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  What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-18 01:44 -0400
    Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-18 01:59 -0400
    Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-18 06:05 +0000
      Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? vallor <vallor@vallor.earth> - 2026-08-18 08:10 +0000
        Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-08-18 11:33 +0100
        Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-18 22:16 -0400
          Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-19 03:32 +0000
            Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-19 14:05 +0100
              Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-08-19 13:23 +0000
                Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-19 14:10 +0000
                Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-19 15:15 +0100
                  Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-19 21:53 +0000
                    Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-08-19 22:54 +0000
                      Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? Anton Antimo <anton@safunu.org> - 2026-08-20 10:31 -0300
                        Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-21 13:10 +0100
                    Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? Anton Antimo <anton@safunu.org> - 2026-08-20 10:30 -0300
                      Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-08-20 18:04 +0000
              Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-19 14:01 +0000
                Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-19 15:24 +0100
                  Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-19 22:07 +0000
                  Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-08-22 04:02 +0000
                    Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-22 06:48 +0000
                      Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-08-22 16:15 +0000
                        Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? vallor <vallor@vallor.earth> - 2026-08-23 21:52 +0000
                          Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-24 01:07 +0000
                            Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-24 11:15 +0100
                              Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-24 19:26 +0000
                                Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-25 11:45 +0100
                                  Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-25 18:39 +0000
                                Power lines Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2026-08-25 06:48 -0700
                                  Re: Power lines The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-25 15:10 +0100
                                    Re: Power lines Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2026-08-26 18:04 -0700
                                      Re: Power lines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-27 03:23 -0400
                                        Re: Power lines The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-27 12:09 +0100
                                          Re: Power lines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-27 22:15 -0400
                                            Re: Power lines rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-28 03:21 +0000
                                              Re: Power lines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-28 02:42 -0400
                                        Re: Power lines rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-27 14:19 +0000
                                          Re: Power lines The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-27 15:25 +0100
                                          Re: Power lines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-27 22:24 -0400
                              Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-25 01:46 -0400
                                Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-25 11:50 +0100
                                  Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-25 18:43 +0000
                                    Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-26 04:07 -0400
                                      Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? Enoch Powell <e.powell@tutanatu.kom> - 2026-08-27 10:54 -0600
                                        Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-27 19:11 +0100
                                          Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? Enoch Powell <e.powell@tutanatu.kom> - 2026-08-27 12:57 -0600
                                          Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-28 00:27 +0100
                                            Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-28 00:45 -0400
                                        Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-27 22:55 -0400
                                  Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-25 23:34 -0400
                                    Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2026-08-26 04:27 +0000
                                    Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-26 08:57 +0100
                                    Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2026-08-27 06:30 -0700
                                      Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-27 13:57 +0000
                                      Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-27 22:22 -0400
                                Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-08-27 16:32 +0100
                                  Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-27 22:44 -0400
          Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-08-19 12:57 +0000
          Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-19 14:03 +0100
            Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-19 22:24 -0400
      Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-18 22:07 -0400
        Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-19 03:42 +0000
          Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-19 02:14 -0400
          Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-19 14:13 +0100
            Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-19 14:14 +0000
              Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-19 15:27 +0100
                Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-08-19 16:57 +0000
        Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-19 14:02 +0100
          Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-19 13:54 +0000
          Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-19 22:21 -0400

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#90487

On 8/24/26 06:15, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> On 24/08/2026 02:07, rbowman wrote:
>> On Sun, 23 Aug 2026 21:52:35 +0000, vallor wrote:
>>
>>> At Sat, 22 Aug 2026 16:15:58 -0000 (UTC), Rich <rich@example.invalid>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
>>>>> On Sat, 22 Aug 2026 04:02:28 -0000 (UTC), Rich wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> The problem there is often the need for "friendly neighbours".  With
>>>>>> private property rights what they are in the USA, "fibreing up your
>>>>>> own area" can become a morass of needing multitudes of legal
>>>>>> easements in order to run the "Ditch Witch" around fibreing up the
>>>>>> area.  That, or the "Ditch Witch" is restricted to burying only
>>>>>> alongside the state/county roads, which can still leave the terminus
>>>>>> of that fibre a good distance from the homes that are on the other
>>>>>> ends of all the private roads that turn off the few state or county
>>>>>> roads.
>>>>>
>>>>> As an added bonus an irrigation ditch runs along the county road with
>>>>> many homes on the far side. It passes under the driveways in a
>>>>> culvert. That would add more expense.
>>>>
>>>> Yep, indeed.  And likely three different additional permits, five
>>>> seperate inspections, and an environmental impact statement regarding
>>>> impacts on the water in the ditch from Ditch Witching under the
>>>> irrigation ditch to wire up the homes.
>>>
>>> FFS, the way to do this is aerial fiber on power poles.
>>>
>>> (Power poles go everywhere.)
>>
>> That would seem feasible but they certainly do a lot of digging to lay
>> fiber, at least the thick orange trunk lines.
>>
> 
> The trouble with overhead anything is that it is extremely vulnerable to 
> weather.
> Although my part of the local 11kV ring is underground other parts are 
> not and tree damage to the lines results in more than a few power cuts 
> every year.
> 
> It actually costs more than undergrounding would, but there is no 
> capitall budget to fix it.

   I live where there can be severe storms. Overhead lines
   get shredded, sometimes the poles too. Underground, well,
   that's a Major Investment by the telcoms. Cable net, it
   will get shredded too and they're even slower than the
   telcoms to fix shit.

   DID buy a decent over-air HDTV antenna - can get about
   25 stations (most SHIT) but CAN get 'em.

   Was in a place where there were TWO hurricanes within
   about three weeks - a cat-2 and then a cat-3. Did HUGE
   long-lasting damage. Couldn't even buy gasoline for
   about three weeks unless you paid cash. Others have
   experienced even worse - the more recent debacle in
   the Carolina's and vicinity a good example of near
   total infrastructure collapse.

   Got LOTS of weird shit under my old property - so
   directional drilling might do major damage.

   In THEORY, the best fixes now are StarLink and
   5-G internet. The phone towers can/will go down,
   but they will be amongst the first things fixed.

   StarLink - been looking at it quite a bit - but
   in my case I'd have to build a custom frame/holder
   from some kind of bad-ass wood and solid asym 4-point
   mount to a concrete wall (envision a kinda shallow
   "wedge" setup).

   No 'perfect' solutions.

   Hmmmm ... remember people got roof repair started
   after hurricane #1 ... then it was all ripped away
   by hurricane #2 - and their insurance companies
   suddenly would not pay. GoogleEarth showed large
   quantities of "blue tarp" roofs there for YEARS :-)

   BUT, Laura Bush DID show up to distribute water
   bottles and MREs !

   MREs ... you CAN eat 'em, but really don't WANNA :-)

   Mil MRE's are SUPER high SALT too - meant for 20
   year old soldiers on aggressive maneuvers. If you
   are over 60 that much salt might put you in the
   hospital with kidney or heart failure.

   (some of the 3rd party stuff, "Mountain House" and
   such, IS better - MREs and/or dehydrated. Bought
   right when the Covid disaster was starting, Just
   In Case. Probably still "edible", but very STALE)

   Face it, the USA is barely set to deal with major
   environmental disasters better than yer average
   3rd-world shithole. Recent EU news suggests that
   NOBODY is. Shredded housing, shredded power
   distribution, shredded comms ... yer ON YER OWN !
   The proverbial "safety net" is 90+ percent ILLUSION.

   Oh, weirdest experience from those double hurricanes,
   driving down main/secondary roads. 10-foot high piles
   of EVERYTHING in people's houses taken to the roadside,
   like driving in a surreal tunnel. Storms, quakes, fires,
   CAN ruin EVERYTHING in a moment and mostly YOU are gonna
   be on the hook for it all.

   Now, most in Florida, the Carolina's, Texas, are having
   to DROP storm insurance. TOO TOO expensive. Saw in the
   news that even the MAYOR of Palm Beach FL dropped his !
   The 1950s/60s insurance equation is no good anymore.
   Back then everything was GROWTH - now, at best, it's
   just "holding ground" - usually worse.

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#90513

On 25/08/2026 06:46, c186282 wrote:
> Face it, the USA is barely set to deal with major
>    environmental disasters better than yer average
>    3rd-world shithole. Recent EU news suggests that
>    NOBODY is. Shredded housing, shredded power
>    distribution, shredded comms ... yer ON YER OWN !
>    The proverbial "safety net" is 90+ percent ILLUSION.

Cost benefit says you don't prepare for 1000 year events, you just pay 
insurance.
Weather is very weird this year. Big El Niño. Only two named Atlantic 
storms so far.

Expect the unexpected. Flash Floods in Utah,and forest fires apparently.

Stock up on cans of pork and beans and fresh water

-- 
"I am inclined to tell the truth and dislike people who lie consistently.
This makes me unfit for the company of people of a Left persuasion, and 
all women"

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#90555

On Tue, 25 Aug 2026 11:50:08 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

> On 25/08/2026 06:46, c186282 wrote:
>> Face it, the USA is barely set to deal with major
>>    environmental disasters better than yer average 3rd-world shithole.
>>    Recent EU news suggests that NOBODY is. Shredded housing, shredded
>>    power distribution, shredded comms ... yer ON YER OWN ! The
>>    proverbial "safety net" is 90+ percent ILLUSION.
> 
> Cost benefit says you don't prepare for 1000 year events, you just pay
> insurance.

One year in the '90s Arizona found out what '100 year flood plain' means. 
Not a good idea to build in Rio Salada even though it hasn't been a rio in 
recent memory.

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#90612

On 8/25/26 14:43, rbowman wrote:
> On Tue, 25 Aug 2026 11:50:08 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> 
>> On 25/08/2026 06:46, c186282 wrote:
>>> Face it, the USA is barely set to deal with major
>>>     environmental disasters better than yer average 3rd-world shithole.
>>>     Recent EU news suggests that NOBODY is. Shredded housing, shredded
>>>     power distribution, shredded comms ... yer ON YER OWN ! The
>>>     proverbial "safety net" is 90+ percent ILLUSION.
>>
>> Cost benefit says you don't prepare for 1000 year events, you just pay
>> insurance.
> 
> One year in the '90s Arizona found out what '100 year flood plain' means.
> Not a good idea to build in Rio Salada even though it hasn't been a rio in
> recent memory.

   Yea, "100 Year" even "1000 Year" don't really
   MEAN much.

   So, like it or not, gotta be ready for the
   "1000-year" EVERY year.

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#90688

On 8/26/2026 2:07 AM, c186282 wrote:
> On 8/25/26 14:43, rbowman wrote:
>> On Tue, 25 Aug 2026 11:50:08 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>
>>> On 25/08/2026 06:46, c186282 wrote:
>>>> Face it, the USA is barely set to deal with major
>>>>     environmental disasters better than yer average 3rd-world shithole.
>>>>     Recent EU news suggests that NOBODY is. Shredded housing, shredded
>>>>     power distribution, shredded comms ... yer ON YER OWN ! The
>>>>     proverbial "safety net" is 90+ percent ILLUSION.
>>>
>>> Cost benefit says you don't prepare for 1000 year events, you just pay
>>> insurance.
>>
>> One year in the '90s Arizona found out what '100 year flood plain' means.
>> Not a good idea to build in Rio Salada even though it hasn't been a 
>> rio in
>> recent memory.
> 
>    Yea, "100 Year" even "1000 Year" don't really
>    MEAN much.
> 
>    So, like it or not, gotta be ready for the
>    "1000-year" EVERY year.

Some amazing video of the flooding in Nepal and Tibet from what 
"experts" believe is a collapsed glacier:

https://www.dailymail.com/news/article-16083765/New-footage-nepal-tibet-floods-destruction-damage.html

-- 
Israel’s Ben Gvir Calls For Nightly Kill Quota In Gaza

Ben Gvir: “There are people there who are not alive. They don’t need to
live. They are not people. I’m doing them a favor by calling them people.”

https://x.com/RyanRozbiani/status/2088695627702002109

https://www.globalgulag.us

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#90690

On 27/08/2026 17:54, Enoch Powell wrote:
> Some amazing video of the flooding in Nepal and Tibet from what 
> "experts" believe is a collapsed glacier:
> 
> https://www.dailymail.com/news/article-16083765/New-footage-nepal-tibet-floods-destruction-damage.html

Its all over you tube.
Horrendous.
Yes, the consensus is a chunk of ice water rocks and sediment fell into 
the valley causing a 6,4 level 'earthquake' and that overwhelmed a 
series of dams and the water behind them.

Dam failure - these were hydro dams - is massively dangerous.
And yet people prefer it to nuclear power stations...

-- 
“The fundamental cause of the trouble in the modern world today is that 
the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt."

    - Bertrand Russell

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#90692

On 8/27/2026 12:11 PM, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> On 27/08/2026 17:54, Enoch Powell wrote:
>> Some amazing video of the flooding in Nepal and Tibet from what 
>> "experts" believe is a collapsed glacier:
>>
>> https://www.dailymail.com/news/article-16083765/New-footage-nepal- 
>> tibet-floods-destruction-damage.html
> 
> Its all over you tube.
> Horrendous.
> Yes, the consensus is a chunk of ice water rocks and sediment fell into 
> the valley causing a 6,4 level 'earthquake' and that overwhelmed a 
> series of dams and the water behind them.
> 
> Dam failure - these were hydro dams - is massively dangerous.
> And yet people prefer it to nuclear power stations...
> 

One can surmise that the collapsed glacier is a preview of things to 
come. Billions of people, fish and animals depend on glacier fed rivers. 
When "climate change" causes the glaciers to melt, billions of 
"refugees" will be heading to Russia, Europe and North America from 
water starved areas of the planet, bringing chaos and ruin to the areas 
they flee too.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2026/08/revealed-here-is-what-caused-apocalyptic-nepal-floods/

-- 
Israel’s Ben Gvir Calls For Nightly Kill Quota In Gaza

Ben Gvir: “There are people there who are not alive. They don’t need to
live. They are not people. I’m doing them a favor by calling them people.”

https://x.com/RyanRozbiani/status/2088695627702002109

https://www.globalgulag.us

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#90701

On 2026-08-27, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

> On 27/08/2026 17:54, Enoch Powell wrote:
>> Some amazing video of the flooding in Nepal and Tibet from what
>> "experts" believe is a collapsed glacier:
>>
>> https://www.dailymail.com/news/article-16083765/New-footage-nepal-tibet-floods-destruction-damage.html
>
> Its all over you tube.
> Horrendous.
> Yes, the consensus is a chunk of ice water rocks and sediment fell
> into the valley causing a 6,4 level 'earthquake' and that overwhelmed
> a series of dams and the water behind them.
>
> Dam failure - these were hydro dams - is massively dangerous.
> And yet people prefer it to nuclear power stations...

If anything dams may have softened the impact for a while, and even if a
short while that'd probably still be immensely valuable.

Other than that, if it's beyond dam capacity, there'd be a flood, dam or
no dam...

-- 
Nuno Silva

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#90726

On 8/27/26 19:27, Nuno Silva wrote:
> On 2026-08-27, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> 
>> On 27/08/2026 17:54, Enoch Powell wrote:
>>> Some amazing video of the flooding in Nepal and Tibet from what
>>> "experts" believe is a collapsed glacier:
>>>
>>> https://www.dailymail.com/news/article-16083765/New-footage-nepal-tibet-floods-destruction-damage.html
>>
>> Its all over you tube.
>> Horrendous.
>> Yes, the consensus is a chunk of ice water rocks and sediment fell
>> into the valley causing a 6,4 level 'earthquake' and that overwhelmed
>> a series of dams and the water behind them.
>>
>> Dam failure - these were hydro dams - is massively dangerous.
>> And yet people prefer it to nuclear power stations...
> 
> If anything dams may have softened the impact for a while, and even if a
> short while that'd probably still be immensely valuable.
> 
> Other than that, if it's beyond dam capacity, there'd be a flood, dam or
> no dam...

   Hydro dams CAN be built right - but, due to the expense,
   rarely ARE done right. Little leaks turn into bigger leaks
   and then BOOM/FLUSH !

   USA ... land ownership and environmental regs have limited
   the use of hydro for quite awhile. Most good stuff was put
   in before WW2.

   HAVE been interested in 'low-head hydro' ... computers can
   now design impellers/wheels well optimized for low-pressure/
   high-volume. Theoretically the Mississippi river could be
   heavily farmed as near-zero-head hydroelectric ... basically
   'raft farms' of kinda traditional-looking paddle-wheel type
   stuff. The lower efficiency can be made up through sheer
   VOLUME, cheapness and expansible modularity of the 'farms'.

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#90717

On 8/27/26 12:54, Enoch Powell wrote:
> On 8/26/2026 2:07 AM, c186282 wrote:
>> On 8/25/26 14:43, rbowman wrote:
>>> On Tue, 25 Aug 2026 11:50:08 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 25/08/2026 06:46, c186282 wrote:
>>>>> Face it, the USA is barely set to deal with major
>>>>>     environmental disasters better than yer average 3rd-world 
>>>>> shithole.
>>>>>     Recent EU news suggests that NOBODY is. Shredded housing, shredded
>>>>>     power distribution, shredded comms ... yer ON YER OWN ! The
>>>>>     proverbial "safety net" is 90+ percent ILLUSION.
>>>>
>>>> Cost benefit says you don't prepare for 1000 year events, you just pay
>>>> insurance.
>>>
>>> One year in the '90s Arizona found out what '100 year flood plain' 
>>> means.
>>> Not a good idea to build in Rio Salada even though it hasn't been a 
>>> rio in
>>> recent memory.
>>
>>    Yea, "100 Year" even "1000 Year" don't really
>>    MEAN much.
>>
>>    So, like it or not, gotta be ready for the
>>    "1000-year" EVERY year.
> 
> Some amazing video of the flooding in Nepal and Tibet from what 
> "experts" believe is a collapsed glacier:
> 
> https://www.dailymail.com/news/article-16083765/New-footage-nepal-tibet- 
> floods-destruction-damage.html

   THAT was impressive ! Steep hills and what looked to
   be a 30+ foot high gigantic flush coming down the
   river bed. China has warned that debris have created
   a NEW 'dam' that will likely fall apart suddenly and
   send a similar flush downhill.

   In any case, those "100-year" or even "1000-year" events
   were mostly based on data not nearly so old. Guesses.
   Too optimistic. Insurers and disaster orgs adopted those
   'truths' in the 50s/60s.

   More recent works shows that regional climate shifts
   all the time, sort of 'cyclic'. There IS NO 'normal'
   except as a sort of statistical hallucination. Any ONE
   year can fuck you over really bad.

   And, with realization of that truth, it's why far more
   and more every year can't GET/afford any kind of
   property insurance. This is a serious PROBLEM.

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#90583

On 8/25/26 06:50, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> On 25/08/2026 06:46, c186282 wrote:
>> Face it, the USA is barely set to deal with major
>>    environmental disasters better than yer average
>>    3rd-world shithole. Recent EU news suggests that
>>    NOBODY is. Shredded housing, shredded power
>>    distribution, shredded comms ... yer ON YER OWN !
>>    The proverbial "safety net" is 90+ percent ILLUSION.
> 
> Cost benefit says you don't prepare for 1000 year events, you just pay 
> insurance.

   Insurance company lobbyists OBVIOUSLY behind that tact ! :-)

   Came across an article about a year ago - seems the mayor
   of Palm Beach Florida - a RICH area - had to drop his
   property/windstorm insurance because the price had gotten
   entirely out of hand. His salary would have been well
   into six figures fer-sure, but ......

   Finally, "1000-year Events" seem to be "EVERY-year
   events" of late ..... note a repeat of last years
   deadly/destructive floods in Texas. On the plus
   the el-Nino ought to suppress Atlantic/Gulf
   hurricanes for a few years.

> Weather is very weird this year. Big El Niño. Only two named Atlantic 
> storms so far.
> 
> Expect the unexpected. Flash Floods in Utah,and forest fires apparently.
> 
> Stock up on cans of pork and beans and fresh water

   Cans of P&B aren't a bad choice - except I have to
   keep a low-carb diet. Canned tuna will keep for
   a LONG time too. Corned beef also. For carb freaks
   you have plenty of choices - plain old bags of
   rice and wheat flour and dried beans.

   Just as the Covid thing was starting I scored kind of
   the last boxes of dehydrated food and decent MREs.
   Still have 'em, surely still "edible", Just In Case.

   MREs remain 'edible' for a long time, but the flavor
   gets kinda stale after a few years. Still better than
   the neighbors cat I suspect :-)

   Oh, avoid armadillo ... recent news sez they're loaded
   with leprosy. Lots of human xfer cases this year. There's
   something about the citters body temperature that makes
   them ideal incubators. Also probs with prion diseases in
   some herds of deer and moose - NO cure for those - not
   even sure super-well-done will destroy those mutant
   proteins.

   Actually, the whole food-supply chain, commercial
   and natural, seems kinda FUCKED the past five years.
   Never seen so many "urgent recall / Sure Death"
   warnings. The CryptoSHIT disease is the least of it.
   Fish may still be ok, but you kinda have to live on
   the ocean to take full advantage.

   Other odd bit this year - most of the horrible food
   diseases seem to be in VEGGIES, not meat. So much
   that I'm beginning to suspect something deliberate.

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#90592

On 2026-08-26, c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote:
>
>    Cans of P&B aren't a bad choice - except I have to
>    keep a low-carb diet. Canned tuna will keep for
>    a LONG time too. Corned beef also. For carb freaks
>    you have plenty of choices - plain old bags of
>    rice and wheat flour and dried beans.

If I'm informed correctly:

- wheat flour degrades rather quickly;

- unground wheat berries/kernels will last for many years if
stored in airtight containers with the oxygen removed by dry ice
or manufactured oxygen eliminator packets;

- wheat has much more protein and other nutrients than (at least
white) rice.

Plain wheat kernels can be boiled to make a very nice grown-up
cereal.  My wife likes milk, honey, cinnamon, and/or butter on
hers.  I prefer plain milk on mine.  If no milk is available,
that's okay, too.

The recipe can be adjusted for the size of batch being boiled,
but the general idea is to combine 3 parts water for 1 part wheat
kernels, bring to a boil, turn down the heat and let slow boil or
simmer for ~45 minutes, then turn off the heat and let it
continue to self-cook for 3-8 hours.  A larger pan will hold heat
longer, while a smaller pan will cool down more quickly, so cook
times can be adjusted to get the preferred consistency.

In my experience, boiled wheat can be left at room temperature
for up to 24 hours before refrigerating it, but it starts to
taste sour after a few days in the fridge if left at room
temperature longer than about 24 hours before going in the
fridge.

If boiling is not possible, wheat can be eaten by putting some
kernels in the mouth for a few minutes to let them soften enough
for chewing.

-- 
Robert Riches
spamtrap42@jacob21819.net
(Yes, that is one of my email addresses.)

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#90608

On 26/08/2026 04:34, c186282 wrote:
> Finally, "1000-year Events" seem to be "EVERY-year
>    events" of late ..... note a repeat of last years
>    deadly/destructive floods in Texas. On the plus
>    the el-Nino ought to suppress Atlantic/Gulf
>    hurricanes for a few years.

Well yes, any random event in a year of sufficiently unique character 
from a set of a thousand is going to be a 'thousand year event'

-- 
For in reason, all government without the consent of the governed is the 
very definition of slavery.

Jonathan Swift

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#90681

On 2026-08-25 20:34, c186282 wrote:
>    Actually, the whole food-supply chain, commercial
>    and natural, seems kinda FUCKED the past five years.
>    Never seen so many "urgent recall / Sure Death"
>    warnings. The CryptoSHIT disease is the least of it.
>    Fish may still be ok, but you kinda have to live on
>    the ocean to take full advantage.
> 
>    Other odd bit this year - most of the horrible food
>    diseases seem to be in VEGGIES, not meat. So much
>    that I'm beginning to suspect something deliberate.

Many of the outbreaks of food-borne illnesses over the years seem to be 
connected to things being processed too early in the supply chain. Who 
ever thought it would be a good idea for chain restaurants to bring in 
lettuce shredded at a plant in Mexico and distribute it across half the 
United States? Rather than to cut up a head of lettuce in the kitchen?
I can see pre-shredded lettuce making a little bit of sense in a small 
family or a single person's kitchen, but in a restaurant?

Likewise in years past, burger chains had large outbreaks of E. Coli 
linked to ground beef being shipped all over. In my old country, ground 
meats sold in retail stores had to be ground on the store premises and 
sold within 24 hours.

-- 
Lars Poulsen - an old geek in Santa Barbara, California

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#90682

On Thu, 27 Aug 2026 06:30:32 -0700, Lars Poulsen wrote:

> Likewise in years past, burger chains had large outbreaks of E. Coli
> linked to ground beef being shipped all over. In my old country, ground
> meats sold in retail stores had to be ground on the store premises and
> sold within 24 hours.

I can remember when meat was ground on demand from identifiable pieces of 
meat. A pound of 'ground round' was a bit different from today's super 
lean product that is only 15% fat. I draw the line at the 'chubs'. 

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#90713

On 8/27/26 09:30, Lars Poulsen wrote:
> On 2026-08-25 20:34, c186282 wrote:
>>    Actually, the whole food-supply chain, commercial
>>    and natural, seems kinda FUCKED the past five years.
>>    Never seen so many "urgent recall / Sure Death"
>>    warnings. The CryptoSHIT disease is the least of it.
>>    Fish may still be ok, but you kinda have to live on
>>    the ocean to take full advantage.
>>
>>    Other odd bit this year - most of the horrible food
>>    diseases seem to be in VEGGIES, not meat. So much
>>    that I'm beginning to suspect something deliberate.
> 
> Many of the outbreaks of food-borne illnesses over the years seem to be 
> connected to things being processed too early in the supply chain. Who 
> ever thought it would be a good idea for chain restaurants to bring in 
> lettuce shredded at a plant in Mexico and distribute it across half the 
> United States? Rather than to cut up a head of lettuce in the kitchen?
> I can see pre-shredded lettuce making a little bit of sense in a small 
> family or a single person's kitchen, but in a restaurant?

   Well ... 'convenience'.

> Likewise in years past, burger chains had large outbreaks of E. Coli 
> linked to ground beef being shipped all over. In my old country, ground 
> meats sold in retail stores had to be ground on the store premises and 
> sold within 24 hours.

   Ground meats did have a rather bad rep. The odd bit
   is THIS year the reports are almost ALL veggies.
   Salmonella in frozen blueberries. Eh ?

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#90687

c186282 wrote:

> GoogleEarth showed large quantities of "blue tarp" roofs there for
> YEARS 🙂
> 
> BUT, Laura Bush DID show up to distribute water bottles and MREs !

I though that was Waffle House's job?

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#90716

On 8/27/26 11:32, Andy Burns wrote:
> 
> c186282 wrote:
> 
>> GoogleEarth showed large quantities of "blue tarp" roofs there for
>> YEARS 🙂
>>
>> BUT, Laura Bush DID show up to distribute water bottles and MREs !
> 
> I though that was Waffle House's job?

   As I remember, the nearest WH had been trashed.
   BAD storms !

   By popular convention, no WH = no civilization.

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#90118

c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote:
> On 8/18/26 04:10, vallor wrote:
>> At 18 Aug 2026 06:05:55 GMT, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> On Tue, 18 Aug 2026 01:44:51 -0400, c186282 wrote:
>>>
>>>> Tried FFox and Chromium the past few days. The site is ULTRA-slow,
>>>> useless.
>>>
>>> Brave browser. Went to the site, paged through the instructions, went to
>>> the Cinnamon download, selected the Clarkson mirror, and the download
>>> started immediately. Canceled the download.
>>>
>>> Like I've said before you have a lot more problems than the average bear.
>> 
>> Well, his clock is off -- probably not enough to effect TLS, but
>> figuring that out is above my current paygrade.
>> 
>> Dear Mr. c-cipher,
>> 
>> Please run:
>> 
>> $ ntpdate -q time.nist.gov
>> 
>> And post what you see.  Mine says:
>> 
>> 2026-08-18 01:06:57.105142 (-0700) +0.000209 +/- 0.016759 time.nist.gov 132.163.96.6 s1 no-leap
> 
> 
>   Checked, MY clock is dead on.
> 
>   Anyway, they took away my hardwire and gave me a 5G where the 
>   antenna is many miles away.  Weak signal almost always, perhaps 
>   packet errors too.
> 
>   But why the Mint site so notably ???

Perhaps Mint's servers were put on the other side of another 5G 
gateway?

>   Weirdness spanned DAYS too.

Or, perhaps the AI bots were busying downloading, in parallel, every 
file offered on the Mint website, over-saturating Mint's outbound 
network link.

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#90121

On 19/08/2026 03:16, c186282 wrote:
> Weak signal almost always, perhaps packet
>    errors too.
> 
>    But why the Mint site so notably ???
>    Weirdness spanned DAYS too.

Different mint servers have different loading at different times

Its often better for me to download from other than UK based ones

-- 
"Nature does not give up the winter because people dislike the cold."

― Confucius

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