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Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11

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  Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 L Thorpe <lt666@sixsixsix.net> - 2026-08-15 20:45 +0000
    Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-08-15 17:10 -0400
      Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 L Thorpe <lt666@sixsixsix.net> - 2026-08-15 21:15 +0000
        Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-08-15 17:21 -0400
          Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 Leroy H <lh@somewhere.net> - 2026-08-15 22:56 +0000
    Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-16 02:26 -0400
      Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-08-16 03:01 -0400
        Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-08-17 09:48 -0700
          Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-08-17 12:54 -0400
          Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-17 17:49 +0000
            Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-08-17 14:34 -0400
              Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-17 23:48 +0000
            Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-08-17 12:14 -0700
              Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-17 22:55 +0000
          Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 Leroy H <lh@somewhere.net> - 2026-08-17 19:33 +0000
            Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-08-17 15:39 -0400
            Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 Leroy H <lh@somewhere.net> - 2026-08-17 20:13 +0000
      Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-16 10:58 +0200
      Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 Leroy H <lh@somewhere.net> - 2026-08-16 14:30 +0000
        Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-16 17:44 +0100
          Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 L Thorpe <lt666@sixsixsix.net> - 2026-08-16 17:01 +0000
            Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-17 00:52 -0400
              Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-08-17 16:58 +0000
                Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-08-17 13:45 -0400
                  Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-08-17 18:59 +0000
                    Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-08-17 15:16 -0400
                      OT (was: Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11) "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-08-17 21:20 +0100
                        Re: OT "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-08-17 16:42 -0400
                          Re: OT "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-08-17 22:21 +0100
                            Re: OT "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-08-17 18:23 -0400
                          Re: OT John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-08-17 14:34 -0700
                            Re: OT "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-08-17 18:24 -0400
                              Re: OT John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-08-17 15:40 -0700
                                Re: OT "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-08-17 18:44 -0400
                              Re: OT Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-08-18 00:47 +0000
                                Re: OT "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-08-17 20:51 -0400
                                  Re: OT rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-18 03:01 +0000
                                    Re: OT Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-08-18 04:55 +0000
                                Re: OT rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-18 02:55 +0000
                      Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-17 22:51 +0000
                  Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2026-08-18 08:39 +0100
                    Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-08-18 03:52 -0400
                  Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-08-18 21:15 +1000
                    Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-08-18 07:25 -0400
                Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-17 18:07 +0000
                Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-17 23:40 +0000
                  Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-08-17 19:45 -0400
                  Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-08-18 00:47 +0000
                    Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-18 02:51 +0000
                      Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-08-18 03:10 +0000
                      Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-18 00:48 -0400
                        Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-18 10:26 +0100
                      Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-08-18 04:55 +0000
                    Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-18 10:25 +0100
                  Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-18 03:34 +0000
              Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2026-08-17 19:08 +0000
          Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-16 23:42 -0400
    Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 vallor <vallor@vallor.earth> - 2026-08-16 11:55 +0000

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#89911 — Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11

FromL Thorpe <lt666@sixsixsix.net>
Date2026-08-15 20:45 +0000
SubjectAhoy Pie R8s! New Win11
Message-ID<18cc1576469d353e$143557$916528$802601b3@news.usenetexpress.com>
Ahoy Pie R8s!

Even though I use GNU/Linux exclusively we all need to maintain
a working version of Win11.  After all, the world is composed of
retarded assholes and retarded assholes can only use Win11.

But my Win11 installation was getting somewhat "old."  I installed
it way back in 2022 and things have changed since then (of course
I always have updates disabled and thus everything stays the same).

I therefore decided to install a newer Win11 version.  I grabbed
a w4r3z of Windows 11 Pro, 25H2, build 26200.7462.  The 8Gb d/l
was completed in a few short minutes but the burn to a USB drive
took almost 15 fucking minutes.  That's 'cause the burn allows
the disabling of TPM, RAM, CoPilot, and all the other forced
crap.  Kudos to the h4x0rs!  (This also an "ancient" machine
being based on a Core i7 2600).

The install also required about 15 minutes and involved several
reboots (that's M$ crap for ya').

The activation went as smooth as silk, however, and now I have
a permanent Win11 and Orifice2024.  Kudos to the h4x0rs!

But it is now several hours and I am still working my way through
that byzantine/rocco crap configuration mess that defines M$
lunacy.

In particular I need to disable that bullshit "Defender."
It used to be a matter of elevating to "Tusted Installer"
and then disabling the appropriate services, but that does
not work with this newer version.  I disabled it via Group
Policy but the services are still running.  I may need to
boot with a Gentoo Live USB and then delete the directory.

Anyway, I disabled updates even though I have no plans to
ever allow this Win11 to connect to the network.  I can
transfer all files via "sneakernet" from GNU/Linux.

Again, kudos to all the global h4x0rs that allow M$ to
be so easily whipped.


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#89912

From"Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com>
Date2026-08-15 17:10 -0400
Message-ID<115qkkt$3n73f$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#89911
On 8/15/2026 4:45 PM, L Thorpe wrote:

> Ahoy Pie R8s!
> 
> Even though I use GNU/Linux exclusively we all need to maintain
> a working version of Win11.  After all, the world is composed of
> retarded assholes and retarded assholes can only use Win11.
> 
> But my Win11 installation was getting somewhat "old."  I installed
> it way back in 2022 and things have changed since then (of course
> I always have updates disabled and thus everything stays the same).
> 
> I therefore decided to install a newer Win11 version.  I grabbed
> a w4r3z of Windows 11 Pro, 25H2, build 26200.7462.


Why would you use "warez" of *Microsoft's* OS?  Are you that ignorant of 
how Windows takes possession of your system?  You're just giving them 
*permission* to fuck with you.  I paid $200 to legitimately activate 
Win11 Pro on this thing when it *came with* a gray-market 11 Pro license 
already, and they have to a very limited extent fucked with me *even 
so*.  That is because of who I am, I realize, but nevertheless, if 
you're admittedly using "warez" Win11, I mean, you are not the computer 
science wizard you claim to be.

-- 
Joel W. Crump

Zyprexa - It's not just for schizophrenics, anymore!

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#89913

FromL Thorpe <lt666@sixsixsix.net>
Date2026-08-15 21:15 +0000
Message-ID<18cc170f9d7265d7$127048$666557$802601b3@news.usenetexpress.com>
In reply to#89912
On Sat, 15 Aug 2026 17:10:52 -0400, Joel W. Crump wrote:

> 
> Why would you use "warez" of *Microsoft's* OS?
>

Sodomite Joel still has not answered the question of how many
times he shits the bed in a given week.

How many times did you shit the bed?

Heh!  How many times?

Haaaaaaaaa, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!

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#89914

From"Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com>
Date2026-08-15 17:21 -0400
Message-ID<115ql94$3ncpi$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#89913
On 8/15/2026 5:15 PM, L Thorpe wrote:

>> Why would you use "warez" of *Microsoft's* OS?
> 
> Sodomite Joel still has not answered the question of how many
> times he shits the bed in a given week.
> 
> How many times did you shit the bed?
> 
> Heh!  How many times?
> 
> Haaaaaaaaa, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!


You are avoiding the point, moron.

-- 
Joel W. Crump

Zyprexa - It's not just for schizophrenics, anymore!

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#89915

FromLeroy H <lh@somewhere.net>
Date2026-08-15 22:56 +0000
Message-ID<18cc1c98441af39f$114745$442584$802601b3@news.usenetexpress.com>
In reply to#89914
This newer Win11 is really fucked.

I d/led some h4x0r tools and then attempted to execute
them by "clicking" on them from File Explorer.  I immediately
received a warning (this was before I disabled that stupid shit)
explaining that the files might be malware and that I could
not execute them.

So I immediately invoked Powershell, navigated to the relevant
directory (folder) and executed them via CLI.  There was no problem.

Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!  I almost fell off my chair
with crippling laughter.

Smart job Micro$hit!

But I eventually disabled that security bullshit.

It requires a LONG TIME to beat this M$ junk into submission
but it can be done.

Whew baby!  Only a supremely retarded dunce would desire to
use Micro$hit Winblows!

But as has been stated, one must be prepared to deal with
the retarded assholes of the world.

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#89925

Fromc186282 <c186282@nnada.net>
Date2026-08-16 02:26 -0400
Message-ID<ECGdneZEyfa7xRz3nZ2dnZfqnPqdnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#89911
On 8/15/26 16:45, L Thorpe wrote:
> Ahoy Pie R8s!

   Ummmmmm ... RASPBERRY PI 8s ??? There's not even
   a RP 6 yet. Won't be for awhile, esp with the
   current weird financial situation.

   You don't WANT to know what a Pi-Zero-2W costs
   in the USA right now ... I made a whole thread
   around it.

   A couple years ago I bought a like five of
   those "mini-box" PCs ... basically low-end
   laptop chips. Price was GOOD. Using Linux
   they could do four times as much as the
   built-in Winders crap. PRIDE in making sure
   Winders didn't run for a microsecond before
   installing Linux ! :-)

   BeeLink/BMax ... great units - or USED to be.

> Even though I use GNU/Linux exclusively we all need to maintain
> a working version of Win11.  After all, the world is composed of
> retarded assholes and retarded assholes can only use Win11.
> 
> But my Win11 installation was getting somewhat "old."  I installed
> it way back in 2022 and things have changed since then (of course
> I always have updates disabled and thus everything stays the same).
> 
> I therefore decided to install a newer Win11 version.

   WHY the fuck would you install Win ??????????????

> I grabbed
> a w4r3z of Windows 11 Pro, 25H2, build 26200.7462.  The 8Gb d/l
> was completed in a few short minutes but the burn to a USB drive
> took almost 15 fucking minutes.  That's 'cause the burn allows
> the disabling of TPM, RAM, CoPilot, and all the other forced
> crap.  Kudos to the h4x0rs!  (This also an "ancient" machine
> being based on a Core i7 2600).
> 
> The install also required about 15 minutes and involved several
> reboots (that's M$ crap for ya').
> 
> The activation went as smooth as silk, however, and now I have
> a permanent Win11 and Orifice2024.  Kudos to the h4x0rs!
> 
> But it is now several hours and I am still working my way through
> that byzantine/rocco crap configuration mess that defines M$
> lunacy.
> 
> In particular I need to disable that bullshit "Defender."
> It used to be a matter of elevating to "Tusted Installer"
> and then disabling the appropriate services, but that does
> not work with this newer version.  I disabled it via Group
> Policy but the services are still running.  I may need to
> boot with a Gentoo Live USB and then delete the directory.
> 
> Anyway, I disabled updates even though I have no plans to
> ever allow this Win11 to connect to the network.  I can
> transfer all files via "sneakernet" from GNU/Linux.
> 
> Again, kudos to all the global h4x0rs that allow M$ to
> be so easily whipped.

   Just sayin' ... DUMP Winders/Apple !!! NEVER look
   at them again ! Linux/Unix can do everything you
   need - for a fraction of the CPU/Disk. Yer $200
   box will perform like a $800 box.

   Winders/Apple became EVIL a LONG time ago IMHO.
   Don't give 'em a dime.

   Hmm ... still remember finding "NSA Backdoor"
   in the WIN-2K registry !

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#89928

From"Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com>
Date2026-08-16 03:01 -0400
Message-ID<115rn8m$110$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#89925
On 8/16/2026 2:26 AM, c186282 wrote:
> On 8/15/26 16:45, L Thorpe wrote:

>> Anyway, I disabled updates even though I have no plans to
>> ever allow this Win11 to connect to the network.  I can
>> transfer all files via "sneakernet" from GNU/Linux.
>>
>> Again, kudos to all the global h4x0rs that allow M$ to
>> be so easily whipped.
> 
>    Just sayin' ... DUMP Winders/Apple !!! NEVER look
>    at them again ! Linux/Unix can do everything you
>    need - for a fraction of the CPU/Disk. Yer $200
>    box will perform like a $800 box.
> 
>    Winders/Apple became EVIL a LONG time ago IMHO.
>    Don't give 'em a dime.
> 
>    Hmm ... still remember finding "NSA Backdoor"
>    in the WIN-2K registry !


Win11 can be a great OS, actually.  It's less so when it's pirated, 
though, and these manhandling schemes with Rufus, to get around TPM, 
show that some people simply want to claim Windows for its software, but 
are willfully ignorant of or are outright trying to deconstruct 
Microsoft's established patterns for how the OS is installed and used. 
There's just not a good reason for this, ultimately, it's trying to 
orchestrate a husbandry of the OS that simply isn't necessary, if one 
were humble, I do change important settings from the defaults, and such, 
but forcing modifications to the Windows system as it's delivered is 
just attempting to customize the product into something that ultimately 
fails to retain the components that MS provides, it's running away from 
what a complete Windows OS is.  I, for one, want the experience to be 
fundamentally intact.

-- 
Joel W. Crump

Zyprexa - It's not just for schizophrenics, anymore!

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#89969

FromJohn Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com>
Date2026-08-17 09:48 -0700
Message-ID<20260817094857.00002856@gmail.com>
In reply to#89928
On Sun, 16 Aug 2026 03:01:41 -0400
"Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote:

> Win11 can be a great OS, actually.

It's hot garbage - worse than 8/10, which were already worse than 7.
Having failed to capture the tablet market with a bad imitation of iOS,
they've apparently set their sights on failing to capture Mac users
with a bad imitation of OSX - and the inevitable UI fuckery would be
annoying enough, but on top of that you're perpetually stuck with a
dozen Edge processes running in the background to serve up the New New
Flavor of GUI, sucking up more RAM for less usability, their IPP driver
is shit on top of WSD still being shit, Defender is more of a hog and
more controlling than ever, etc. etc. etc.

Burn it with fire.

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#89970

From"Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com>
Date2026-08-17 12:54 -0400
Message-ID<115vebq$15kvq$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#89969
On 8/17/2026 12:48 PM, John Ames wrote:

>> Win11 can be a great OS, actually.
> 
> It's hot garbage - worse than 8/10, which were already worse than 7.
> Having failed to capture the tablet market with a bad imitation of iOS,
> they've apparently set their sights on failing to capture Mac users
> with a bad imitation of OSX - and the inevitable UI fuckery would be
> annoying enough, but on top of that you're perpetually stuck with a
> dozen Edge processes running in the background to serve up the New New
> Flavor of GUI, sucking up more RAM for less usability, their IPP driver
> is shit on top of WSD still being shit, Defender is more of a hog and
> more controlling than ever, etc. etc. etc.
> 
> Burn it with fire.


I dunno, I think my experience with this eight-thread mini PC proves 
Win11 is good, if it can perform well on the hardware I'm using, with 16 
GB RAM shared with its GPU, then Linux is only better on computers that 
are inadequate to run modern Windows.

-- 
Joel W. Crump

Zyprexa - It's not just for schizophrenics, anymore!

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#89977

Fromrbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Date2026-08-17 17:49 +0000
Message-ID<negvt4Fpk4lU32@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#89969
On Mon, 17 Aug 2026 09:48:57 -0700, John Ames wrote:

> but on top of that you're perpetually stuck with a dozen Edge processes
> running in the background to serve up the New New Flavor of GUI,

I think that's a chromium 'feature'.  I use Brave, which is also chromium 
based, and it launches a lot of processes. 'killall' comes in handy if you 
want to shut it down without closing all the tabs.

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#89979

FromPaul <nospam@needed.invalid>
Date2026-08-17 14:34 -0400
Message-ID<115vk87$17q3m$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#89977
On Mon, 8/17/2026 1:49 PM, rbowman wrote:
> On Mon, 17 Aug 2026 09:48:57 -0700, John Ames wrote:
> 
>> but on top of that you're perpetually stuck with a dozen Edge processes
>> running in the background to serve up the New New Flavor of GUI,
> 
> I think that's a chromium 'feature'.  I use Brave, which is also chromium 
> based, and it launches a lot of processes. 'killall' comes in handy if you 
> want to shut it down without closing all the tabs.
> 

Firefox, Thunderbird, Chromium use isolated processes for
attack surfaces. They are multi-process softwares. Firefox
for example, the more tabs you open, eventually more handlers
are opened for sets of tabs.

An example of an attack surface, is a "malformed video" your application
is attempting to play. The movie player is one of those child processes
which does nothing but handle movie rectangles. The movie player would be
unelevated, tipping it over and crashing it, does nothing to the parent
and the parent forks another one. In the old days, the parent played
the movie, and if the movie was malformed, the whole browser would crash.

For Windows, you have to kill the parent task, to kill the parent
and all children. Just identifying the PID of the movie player
and giving the movie player a smack, just causes another movie
player to be forked.

And as cross-platform softwares, these behaviors for the named programs
above, should exist on all platforms.

On Windows, you can use Sysinternals Process Explorer, to identify
which process is the parent. Task Manager does not seem to have a
column for PPID (Parent Process ID). Sysinternals has the parent
and children with indented display, which shows the child-relationship
as expected.

I expect Chrome can be credited with this arch change, Firefox
merely copied it, Thunderbird switched this off, until more recently
where the additional staff embraced the approach. Thunderbird still
restricts the kind of media it will handle, so the attack surface
isn't quite the same as with Firefox.

    Paul

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#90004

FromLawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid>
Date2026-08-17 23:48 +0000
Message-ID<11606kr$1d7dv$8@dont-email.me>
In reply to#89979
On Mon, 17 Aug 2026 14:34:47 -0400, Paul wrote:

> On Windows, you can use Sysinternals Process Explorer, to identify
> which process is the parent. Task Manager does not seem to have a
> column for PPID (Parent Process ID). Sysinternals has the parent and
> children with indented display, which shows the child-relationship
> as expected.

On Linux, we have command-line tools that can display a whole range of
information for you to choose from
<https://manpages.debian.org/ps(1)>. (Yes, the backward-compatibility
machinery being carried around in that particular piece of software is
at once horrifying and impressive.)

And most of this info comes from Linux APIs that can be accessed just
by reading from virtual files in places like /proc and /sys. So it’s
easy to write something as simple as a shell script to show some
similar information.

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#89982

FromJohn Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com>
Date2026-08-17 12:14 -0700
Message-ID<20260817121447.00005c4f@gmail.com>
In reply to#89977
On 17 Aug 2026 17:49:24 GMT
rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:

> > but on top of that you're perpetually stuck with a dozen Edge
> > processes running in the background to serve up the New New Flavor
> > of GUI,  
> 
> I think that's a chromium 'feature'.  I use Brave, which is also
> chromium based, and it launches a lot of processes. 'killall' comes
> in handy if you want to shut it down without closing all the tabs.

The process-per-tab thing is a Chrome legacy, yes, and there's reasons
for it (as Paul explains elsethread.) The beef with Edge specifically,
here, is twofold: that *A.* even with the browser closed, Edge leaves
processes hanging around in memory like a couch-surfing relative, and
*B.* the Win11 New New Flavor GUI specifically has some dependency* on
the Edge WebView2 framework, so even if you kill the browser manually
and never invoke it, there are at all times a dozen or more processes
of *that* hanging around in memory, just to serve up the same broader
functionality Windows has been providing since Win95 with the latest
layer of frosting on it.

* (Some people will argue that the whole framework is built on top of
  Edge, and therefore this extra bloat is Actually Necessary. This
  would be morally indefensible in any case, but as far as I can tell
  it's not even true; Server 2025 uses the same gussied-up interface
  without the pile of msedgewebview2.exe's hanging around in RAM.)

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#90001

Fromrbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Date2026-08-17 22:55 +0000
Message-ID<nehhqiFpk4lU38@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#89982
On Mon, 17 Aug 2026 12:14:47 -0700, John Ames wrote:

> * (Some people will argue that the whole framework is built on top of
>   Edge, and therefore this extra bloat is Actually Necessary. This would
>   be morally indefensible in any case, but as far as I can tell it's not
>   even true; Server 2025 uses the same gussied-up interface without the
>   pile of msedgewebview2.exe's hanging around in RAM.)

Just be happy it's Edge 2.0.  That recycled IE Edge 1.0 before MS decided 
they never could write a decent browser would have been even a bigger 
disaster. 

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#89986

FromLeroy H <lh@somewhere.net>
Date2026-08-17 19:33 +0000
Message-ID<18ccaeb3c38f4125$118733$442584$802601b3@news.usenetexpress.com>
In reply to#89969
On Mon, 17 Aug 2026 09:48:57 -0700, John Ames wrote:

> On Sun, 16 Aug 2026 03:01:41 -0400
> "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Win11 can be a great OS, actually.
> 
> Burn it with fire.
>

Are you not aware that you are communicating with
a confirmed mangy sodomite?

Yes, that is correct.  Joel sticks things up his asshole.
In fact, he most likely has a butt plug up his ass as he
writes these posts.

Is this the kind of person with which you would like to
correspond?

I hope not.

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#89987

From"Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com>
Date2026-08-17 15:39 -0400
Message-ID<115vo0o$1942h$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#89986
On 8/17/2026 3:33 PM, Leroy H wrote:
> On Mon, 17 Aug 2026 09:48:57 -0700, John Ames wrote:
>> On Sun, 16 Aug 2026 03:01:41 -0400
>> "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Win11 can be a great OS, actually.
>>
>> Burn it with fire.
> 
> Are you not aware that you are communicating with
> a confirmed mangy sodomite?
> 
> Yes, that is correct.  Joel sticks things up his asshole.
> In fact, he most likely has a butt plug up his ass as he
> writes these posts.
> 
> Is this the kind of person with which you would like to
> correspond?
> 
> I hope not.


The only thing I "stick up my asshole" is a finger, if I feel that urge, 
I like real live girlcock on a transgender woman, or potentially a cock 
on a man, beyond that.  Your obsession with that is merely an excuse not 
to deal with how I pwn you over and over about your nutty computer ventures.

-- 
Joel W. Crump

Zyprexa - It's not just for schizophrenics, anymore!

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#89990

FromLeroy H <lh@somewhere.net>
Date2026-08-17 20:13 +0000
Message-ID<18ccb0e0f8cb771f$129113$666557$802601b3@news.usenetexpress.com>
In reply to#89986
On Mon, 17 Aug 2026 21:01:34 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

> 
> *plonk*
>

Ha, ha, ha, ha!

Another impotent loser, in a pathetic attempt to make himself
feel powerful, reports to a totally disinterested crowd that
he has added a poster to his killfile.

Ha, ha, ha, ha!

The behavior is well cataloged.

Ha, ha, ha, ha!

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#89932

From"Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Date2026-08-16 10:58 +0200
Message-ID<nedceiFfbjoU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#89925
On 2026-08-16 08:26, c186282 wrote:
> On 8/15/26 16:45, L Thorpe wrote:
>> Ahoy Pie R8s!
> 
>    Ummmmmm ... RASPBERRY PI 8s ??? There's not even
>    a RP 6 yet. Won't be for awhile, esp with the
>    current weird financial situation.
> 
>    You don't WANT to know what a Pi-Zero-2W costs
>    in the USA right now ... I made a whole thread
>    around it.
> 
>    A couple years ago I bought a like five of
>    those "mini-box" PCs ... basically low-end
>    laptop chips. Price was GOOD. Using Linux
>    they could do four times as much as the
>    built-in Winders crap. PRIDE in making sure
>    Winders didn't run for a microsecond before
>    installing Linux ! :-)
> 
>    BeeLink/BMax ... great units - or USED to be.
> 
>> Even though I use GNU/Linux exclusively we all need to maintain
>> a working version of Win11.  After all, the world is composed of
>> retarded assholes and retarded assholes can only use Win11.
>>
>> But my Win11 installation was getting somewhat "old."  I installed
>> it way back in 2022 and things have changed since then (of course
>> I always have updates disabled and thus everything stays the same).
>>
>> I therefore decided to install a newer Win11 version.
> 
>    WHY the fuck would you install Win ??????????????
You are talking with Farley Flud.

-- 
Cheers,
        Carlos E.R.
        ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺.

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#89938

FromLeroy H <lh@somewhere.net>
Date2026-08-16 14:30 +0000
Message-ID<18cc4f948c6a80de$167673$821642$802601b3@news.usenetexpress.com>
In reply to#89925
On Sun, 16 Aug 2026 02:26:27 -0400, c186282 wrote:

> 
>    WHY the fuck would you install Win ??????????????
> 

I thought that the OP made that very clear.

The dregs of the world, and especially the corporate dregs,
utilize software that have no GNU/Linux versions.  To accommodate
these dregs, if the occasion should arrive, it requires
an M$ Win system at the ready.  I will keep a dedicated machine
for that purpose.

I refer to professional software such as AutoCAD, SolidWorks,
PSpice, etc.

When it comes to pro software, it is all about the GUI, and
the developers of these programs are so entrenched in M$ Win
GUI frameworks that they could never port to GNU/Linux.  Never.

There are some notable exceptions (Mathematica, Maple, and
Matlab) but by and large the pro world runs on M$ Win.
This is regrettable.  This is unfortunate.  But it is
also reality.

I am not knocking GNU/Linux.  I prefer it and use it for
much paid ($$$) pro work but the dregs of the world know
only M$ Win.

Thus, it is not inappropriate for the GNU/Linux advocate
to install Win11.

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#89940

FromThe Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Date2026-08-16 17:44 +0100
Message-ID<115spe5$ar9e$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#89938
On 16/08/2026 15:30, Leroy H wrote:
> I am not knocking GNU/Linux.  I prefer it and use it for
> much paid ($$$) pro work but the dregs of the world know
> only M$ Win.
> 
So you need it professionally. Fairy Nuff

I don't

> Thus, it is not inappropriate for the GNU/Linux advocate
> to install Win11.

Well that's OK because I am not a Linux/Unix advocate. I am a contented 
user.


-- 
A lie can travel halfway around the world while the truth is putting on 
its shoes.

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