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  How do I rid myself of this lock screen? T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2021-10-31 16:26 -0700
    Re: How do I rid myself of this lock screen? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-11-01 04:48 +0000
    Re: How do I rid myself of this lock screen? Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2021-11-01 15:08 +0000
      Re: How do I rid myself of this lock screen? John McCue <jmccue@fuzzball.mhome.org> - 2021-11-01 15:20 +0000
        Re: How do I rid myself of this lock screen? Andrea Croci <andrea.croci@gmx.de> - 2021-11-01 20:34 +0100
          Re: How do I rid myself of this lock screen? Aragorn <thorongil@telenet.be> - 2021-11-01 23:24 +0100
      Re: How do I rid myself of this lock screen? T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2021-11-01 16:01 -0700
        Re: How do I rid myself of this lock screen? Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-11-01 19:06 -0400
          Re: How do I rid myself of this lock screen? T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2021-11-01 19:57 -0700
            Re: How do I rid myself of this lock screen? Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-11-02 09:49 -0400
              Re: How do I rid myself of this lock screen? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-11-02 14:00 +0000
                Re: How do I rid myself of this lock screen? Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-11-02 20:45 -0400
              Re: How do I rid myself of this lock screen? T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2021-11-02 18:31 -0700
                Re: How do I rid myself of this lock screen? Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2021-11-05 19:18 +0000
                  Re: How do I rid myself of this lock screen? T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2021-11-05 17:37 -0700
                  Re: How do I rid myself of this lock screen? Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-11-06 04:02 -0400
                    Re: How do I rid myself of this lock screen? Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2021-11-06 10:07 +0000
                      Re: How do I rid myself of this lock screen? Bobbie Sellers <bliss@mouse-potato.com> - 2021-11-06 08:01 -0700
                      Re: How do I rid myself of this lock screen? Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-11-06 13:38 -0400
                        Re: How do I rid myself of this lock screen? Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2021-11-07 10:33 +0000
                          Re: How do I rid myself of this lock screen? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-11-07 12:18 +0000
                          Re: How do I rid myself of this lock screen? Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-11-07 16:04 -0500
                            Re: How do I rid myself of this lock screen? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-11-08 11:29 +0000
                            Re: How do I rid myself of this lock screen? Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2021-11-12 16:01 +0000
                              Re: How do I rid myself of this lock screen? Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-11-12 13:45 -0500
                                Re: How do I rid myself of this lock screen? Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2021-11-13 11:15 +0000
                        Re: How do I rid myself of this lock screen? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-11-07 12:17 +0000
                          Re: How do I rid myself of this lock screen? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-11-07 18:23 +0000
                            Re: How do I rid myself of this lock screen? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-11-08 11:22 +0000
                    Re: How do I rid myself of this lock screen? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-11-06 14:51 +0000
            Re: How do I rid myself of this lock screen? T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2021-11-02 20:02 -0700
        Re: How do I rid myself of this lock screen? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-11-02 08:39 +0000
    Re: How do I rid myself of this lock screen? 1p166 <z24ba6.net> - 2021-11-02 01:06 -0400
      Re: How do I rid myself of this lock screen? T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2021-11-01 22:36 -0700
        Re: How do I rid myself of this lock screen? 1p166 <z24ba6.net> - 2021-11-02 23:54 -0400
          Re: How do I rid myself of this lock screen? T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2021-11-02 21:37 -0700
            Re: How do I rid myself of this lock screen? 1p166 <z24ba6.net> - 2021-11-05 00:01 -0400
              Re: How do I rid myself of this lock screen? T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2021-11-05 03:35 -0700
                Re: How do I rid myself of this lock screen? 1p166 <z24ba6.net> - 2021-11-06 00:22 -0400

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#33488 — How do I rid myself of this lock screen?

Hi All,

Fedora 34
mate-desktop-1.26.0-1.fc34.x86_64

When I am in Mate, after a period of inactivity, I
get this annoying lock screen (if that is what it
is called).

https://ibb.co/5G7Qt73

I have set the screen saver to no lock and turned
power and hibernate off.

It does not happen when I am in Xfce 4.14

How do I rid myself of this annoyance?

Many thanks,
-T

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#33492

On 31/10/2021 23:26, T wrote:
> Hi All,
> 
> Fedora 34
> mate-desktop-1.26.0-1.fc34.x86_64
> 
> When I am in Mate, after a period of inactivity, I
> get this annoying lock screen (if that is what it
> is called).
> 
> https://ibb.co/5G7Qt73
> 
> I have set the screen saver to no lock and turned
> power and hibernate off.
> 
Then it doesn't happen.

The key sctrl panel-> screensaver->unlock when idle

Works on all my 3 MATE machines.


> It does not happen when I am in Xfce 4.14
> 
> How do I rid myself of this annoyance?
> 
> Many thanks,
> -T


-- 
“There are two ways to be fooled. One is to believe what isn’t true; the 
other is to refuse to believe what is true.”

—Soren Kierkegaard

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#33496

T <T@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> Fedora 34
> mate-desktop-1.26.0-1.fc34.x86_64
> 
> When I am in Mate, after a period of inactivity, I
> get this annoying lock screen (if that is what it
> is called).
> 
> How do I rid myself of this annoyance?

Don't use desktop environments.

Just launch a window manager, i.e., Fvwm2, and configure it to your 
liking.  It won't do anything behind your back that *you* did not 
explicitly configure it to do.

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#33497

Rich <rich@example.invalid> wrote:
> T <T@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>> Fedora 34
>> mate-desktop-1.26.0-1.fc34.x86_64
>> 
>> When I am in Mate, after a period of inactivity, I
>> get this annoying lock screen (if that is what it
>> is called).
>> 
>> How do I rid myself of this annoyance?
> 
> Don't use desktop environments.
> 
> Just launch a window manager, i.e., Fvwm2, and configure it to your 
> liking.  It won't do anything behind your back that *you* did not 
> explicitly configure it to do.

While I agree with you fully (using fvwm myself), most people
want fancy :)  Of course fvwm can be made to look like anything
and be very fancy with a bit if work.

To the OP, there are plenty of fvwm configs out there with prints
if you do want to try fvwm.  BTW, fvwm3 is the new version and
it is quite stable.

-- 
csh(1) - "An elegant shell, for a more... civilized age."
                     - Paraphrasing Star Wars

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#33504

On 01.11.21 16:20, John McCue wrote:
> Rich <rich@example.invalid> wrote:
>> T <T@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>> Fedora 34
>>> mate-desktop-1.26.0-1.fc34.x86_64
>>>
>>> When I am in Mate, after a period of inactivity, I
>>> get this annoying lock screen (if that is what it
>>> is called).
>>>
>>> How do I rid myself of this annoyance?
>>
>> Don't use desktop environments.
>>
>> Just launch a window manager, i.e., Fvwm2, and configure it to your
>> liking.  It won't do anything behind your back that *you* did not
>> explicitly configure it to do.
> 
> While I agree with you fully (using fvwm myself), most people
> want fancy :)  Of course fvwm can be made to look like anything
> and be very fancy with a bit if work.
> 
> To the OP, there are plenty of fvwm configs out there with prints
> if you do want to try fvwm.  BTW, fvwm3 is the new version and
> it is quite stable.
> 

I'd like someone to shed some light on the difference between "window 
manager" and "desktop environment". I have naively always thought they 
were the same thing.
I use the standard Ubuntu 20.04 with, I believe, Gnome. Where does that 
fall into?

Thanks

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#33506

On 01.11.2021 at 20:34, Andrea Croci scribbled:

> I'd like someone to shed some light on the difference between "window 
> manager" and "desktop environment". I have naively always thought
> they were the same thing.
> I use the standard Ubuntu 20.04 with, I believe, Gnome. Where does
> that fall into?

GNOME is a desktop environment, and desktop environments usually
include a window manager, albeit not always.  GNOME has already come
with many different window managers over the years, from Enlightenment
— which nowadays is a complete desktop environment in its own right —
over Sawfish to Mutter, and whatever else they fancy.

A desktop environment is a complete and more integrated environment,
with a whole set of applications that share the same look & feel.  

A window manager is much more rudimentary and doesn't concern itself
with whatever applications the user might be interested in.  It simply
allows for — as the name says — window management: window decorations
with window operations buttons, window placement, movement, resizing,
and switching between open windows.  Some include a panel with a task
bar of some sorts, but not all do, and most have some sort of menu that
can be invoked by clicking on a panel button or right-clicking on the
desktop background.


-- 
With respect,
= Aragorn =

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#33507

On 11/1/21 08:08, Rich wrote:
> T <T@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>> Fedora 34
>> mate-desktop-1.26.0-1.fc34.x86_64
>>
>> When I am in Mate, after a period of inactivity, I
>> get this annoying lock screen (if that is what it
>> is called).
>>
>> How do I rid myself of this annoyance?
> 
> Don't use desktop environments.
> 
> Just launch a window manager, i.e., Fvwm2, and configure it to your
> liking.  It won't do anything behind your back that *you* did not
> explicitly configure it to do.
> 

Hi Rich,

For those of us that are not so adventurous, is there
a way to tell Mate not to do this?

-T

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#33508

On Mon, 1 Nov 2021 16:01:41 -0700, T wrote:
>
> On 11/1/21 08:08, Rich wrote:
>> T <T@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>> Fedora 34
>>> mate-desktop-1.26.0-1.fc34.x86_64
>>>
>>> When I am in Mate, after a period of inactivity, I
>>> get this annoying lock screen (if that is what it
>>> is called).
>>>
>>> How do I rid myself of this annoyance?
>> Don't use desktop environments.
>> Just launch a window manager, i.e., Fvwm2, and configure it to your
>> liking.  It won't do anything behind your back that *you* did not
>> explicitly configure it to do.
>> 
>
> Hi Rich,
>
> For those of us that are not so adventurous, is there
> a way to tell Mate not to do this?

Some googling tells me

gsettings set org.mate.screensaver lock-enabled false

typed in a terminal.
-- 
Andreas

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#33509

On 11/1/21 16:06, Andreas Kohlbach wrote:
> On Mon, 1 Nov 2021 16:01:41 -0700, T wrote:
>>
>> On 11/1/21 08:08, Rich wrote:
>>> T <T@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>>> Fedora 34
>>>> mate-desktop-1.26.0-1.fc34.x86_64
>>>>
>>>> When I am in Mate, after a period of inactivity, I
>>>> get this annoying lock screen (if that is what it
>>>> is called).
>>>>
>>>> How do I rid myself of this annoyance?
>>> Don't use desktop environments.
>>> Just launch a window manager, i.e., Fvwm2, and configure it to your
>>> liking.  It won't do anything behind your back that *you* did not
>>> explicitly configure it to do.
>>>
>>
>> Hi Rich,
>>
>> For those of us that are not so adventurous, is there
>> a way to tell Mate not to do this?
> 
> Some googling tells me
> 
> gsettings set org.mate.screensaver lock-enabled false
> 
> typed in a terminal.
> 

Hi Andreas,

I found the stinking screensaver had been set to lock
yet again.  I am wondering if updates are doing this.
I must have set the stinker to false 30 times now!

$ /usr/bin/gsettings get org.mate.screensaver lock-enabled
false

Thank you for the command line method.  Me think
"start up" would be a good place to run it!

-T

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#33520

On Mon, 1 Nov 2021 19:57:47 -0700, T wrote:
>
> On 11/1/21 16:06, Andreas Kohlbach wrote:
>> On Mon, 1 Nov 2021 16:01:41 -0700, T wrote:
>>>
>>> For those of us that are not so adventurous, is there
>>> a way to tell Mate not to do this?
>> Some googling tells me
>> gsettings set org.mate.screensaver lock-enabled false
>> typed in a terminal.
>> 
>
> I found the stinking screensaver had been set to lock
> yet again.  I am wondering if updates are doing this.
> I must have set the stinker to false 30 times now!
>
> $ /usr/bin/gsettings get org.mate.screensaver lock-enabled
> false
>
> Thank you for the command line method.  Me think
> "start up" would be a good place to run it!

You don't need to use it in any "start up". Once executed, it is active
for all future session.

Just execute the line

gsettings set org.mate.screensaver lock-enabled false

in a terminal. That's all there is.
-- 
Andreas

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#33521

On 02/11/2021 13:49, Andreas Kohlbach wrote:
> On Mon, 1 Nov 2021 19:57:47 -0700, T wrote:
>>
>> On 11/1/21 16:06, Andreas Kohlbach wrote:
>>> On Mon, 1 Nov 2021 16:01:41 -0700, T wrote:
>>>>
>>>> For those of us that are not so adventurous, is there
>>>> a way to tell Mate not to do this?
>>> Some googling tells me
>>> gsettings set org.mate.screensaver lock-enabled false
>>> typed in a terminal.
>>>
>>
>> I found the stinking screensaver had been set to lock
>> yet again.  I am wondering if updates are doing this.
>> I must have set the stinker to false 30 times now!
>>
>> $ /usr/bin/gsettings get org.mate.screensaver lock-enabled
>> false
>>
>> Thank you for the command line method.  Me think
>> "start up" would be a good place to run it!
> 
> You don't need to use it in any "start up". Once executed, it is active
> for all future session.
> 
> Just execute the line
> 
> gsettings set org.mate.screensaver lock-enabled false
> 
> in a terminal. That's all there is.
> 
Ah, but T has already enabled something obscure that changes that line 
every time it boots.

So instead of finding out why he is the only man in the whole world 
whose screensaver resets to lock-enabled, he is looking for a way to 
reverse the *results* of his ignorant fiddling, rather than undo what he 
fiddled with.




-- 
"First, find out who are the people you can not criticise. They are your 
oppressors."
      - George Orwell

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#33523

On Tue, 2 Nov 2021 14:00:54 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>
> On 02/11/2021 13:49, Andreas Kohlbach wrote:
>> On Mon, 1 Nov 2021 19:57:47 -0700, T wrote:
>>>
>>> On 11/1/21 16:06, Andreas Kohlbach wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 1 Nov 2021 16:01:41 -0700, T wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> For those of us that are not so adventurous, is there
>>>>> a way to tell Mate not to do this?
>>>> Some googling tells me
>>>> gsettings set org.mate.screensaver lock-enabled false
>>>> typed in a terminal.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I found the stinking screensaver had been set to lock
>>> yet again.  I am wondering if updates are doing this.
>>> I must have set the stinker to false 30 times now!
>>>
>>> $ /usr/bin/gsettings get org.mate.screensaver lock-enabled
>>> false
>>>
>>> Thank you for the command line method.  Me think
>>> "start up" would be a good place to run it!
>> You don't need to use it in any "start up". Once executed, it is
>> active
>> for all future session.
>> Just execute the line
>> gsettings set org.mate.screensaver lock-enabled false
>> in a terminal. That's all there is.
>> 
> Ah, but T has already enabled something obscure that changes that line
> every time it boots.

Fine, if it works for him.

> So instead of finding out why he is the only man in the whole world
> whose screensaver resets to lock-enabled, he is looking for a way to 
> reverse the *results* of his ignorant fiddling, rather than undo what
> he fiddled with.

That might still be a default on his system (like in "it's not his
(de)fault". ;-)

Pun intended.
-- 
Andreas

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#33524

On 11/2/21 06:49, Andreas Kohlbach wrote:
> On Mon, 1 Nov 2021 19:57:47 -0700, T wrote:
>>
>> On 11/1/21 16:06, Andreas Kohlbach wrote:
>>> On Mon, 1 Nov 2021 16:01:41 -0700, T wrote:
>>>>
>>>> For those of us that are not so adventurous, is there
>>>> a way to tell Mate not to do this?
>>> Some googling tells me
>>> gsettings set org.mate.screensaver lock-enabled false
>>> typed in a terminal.
>>>
>>
>> I found the stinking screensaver had been set to lock
>> yet again.  I am wondering if updates are doing this.
>> I must have set the stinker to false 30 times now!
>>
>> $ /usr/bin/gsettings get org.mate.screensaver lock-enabled
>> false
>>
>> Thank you for the command line method.  Me think
>> "start up" would be a good place to run it!
> 
> You don't need to use it in any "start up". Once executed, it is active
> for all future session.
> 
> Just execute the line
> 
> gsettings set org.mate.screensaver lock-enabled false
> 
> in a terminal. That's all there is.
> 

I experimented with it in the screen save UI and the
command line and the UI both update each other.

I am wondering who turned it back on.  I am thinking
it was an update to the screen saver.  I will check
the names of my updates a little closer, then double chect with

/usr/bin/gsettings get org.mate.screensaver lock-enabled

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#33595

Le 03-11-2021, T <T@invalid.invalid> a écrit :
>
> I am wondering who turned it back on.

Not me.

-- 
Si vous avez du temps à perdre :
https://scarpet42.gitlab.io

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#33596

On 11/5/21 12:18, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:
> Le 03-11-2021, T <T@invalid.invalid> a écrit :
>>
>> I am wondering who turned it back on.
> 
> Not me.
> 

Ha!  I KNOW is was YOU! Admit!  Admit!  Admit!
The sooner you do, the GUILT will relieve
itself  !!!!

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#33598

On 05 Nov 2021 19:18:25 GMT, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:
>
> Le 03-11-2021, T <T@invalid.invalid> a écrit :
>>
>> I am wondering who turned it back on.

Who was it, Shaggy?

> Not me.

The answer needs to be "It wasn't me". ;-)
-- 
Andreas

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#33599

Le 06-11-2021, Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> a écrit :
> On 05 Nov 2021 19:18:25 GMT, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:
>>
>> Le 03-11-2021, T <T@invalid.invalid> a écrit :
>>>
>>> I am wondering who turned it back on.
>
> Who was it, Shaggy?
>
>> Not me.
>
> The answer needs to be "It wasn't me". ;-)

No, because it stand for both sentences at the same time: "It wasn't
me." and "I'm not wondering.", there may be a better way to put it, but
I'm not fluent enough in English to improve it.

-- 
Si vous avez du temps à perdre :
https://scarpet42.gitlab.io

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#33601

On 11/6/21 03:07, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:
> Le 06-11-2021, Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> a écrit :
>> On 05 Nov 2021 19:18:25 GMT, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:
>>>
>>> Le 03-11-2021, T <T@invalid.invalid> a écrit :
>>>>
>>>> I am wondering who turned it back on.
>>
>> Who was it, Shaggy?
>>
>>> Not me.
>>
>> The answer needs to be "It wasn't me". ;-)
> 
> No, because it stand for both sentences at the same time: "It wasn't
> me." and "I'm not wondering.", there may be a better way to put it, but
> I'm not fluent enough in English to improve it.
> 
	I dunno know and don't care who did it.
	Now if it was turned off it was the small child trying to save
electricity.  It may have been the small child and they meant to turn
off the machine but did not do it properly.

bliss-“Nearly any fool can use a GNU/Linux computer. Many do.”
           After all here I am...

-- 
bliss dash SF 4 ever at dslextreme dot com

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#33602

On 06 Nov 2021 10:07:41 GMT, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:
>
> Le 06-11-2021, Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> a écrit :
>>
>> Who was it, Shaggy?
>>
>>> Not me.
>>
>> The answer needs to be "It wasn't me". ;-)
>
> No, because it stand for both sentences at the same time: "It wasn't
> me." and "I'm not wondering.", there may be a better way to put it, but
> I'm not fluent enough in English to improve it.

You probably don't know that SONG then - which I just notice is 21 years
old already! Where did the time go?

<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_x6QmuJdms> (might not work in all countries)
-- 
Andreas

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#33604

Le 06-11-2021, Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> a écrit :
> On 06 Nov 2021 10:07:41 GMT, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:
>>
>> Le 06-11-2021, Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> a écrit :
>>>
>>> Who was it, Shaggy?
>>>
>>>> Not me.
>>>
>>> The answer needs to be "It wasn't me". ;-)
>>
>> No, because it stand for both sentences at the same time: "It wasn't
>> me." and "I'm not wondering.", there may be a better way to put it, but
>> I'm not fluent enough in English to improve it.
>
> You probably don't know that SONG then - which I just notice is 21 years
> old already! Where did the time go?
>
><https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_x6QmuJdms> (might not work in all countries)

Effectively, I didn't knew this song and I'll forget it in the next few
minutes. It's really not my kind of song.

-- 
Si vous avez du temps à perdre :
https://scarpet42.gitlab.io

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