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| Started by | c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> |
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| First post | 2026-08-18 01:44 -0400 |
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What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-18 01:44 -0400
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-18 01:59 -0400
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-18 06:05 +0000
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? vallor <vallor@vallor.earth> - 2026-08-18 08:10 +0000
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-08-18 11:33 +0100
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-18 22:16 -0400
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-19 03:32 +0000
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-19 14:05 +0100
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-08-19 13:23 +0000
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-19 14:10 +0000
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-19 15:15 +0100
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-19 21:53 +0000
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-08-19 22:54 +0000
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? Anton Antimo <anton@safunu.org> - 2026-08-20 10:31 -0300
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-21 13:10 +0100
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? Anton Antimo <anton@safunu.org> - 2026-08-20 10:30 -0300
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-08-20 18:04 +0000
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-19 14:01 +0000
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-19 15:24 +0100
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-19 22:07 +0000
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-08-22 04:02 +0000
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-22 06:48 +0000
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-08-22 16:15 +0000
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? vallor <vallor@vallor.earth> - 2026-08-23 21:52 +0000
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-24 01:07 +0000
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-24 11:15 +0100
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-24 19:26 +0000
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-25 11:45 +0100
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-25 18:39 +0000
Power lines Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2026-08-25 06:48 -0700
Re: Power lines The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-25 15:10 +0100
Re: Power lines Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2026-08-26 18:04 -0700
Re: Power lines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-27 03:23 -0400
Re: Power lines The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-27 12:09 +0100
Re: Power lines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-27 22:15 -0400
Re: Power lines rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-28 03:21 +0000
Re: Power lines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-28 02:42 -0400
Re: Power lines The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-28 13:15 +0100
Re: Power lines rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-28 18:40 +0000
Re: Power lines The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-29 10:37 +0100
Re: Power lines rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-29 20:13 +0000
Re: Power lines "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2026-08-29 21:28 +0100
Re: Power lines The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-29 23:23 +0100
Re: Power lines rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-29 22:47 +0000
Re: Power lines The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-29 23:20 +0100
Re: Power lines The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-28 13:09 +0100
Re: Power lines The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-28 13:06 +0100
Re: Power lines rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-27 14:19 +0000
Re: Power lines The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-27 15:25 +0100
Re: Power lines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-27 22:24 -0400
Re: Power lines The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-28 13:18 +0100
Re: Power lines Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2026-08-28 05:56 -0700
Re: Power lines The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-28 15:33 +0100
Re: Power lines Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2026-08-28 16:06 +0000
Re: Power lines The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-29 10:30 +0100
Re: Power lines rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-28 18:51 +0000
Re: Power lines The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-29 10:39 +0100
Re: Power lines rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-29 20:26 +0000
Re: Power lines The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-29 23:25 +0100
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-25 01:46 -0400
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-25 11:50 +0100
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-25 18:43 +0000
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-26 04:07 -0400
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? Enoch Powell <e.powell@tutanatu.kom> - 2026-08-27 10:54 -0600
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-27 19:11 +0100
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? Enoch Powell <e.powell@tutanatu.kom> - 2026-08-27 12:57 -0600
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-28 12:55 +0100
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-28 18:25 +0000
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-28 00:27 +0100
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-28 00:45 -0400
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-28 13:02 +0100
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2026-08-28 16:13 +0000
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-29 10:32 +0100
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-29 19:38 +0000
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-29 22:57 +0100
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-27 22:55 -0400
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-25 23:34 -0400
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2026-08-26 04:27 +0000
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-26 08:57 +0100
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2026-08-27 06:30 -0700
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-27 13:57 +0000
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-27 22:22 -0400
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-28 13:16 +0100
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-28 18:36 +0000
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-08-28 19:42 +0100
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-29 10:28 +0100
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-29 20:04 +0000
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-29 23:18 +0100
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-29 22:50 +0000
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-29 13:58 +0200
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2026-08-29 10:11 -0700
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-29 22:20 +0200
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-29 23:06 +0000
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-29 22:55 +0100
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-29 22:49 +0100
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-08-27 16:32 +0100
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-27 22:44 -0400
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-08-19 12:57 +0000
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-19 14:03 +0100
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-19 22:24 -0400
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-18 22:07 -0400
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-19 03:42 +0000
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-19 02:14 -0400
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-19 14:13 +0100
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-19 14:14 +0000
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-19 15:27 +0100
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-08-19 16:57 +0000
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-19 14:02 +0100
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-19 13:54 +0000
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-19 22:21 -0400
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2026-08-29 20:13 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: Power lines |
| Message-ID | <nfgsr9FprcuU54@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #90815 |
On Sat, 29 Aug 2026 10:37:54 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > yeah. making the same mistake as everyone else doesn't make it not a > mistake People today don't read any more. Some studies suggest the average high school graduate reads at a 6th grade level. People can't read anymore. I've known at least two people who were completely illiterate. One was a woman who was a good cook but I was always glad dog food cans had pictures of dogs on the labels and not tomatoes.
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| From | "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> |
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| Date | 2026-08-29 21:28 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: Power lines |
| Message-ID | <20260829212855.f619fb506bba676006afbbec@127.0.0.1> |
| In reply to | #90840 |
On 29 Aug 2026 20:13:29 GMT rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote: > On Sat, 29 Aug 2026 10:37:54 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > > > yeah. making the same mistake as everyone else doesn't make it not a > > mistake People today don't read any more. > > Some studies suggest the average high school graduate reads at a 6th grade > level. People can't read anymore. I've known at least two people who were > completely illiterate. One was a woman who was a good cook but I was > always glad dog food cans had pictures of dogs on the labels and not > tomatoes. > Tain't just reedin'; it's akchooal thinkin folk kaint be bovered wiv no more; Ah, gets all I need to no from trooth soshul. -- Bah, and indeed Humbug.
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-08-29 23:23 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: Power lines |
| Message-ID | <116vm5v$3j6fu$9@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #90845 |
On 29/08/2026 21:28, Kerr-Mudd, John wrote: > On 29 Aug 2026 20:13:29 GMT > rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote: > >> On Sat, 29 Aug 2026 10:37:54 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >> >>> yeah. making the same mistake as everyone else doesn't make it not a >>> mistake People today don't read any more. >> >> Some studies suggest the average high school graduate reads at a 6th grade >> level. People can't read anymore. I've known at least two people who were >> completely illiterate. One was a woman who was a good cook but I was >> always glad dog food cans had pictures of dogs on the labels and not >> tomatoes. >> > > Tain't just reedin'; it's akchooal thinkin folk kaint be bovered wiv no > more; Ah, gets all I need to no from trooth soshul. > Twas ever thus BUT in times gone by it wasn't those people who were applauded. When I think of the Kardashians and their vapid opinions and lifestyle choices I want to phone Dignitas... Or yet another Duck-lipped Diva trying to be an 'influencer' -- For in reason, all government without the consent of the governed is the very definition of slavery. Jonathan Swift
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2026-08-29 22:47 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: Power lines |
| Message-ID | <nfh5rdFprcuU65@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #90860 |
On Sat, 29 Aug 2026 23:23:59 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > Twas ever thus BUT in times gone by it wasn't those people who were > applauded. > When I think of the Kardashians and their vapid opinions and lifestyle > choices I want to phone Dignitas... Good news! You've got Milo Yappydopolis back! Please keep him this time.
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-08-29 23:20 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: Power lines |
| Message-ID | <116vlvj$3j6fu$8@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #90840 |
On 29/08/2026 21:13, rbowman wrote: > On Sat, 29 Aug 2026 10:37:54 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > >> yeah. making the same mistake as everyone else doesn't make it not a >> mistake People today don't read any more. > > Some studies suggest the average high school graduate reads at a 6th grade > level. People can't read anymore. I've known at least two people who were > completely illiterate. One was a woman who was a good cook but I was > always glad dog food cans had pictures of dogs on the labels and not > tomatoes. > In South Africa no one would buy the baby food in tins and bottles. When they asked the African women why they didn't buy it they said because clearly it contained cooked dead babies.. -- When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men in a society, over the course of time they create for themselves a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that glorifies it. Frédéric Bastiat
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-08-28 13:09 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: Power lines |
| Message-ID | <116rtpb$28guo$17@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #90719 |
On 28/08/2026 04:21, rbowman wrote: > On Thu, 27 Aug 2026 22:15:12 -0400, c186282 wrote: > >> On 8/27/26 07:09, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >>> On 27/08/2026 08:23, c186282 wrote: >>>> Shit, an insulation breech.. >>> >>> ...breAch >> >> I see it spelled both ways. A "breech" is a 'gap', a 'breach' is an >> 'opening' that has presented itself. > > https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/breech > > The firearms usage is understandable since you are shoving the cartridge > up its ass. Exactly so. Those vulgar gunners when faced with loading the gun from the other end, coined the term... Look up 'kissing the gunners daughter' for a bit of random naval history... -- There is something fascinating about science. One gets such wholesale returns of conjecture out of such a trifling investment of fact. Mark Twain
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-08-28 13:06 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: Power lines |
| Message-ID | <116rtkk$28guo$16@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #90710 |
On 28/08/2026 03:15, c186282 wrote: > On 8/27/26 07:09, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >> On 27/08/2026 08:23, c186282 wrote: >>> Shit, an insulation breech.. >> >> ...breAch > > I see it spelled both ways. A "breech" is > a 'gap', a 'breach' is an 'opening' that > has presented itself. > A breech is not a gap. It is the arse end of a gun, or a human. As in breech loader, or breech birth where the babies shithole comes first. It is also an archaic name for trousers (pants to you) modified in US englsish to 'britches' rather than 'breeches' and in northern UK dialects to 'breeks' Breach is a *break*. Juts because no gives a shit about spelling or ever looks it up doesn't magfically change the etymology of a word. And brakes are not breaks, either. -- In todays liberal progressive conflict-free education system, everyone gets full Marx.
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2026-08-27 14:19 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: Power lines |
| Message-ID | <nfavc5FprcuU20@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #90665 |
On Thu, 27 Aug 2026 03:23:57 -0400, c186282 wrote: > Shit, an insulation breech and anybody walking by DROPS DEAD on the > spot ! There are a couple of places where a trail follows a high voltage transmission line for a while. I'm not real comfortable with the humming and occasional crackling sounds.
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-08-27 15:25 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: Power lines |
| Message-ID | <116phd0$1hq1d$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #90683 |
On 27/08/2026 15:19, rbowman wrote: > On Thu, 27 Aug 2026 03:23:57 -0400, c186282 wrote: > >> Shit, an insulation breech and anybody walking by DROPS DEAD on the >> spot ! > > There are a couple of places where a trail follows a high voltage > transmission line for a while. I'm not real comfortable with the humming > and occasional crackling sounds. Had it run over my garden here, too low to put up a second storey. Paid a lot to get it underground, but it trebled the property value and enabled me to build a much larger house. -- "And if the blind lead the blind, both shall fall into the ditch". Gospel of St. Mathew 15:14
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| From | c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> |
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| Date | 2026-08-27 22:24 -0400 |
| Subject | Re: Power lines |
| Message-ID | <zX6dnaSqj-fYbA33nZ2dnZfqn_SdnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #90683 |
On 8/27/26 10:19, rbowman wrote: > On Thu, 27 Aug 2026 03:23:57 -0400, c186282 wrote: > >> Shit, an insulation breech and anybody walking by DROPS DEAD on the >> spot ! > > There are a couple of places where a trail follows a high voltage > transmission line for a while. I'm not real comfortable with the humming > and occasional crackling sounds. Humming is normal. "Crackling" is NOT ! Walk further away.
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-08-28 13:18 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: Power lines |
| Message-ID | <116rua0$28guo$20@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #90714 |
On 28/08/2026 03:24, c186282 wrote: > On 8/27/26 10:19, rbowman wrote: >> On Thu, 27 Aug 2026 03:23:57 -0400, c186282 wrote: >> >>> Shit, an insulation breech and anybody walking by DROPS DEAD on the >>> spot ! >> >> There are a couple of places where a trail follows a high voltage >> transmission line for a while. I'm not real comfortable with the humming >> and occasional crackling sounds. > > Humming is normal. "Crackling" is NOT ! > Of course it is., Corona discharge > Walk further away. > Whatever -- "What do you think about Gay Marriage?" "I don't." "Don't what?" "Think about Gay Marriage."
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| From | Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> |
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| Date | 2026-08-28 05:56 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: Power lines |
| Message-ID | <116s0h9$2bvoi$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #90757 |
On 2026-08-28 05:18, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > On 28/08/2026 03:24, c186282 wrote: >> On 8/27/26 10:19, rbowman wrote: >>> On Thu, 27 Aug 2026 03:23:57 -0400, c186282 wrote: >>> >>>> Shit, an insulation breech and anybody walking by DROPS DEAD on the >>>> spot ! >>> >>> There are a couple of places where a trail follows a high voltage >>> transmission line for a while. I'm not real comfortable with the humming >>> and occasional crackling sounds. >> >> Humming is normal. "Crackling" is NOT ! >> > Of course it is., Corona discharge > >> Walk further away. >> > Whatever If the powerline is overhead: I would not worry about these sounds. If it is underground, I would not walk on it if it is crackling. Especially in wet weather! -- Lars Poulsen - an old geek in Santa Barbara, California
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-08-28 15:33 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: Power lines |
| Message-ID | <116s67d$2eap0$3@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #90760 |
On 28/08/2026 13:56, Lars Poulsen wrote: > On 2026-08-28 05:18, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >> On 28/08/2026 03:24, c186282 wrote: >>> On 8/27/26 10:19, rbowman wrote: >>>> On Thu, 27 Aug 2026 03:23:57 -0400, c186282 wrote: >>>> >>>>> Shit, an insulation breech and anybody walking by DROPS DEAD on >>>>> the >>>>> spot ! >>>> >>>> There are a couple of places where a trail follows a high voltage >>>> transmission line for a while. I'm not real comfortable with the >>>> humming >>>> and occasional crackling sounds. >>> >>> Humming is normal. "Crackling" is NOT ! >>> >> Of course it is., Corona discharge >> >>> Walk further away. >>> >> Whatever > > If the powerline is overhead: I would not worry about these sounds. > If it is underground, I would not walk on it if it is crackling. > Especially in wet weather! > Corona discharge does not happen INSIDE a solid insulator . But its very much a feature of overheads. -- Any fool can believe in principles - and most of them do!
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| From | Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> |
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| Date | 2026-08-28 16:06 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: Power lines |
| Message-ID | <slrn1193cgs.gd.spamtrap42@one.localnet> |
| In reply to | #90764 |
On 2026-08-28, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote: > On 28/08/2026 13:56, Lars Poulsen wrote: >> On 2026-08-28 05:18, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >>> On 28/08/2026 03:24, c186282 wrote: >>>> On 8/27/26 10:19, rbowman wrote: >>>>> On Thu, 27 Aug 2026 03:23:57 -0400, c186282 wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Shit, an insulation breech and anybody walking by DROPS DEAD on >>>>>> the >>>>>> spot ! >>>>> >>>>> There are a couple of places where a trail follows a high voltage >>>>> transmission line for a while. I'm not real comfortable with the >>>>> humming >>>>> and occasional crackling sounds. >>>> >>>> Humming is normal. "Crackling" is NOT ! >>>> >>> Of course it is., Corona discharge >>> >>>> Walk further away. >>>> >>> Whatever >> >> If the powerline is overhead: I would not worry about these sounds. >> If it is underground, I would not walk on it if it is crackling. >> Especially in wet weather! >> > Corona discharge does not happen INSIDE a solid insulator . At least not in any solid insulator that's going to continue to be a solid insulator for an appreciable amount of time after that point. :-( -- Robert Riches spamtrap42@jacob21819.net (Yes, that is one of my email addresses.)
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-08-29 10:30 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: Power lines |
| Message-ID | <116u8rp$3345j$10@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #90767 |
On 28/08/2026 17:06, Robert Riches wrote: >> Corona discharge does not happen INSIDE a solid insulator . > At least not in any solid insulator that's going to continue to > be a solid insulator for an appreciable amount of time after that > point. 🙁 Yup. Had the 11kv under my frontage dug up and spliced. Heavy trucks use the verge as part of the road to pass. They had driven a flint through the insulation of one phase. Bad installation. Supposed to be laid in sand -- “Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it everywhere, diagnosing it incorrectly and applying the wrong remedies.” ― Groucho Marx
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2026-08-28 18:51 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: Power lines |
| Message-ID | <nfe3mbFprcuU40@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #90760 |
On Fri, 28 Aug 2026 05:56:08 -0700, Lars Poulsen wrote: > If the powerline is overhead: I would not worry about these sounds. > If it is underground, I would not walk on it if it is crackling. > Especially in wet weather! I never worried about the sound effects. Walking under a power line isn't the most scenic hike but the power companies clear a swath under the line that's often the path of least resistance. I don't envy those crews. Often the line runs from ridge to ridge and the slopes from the canyon it crosses are steep.
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-08-29 10:39 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: Power lines |
| Message-ID | <116u9ck$3345j$13@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #90777 |
On 28/08/2026 19:51, rbowman wrote: > On Fri, 28 Aug 2026 05:56:08 -0700, Lars Poulsen wrote: > >> If the powerline is overhead: I would not worry about these sounds. >> If it is underground, I would not walk on it if it is crackling. >> Especially in wet weather! > > I never worried about the sound effects. Walking under a power line isn't > the most scenic hike but the power companies clear a swath under the line > that's often the path of least resistance. > > I don't envy those crews. Often the line runs from ridge to ridge and the > slopes from the canyon it crosses are steep. The local 11KV overhead and the local trees are having intercourse. They are going to cut the power in order to emasculate the trees, next month. -- "If you don’t read the news paper, you are un-informed. If you read the news paper, you are mis-informed." Mark Twain
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2026-08-29 20:26 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: Power lines |
| Message-ID | <nfgtiuFprcuU55@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #90816 |
On Sat, 29 Aug 2026 10:39:32 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > The local 11KV overhead and the local trees are having intercourse. They > are going to cut the power in order to emasculate the trees, next month. The tree in my yard gets a haircut every few years. For some reason it's asymmetrical like it wants to reach out and get it one with the power pole. On forested state or federal lands where there's nobody around to complain they take a more direct approach and prune the tree back to 6" off the ground. It gives them a chance for some artwork too. https://www.oregonhikers.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=24125
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-08-29 23:25 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: Power lines |
| Message-ID | <116vm95$3j6fu$10@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #90842 |
On 29/08/2026 21:26, rbowman wrote: > On Sat, 29 Aug 2026 10:39:32 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > >> The local 11KV overhead and the local trees are having intercourse. They >> are going to cut the power in order to emasculate the trees, next month. > > The tree in my yard gets a haircut every few years. For some reason it's > asymmetrical like it wants to reach out and get it one with the power > pole. > > On forested state or federal lands where there's nobody around to complain > they take a more direct approach and prune the tree back to 6" off the > ground. It gives them a chance for some artwork too. > > https://www.oregonhikers.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=24125 > LOL the first reply has that right. It increases water and hence rot penetration -- In a Time of Universal Deceit, Telling the Truth Is a Revolutionary Act. - George Orwell
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| From | c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> |
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| Date | 2026-08-25 01:46 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <UaqcnZ85f_vPsRD3nZ2dnZfqn_SdnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #90448 |
On 8/24/26 06:15, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > On 24/08/2026 02:07, rbowman wrote: >> On Sun, 23 Aug 2026 21:52:35 +0000, vallor wrote: >> >>> At Sat, 22 Aug 2026 16:15:58 -0000 (UTC), Rich <rich@example.invalid> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote: >>>>> On Sat, 22 Aug 2026 04:02:28 -0000 (UTC), Rich wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> The problem there is often the need for "friendly neighbours". With >>>>>> private property rights what they are in the USA, "fibreing up your >>>>>> own area" can become a morass of needing multitudes of legal >>>>>> easements in order to run the "Ditch Witch" around fibreing up the >>>>>> area. That, or the "Ditch Witch" is restricted to burying only >>>>>> alongside the state/county roads, which can still leave the terminus >>>>>> of that fibre a good distance from the homes that are on the other >>>>>> ends of all the private roads that turn off the few state or county >>>>>> roads. >>>>> >>>>> As an added bonus an irrigation ditch runs along the county road with >>>>> many homes on the far side. It passes under the driveways in a >>>>> culvert. That would add more expense. >>>> >>>> Yep, indeed. And likely three different additional permits, five >>>> seperate inspections, and an environmental impact statement regarding >>>> impacts on the water in the ditch from Ditch Witching under the >>>> irrigation ditch to wire up the homes. >>> >>> FFS, the way to do this is aerial fiber on power poles. >>> >>> (Power poles go everywhere.) >> >> That would seem feasible but they certainly do a lot of digging to lay >> fiber, at least the thick orange trunk lines. >> > > The trouble with overhead anything is that it is extremely vulnerable to > weather. > Although my part of the local 11kV ring is underground other parts are > not and tree damage to the lines results in more than a few power cuts > every year. > > It actually costs more than undergrounding would, but there is no > capitall budget to fix it. I live where there can be severe storms. Overhead lines get shredded, sometimes the poles too. Underground, well, that's a Major Investment by the telcoms. Cable net, it will get shredded too and they're even slower than the telcoms to fix shit. DID buy a decent over-air HDTV antenna - can get about 25 stations (most SHIT) but CAN get 'em. Was in a place where there were TWO hurricanes within about three weeks - a cat-2 and then a cat-3. Did HUGE long-lasting damage. Couldn't even buy gasoline for about three weeks unless you paid cash. Others have experienced even worse - the more recent debacle in the Carolina's and vicinity a good example of near total infrastructure collapse. Got LOTS of weird shit under my old property - so directional drilling might do major damage. In THEORY, the best fixes now are StarLink and 5-G internet. The phone towers can/will go down, but they will be amongst the first things fixed. StarLink - been looking at it quite a bit - but in my case I'd have to build a custom frame/holder from some kind of bad-ass wood and solid asym 4-point mount to a concrete wall (envision a kinda shallow "wedge" setup). No 'perfect' solutions. Hmmmm ... remember people got roof repair started after hurricane #1 ... then it was all ripped away by hurricane #2 - and their insurance companies suddenly would not pay. GoogleEarth showed large quantities of "blue tarp" roofs there for YEARS :-) BUT, Laura Bush DID show up to distribute water bottles and MREs ! MREs ... you CAN eat 'em, but really don't WANNA :-) Mil MRE's are SUPER high SALT too - meant for 20 year old soldiers on aggressive maneuvers. If you are over 60 that much salt might put you in the hospital with kidney or heart failure. (some of the 3rd party stuff, "Mountain House" and such, IS better - MREs and/or dehydrated. Bought right when the Covid disaster was starting, Just In Case. Probably still "edible", but very STALE) Face it, the USA is barely set to deal with major environmental disasters better than yer average 3rd-world shithole. Recent EU news suggests that NOBODY is. Shredded housing, shredded power distribution, shredded comms ... yer ON YER OWN ! The proverbial "safety net" is 90+ percent ILLUSION. Oh, weirdest experience from those double hurricanes, driving down main/secondary roads. 10-foot high piles of EVERYTHING in people's houses taken to the roadside, like driving in a surreal tunnel. Storms, quakes, fires, CAN ruin EVERYTHING in a moment and mostly YOU are gonna be on the hook for it all. Now, most in Florida, the Carolina's, Texas, are having to DROP storm insurance. TOO TOO expensive. Saw in the news that even the MAYOR of Palm Beach FL dropped his ! The 1950s/60s insurance equation is no good anymore. Back then everything was GROWTH - now, at best, it's just "holding ground" - usually worse.
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