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What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-18 01:44 -0400
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-18 01:59 -0400
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-18 06:05 +0000
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? vallor <vallor@vallor.earth> - 2026-08-18 08:10 +0000
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-08-18 11:33 +0100
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-18 22:16 -0400
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-19 03:32 +0000
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-19 14:05 +0100
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-08-19 13:23 +0000
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-19 14:10 +0000
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-19 15:15 +0100
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-19 21:53 +0000
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-08-19 22:54 +0000
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? Anton Antimo <anton@safunu.org> - 2026-08-20 10:31 -0300
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-21 13:10 +0100
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? Anton Antimo <anton@safunu.org> - 2026-08-20 10:30 -0300
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-08-20 18:04 +0000
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-19 14:01 +0000
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-19 15:24 +0100
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-19 22:07 +0000
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-08-22 04:02 +0000
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-22 06:48 +0000
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-08-22 16:15 +0000
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? vallor <vallor@vallor.earth> - 2026-08-23 21:52 +0000
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-24 01:07 +0000
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-24 11:15 +0100
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-24 19:26 +0000
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-25 11:45 +0100
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-25 18:39 +0000
Power lines Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2026-08-25 06:48 -0700
Re: Power lines The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-25 15:10 +0100
Re: Power lines Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2026-08-26 18:04 -0700
Re: Power lines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-27 03:23 -0400
Re: Power lines The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-27 12:09 +0100
Re: Power lines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-27 22:15 -0400
Re: Power lines rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-28 03:21 +0000
Re: Power lines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-28 02:42 -0400
Re: Power lines The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-28 13:15 +0100
Re: Power lines rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-28 18:40 +0000
Re: Power lines The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-29 10:37 +0100
Re: Power lines rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-29 20:13 +0000
Re: Power lines "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2026-08-29 21:28 +0100
Re: Power lines The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-29 23:23 +0100
Re: Power lines rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-29 22:47 +0000
Re: Power lines The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-29 23:20 +0100
Re: Power lines "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-30 13:43 +0200
Re: Power lines Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-08-30 15:49 +0000
Re: Power lines rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-30 18:40 +0000
Re: Power lines "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-30 21:23 +0200
Re: Power lines rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-30 19:36 +0000
Re: Power lines The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-28 13:09 +0100
Re: Power lines The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-28 13:06 +0100
Re: Power lines rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-27 14:19 +0000
Re: Power lines The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-27 15:25 +0100
Re: Power lines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-27 22:24 -0400
Re: Power lines The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-28 13:18 +0100
Re: Power lines Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2026-08-28 05:56 -0700
Re: Power lines The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-28 15:33 +0100
Re: Power lines Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2026-08-28 16:06 +0000
Re: Power lines The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-29 10:30 +0100
Re: Power lines rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-28 18:51 +0000
Re: Power lines The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-29 10:39 +0100
Re: Power lines rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-29 20:26 +0000
Re: Power lines The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-29 23:25 +0100
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-25 01:46 -0400
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-25 11:50 +0100
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-25 18:43 +0000
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-26 04:07 -0400
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? Enoch Powell <e.powell@tutanatu.kom> - 2026-08-27 10:54 -0600
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-27 19:11 +0100
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? Enoch Powell <e.powell@tutanatu.kom> - 2026-08-27 12:57 -0600
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-28 12:55 +0100
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-28 18:25 +0000
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-28 00:27 +0100
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-28 00:45 -0400
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-28 13:02 +0100
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2026-08-28 16:13 +0000
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-29 10:32 +0100
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-29 19:38 +0000
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-29 22:57 +0100
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-30 06:10 +0000
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-27 22:55 -0400
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-25 23:34 -0400
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2026-08-26 04:27 +0000
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-26 08:57 +0100
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2026-08-27 06:30 -0700
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-27 13:57 +0000
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-27 22:22 -0400
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-28 13:16 +0100
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-28 18:36 +0000
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-08-28 19:42 +0100
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-29 10:28 +0100
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-29 20:04 +0000
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-29 23:18 +0100
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-29 22:50 +0000
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-30 18:03 +0100
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-30 18:35 +0000
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-31 00:43 +0100
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? "Stanislav N. aka pztrn" <pztrn@oldproto.invalid> - 2026-08-30 07:55 +0500
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-30 02:08 -0400
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-30 06:30 +0000
[OT] Russian Federation, wars (was: Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ?) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-30 10:04 +0100
Re: [OT] Russian Federation, wars Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-08-30 10:22 +0100
Re: [OT] Russian Federation, wars "Stanislav N. aka pztrn" <pztrn@oldproto.invalid> - 2026-08-30 16:13 +0500
Re: [OT] Russian Federation, wars The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-30 18:12 +0100
Re: [OT] Russian Federation, wars "Stanislav N. aka pztrn" <pztrn@oldproto.invalid> - 2026-08-30 16:47 +0500
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-29 13:58 +0200
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2026-08-29 10:11 -0700
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-29 22:20 +0200
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-29 23:06 +0000
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-30 02:14 -0400
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-30 06:35 +0000
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-30 19:28 +0200
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-29 22:55 +0100
Salmonella (Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ?) Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2026-08-30 09:28 -0700
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-30 19:27 +0200
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-30 18:31 +0000
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-30 21:30 +0200
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-30 19:43 +0000
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-30 21:57 +0200
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-29 22:49 +0100
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-08-27 16:32 +0100
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-27 22:44 -0400
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-08-19 12:57 +0000
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-19 14:03 +0100
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-19 22:24 -0400
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-18 22:07 -0400
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-19 03:42 +0000
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-19 02:14 -0400
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-19 14:13 +0100
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-19 14:14 +0000
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-19 15:27 +0100
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-08-19 16:57 +0000
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-19 14:02 +0100
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-19 13:54 +0000
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-19 22:21 -0400
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2026-08-30 06:10 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <nfhvq9FprcuU68@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #90856 |
On Sat, 29 Aug 2026 22:57:46 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > Thanks for that. It was interesting. I suppose I should have said washes > but for some reason I could only remember the Spanish term There are several names. In the second season of Wolf Creek the survivors head for trees where the think there may be water. It's a wash and dry although they try digging for water. Sometimes that works, usually doesn't. It was filmed in South Australia but might as well have been filmed in south Arizona.
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| From | c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> |
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| Date | 2026-08-27 22:55 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <zX6dnaaqj-cPZQ33nZ2dnZfqn_SdnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #90688 |
On 8/27/26 12:54, Enoch Powell wrote: > On 8/26/2026 2:07 AM, c186282 wrote: >> On 8/25/26 14:43, rbowman wrote: >>> On Tue, 25 Aug 2026 11:50:08 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >>> >>>> On 25/08/2026 06:46, c186282 wrote: >>>>> Face it, the USA is barely set to deal with major >>>>> environmental disasters better than yer average 3rd-world >>>>> shithole. >>>>> Recent EU news suggests that NOBODY is. Shredded housing, shredded >>>>> power distribution, shredded comms ... yer ON YER OWN ! The >>>>> proverbial "safety net" is 90+ percent ILLUSION. >>>> >>>> Cost benefit says you don't prepare for 1000 year events, you just pay >>>> insurance. >>> >>> One year in the '90s Arizona found out what '100 year flood plain' >>> means. >>> Not a good idea to build in Rio Salada even though it hasn't been a >>> rio in >>> recent memory. >> >> Yea, "100 Year" even "1000 Year" don't really >> MEAN much. >> >> So, like it or not, gotta be ready for the >> "1000-year" EVERY year. > > Some amazing video of the flooding in Nepal and Tibet from what > "experts" believe is a collapsed glacier: > > https://www.dailymail.com/news/article-16083765/New-footage-nepal-tibet- > floods-destruction-damage.html THAT was impressive ! Steep hills and what looked to be a 30+ foot high gigantic flush coming down the river bed. China has warned that debris have created a NEW 'dam' that will likely fall apart suddenly and send a similar flush downhill. In any case, those "100-year" or even "1000-year" events were mostly based on data not nearly so old. Guesses. Too optimistic. Insurers and disaster orgs adopted those 'truths' in the 50s/60s. More recent works shows that regional climate shifts all the time, sort of 'cyclic'. There IS NO 'normal' except as a sort of statistical hallucination. Any ONE year can fuck you over really bad. And, with realization of that truth, it's why far more and more every year can't GET/afford any kind of property insurance. This is a serious PROBLEM.
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| From | c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> |
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| Date | 2026-08-25 23:34 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <ZfqcnXRt_dS0whP3nZ2dnZfqnPWdnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #90513 |
On 8/25/26 06:50, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > On 25/08/2026 06:46, c186282 wrote: >> Face it, the USA is barely set to deal with major >> environmental disasters better than yer average >> 3rd-world shithole. Recent EU news suggests that >> NOBODY is. Shredded housing, shredded power >> distribution, shredded comms ... yer ON YER OWN ! >> The proverbial "safety net" is 90+ percent ILLUSION. > > Cost benefit says you don't prepare for 1000 year events, you just pay > insurance. Insurance company lobbyists OBVIOUSLY behind that tact ! :-) Came across an article about a year ago - seems the mayor of Palm Beach Florida - a RICH area - had to drop his property/windstorm insurance because the price had gotten entirely out of hand. His salary would have been well into six figures fer-sure, but ...... Finally, "1000-year Events" seem to be "EVERY-year events" of late ..... note a repeat of last years deadly/destructive floods in Texas. On the plus the el-Nino ought to suppress Atlantic/Gulf hurricanes for a few years. > Weather is very weird this year. Big El Niño. Only two named Atlantic > storms so far. > > Expect the unexpected. Flash Floods in Utah,and forest fires apparently. > > Stock up on cans of pork and beans and fresh water Cans of P&B aren't a bad choice - except I have to keep a low-carb diet. Canned tuna will keep for a LONG time too. Corned beef also. For carb freaks you have plenty of choices - plain old bags of rice and wheat flour and dried beans. Just as the Covid thing was starting I scored kind of the last boxes of dehydrated food and decent MREs. Still have 'em, surely still "edible", Just In Case. MREs remain 'edible' for a long time, but the flavor gets kinda stale after a few years. Still better than the neighbors cat I suspect :-) Oh, avoid armadillo ... recent news sez they're loaded with leprosy. Lots of human xfer cases this year. There's something about the citters body temperature that makes them ideal incubators. Also probs with prion diseases in some herds of deer and moose - NO cure for those - not even sure super-well-done will destroy those mutant proteins. Actually, the whole food-supply chain, commercial and natural, seems kinda FUCKED the past five years. Never seen so many "urgent recall / Sure Death" warnings. The CryptoSHIT disease is the least of it. Fish may still be ok, but you kinda have to live on the ocean to take full advantage. Other odd bit this year - most of the horrible food diseases seem to be in VEGGIES, not meat. So much that I'm beginning to suspect something deliberate.
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| From | Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> |
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| Date | 2026-08-26 04:27 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrn118sqp3.k54.spamtrap42@one.localnet> |
| In reply to | #90583 |
On 2026-08-26, c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote: > > Cans of P&B aren't a bad choice - except I have to > keep a low-carb diet. Canned tuna will keep for > a LONG time too. Corned beef also. For carb freaks > you have plenty of choices - plain old bags of > rice and wheat flour and dried beans. If I'm informed correctly: - wheat flour degrades rather quickly; - unground wheat berries/kernels will last for many years if stored in airtight containers with the oxygen removed by dry ice or manufactured oxygen eliminator packets; - wheat has much more protein and other nutrients than (at least white) rice. Plain wheat kernels can be boiled to make a very nice grown-up cereal. My wife likes milk, honey, cinnamon, and/or butter on hers. I prefer plain milk on mine. If no milk is available, that's okay, too. The recipe can be adjusted for the size of batch being boiled, but the general idea is to combine 3 parts water for 1 part wheat kernels, bring to a boil, turn down the heat and let slow boil or simmer for ~45 minutes, then turn off the heat and let it continue to self-cook for 3-8 hours. A larger pan will hold heat longer, while a smaller pan will cool down more quickly, so cook times can be adjusted to get the preferred consistency. In my experience, boiled wheat can be left at room temperature for up to 24 hours before refrigerating it, but it starts to taste sour after a few days in the fridge if left at room temperature longer than about 24 hours before going in the fridge. If boiling is not possible, wheat can be eaten by putting some kernels in the mouth for a few minutes to let them soften enough for chewing. -- Robert Riches spamtrap42@jacob21819.net (Yes, that is one of my email addresses.)
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-08-26 08:57 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <116m68d$e9qm$4@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #90583 |
On 26/08/2026 04:34, c186282 wrote: > Finally, "1000-year Events" seem to be "EVERY-year > events" of late ..... note a repeat of last years > deadly/destructive floods in Texas. On the plus > the el-Nino ought to suppress Atlantic/Gulf > hurricanes for a few years. Well yes, any random event in a year of sufficiently unique character from a set of a thousand is going to be a 'thousand year event' -- For in reason, all government without the consent of the governed is the very definition of slavery. Jonathan Swift
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| From | Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> |
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| Date | 2026-08-27 06:30 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <116pe5r$1glhn$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #90583 |
On 2026-08-25 20:34, c186282 wrote: > Actually, the whole food-supply chain, commercial > and natural, seems kinda FUCKED the past five years. > Never seen so many "urgent recall / Sure Death" > warnings. The CryptoSHIT disease is the least of it. > Fish may still be ok, but you kinda have to live on > the ocean to take full advantage. > > Other odd bit this year - most of the horrible food > diseases seem to be in VEGGIES, not meat. So much > that I'm beginning to suspect something deliberate. Many of the outbreaks of food-borne illnesses over the years seem to be connected to things being processed too early in the supply chain. Who ever thought it would be a good idea for chain restaurants to bring in lettuce shredded at a plant in Mexico and distribute it across half the United States? Rather than to cut up a head of lettuce in the kitchen? I can see pre-shredded lettuce making a little bit of sense in a small family or a single person's kitchen, but in a restaurant? Likewise in years past, burger chains had large outbreaks of E. Coli linked to ground beef being shipped all over. In my old country, ground meats sold in retail stores had to be ground on the store premises and sold within 24 hours. -- Lars Poulsen - an old geek in Santa Barbara, California
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2026-08-27 13:57 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <nfau1pFprcuU19@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #90681 |
On Thu, 27 Aug 2026 06:30:32 -0700, Lars Poulsen wrote: > Likewise in years past, burger chains had large outbreaks of E. Coli > linked to ground beef being shipped all over. In my old country, ground > meats sold in retail stores had to be ground on the store premises and > sold within 24 hours. I can remember when meat was ground on demand from identifiable pieces of meat. A pound of 'ground round' was a bit different from today's super lean product that is only 15% fat. I draw the line at the 'chubs'.
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| From | c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> |
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| Date | 2026-08-27 22:22 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <zX6dnaWqj-d1bQ33nZ2dnZfqn_SdnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #90681 |
On 8/27/26 09:30, Lars Poulsen wrote: > On 2026-08-25 20:34, c186282 wrote: >> Actually, the whole food-supply chain, commercial >> and natural, seems kinda FUCKED the past five years. >> Never seen so many "urgent recall / Sure Death" >> warnings. The CryptoSHIT disease is the least of it. >> Fish may still be ok, but you kinda have to live on >> the ocean to take full advantage. >> >> Other odd bit this year - most of the horrible food >> diseases seem to be in VEGGIES, not meat. So much >> that I'm beginning to suspect something deliberate. > > Many of the outbreaks of food-borne illnesses over the years seem to be > connected to things being processed too early in the supply chain. Who > ever thought it would be a good idea for chain restaurants to bring in > lettuce shredded at a plant in Mexico and distribute it across half the > United States? Rather than to cut up a head of lettuce in the kitchen? > I can see pre-shredded lettuce making a little bit of sense in a small > family or a single person's kitchen, but in a restaurant? Well ... 'convenience'. > Likewise in years past, burger chains had large outbreaks of E. Coli > linked to ground beef being shipped all over. In my old country, ground > meats sold in retail stores had to be ground on the store premises and > sold within 24 hours. Ground meats did have a rather bad rep. The odd bit is THIS year the reports are almost ALL veggies. Salmonella in frozen blueberries. Eh ?
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-08-28 13:16 +0100 |
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| In reply to | #90713 |
On 28/08/2026 03:22, c186282 wrote: > Salmonella in frozen blueberries. Eh ? Eggs reared under EU rather than UK rules -- "What do you think about Gay Marriage?" "I don't." "Don't what?" "Think about Gay Marriage."
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2026-08-28 18:36 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <nfe2pgFprcuU38@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #90756 |
On Fri, 28 Aug 2026 13:16:37 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > On 28/08/2026 03:22, c186282 wrote: >> Salmonella in frozen blueberries. Eh ? > > Eggs reared under EU rather than UK rules https://www.rt.com/news/644756-uk-eggs-salmonella-ukraine/ The original Telegraph article requires a login so I can't verify. It seems odd since I've read other articles that say the Ukraine is virtually chicken free. https://www.foodagribusiness.world/poultry/russia-destroys-ukraines- poultry-industry I don't eat much chicken but I did grill up some chicken thighs last night. I made sure they were well done.
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| From | Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> |
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| Date | 2026-08-28 19:42 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <nfe30tFm51qU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #90774 |
rbowman wrote: > The original Telegraph article requires a login so I can't verify. It > seems odd since I've read other articles that say the Ukraine is virtually > chicken free. It didn't paywall me, but usually disabling javascript is all that's needed for the Telegraph <https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-health/science-and-disease/great-british-fry-up-implicated-in-salmonella-outbreak/>
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-08-29 10:28 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <116u8nr$3345j$9@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #90774 |
On 28/08/2026 19:36, rbowman wrote: > On Fri, 28 Aug 2026 13:16:37 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > >> On 28/08/2026 03:22, c186282 wrote: >>> Salmonella in frozen blueberries. Eh ? >> >> Eggs reared under EU rather than UK rules > > https://www.rt.com/news/644756-uk-eggs-salmonella-ukraine/ > > The original Telegraph article requires a login so I can't verify. Disable JS after the 'login' comes up > It > seems odd since I've read other articles that say the Ukraine is virtually > chicken free. > RT is Russian state sponsored propaganda. I didn't think you weren't aware of that. AFAIK no one imports eggs from Ukraine. Its outside the EU so they would be subject to tariffs and meeting EU standards Oh. The torygraph says we import MOST of our [imported] eggs from Ukraine. And so does the EU. Color me confused. Back in the day a chicken farmer AND MEP in the EU 'parliament' told me that the problem was that newly admitted nations like Romania and Bulgaria were given a free pass to help them get their hygiene in order, and that waiver was never rescinded. > https://www.foodagribusiness.world/poultry/russia-destroys-ukraines- > poultry-industry > > I don't eat much chicken but I did grill up some chicken thighs last > night. I made sure they were well done. UK reared chicken and eggs are pretty safe. I am not so poor I have to buy cheap -- Labour - a bunch of rich people convincing poor people to vote for rich people by telling poor people that "other" rich people are the reason they are poor. Peter Thompson
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2026-08-29 20:04 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <nfgsafFprcuU53@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #90812 |
On Sat, 29 Aug 2026 10:28:27 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > RT is Russian state sponsored propaganda. I didn't think you weren't > aware of that. Certainly I'm aware of that, just as I'm aware much of the MSM is either government or NGO propaganda. Compare the reports taking in consideration the biases and you may glimpse the real story. For example, while some of the articles became more balanced today's hot headline was "Russian strike near Kyiv kills 37, in one of the year's deadliest attacks" https://www.npr.org/2026/08/29/nx-s1-5948714/russian-strike-kyiv Dastardly attack on civilians! As the story got fleshed out it seems the Russians had hit a drone depot that was next to a home for elderly citizens. It's not clear how many of the personnel working in the depot were killed but as might be expected the facility, chock full of high explosives meant for Russian, blew up. Even Zelensky held a press conference promising to hunt down whoever made such a bad decision. It's not the first time civilians have been killed when an attack on a legitimate military target in a residential neighborhood wound up with dead civilians. You should be familiar with the process. The air attacks on Coventry's heavy industry did damage to the countryside, in part because of the success of the plan to decoy the bombers from the factories. That gave Lindemann and Bomber Harris the latitude to specifically bomb residential areas, dehousing, since it was easier to get rid of the civilian workforce than target heavily defended legitimate sites.
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-08-29 23:18 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <116vlrh$3j6fu$7@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #90838 |
On 29/08/2026 21:04, rbowman wrote: > On Sat, 29 Aug 2026 10:28:27 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > >> RT is Russian state sponsored propaganda. I didn't think you weren't >> aware of that. > > Certainly I'm aware of that, just as I'm aware much of the MSM is either > government or NGO propaganda. Compare the reports taking in consideration > the biases and you may glimpse the real story. > Most UK media doesn't report at all, or only reports pro Russian stuff. Its always about how well Russia is doing, and never about the fact that Russia is pretty much on the point of total collapse, threatening nuclear strikes on Britain. Probably the two best commentators are - surprisingly - Americans . Jake Broe and Paul Warburg on you tube. The Ukra8inin commentators are unsurprisingly more partisan > For example, while some of the articles became more balanced today's hot > headline was > > "Russian strike near Kyiv kills 37, in one of the year's deadliest > attacks" > > https://www.npr.org/2026/08/29/nx-s1-5948714/russian-strike-kyiv > > Dastardly attack on civilians! As the story got fleshed out it seems the > Russians had hit a drone depot that was next to a home for elderly > citizens. It's not clear how many of the personnel working in the depot > were killed but as might be expected the facility, chock full of high > explosives meant for Russian, blew up. > I think that is not actually quite correct, buy I haven't fact checked it. The fact does remain that Russia bombs Ukraine indiscriminately with no regard for civilian life. Ukraine is somewhat more circumspect, but it's war and shit inevitably happens > Even Zelensky held a press conference promising to hunt down whoever made > such a bad decision. It's not the first time civilians have been killed > when an attack on a legitimate military target in a residential > neighborhood wound up with dead civilians. > The problem is that the Russian kit is simply not accurate, They may claim they are after a military target in the Donbas but it overshot and landed on a block of flats in Kyiv. I personally don't believe them. Its pure terrorism. > You should be familiar with the process. The air attacks on Coventry's > heavy industry did damage to the countryside, in part because of the > success of the plan to decoy the bombers from the factories. That gave > Lindemann and Bomber Harris the latitude to specifically bomb residential > areas, dehousing, since it was easier to get rid of the civilian workforce > than target heavily defended legitimate sites. > Accuracy in WWII was to the nearest two miles. Ukrainian drones are hitting individual aircraft on runways and individual distillation towers in oil plants and individual Wildberry warehouses. Usually if there is any collateral damage it's because the drones were disabled first and debris fell on civilian areas. Russia no longer has access to Starlink, but Ukraine does. Putin is on the edge of being deposed. His 'elections' are due. He is desperate to be able to say 'NATO attacked us 'and we are winning in Ukraine'. But the banks have closed their doors and people cannot withdraw cash, there is no gasoline West of the Urals and not much diesel, 50% of the distilleries are out of action and nearly all Wildberries warehouses are gone. Putin is hitting civilians because his armaments are mostly crap. The ones that get through - the supersonic ballistic missiles - are simply not very accurate, and the subsonic drones are mostly being shot down, So they are going to miss. Putin doesn't care. He is a war criminal already and a few more civilian lives are not going to change that. Ukrainians at least want to be able to appear to be civilised after the war is over. -- It’s easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled. Mark Twain
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2026-08-29 22:50 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <nfh626FprcuU66@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #90858 |
On Sat, 29 Aug 2026 23:18:25 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > Most UK media doesn't report at all, or only reports pro Russian stuff. You obviously have found the wellspring of pro Ukrainian stuff.
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-08-30 18:03 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <1171nog$7umf$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #90868 |
On 29/08/2026 23:50, rbowman wrote: > On Sat, 29 Aug 2026 23:18:25 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > >> Most UK media doesn't report at all, or only reports pro Russian stuff. > > You obviously have found the wellspring of pro Ukrainian stuff. Well no, just not obviously pro Russian stuff -- Of what good are dead warriors? … Warriors are those who desire battle more than peace. Those who seek battle despite peace. Those who thump their spears on the ground and talk of honor. Those who leap high the battle dance and dream of glory … The good of dead warriors, Mother, is that they are dead. Sheri S Tepper: The Awakeners.
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2026-08-30 18:35 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <nfjbflFprcuU73@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #90912 |
On Sun, 30 Aug 2026 18:03:12 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > On 29/08/2026 23:50, rbowman wrote: >> On Sat, 29 Aug 2026 23:18:25 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >> >>> Most UK media doesn't report at all, or only reports pro Russian >>> stuff. >> >> You obviously have found the wellspring of pro Ukrainian stuff. > > Well no, just not obviously pro Russian stuff The balanced view would be to let them solve their own problems that have been going on since the Swedes invaded and became Rus.
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-08-31 00:43 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <1172f66$fo66$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #90917 |
On 30/08/2026 19:35, rbowman wrote: > On Sun, 30 Aug 2026 18:03:12 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > >> On 29/08/2026 23:50, rbowman wrote: >>> On Sat, 29 Aug 2026 23:18:25 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >>> >>>> Most UK media doesn't report at all, or only reports pro Russian >>>> stuff. >>> >>> You obviously have found the wellspring of pro Ukrainian stuff. >> >> Well no, just not obviously pro Russian stuff > > The balanced view would be to let them solve their own problems that have > been going on since the Swedes invaded and became Rus. If you wanted that you should not have guaranteed the Ukrainians defence against Russia when they gave up all their nuclear weapons. But we have come to understand that America never makes promises it intends to keep. -- If I had all the money I've spent on drink... ..I'd spend it on drink. Sir Henry (at Rawlinson's End)
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| From | "Stanislav N. aka pztrn" <pztrn@oldproto.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-08-30 07:55 +0500 |
| Message-ID | <117063i$uv0v$1@inn.news.oldproto.ru> |
| In reply to | #90858 |
30.08.2026 03:18, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > On 29/08/2026 21:04, rbowman wrote: >> On Sat, 29 Aug 2026 10:28:27 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >> >>> RT is Russian state sponsored propaganda. I didn't think you weren't >>> aware of that. >> >> Certainly I'm aware of that, just as I'm aware much of the MSM is either >> government or NGO propaganda. Compare the reports taking in consideration >> the biases and you may glimpse the real story. >> > Most UK media doesn't report at all, or only reports pro Russian stuff. > > Its always about how well Russia is doing, and never about the fact that Russia is pretty much on the point of total collapse, threatening nuclear strikes on Britain. Hello from Russia. It is not near 1980s, when USSR where near point of total collapse. The only thing that is happening here, besides Wildberries users (both sellers and buyers) whining is I have to wait for an hour at gasoline station to refuel my car with petrol. >> For example, while some of the articles became more balanced today's hot >> headline was >> >> "Russian strike near Kyiv kills 37, in one of the year's deadliest >> attacks" >> >> https://www.npr.org/2026/08/29/nx-s1-5948714/russian-strike-kyiv >> >> Dastardly attack on civilians! As the story got fleshed out it seems the >> Russians had hit a drone depot that was next to a home for elderly >> citizens. It's not clear how many of the personnel working in the depot >> were killed but as might be expected the facility, chock full of high >> explosives meant for Russian, blew up. >> > I think that is not actually quite correct, buy I haven't fact checked it. > > The fact does remain that Russia bombs Ukraine indiscriminately with no regard for civilian life. > > Ukraine is somewhat more circumspect, but it's war and shit inevitably happens Circumspect? They tried to bomb ME with drone on 6 aug 2024 near Sudzha, when I was evacuating my mother from her house. They surely know that while Volkswagen Polo is a civilian car, I saw their recon drones for last two days near her house flying here and there. Gladly, my car was in perfect condition and I was able to push to 140+kmh speed to evade that drone, which suddenly "reselected" it's target and bombed... Harvester! Such a military target! I was right near wheat field and saw it by my own eyes, between Dolgie Budy and Bushmeno. >> Even Zelensky held a press conference promising to hunt down whoever made >> such a bad decision. It's not the first time civilians have been killed >> when an attack on a legitimate military target in a residential >> neighborhood wound up with dead civilians. >> > The problem is that the Russian kit is simply not accurate, They may claim they are after a military target in the Donbas but it overshot and landed on a block of flats in Kyiv. > I personally don't believe them. Its pure terrorism. And then you'll look at pictures and MOST casualties wearing military form. Or even "better" - Ukraine tries to intercept drone/rocket, but Patriot, built 25+ years before, made a strike in a civilian house. Plenty of reports about Russia hitting civilian building with Iskander/Oreshnik/you_name_it, but photos images much less powerful weapon, like anti-airborne missiles. >> You should be familiar with the process. The air attacks on Coventry's >> heavy industry did damage to the countryside, in part because of the >> success of the plan to decoy the bombers from the factories. That gave >> Lindemann and Bomber Harris the latitude to specifically bomb residential >> areas, dehousing, since it was easier to get rid of the civilian workforce >> than target heavily defended legitimate sites. >> > Accuracy in WWII was to the nearest two miles. Ukrainian drones are hitting individual aircraft on runways and individual distillation towers in oil plants and individual Wildberry warehouses. > > Usually if there is any collateral damage it's because the drones were disabled first and debris fell on civilian areas. > > Russia no longer has access to Starlink, but Ukraine does. Russia never officially has access to Starlink. Local laws requires satellites to transmit signals via stations on ground. And yet how da hell UA hitting civilian buildings like houses and shops (not a big one like Lenta, Ashan or other, something small like SELPO)? They has access to Starlink, high-speed internet connection, they should clearly saw it isn't a military target! > Putin is on the edge of being deposed. His 'elections' are due. He is desperate to be able to say 'NATO attacked us 'and we are winning in Ukraine'. But the banks have closed their doors and people cannot withdraw cash, there is no gasoline West of the Urals and not much diesel, 50% of the distilleries are out of action and nearly all Wildberries warehouses are gone. > Hey, stop being lying. This is just plain wrong propaganda: 1. Plenty of Diesel on every gasoline station, only petroleum (a.k.a. AI-92/AI-95) is a temporary problem. 2. Banks are working, was in Sberbank on Thursday because my MIR card expired. ATMs working fine and, as always, plenty of people near Sberbank ones withdrawing cash and paying mortrages/socials. 2.1. Also, we have MIR Pay now, so Google Pay/Apple Pay disablement isn't a problem at all. 2.2. Also, all banks implemented a way to pay via QR code. 3. Wildberries still delivering without problems, but I prefer OZON. Plenty of their (Wildberries) cars on roads, and big warehouse near my city is working fine. 4. And I can pay for everything everywhere with bank card/MIR Pay/QR code. In Ashan, Lenta or small SELPO shop in 150km from Ekaterinburg. > Putin is hitting civilians because his armaments are mostly crap. The ones that get through - the supersonic ballistic missiles - are simply not very accurate, and the subsonic drones are mostly being shot down, So they are going to miss. Putin doesn't care. He is a war criminal already and a few more civilian lives are not going to change that. > > Ukrainians at least want to be able to appear to be civilised after the war is over. Try to fact-check not only using UK/UA/USA sites. You probably will be very surprised. And also, as always, truth is somewhere between. And WHY this thread still in comp.os.linux.*? Seriously, move it to politics related group. -- WBR, Stanislav Nikitin a.k.a. pztrn.
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| From | c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> |
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| Date | 2026-08-30 02:08 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <guqcnR4qMryRVA73nZ2dnZfqnPqdnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #90878 |
On 8/29/26 22:55, Stanislav N. aka pztrn wrote: > 30.08.2026 03:18, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >> On 29/08/2026 21:04, rbowman wrote: >>> On Sat, 29 Aug 2026 10:28:27 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >>> >>>> RT is Russian state sponsored propaganda. I didn't think you weren't >>>> aware of that. >>> >>> Certainly I'm aware of that, just as I'm aware much of the MSM is either >>> government or NGO propaganda. Compare the reports taking in >>> consideration >>> the biases and you may glimpse the real story. >>> >> Most UK media doesn't report at all, or only reports pro Russian stuff. >> >> Its always about how well Russia is doing, and never about the fact >> that Russia is pretty much on the point of total collapse, threatening >> nuclear strikes on Britain. > > Hello from Russia. > > It is not near 1980s, when USSR where near point of total collapse. The > only thing that is happening here, besides Wildberries users (both > sellers and buyers) whining is I have to wait for an hour at gasoline > station to refuel my car with petrol. Well, stop invading other countries and things will improve.
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