01 13:56 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <1176i17$1o1ba$23@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #90995 |
On 01/09/2026 08:47, c186282 wrote:
> On 9/1/26 03:11, rbowman wrote:
>> On Tue, 1 Sep 2026 02:09:57 -0400, c186282 wrote:
>>
>>> Really NOT much genetic diff between Swedes and Finns and today's
>>> Russians. Some shared cultural stuff too ... at least up thru the
>>> "Viking Age"
>>
>> Finns are a geneticist's dream, and not in a good way.
>
> Well, Right NOW, they aren't Rus.
>
> 50/100 years, who knows.
People who do the research that you fail to do.
>
>> https://www.discovermagazine.com/finlands-fascinating-genes-1282
>>
>> Culturally Finland is quite different. Supposedly Tolkein pattern some of
>> the language in the LOTR on Finnish since it was so different from the
>> western Germanic languages. He also drew from the Kalevala, which again
>> differs from the Germanic corpus.
>>
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kalevala
>
> Again, 50/100 years - Who Knows ?
>
People who do the research that you fail to do.
> "Finland" WAS Russia for a LONG time.
>
Not really
> Right now it seems pretty moderate - but
> that MAY not last.
>
The Finns are a great people They should invade Russia themselves. They
would make a far better fist of running it.
>
--
“The fundamental cause of the trouble in the modern world today is that
the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt."
- Bertrand Russell
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2026-09-01 18:00 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <nfoi67FtomiU17@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #91011 |
On Tue, 1 Sep 2026 13:56:07 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > The Finns are a great people They should invade Russia themselves. They > would make a far better fist of running it. https://warfarehistorynetwork.com/article/finnish-sniper-simo-hayha/ The invasion attempt didn't go well. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Continuation_War Note that Britain and the Commonwealth nations declared war on Finland. The following Lapland War against Germany was a condition of the armistice with the USSR but wasn't enthusiastic. The Germans were already retreating to Norway. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Winter_War_(film) It's a rather depressing movie, a lot of wading through the snow. I have the 2 DVD set. Strangely most of the text on the case is Japanese, I think. kanji in any case. I enjoy the Schwedenkrimi genre, aka Nordic Noir. Some of the plot lines involve the ambiguous relationship of Sweden and Finland with Germany during WWII. Norway has done a better job of sanitizing its history.
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-09-01 19:11 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <11774g3$226dr$3@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #91016 |
On 01/09/2026 19:00, rbowman wrote: > I enjoy the Schwedenkrimi genre, aka Nordic Noir. SkandiShit™. The original 'girl with the dragon tattoo' trilogy in Swedish with the Spanish/Swedish actress in them are superb, mainly due to her (Noomi Rapace's) superb acting. -- "A point of view can be a dangerous luxury when substituted for insight and understanding". Marshall McLuhan
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| From | Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-09-01 18:17 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <hFElS.1451$gpx5.171@fx22.iad> |
| In reply to | #91018 |
On 2026-09-01, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote: > On 01/09/2026 19:00, rbowman wrote: > >> I enjoy the Schwedenkrimi genre, aka Nordic Noir. > > SkandiShit™. > > The original 'girl with the dragon tattoo' trilogy in Swedish with the > Spanish/Swedish actress in them are superb, mainly due to her (Noomi > Rapace's) superb acting. Agreed. The U.S. version doesn't hld a candel to the Swedish one. Ditto for "A Man Called Ove", although you gotta give Tom Hanks an E for effort. -- /~\ Charlie Gibbs | In this world there are \ / <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> | two kinds of people: X I'm really at ac.dekanfrus | 1. Those who can extrapolate / \ if you read it the right way. | from incomplete data.
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| From | Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-09-01 18:19 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <oGElS.38344$UGU.20561@fx46.iad> |
| In reply to | #91023 |
On 2026-09-01, Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> wrote:
> On 2026-09-01, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>
>> On 01/09/2026 19:00, rbowman wrote:
>>
>>> I enjoy the Schwedenkrimi genre, aka Nordic Noir.
>>
>> SkandiShit™.
>>
>> The original 'girl with the dragon tattoo' trilogy in Swedish with the
>> Spanish/Swedish actress in them are superb, mainly due to her (Noomi
>> Rapace's) superb acting.
>
> Agreed. The U.S. version doesn't hld a candel to the Swedish one.
^^^^^^
Oops! "Candle", of course.
> Ditto for "A Man Called Ove", although you gotta give Tom Hanks an E for effort.
--
/~\ Charlie Gibbs | In this world there are
\ / <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> | two kinds of people:
X I'm really at ac.dekanfrus | 1. Those who can extrapolate
/ \ if you read it the right way. | from incomplete data.
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| From | Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-09-01 23:49 +0100 |
| Subject | [OT] Finland, and Russia (was: Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ?) |
| Message-ID | <1177kpe$27v8v$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #91011 |
On 2026-09-01, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > On 01/09/2026 08:47, c186282 wrote: >> On 9/1/26 03:11, rbowman wrote: >>> >>> https://www.discovermagazine.com/finlands-fascinating-genes-1282 >>> >>> Culturally Finland is quite different. Supposedly Tolkein pattern some of >>> the language in the LOTR on Finnish since it was so different from the >>> western Germanic languages. He also drew from the Kalevala, which again >>> differs from the Germanic corpus. >>> >>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kalevala >> >> Again, 50/100 years - Who Knows ? >> > People who do the research that you fail to do. > >> "Finland" WAS Russia for a LONG time. >> > Not really Some time, not long. <https://enwp.org/Grand-Duchy_of_Finland> , and compare with <https://enwp.org/Finland_under_Swedish_rule> >> Right now it seems pretty moderate - but >> that MAY not last. >> > The Finns are a great people They should invade Russia > themselves. They would make a far better fist of running it. The main concern is perhaps keeping Russia and their Molotov "bread baskets" out. -- Nuno Silva
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2026-09-02 02:53 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: [OT] Finland, and Russia (was: Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ?) |
| Message-ID | <nfphdnFtomiU31@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #91040 |
On Tue, 01 Sep 2026 23:49:15 +0100, Nuno Silva wrote: > Some time, not long. > > <https://enwp.org/Grand-Duchy_of_Finland> , and compare with > <https://enwp.org/Finland_under_Swedish_rule> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kalmar_Union History in that part of the world is complicated. Denmark lost real estate along the way which may be why they're touchy about Greenland. The Northern Crusades attempted to Christianize the pagans but finally ran out of steam. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_on_the_Ice Nevsky still is a hero in Russia along with being a Russian Orthodox saint. He saved Russia from the Catholics and Germans. Catherine the Great, who was German, reversed that when she allowed Germans in where they settled along the Volga and other places. Peter the Great had also been friendly as he tried to modernize Russia.
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| From | c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> |
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| Date | 2026-09-02 02:46 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <9i-dnRNXrsbwWwr3nZ2dnZfqn_udnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #91011 |
On 9/1/26 08:56, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > On 01/09/2026 08:47, c186282 wrote: >> On 9/1/26 03:11, rbowman wrote: >>> On Tue, 1 Sep 2026 02:09:57 -0400, c186282 wrote: >>> >>>> Really NOT much genetic diff between Swedes and Finns and today's >>>> Russians. Some shared cultural stuff too ... at least up thru the >>>> "Viking Age" >>> >>> Finns are a geneticist's dream, and not in a good way. >> >> Well, Right NOW, they aren't Rus. >> >> 50/100 years, who knows. > > People who do the research that you fail to do. Oh, I do my research ... but seem to draw some different conclusions from the data than you do. That's a funny thing about Truth - same info, but people tilt it to suit themselves. >>> https://www.discovermagazine.com/finlands-fascinating-genes-1282 >>> >>> Culturally Finland is quite different. Supposedly Tolkein pattern >>> some of >>> the language in the LOTR on Finnish since it was so different from the >>> western Germanic languages. He also drew from the Kalevala, which again >>> differs from the Germanic corpus. >>> >>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kalevala >> >> Again, 50/100 years - Who Knows ? >> > People who do the research that you fail to do. Tisk - again ? >> "Finland" WAS Russia for a LONG time. >> > Not really And not REALLY not. The "border" is arbitrary and large. Russia has largely owned Finland in the past, the Finns eventually kind of push them back. Lots of "mixing" - cultural and genetic - continues. Finns are a merger of older-tyme natives, Swedes and Rus. Finland seems to PREF the Scandi point of view, but not entirely. The Sami/Lapps are kind of interesting. Recent genetic studies say they - well, their more central-Asian ancestors - contributed quite a lot to American 'natives', more than China or Japan. Again some group that kind of split and went east and west. I'd roughly refer to them as the "Siberians". Do research historic Kazakhstan ... it became a huge mixing pot of old cultures just at the end of the ice age. Horse-warrior cultures were a big feature, long before the Mongols. A lot of the "old names" started there, forcibly mixed with the "Iranics" to the south and proto-Turks to the east. Nothing was stable back then. Modern 'western civ' seems to have started in southern Turkey/Mesopotamia about 12,000 years ago. However they weren't the only players. Keep hearing more hints of possible large-ish cultures DURING the ice age ... though evidence is kinda sparse. Note that Egypt/N.Africa, the Levant and beyond were more lush in the past - not so much 'desert' like now. >> Right now it seems pretty moderate - but >> that MAY not last. >> > The Finns are a great people They should invade Russia themselves. They > would make a far better fist of running it. You don't invade Russia. If the climate doesn't getcha the Russians will fight to the death - tolerate insane hardships and losses and STILL go for yer throat.
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-09-01 13:54 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <1176htk$1o1ba$22@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #90987 |
On 01/09/2026 07:09, c186282 wrote:
> Really NOT much genetic diff between Swedes
> and Finns and today's Russians. Some shared
> cultural stuff too ... at least up thru the
> "Viking Age".
Wrong. Russia marks the westerrnmost extent of the Mongol Empire, and
Russia is not just Moscow and St Petersburg (though it might as well be)
Russia extends all the way to the pacific and is split into two main
ethnicities - maybe three - once east of the Urals. The ice dwelling
northern Tundra peoples, the central Mongolian type steppe dwellers and
the chinese descendants in the south east.
Further south it shades into the middle eastern Turkic peoples of the
'stans..
Under the Tsars, who westernized, the serfs remained in their place.
The Russian revolution stirred things up and some of the serfs started
to get power. And now we have the whole political apparatus run by a
fairly primitive man. The heir to Ghengis Khan.
When you deal with Putin, you are not dealing with a sophisticated
Western mind, you are dealing with a ruthless savage and cunning mind
that has no respect for western culture at all - and indeed fears it as
essentially capable of destroying him and his whole apparatus of repression.
The one saving grace is that he is cunning, not really intelligent. Just
like the Donald
--
"Fanaticism consists in redoubling your effort when you have
forgotten your aim."
George Santayana
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2026-09-01 18:17 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <nfoj5bFtomiU19@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #91010 |
On Tue, 1 Sep 2026 13:54:12 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > Wrong. Russia marks the westerrnmost extent of the Mongol Empire, and > Russia is not just Moscow and St Petersburg (though it might as well be) > Russia extends all the way to the pacific and is split into two main > ethnicities - maybe three - once east of the Urals. The ice dwelling > northern Tundra peoples, the central Mongolian type steppe dwellers and > the chinese descendants in the south east. Possibly a better outcome of WWII would have had the Soviets driven east of the Urals. It's a rather large place judging from McGregor's 'The Long Way Around'.
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