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  virtualbox ruben safir <ruben@mrbrklyn.com> - 2015-03-23 01:33 -0400
    Re: virtualbox Aragorn <thorongil@telenet.be.invalid> - 2015-03-23 06:50 +0100
      Re: virtualbox ruben safir <ruben@mrbrklyn.com> - 2015-03-23 02:10 -0400
        Re: virtualbox Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2015-03-23 12:15 +0000
          Re: virtualbox The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2015-03-23 12:35 +0000
    Re: virtualbox Richard Kettlewell <rjk@greenend.org.uk> - 2015-03-23 09:10 +0000
      Re: virtualbox philo <philo@privacy.net> - 2015-03-23 09:38 -0500
    Re: virtualbox Mark <i@dontgetlotsofspamanymore.invalid> - 2015-03-23 10:03 +0000
    Re: virtualbox Stef <not@this.address.com> - 2015-03-23 16:07 +0000
      Re: virtualbox ruben safir <ruben@mrbrklyn.com> - 2015-04-20 11:49 -0400
    Re: virtualbox James Moe <jimoeDESPAM@sohnen-moe.com> - 2015-03-24 10:01 -0700
      Re: virtualbox ruben safir <dont@email.me> - 2015-03-25 03:01 +0000
        Re: virtualbox Mladen Gogala <gogala.mladen@gmail.com> - 2015-03-25 07:11 +0000
          Re: virtualbox ruben safir <ruben@mrbrklyn.com> - 2015-04-20 11:42 -0400
      Re: virtualbox ruben safir <ruben@mrbrklyn.com> - 2015-04-20 11:42 -0400
        Re: virtualbox Andreas Kohlbach <apr15.7.ankman@spamgourmet.net> - 2015-04-20 17:57 -0400
        Re: virtualbox James Moe <jimoeDESPAM@sohnen-moe.com> - 2015-04-20 15:10 -0700
          Re: virtualbox ruben safir <ruben@mrbrklyn.com> - 2015-04-21 05:18 -0400
            Re: virtualbox The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2015-04-21 11:49 +0100
              Re: virtualbox ruben safir <ruben@mrbrklyn.com> - 2015-04-21 16:42 -0400
                Re: virtualbox The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2015-04-22 08:42 +0100

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#14221 — virtualbox

anyone using virtualbox?  Since I made the new kernel, I lost cut and
paste between the host and guest machines and complaints about kernel
services not being available.  Then the modules are failing on boot, so
I suppose I have another thing I need to compile or update.  Does anyone
know what action to take or a resource to read up on it.

Without cut and paste it is  PIA to google for it.

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#14222

On Monday 23 March 2015 06:33, ruben safir conveyed the following to 
comp.os.linux.misc...

> anyone using virtualbox?  Since I made the new kernel, I lost cut and
> paste between the host and guest machines and complaints about kernel
> services not being available.  Then the modules are failing on boot,
> so I suppose I have another thing I need to compile or update.  Does
> anyone know what action to take or a resource to read up on it.
> 
> Without cut and paste it is  PIA to google for it.

The kernel services you speak of are a function of VirtualBox and can 
only be invoked if both VirtualBox and the hardware of your machine 
support hardware virtualization extensions.  Such hardware 
virtualization extensions are ─ to the best of my knowledge ─ only 
available on x86-64 hardware (and not even on all of it).  

If your machine is an x86-64 ─ and you stated that it is a Core 2 Duo, 
so it is ─ then you must enable the hardware virtualization extensions 
in the BIOS before VirtualBox can enable them.  Without enabling this 
feature, VirtualBox will use emulation for most of the stuff requiring 
direct hardware access by the guest operating system.

-- 
= Aragorn =

         http://www.linuxcounter.net - registrant #223157

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#14223

On 03/23/2015 01:50 AM, Aragorn wrote:
> If your machine is an x86-64 ─ and you stated that it is a Core 2 Duo, 
> so it is ─ then you must enable the hardware virtualization extensions 
> in the BIOS before VirtualBox can enable them.  Without enabling this 
> feature, VirtualBox will use emulation for most of the stuff requiring 
> direct hardware access by the guest operating system.


That was all done.  I was working fine under the stock kernels.  It was
only after my custom, actually I only made a change from 64_x86 to Duo
Core in the config files, that some of those services, including shared
clipboards, stopped working.  That is why I think I need to recompile
some guest modules for guest kernel... or maybe even the host since in
theory they are now running on different kernel versions.

Ruben

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#14228

ruben safir <ruben@mrbrklyn.com> wrote:
> On 03/23/2015 01:50 AM, Aragorn wrote:
> > If your machine is an x86-64 ? and you stated that it is a Core 2 Duo, 
> > so it is ? then you must enable the hardware virtualization extensions 
> > in the BIOS before VirtualBox can enable them.  Without enabling this 
> > feature, VirtualBox will use emulation for most of the stuff requiring 
> > direct hardware access by the guest operating system.


> That was all done.  I was working fine under the stock kernels.  It was
> only after my custom, actually I only made a change from 64_x86 to Duo
> Core in the config files, that some of those services, including shared

Cut & Paste between the host and guest on virtual box is handled, in
part, by a kernel module that runs in the guest itself.  Your new
kernel likely does not have that virtual box kernel module (because it
is supplied by VB, and is not in kernel.org kernels.  You need to study
the virtual box documentation further to determine how to add the
virtual box module to the guest kernel.

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#14229

On 23/03/15 12:15, Rich wrote:
> ruben safir <ruben@mrbrklyn.com> wrote:
>> On 03/23/2015 01:50 AM, Aragorn wrote:
>>> If your machine is an x86-64 ? and you stated that it is a Core 2 Duo,
>>> so it is ? then you must enable the hardware virtualization extensions
>>> in the BIOS before VirtualBox can enable them.  Without enabling this
>>> feature, VirtualBox will use emulation for most of the stuff requiring
>>> direct hardware access by the guest operating system.
>
>
>> That was all done.  I was working fine under the stock kernels.  It was
>> only after my custom, actually I only made a change from 64_x86 to Duo
>> Core in the config files, that some of those services, including shared
>
> Cut & Paste between the host and guest on virtual box is handled, in
> part, by a kernel module that runs in the guest itself.  Your new
> kernel likely does not have that virtual box kernel module (because it
> is supplied by VB, and is not in kernel.org kernels.  You need to study
> the virtual box documentation further to determine how to add the
> virtual box module to the guest kernel.
>
If its any help a kernel upgrade on my stock distro based system is 
always followed by a recompile? of vbox kernel modules automatically.

I am guessing that you will need to do this manually somehow if the 
vboxs is a guest inside the updated kernel system

Or is the new kernel itself running in the vbox?


-- 
Everything you read in newspapers is absolutely true, except for the 
rare story of which you happen to have first-hand knowledge. – Erwin Knoll

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#14224

ruben safir <ruben@mrbrklyn.com> writes:
> anyone using virtualbox?  Since I made the new kernel, I lost cut and
> paste between the host and guest machines and complaints about kernel
> services not being available.  Then the modules are failing on boot,
> so I suppose I have another thing I need to compile or update.  Does
> anyone know what action to take or a resource to read up on it.

Sounds like you’re missing the guest additions.

-- 
http://www.greenend.org.uk/rjk/

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#14232

On 03/23/2015 04:10 AM, Richard Kettlewell wrote:
> ruben safir <ruben@mrbrklyn.com> writes:
>> anyone using virtualbox?  Since I made the new kernel, I lost cut and
>> paste between the host and guest machines and complaints about kernel
>> services not being available.  Then the modules are failing on boot,
>> so I suppose I have another thing I need to compile or update.  Does
>> anyone know what action to take or a resource to read up on it.
>
> Sounds like you’re missing the guest additions.
>



Yep.

Exactly what I though...or if he had them installed, may require a 
re-install.

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#14225

On Mon, 23 Mar 2015 01:33:00 -0400, ruben safir <ruben@mrbrklyn.com>
wrote:

>anyone using virtualbox?  Since I made the new kernel, I lost cut and
>paste between the host and guest machines and complaints about kernel
>services not being available.  Then the modules are failing on boot, so
>I suppose I have another thing I need to compile or update.  Does anyone
>know what action to take or a resource to read up on it.
>
>Without cut and paste it is  PIA to google for it.

Have you installed the guest additions again?  I believe you need to
when you update the kernel.
-- 
(\__/)  M.
(='.'=) If a man stands in a forest and no woman is around
(")_(") is he still wrong?

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#14233

ruben safir wrote:

> anyone using virtualbox?  Since I made the new kernel, I lost cut and
> paste between the host and guest machines and complaints about kernel
> services not being available.  Then the modules are failing on boot, so
> I suppose I have another thing I need to compile or update.  Does anyone
> know what action to take or a resource to read up on it.
>
> Without cut and paste it is  PIA to google for it.

I'm assuming the new kernel is on the host system.

With a new kernel, you need to compile a new VirtualBox kernel module. 
And, probably, reinstall GuestAdditions.

If you have DKMS installed and the needed VB kernel headers, etc., the
VB kernel module will be updated/recompiled automatically as needed.

 Check the VB manual.  You might also check Arch Linux's wiki on
Virtual Box. Lots of great step-by-step instructions and
troubleshooting there.

Stef

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#14599

On 03/23/2015 12:07 PM, Stef wrote:
> If you have DKMS installed and the needed VB kernel headers, etc., the
> VB kernel module will be updated/recompiled automatically as needed.
> 
>  Check the VB manual.  You might also check Arch Linux's wiki on
> Virtual Box. Lots of great step-by-step instructions and
> troubleshooting there.


no this is all wrong.  I can't spend 6 weeks studying virtualbox.  This
just has to work.

there is a source directory but it is useless.

[ruben@stat13 vboxguest-4.3.26]$ pwd
/usr/src/vboxguest-4.3.26
[ruben@stat13 vboxguest-4.3.26]$ ls
build_in_tmp  dkms.conf  do_dkms  Makefile  vboxguest  vboxsf  vboxvideo
[ruben@stat13 vboxguest-4.3.26]$ ls -l
total 18
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 1766 Mar 17 11:12 build_in_tmp
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root  999 Mar 17 11:12 dkms.conf
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 2047 Mar 17 11:12 do_dkms
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 2604 Mar 17 11:12 Makefile
drwxr-xr-x 7 root root  904 Mar 17 11:12 vboxguest
drwxr-xr-x 4 root root 1056 Mar 17 11:12 vboxsf
drwxr-xr-x 3 root root  360 Mar 17 11:12 vboxvideo
[ruben@stat13 vboxguest-4.3.26]$

there is no config files, nothing.

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#14241

On 03/22/2015 10:33 PM, ruben safir wrote:
> Since I made the new kernel, I lost cut and
> paste between the host and guest machines and complaints about kernel
> services not being available.
>
  You must rebuild the Vbox driver.

sudo /etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup

-- 
James Moe
jmm-list at sohnen-moe dot com

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#14246

On Tue, 24 Mar 2015 10:01:19 -0700, James Moe wrote:

>   You must rebuild the Vbox driver.
> 
> sudo /etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup



really, that would be it?




-- 
The Coin Hangout: http://www.coinhangout.com/home

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#14248

On Wed, 25 Mar 2015 03:01:16 +0000, ruben safir wrote:

> On Tue, 24 Mar 2015 10:01:19 -0700, James Moe wrote:
> 
>>   You must rebuild the Vbox driver.
>> 
>> sudo /etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup
> 
> 
> 
> really, that would be it?

No it's not all. You have to chant secret chants. on midnight of Friday 
the 13th, and sacrifice a black rooster.



-- 
Mladen Gogala
The Oracle Whisperer
http://mgogala.byethost5.com
Je suis Charlie

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#14597

On 03/25/2015 03:11 AM, Mladen Gogala wrote:
> On Wed, 25 Mar 2015 03:01:16 +0000, ruben safir wrote:
> 
>> On Tue, 24 Mar 2015 10:01:19 -0700, James Moe wrote:
>>
>>>   You must rebuild the Vbox driver.
>>>
>>> sudo /etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup
>>
>>
>>
>> really, that would be it?
> 
> No it's not all. You have to chant secret chants. on midnight of Friday 
> the 13th, and sacrifice a black rooster.
> 
> 
> 

:)
I don't have that on my system

[ruben@stat13 ~]$ locate vboxdrv
/usr/lib/modules/extramodules-3.14-MANJARO/vboxdrv.ko.gz
/usr/lib/modules/extramodules-3.19-MANJARO/vboxdrv.ko.gz
/usr/lib/udev/rules.d/60-vboxdrv.rules

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#14598

On 03/24/2015 01:01 PM, James Moe wrote:
>   You must rebuild the Vbox driver.
> 
> sudo /etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup


that doesn't exist on my system  I have

 /etc/init.d/vboxservice

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#14601

ruben safir wrote on 20. April 2015:
>
> On 03/24/2015 01:01 PM, James Moe wrote:
>>   You must rebuild the Vbox driver.
>> 
>> sudo /etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup
>
>
> that doesn't exist on my system  I have
>
>  /etc/init.d/vboxservice

What is

lsmod | grep box

printing out?
-- 
Andreas

I use a Unix based operating system, which means I get laid almost as often as I
have to reboot my computer.

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#14602

On 04/20/2015 08:42 AM, ruben safir wrote:
>> >   You must rebuild the Vbox driver.
>> > sudo /etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup
> 
> that doesn't exist on my system  I have
>  /etc/init.d/vboxservice
>
Here is what I have:
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root  6796 Mar  2 09:43 /etc/init.d/vboxautostart-service
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 10140 Mar  2 09:43
/etc/init.d/vboxballoonctrl-service
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 12680 Mar  2 09:43 /etc/init.d/vboxdrv
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root  9917 Mar  2 09:43 /etc/init.d/vboxweb-service

I suggest you take this to the VirtualBox website for more support.
https://forums.virtualbox.org/

How did you install VirtualBox?

-- 
James Moe
jmm-list at sohnen-moe dot com

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#14608

On 04/20/2015 06:10 PM, James Moe wrote:
> On 04/20/2015 08:42 AM, ruben safir wrote:
>>>>   You must rebuild the Vbox driver.
>>>> sudo /etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup
>>
>> that doesn't exist on my system  I have
>>  /etc/init.d/vboxservice
>>
> Here is what I have:
> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root  6796 Mar  2 09:43 /etc/init.d/vboxautostart-service
> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 10140 Mar  2 09:43
> /etc/init.d/vboxballoonctrl-service
> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 12680 Mar  2 09:43 /etc/init.d/vboxdrv
> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root  9917 Mar  2 09:43 /etc/init.d/vboxweb-service
> 
> I suggest you take this to the VirtualBox website for more support.
> https://forums.virtualbox.org/
> 
> How did you install VirtualBox?
> 

From the package manager

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#14609

On 21/04/15 10:18, ruben safir wrote:
> On 04/20/2015 06:10 PM, James Moe wrote:
>> On 04/20/2015 08:42 AM, ruben safir wrote:
>>>>>    You must rebuild the Vbox driver.
>>>>> sudo /etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup
>>>
>>> that doesn't exist on my system  I have
>>>   /etc/init.d/vboxservice
>>>
>> Here is what I have:
>> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root  6796 Mar  2 09:43 /etc/init.d/vboxautostart-service
>> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 10140 Mar  2 09:43
>> /etc/init.d/vboxballoonctrl-service
>> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 12680 Mar  2 09:43 /etc/init.d/vboxdrv
>> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root  9917 Mar  2 09:43 /etc/init.d/vboxweb-service
>>
>> I suggest you take this to the VirtualBox website for more support.
>> https://forums.virtualbox.org/
>>
>> How did you install VirtualBox?
>>
>
>  From the package manager
>
But IIRC you didnt install a new kernel that way?

New  kernels always result in a rebuild of the vbox drivers to match the 
exact kernel, if you install the kernel via the distro...


-- 
Everything you read in newspapers is absolutely true, except for the 
rare story of which you happen to have first-hand knowledge. – Erwin Knoll

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#14613

On 04/21/2015 06:49 AM, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> But IIRC you didnt install a new kernel that way?


you recall correctly but this kernel is a stock package, not the one I
was hacking on.

Ruben

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