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| Started by | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| First post | 2025-07-16 13:44 +0200 |
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Trouble with laptop display "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-16 13:44 +0200
Re: Trouble with laptop display Marco Moock <mm@dorfdsl.de> - 2025-07-16 14:00 +0200
Re: Trouble with laptop display Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2025-07-16 13:22 +0100
Re: Trouble with laptop display "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-16 20:43 +0200
Re: Trouble with laptop display Marco Moock <mm@dorfdsl.de> - 2025-07-17 08:06 +0200
Re: Trouble with laptop display "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-17 12:16 +0200
Re: Trouble with laptop display Arkadiusz 'Black Fox' Artyszuk <blackfox_pl@protonmail.com> - 2025-07-16 14:20 +0200
Re: Trouble with laptop display Robert Heller <heller@deepsoft.com> - 2025-07-16 12:39 +0000
Re: Trouble with laptop display Herbert Kleebauer <klee@unibwm.de> - 2025-07-16 14:43 +0200
Re: Trouble with laptop display Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-07-16 10:29 -0400
Re: Trouble with laptop display "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-16 20:42 +0200
Re: Trouble with laptop display The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-16 16:49 +0100
Re: Trouble with laptop display VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-07-16 11:52 -0500
Re: Trouble with laptop display "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-16 20:41 +0200
Re: Trouble with laptop display Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2025-07-16 21:11 +0100
Re: Trouble with laptop display Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-07-16 17:21 -0400
Re: Trouble with laptop display "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-07-16 20:12 +0100
Re: Trouble with laptop display Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-07-16 17:15 -0400
Re: Trouble with laptop display not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2025-07-17 09:10 +1000
Re: Trouble with laptop display Jack <Jack@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-16 19:09 +0000
Re: Trouble with laptop display "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-16 22:30 +0200
Re: Trouble with laptop display Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-07-16 16:58 -0700
Re: Trouble with laptop display Robert Heller <heller@deepsoft.com> - 2025-07-17 01:58 +0000
Re: Trouble with laptop display Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-07-17 03:29 +0000
Re: Trouble with laptop display "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-17 12:21 +0200
Re: Trouble with laptop display VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-07-16 18:12 -0500
Re: Trouble with laptop display Paul in Houston TX <Paul@Houston.Texas> - 2025-07-16 20:42 -0500
Re: Trouble with laptop display "J.O. Aho" <user@example.net> - 2025-07-17 08:34 +0200
Re: Trouble with laptop display c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-07-17 03:37 -0400
Re: Trouble with laptop display "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-07-17 10:16 +0100
Re: Trouble with laptop display "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-17 13:00 +0200
Re: Trouble with laptop display The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-17 13:50 +0100
Re: Trouble with laptop display "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-07-17 17:04 +0100
Re: Trouble with laptop display VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-07-17 13:11 -0500
Re: Trouble with laptop display "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-17 20:25 +0200
Re: Trouble with laptop display The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-17 19:58 +0100
Re: Trouble with laptop display "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-18 08:51 +0200
Re: Trouble with laptop display Simon <SimonJ@eu.invalid> - 2025-07-18 06:04 +0000
Re: Trouble with laptop display The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-18 11:12 +0100
Re: Trouble with laptop display "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-18 12:48 +0200
Re: Trouble with laptop display The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-18 13:31 +0100
Re: Trouble with laptop display The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-17 19:57 +0100
Re: Trouble with laptop display The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-17 19:50 +0100
Re: Trouble with laptop display VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-07-17 13:04 -0500
Re: Trouble with laptop display "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-17 20:29 +0200
Re: Trouble with laptop display The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-17 19:56 +0100
Re: Trouble with laptop display "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-18 09:01 +0200
Re: Trouble with laptop display The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-18 11:14 +0100
Re: Trouble with laptop display "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-18 12:26 +0200
Re: Trouble with laptop display The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-18 13:29 +0100
Re: Trouble with laptop display "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-18 21:18 +0200
Re: Trouble with laptop display VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-07-17 16:22 -0500
Re: Trouble with laptop display "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-18 09:13 +0200
Re: Trouble with laptop display "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-07-18 10:53 +0100
Re: Trouble with laptop display VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-07-18 18:47 -0500
Re: Trouble with laptop display "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-19 02:12 +0200
Re: Trouble with laptop display Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> - 2025-07-18 19:53 -0500
Re: Trouble with laptop display VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-07-18 20:45 -0500
Re: Trouble with laptop display Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> - 2025-07-18 21:22 -0500
mini-PC (was: Trouble with laptop display) Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-07-18 19:58 +0000
Re: mini-PC "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-18 22:28 +0200
Re: mini-PC (was: Trouble with laptop display) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-07-18 23:38 -0400
Re: Trouble with laptop display Robert <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-17 21:56 +0000
Re: Trouble with laptop display "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-18 09:49 +0200
Re: Trouble with laptop display "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-18 11:08 +0200
Re: Trouble with laptop display The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-18 11:11 +0100
Re: Trouble with laptop display "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-18 12:22 +0200
Re: Trouble with laptop display Jack <Jack@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-18 20:24 +0000
Re: Trouble with laptop display The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-18 22:05 +0100
Re: Trouble with laptop display Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-07-18 18:31 -0400
Re: Trouble with laptop display The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-19 00:50 +0100
Re: Trouble with laptop display "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-07-19 01:35 +0100
Re: Trouble with laptop display Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-07-18 19:42 -0700
Re: Trouble with laptop display "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-19 15:11 +0200
Re: Trouble with laptop display Simon <SimonJ@eu.invalid> - 2025-07-19 13:36 +0000
Re: Trouble with laptop display not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2025-07-20 09:55 +1000
Re: Trouble with laptop display rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-07-20 02:02 +0000
Re: Trouble with laptop display Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-07-20 21:10 +1000
Re: Trouble with laptop display Simon <SimonJ@eu.invalid> - 2025-07-20 05:00 +0000
Re: Trouble with laptop display Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-07-19 21:43 -0700
Re: Trouble with laptop display rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-07-20 05:29 +0000
Re: Trouble with laptop display Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-07-20 07:34 -0400
Re: Trouble with laptop display "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-20 21:04 +0200
Re: Trouble with laptop display Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-07-20 14:40 -0700
Re: Trouble with laptop display Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-07-20 20:43 -0400
Re: Trouble with laptop display rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-07-21 04:42 +0000
Re: Trouble with laptop display rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-07-20 19:50 +0000
Re: Trouble with laptop display Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-07-21 19:41 +1000
Re: Trouble with laptop display "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-21 12:16 +0200
Re: Trouble with laptop display Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-07-21 22:26 +1000
Re: Trouble with laptop display Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-07-21 17:35 +0000
Re: Trouble with laptop display "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-21 19:55 +0200
Re: Trouble with laptop display Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-07-21 17:37 -0400
Re: Trouble with laptop display "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-22 00:36 +0200
Re: Trouble with laptop display Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-07-22 19:57 +1000
Re: Trouble with laptop display "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-22 12:08 +0200
Re: Trouble with laptop display Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-07-22 21:38 +1000
Re: Trouble with laptop display The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-22 12:46 +0100
Re: Trouble with laptop display The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-20 12:54 +0100
Re: Trouble with laptop display "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-20 20:55 +0200
Re: Trouble with laptop display The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-20 20:22 +0100
Re: Trouble with laptop display rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-07-20 19:54 +0000
Re: Trouble with laptop display Simon <SimonJ@eu.invalid> - 2025-07-21 09:02 +0000
Re: Trouble with laptop display Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-07-19 21:44 -0700
Re: Trouble with laptop display Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2025-07-20 13:41 +0100
Re: Trouble with laptop display "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-07-20 17:52 +0100
Re: Trouble with laptop display "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-20 21:05 +0200
Re: Trouble with laptop display rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-07-20 19:56 +0000
Re: Trouble with laptop display Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2025-07-21 12:55 +0100
Re: Trouble with laptop display Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-07-20 15:00 -0700
Re: Trouble with laptop display Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2025-07-22 02:43 +0000
Re: Trouble with laptop display "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-18 23:25 +0200
Re: Trouble with laptop display "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-19 00:07 +0200
Re: Trouble with laptop display - drm ebook fallout "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-06 14:29 +0200
Re: Trouble with laptop display - drm ebook fallout Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-08-06 18:04 +0000
Re: Trouble with laptop display - drm ebook fallout "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-06 20:33 +0200
Re: Trouble with laptop display - drm ebook fallout "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-08-06 23:39 +0100
Re: Trouble with laptop display - drm ebook fallout Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-08-07 00:36 +0000
Re: Trouble with laptop display - drm ebook fallout rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-07 01:53 +0000
Re: Trouble with laptop display - drm ebook fallout "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-07 13:53 +0200
Re: Trouble with laptop display - drm ebook fallout Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-08-07 20:01 +1000
Re: Trouble with laptop display - drm ebook fallout "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-08-07 13:05 +0100
Re: Trouble with laptop display The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-18 11:08 +0100
Re: Trouble with laptop display "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-18 21:22 +0200
Re: Trouble with laptop display Jasen Betts <usenet@revmaps.no-ip.org> - 2025-10-22 11:04 +0000
Re: Trouble with laptop display "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-22 13:44 +0200
Re: Trouble with laptop display The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-22 12:52 +0100
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-07-18 13:31 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <105derh$221c0$5@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #69717 |
On 18/07/2025 11:48, Carlos E.R. wrote: > On 2025-07-18 12:12, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >> On 18/07/2025 07:04, Simon wrote: >>> On Thu, 17 Jul 2025 20:25:18 +0200, Carlos E.R. wrote: >>> >>>> On 2025-07-17 20:11, VanguardLH wrote: >>>>> "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Trouble is, Carlos wants good speakers, and that's probably hard to >>>>>> judge online - unless he can find one of the same model that's broken >>>>>> in some other way (no HD, smashed keyboard, etc.) but with a working >>>>>> display. >>>>> >>>>> Use ear buds or headphones, and Bluetooth if you don't want to bother >>>>> with a cord. I don't recall ever thinking "Gee, that laptop (or >>>>> monitor) has really great audio". Those are useful as backups during >>>>> the interim to fix a problem with real audio hardware. >>>> >>>> I thought of that. >>>> >>>> I have a very good pair of BT headphones, noise cancel. They were >>>> expensive. Sennheiser. The rubber pad is already wearing out, making me >>>> think if they are replaceable. >>>> >>>> The thing is, my ear lobes sweat with them even when sat on the couch, >>>> so imagine while doing exercise. >>>> >>>> And they itch. My ear lobes, and not only the parts touching the >>>> rubber, >>>> but the entry to the ear canal, itch badly! >>> >>> I make a point of buying headphones with fabric not vinyl or rubber. No >>> sweat and they are comfortable for hours at a go. >>> >> Ah. I am on the point of puchasing some, and that is a very useful tip >> Thank you. > > I am very happy otherwise with those headphones. They are the first I > buy with noise cancellation; it makes a huge difference in an airplane. > The cushioning alone maintains out a good part of the noise; then power > them up and another big portion goes out. But it causes my ears to itch > in summer at least, and the soft rubber degrades. > > I now use them to watch the telly at the sitting room. I have there a > cheap portable AC machine which roars. I have to push the TV volume > almost all the way up, and I miss what they say when they speak softly. > So those earphones make a tremendous difference. The TV set is new (LG) > and has bluetooth. > I need them to avoid bothering other patients every time I end up in the local hospital which has been far more than I would have liked recently... The laptop is a godsend to alleviate the boredom.. -- Climate Change: Socialism wearing a lab coat.
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-07-17 19:57 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <105bh1v$1gdtr$7@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #69682 |
On 17/07/2025 19:11, VanguardLH wrote: > "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> wrote: > >> Trouble is, Carlos wants good speakers, and that's probably hard to >> judge online - unless he can find one of the same model that's broken >> in some other way (no HD, smashed keyboard, etc.) but with a working >> display. > > Use ear buds or headphones, and Bluetooth if you don't want to bother > with a cord. I don't recall ever thinking "Gee, that laptop (or > monitor) has really great audio". Those are useful as backups during > the interim to fix a problem with real audio hardware. Indeed. I 100% agree. I must get some decent headphones that don't cost the farm.. -- If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State. Joseph Goebbels
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-07-17 19:50 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <105bgkv$1gdtr$5@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #69680 |
On 17/07/2025 17:04, J. P. Gilliver wrote: > Trouble is, Carlos wants good speakers, and that's probably hard to > judge online - unless he can find one of the same model that's broken in > some other way (no HD, smashed keyboard, etc.) but with a working display. Well my HP laptop ain't bad, but if I want GOOD speakers...I have a pair of thoroughly unportable 3 way studio monitors... Otherwise headphones if you want quality sound on a laptop. -- Future generations will wonder in bemused amazement that the early twenty-first century’s developed world went into hysterical panic over a globally average temperature increase of a few tenths of a degree, and, on the basis of gross exaggerations of highly uncertain computer projections combined into implausible chains of inference, proceeded to contemplate a rollback of the industrial age. Richard Lindzen
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| From | VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> |
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| Date | 2025-07-17 13:04 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <12rknawev4464.dlg@v.nguard.lh> |
| In reply to | #69677 |
"Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote: > I don't feel up to doing it myself, I would need to find a shop willing > to do it. The laptop has seen 14 years of service, so whether this is > worthwhile I have my doubts. It was a good purchase and served me well. > Maybe cheaper to buy something else. A screen repair would probably cost $100 in labor, plus the cost of the parts. You can buy refurbished or used old laptops for under $100; however, I'd go with slightly higher specs than your old one for a replacement. The specs aren't high on your old Compaq Presario CQ61-330SS: Pentium Dual-Core CPU, 15.6" 1366x768 screen, 4GB DDR2 RAM, 500GB drive, Win7 Home x64 pre-installed. https://www.newegg.com/p/pl?N=100006740%20600566986%20601394668%20600004798%20600004803%20600004804%20600165638%20601400071%20601296059%204823%204016&d=laptop&Order=1 short URL: https://tinyurl.com/usedlaps1newegg If Windows is not a necessity (no Win apps/programs needed, mostly web stuff using web apps or a few local apps), a used/refurbished Chromebook is even cheaper. I have an aunt who thought she could only use Windows, but all she ever did with her Win7 notebook was web-centric stuff (web browser, e-mail), and local ChromeOS apps covered what she wanted for local apps, and there was hardly any learning curve (they dole these things to highschoolers with no training), so for a mobile computer it did everything she wanted, and easy for her to figure out. https://www.newegg.com/p/pl?N=600514773%20100006740%204016%204823%20600004798%20600004804&d=laptop&Order=1 short URL: https://tinyurl.com/usedlaps2newegg I can't see someone watching a laptop while exercising on a stationary bike needs to be doing word processing, graphical editing, or anything of much strain on the hardware.
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| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-07-17 20:29 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <q1snklx5af.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> |
| In reply to | #69681 |
On 2025-07-17 20:04, VanguardLH wrote: > "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote: ... > https://www.newegg.com/p/pl?N=600514773%20100006740%204016%204823%20600004798%20600004804&d=laptop&Order=1 > short URL: https://tinyurl.com/usedlaps2newegg > > I can't see someone watching a laptop while exercising on a stationary > bike needs to be doing word processing, graphical editing, or anything > of much strain on the hardware. Oh, some videos overload another one of my laptops (too small, Lenovo, fanless) and my mini-PC MSI Cubi N aka acting server. I did not try on the Compaq. Usually videos done at 4K and/or h265. Some youtubes overload firefox on those machines and can't watch at full screen. -- Cheers, Carlos.
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-07-17 19:56 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <105bh00$1gdtr$6@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #69684 |
On 17/07/2025 19:29, Carlos E.R. wrote: > On 2025-07-17 20:04, VanguardLH wrote: >> "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote: > > ... > > >> https://www.newegg.com/p/pl?N=600514773%20100006740%204016%204823%20600004798%20600004804&d=laptop&Order=1 >> short URL: https://tinyurl.com/usedlaps2newegg >> >> I can't see someone watching a laptop while exercising on a stationary >> bike needs to be doing word processing, graphical editing, or anything >> of much strain on the hardware. > > Oh, some videos overload another one of my laptops (too small, Lenovo, > fanless) and my mini-PC MSI Cubi N aka acting server. I did not try on > the Compaq. Usually videos done at 4K and/or h265. Some youtubes > overload firefox on those machines and can't watch at full screen. > Its hard to get 4k on a lappy anyway - the pixels count is generally too small. I can confirm that intel integrated chipset on my HP will fill a full HD screen (1920x 1080) at anyrate and keep up with U tube. U tube generally allows you to select non-4k though -- If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State. Joseph Goebbels
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| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-07-18 09:01 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <k28pklxvn4.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> |
| In reply to | #69686 |
On 2025-07-17 20:56, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > On 17/07/2025 19:29, Carlos E.R. wrote: >> On 2025-07-17 20:04, VanguardLH wrote: >>> "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote: >> >> ... >> >> >>> https://www.newegg.com/p/pl? >>> N=600514773%20100006740%204016%204823%20600004798%20600004804&d=laptop&Order=1 >>> short URL: https://tinyurl.com/usedlaps2newegg >>> >>> I can't see someone watching a laptop while exercising on a stationary >>> bike needs to be doing word processing, graphical editing, or anything >>> of much strain on the hardware. >> >> Oh, some videos overload another one of my laptops (too small, Lenovo, >> fanless) and my mini-PC MSI Cubi N aka acting server. I did not try on >> the Compaq. Usually videos done at 4K and/or h265. Some youtubes >> overload firefox on those machines and can't watch at full screen. >> > Its hard to get 4k on a lappy anyway - the pixels count is generally too > small. No, of course, the player (vlc normally) does a down conversion on the fly. With some files, the result is sound with no video. > I can confirm that intel integrated chipset on my HP will fill a full HD > screen (1920x 1080) at anyrate and keep up with U tube. My hardware has Intel inside, except the two recent incumbents: the main desktop machine and the normal laptops both have AMD and both cope very well. Intel does bad maintenance in Linux of some chipsets. > > U tube generally allows you to select non-4k though It was certainly using an adequate resolution for the display, but not copying well, it stutters with some videos. -- Cheers, Carlos.
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-07-18 11:14 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <105d6pp$1voed$13@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #69704 |
On 18/07/2025 08:01, Carlos E.R. wrote: > On 2025-07-17 20:56, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >> On 17/07/2025 19:29, Carlos E.R. wrote: >>> On 2025-07-17 20:04, VanguardLH wrote: >>>> "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote: >>> >>> ... >>> >>> >>>> https://www.newegg.com/p/pl? >>>> N=600514773%20100006740%204016%204823%20600004798%20600004804&d=laptop&Order=1 >>>> short URL: https://tinyurl.com/usedlaps2newegg >>>> >>>> I can't see someone watching a laptop while exercising on a stationary >>>> bike needs to be doing word processing, graphical editing, or anything >>>> of much strain on the hardware. >>> >>> Oh, some videos overload another one of my laptops (too small, >>> Lenovo, fanless) and my mini-PC MSI Cubi N aka acting server. I did >>> not try on the Compaq. Usually videos done at 4K and/or h265. Some >>> youtubes overload firefox on those machines and can't watch at full >>> screen. >>> >> Its hard to get 4k on a lappy anyway - the pixels count is generally >> too small. > > No, of course, the player (vlc normally) does a down conversion on the > fly. With some files, the result is sound with no video. > >> I can confirm that intel integrated chipset on my HP will fill a full >> HD screen (1920x 1080) at anyrate and keep up with U tube. > > My hardware has Intel inside, except the two recent incumbents: the main > desktop machine and the normal laptops both have AMD and both cope very > well. > > Intel does bad maintenance in Linux of some chipsets. > >> >> U tube generally allows you to select non-4k though > > It was certainly using an adequate resolution for the display, but not > copying well, it stutters with some videos. > Mmm. Got enough internet bandwidth? Sometoimes pausing, and resuming allows the buffering to become larger -- Microsoft : the best reason to go to Linux that ever existed.
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| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-07-18 12:26 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <p2kpklxmvm.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> |
| In reply to | #69714 |
On 2025-07-18 12:14, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > On 18/07/2025 08:01, Carlos E.R. wrote: >> On 2025-07-17 20:56, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >>> On 17/07/2025 19:29, Carlos E.R. wrote: >>>> On 2025-07-17 20:04, VanguardLH wrote: >>>>> "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote: >>>> >>>> ... >>>> >>>> >>>>> https://www.newegg.com/p/pl? >>>>> N=600514773%20100006740%204016%204823%20600004798%20600004804&d=laptop&Order=1 >>>>> short URL: https://tinyurl.com/usedlaps2newegg >>>>> >>>>> I can't see someone watching a laptop while exercising on a stationary >>>>> bike needs to be doing word processing, graphical editing, or anything >>>>> of much strain on the hardware. >>>> >>>> Oh, some videos overload another one of my laptops (too small, >>>> Lenovo, fanless) and my mini-PC MSI Cubi N aka acting server. I did >>>> not try on the Compaq. Usually videos done at 4K and/or h265. Some >>>> youtubes overload firefox on those machines and can't watch at full >>>> screen. >>>> >>> Its hard to get 4k on a lappy anyway - the pixels count is generally >>> too small. >> >> No, of course, the player (vlc normally) does a down conversion on the >> fly. With some files, the result is sound with no video. >> >>> I can confirm that intel integrated chipset on my HP will fill a full >>> HD screen (1920x 1080) at anyrate and keep up with U tube. >> >> My hardware has Intel inside, except the two recent incumbents: the >> main desktop machine and the normal laptops both have AMD and both >> cope very well. >> >> Intel does bad maintenance in Linux of some chipsets. >> >>> >>> U tube generally allows you to select non-4k though >> >> It was certainly using an adequate resolution for the display, but not >> copying well, it stutters with some videos. >> > Mmm. Got enough internet bandwidth? Fibre to the home, 1 gig. Also 1Gbit ethernet and switches. > Sometoimes pausing, and resuming allows the buffering to become larger No, it is the cpu not coping with the decoding. -- Cheers, Carlos.
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-07-18 13:29 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <105denm$221c0$4@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #69716 |
On 18/07/2025 11:26, Carlos E.R. wrote: > On 2025-07-18 12:14, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >> On 18/07/2025 08:01, Carlos E.R. wrote: >>> On 2025-07-17 20:56, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >>>> On 17/07/2025 19:29, Carlos E.R. wrote: >>>>> On 2025-07-17 20:04, VanguardLH wrote: >>>>>> "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> ... >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> https://www.newegg.com/p/pl? >>>>>> N=600514773%20100006740%204016%204823%20600004798%20600004804&d=laptop&Order=1 >>>>>> short URL: https://tinyurl.com/usedlaps2newegg >>>>>> >>>>>> I can't see someone watching a laptop while exercising on a >>>>>> stationary >>>>>> bike needs to be doing word processing, graphical editing, or >>>>>> anything >>>>>> of much strain on the hardware. >>>>> >>>>> Oh, some videos overload another one of my laptops (too small, >>>>> Lenovo, fanless) and my mini-PC MSI Cubi N aka acting server. I did >>>>> not try on the Compaq. Usually videos done at 4K and/or h265. Some >>>>> youtubes overload firefox on those machines and can't watch at full >>>>> screen. >>>>> >>>> Its hard to get 4k on a lappy anyway - the pixels count is generally >>>> too small. >>> >>> No, of course, the player (vlc normally) does a down conversion on >>> the fly. With some files, the result is sound with no video. >>> >>>> I can confirm that intel integrated chipset on my HP will fill a >>>> full HD screen (1920x 1080) at anyrate and keep up with U tube. >>> >>> My hardware has Intel inside, except the two recent incumbents: the >>> main desktop machine and the normal laptops both have AMD and both >>> cope very well. >>> >>> Intel does bad maintenance in Linux of some chipsets. >>> >>>> >>>> U tube generally allows you to select non-4k though >>> >>> It was certainly using an adequate resolution for the display, but >>> not copying well, it stutters with some videos. >>> >> Mmm. Got enough internet bandwidth? > > Fibre to the home, 1 gig. Also 1Gbit ethernet and switches. > >> Sometoimes pausing, and resuming allows the buffering to become larger > > No, it is the cpu not coping with the decoding. > What was the CPU, again? Ive not had that problem since the Pentium days with no graphics card... Well OK raspberry Pis suffer from it too, but I don't use them as desktops,,,yet > -- Karl Marx said religion is the opium of the people. But Marxism is the crack cocaine.
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| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-07-18 21:18 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <v9jqklx8h2.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> |
| In reply to | #69718 |
On 2025-07-18 14:29, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> On 18/07/2025 11:26, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>> On 2025-07-18 12:14, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>> On 18/07/2025 08:01, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>>> On 2025-07-17 20:56, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>>>> On 17/07/2025 19:29, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>>>>> On 2025-07-17 20:04, VanguardLH wrote:
>>>>>>> "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://www.newegg.com/p/pl?
>>>>>>> N=600514773%20100006740%204016%204823%20600004798%20600004804&d=laptop&Order=1
>>>>>>> short URL: https://tinyurl.com/usedlaps2newegg
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I can't see someone watching a laptop while exercising on a
>>>>>>> stationary
>>>>>>> bike needs to be doing word processing, graphical editing, or
>>>>>>> anything
>>>>>>> of much strain on the hardware.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Oh, some videos overload another one of my laptops (too small,
>>>>>> Lenovo, fanless) and my mini-PC MSI Cubi N aka acting server. I
>>>>>> did not try on the Compaq. Usually videos done at 4K and/or h265.
>>>>>> Some youtubes overload firefox on those machines and can't watch
>>>>>> at full screen.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Its hard to get 4k on a lappy anyway - the pixels count is
>>>>> generally too small.
>>>>
>>>> No, of course, the player (vlc normally) does a down conversion on
>>>> the fly. With some files, the result is sound with no video.
>>>>
>>>>> I can confirm that intel integrated chipset on my HP will fill a
>>>>> full HD screen (1920x 1080) at anyrate and keep up with U tube.
>>>>
>>>> My hardware has Intel inside, except the two recent incumbents: the
>>>> main desktop machine and the normal laptops both have AMD and both
>>>> cope very well.
>>>>
>>>> Intel does bad maintenance in Linux of some chipsets.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> U tube generally allows you to select non-4k though
>>>>
>>>> It was certainly using an adequate resolution for the display, but
>>>> not copying well, it stutters with some videos.
>>>>
>>> Mmm. Got enough internet bandwidth?
>>
>> Fibre to the home, 1 gig. Also 1Gbit ethernet and switches.
>>
>>> Sometoimes pausing, and resuming allows the buffering to become larger
>>
>> No, it is the cpu not coping with the decoding.
>>
> What was the CPU, again? Ive not had that problem since the Pentium days
> with no graphics card...
>
> Well OK raspberry Pis suffer from it too, but I don't use them as
> desktops,,,yet
Isengard:~ # inxi -C -GSaz --za --vs
inxi 3.3.31-00 (2023-11-02)
System:
Kernel: 6.4.0-150600.23.53-default arch: x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc
v: 7.5.0 clocksource: tsc available: acpi_pm
parameters: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-6.4.0-150600.23.53-default
root=UUID=<filter> showopts splash=verbose resume=/dev/disk/by-label/Swap
verbose mitigations=auto
Desktop: Xfce v: 4.20.1 tk: Gtk v: 3.24.43 info: xfce4-panel wm: xfwm
v: 4.20.0 dm: 1: GDM v: 45.0.1 2: SDDM note: stopped
Distro: openSUSE Leap 15.6
CPU:
Info: model: Intel Pentium N3710 socket: BGA1155 bits: 64 type: MCP
arch: Airmont level: v2 built: 2015-17 process: Intel 14nm family: 6
model-id: 0x4C (76) stepping: 4 microcode: 0x411
Topology: cpus: 1x cores: 4 smt: <unsupported> cache: L1: 224 KiB
desc: d-4x24 KiB; i-4x32 KiB L2: 2 MiB desc: 2x1024 KiB
Speed (MHz): avg: 480 min/max: 480/2560 base/boost: 1600/2400 scaling:
driver: intel_pstate governor: powersave volts: 1.2 V ext-clock: 80 MHz
cores: 1: 480 2: 480 3: 480 4: 480 bogomips: 12800
Flags: ht lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 vmx
Vulnerabilities: <filter>
Graphics:
Device-1: Intel Atom/Celeron/Pentium Processor x5-E8000/J3xxx/N3xxx
Integrated Graphics vendor: Micro-Star MSI driver: i915 v: kernel
arch: Gen-8 process: Intel 14nm built: 2014-15 ports: active: HDMI-A-3
empty: DP-1, DP-2, DP-3, HDMI-A-1, HDMI-A-2 bus-ID: 00:02.0
chip-ID: 8086:22b1 class-ID: 0300
Display: server: X.Org v: 1.21.1.11 with: Xwayland v: 24.1.1
compositor: xfwm v: 4.20.0 driver: X: loaded: intel dri: iris gpu: i915
display-ID: localhost:10.0 screens: 1
Screen-1: 0 s-res: 1920x1080 s-dpi: 96 s-size: 509x286mm (20.04x11.26")
s-diag: 584mm (22.99")
Monitor-1: HDMI-A-3 mapped: DVI-D-0 model: Samsung T22C350 built: 2012
res: 1920x1080 hz: 60 dpi: 92 gamma: 1.2 size: 531x298mm (20.91x11.73")
diag: 547mm (21.5") ratio: 16:9 modes: max: 1920x1080 min: 720x400
API: OpenGL v: 4.5 vendor: mesa v: 23.3.4 glx-v: 1.4 es-v: 3.2
direct-render: yes renderer: llvmpipe (LLVM 17.0.6 128 bits)
device-ID: ffffffff:ffffffff memory: 7.44 GiB unified: yes
API: Vulkan v: 1.3.275 layers: 1 device: 0 type: integrated-gpu name: Intel
HD Graphics 405 (BSW) driver: N/A device-ID: 8086:22b1 surfaces: xcb,xlib
API: EGL Message: EGL data requires eglinfo. Check --recommends.
Isengard:~ #
That's the mini-pc aka mini server machine, which I also use to watch videos in my computer room.
And below is the small Lenovo laptop in the sitting room:
Legolas:~ # inxi -C -GSaz --za --vs
inxi 3.3.38-00 (2025-04-06)
System:
Kernel: 6.4.0-150600.23.38-default arch: x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc
v: 7.5.0 clocksource: tsc avail: acpi_pm
parameters: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-6.4.0-150600.23.38-default
root=UUID=<filter> resume=/dev/disk/by-label/Swap splash=verbose showopts
Desktop: Xfce v: 4.18.1 tk: Gtk v: 3.24.39 wm: xfwm4 v: 4.18.0
with: xfce4-panel tools: xfce4-screensaver dm: GDM v: 45.0.1
Distro: openSUSE Leap 15.6
CPU:
Info: model: Intel Celeron N3060 socket: CHV bits: 64 type: MCP
arch: Airmont level: v2 built: 2015-17 process: Intel 14nm family: 6
model-id: 0x4C (76) stepping: 4 microcode: 0x411
Topology: cpus: 1x dies: 1 clusters: 2 cores: 2 smt: <unsupported> cache:
L1: 112 KiB desc: d-2x24 KiB; i-2x32 KiB L2: 2 MiB desc: 2x1024 KiB
Speed (MHz): avg: 2160 min/max: 480/2480 base/boost: 1600/1660 scaling:
driver: intel_pstate governor: powersave volts: 4.0 V ext-clock: 83 MHz
cores: 1: 2160 2: 2160 bogomips: 6400
Flags: ht lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3
Vulnerabilities: <filter>
Graphics:
Device-1: Intel Atom/Celeron/Pentium Processor x5-E8000/J3xxx/N3xxx
Integrated Graphics vendor: Lenovo driver: i915 v: kernel arch: Gen-8
process: Intel 14nm built: 2014-15 ports: active: eDP-1 empty: DP-1,
DP-2, HDMI-A-1, HDMI-A-2 bus-ID: 00:02.0 chip-ID: 8086:22b1 class-ID: 0300
Device-2: Bison Lenovo EasyCamera driver: uvcvideo type: USB rev: 2.0
speed: 480 Mb/s lanes: 1 mode: 2.0 bus-ID: 1-5:3 chip-ID: 5986:0673
class-ID: 0e02 serial: <filter>
Display: server: X.Org v: 1.21.1.11 with: Xwayland v: 24.1.1
compositor: xfwm4 v: 4.18.0 driver: X: loaded: modesetting
unloaded: fbdev,vesa alternate: intel dri: crocus gpu: i915
display-ID: localhost:10.0 screens: 1
Screen-1: 0 s-res: 1920x1080 s-dpi: 96 s-size: 509x286mm (20.04x11.26")
s-diag: 584mm (22.99")
Monitor-1: eDP-1 mapped: DVI-D-0 model: BOE Display 0x0608 built: 2014
res: mode: 1920x1080 hz: 60 scale: 100% (1) dpi: 92 gamma: 1.2
size: 531x298mm (20.91x11.73") diag: 300mm (11.8") ratio: 16:9
modes: 1366x768
API: OpenGL v: 4.5 vendor: mesa v: 23.3.4 glx-v: 1.4 es-v: 3.2
direct-render: yes renderer: llvmpipe (LLVM 17.0.6 128 bits)
device-ID: ffffffff:ffffffff memory: 3.65 GiB unified: yes
API: Vulkan v: 1.3.275 layers: 1 device: 0 type: integrated-gpu name: Intel
HD Graphics 400 (BSW) driver: mesa intel v: 23.3.4 device-ID: 8086:22b1
surfaces: xcb,xlib
API: EGL Message: EGL data requires eglinfo. Check --recommends.
Info: Tools: api: glxinfo,vulkaninfo de: xfce4-display-settings
x11: xdpyinfo, xprop, xrandr
Legolas:~ #
--
Cheers, Carlos.
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| From | VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> |
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| Date | 2025-07-17 16:22 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <tztonzzh36p8.dlg@v.nguard.lh> |
| In reply to | #69684 |
"Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote: > VanguardLH wrote: > >> I can't see someone watching a laptop while exercising on a stationary >> bike needs to be doing word processing, graphical editing, or anything >> of much strain on the hardware. > > Oh, some videos overload another one of my laptops (too small, Lenovo, > fanless) and my mini-PC MSI Cubi N aka acting server. I did not try on > the Compaq. Usually videos done at 4K and/or h265. Some youtubes > overload firefox on those machines and can't watch at full screen. Try a Chromium variant web browser (e.g. Edge, Brave, Vivaldi). I gave up on Firefox: too slow to run many scripts (so slow that, at time, I think Firefox or the site is dead), unreliable rendering (too many sites I hit couldn't display properly in Firefox), so I finally quit using Firefox after many years of using it. Mozilla forced me to switch. Are you always watching videos in a web browser? Or downloading them to watch locally, like capturing them (e.g., yt-dlp) using VLC to view them? Highly scripted web sites can generate more heat with more CPU cycles than watching the videos locally. Because many sites have dynamic web pages (scripted, and keep changing), the web browser can consume more power while you do nothing but site at a web page, because of all the scripting. Ad/content blockers can help eliminate some of the bandwidth and superfluous scripts.
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| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-07-18 09:13 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <7q8pklx707.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> |
| In reply to | #69690 |
On 2025-07-17 23:22, VanguardLH wrote: > "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote: > >> VanguardLH wrote: >> >>> I can't see someone watching a laptop while exercising on a stationary >>> bike needs to be doing word processing, graphical editing, or anything >>> of much strain on the hardware. >> >> Oh, some videos overload another one of my laptops (too small, Lenovo, >> fanless) and my mini-PC MSI Cubi N aka acting server. I did not try on >> the Compaq. Usually videos done at 4K and/or h265. Some youtubes >> overload firefox on those machines and can't watch at full screen. > > Try a Chromium variant web browser (e.g. Edge, Brave, Vivaldi). I gave > up on Firefox: too slow to run many scripts (so slow that, at time, I > think Firefox or the site is dead), unreliable rendering (too many sites > I hit couldn't display properly in Firefox), so I finally quit using > Firefox after many years of using it. Mozilla forced me to switch. > > Are you always watching videos in a web browser? Or downloading them to > watch locally, like capturing them (e.g., yt-dlp) using VLC to view > them? Highly scripted web sites can generate more heat with more CPU > cycles than watching the videos locally. Because many sites have > dynamic web pages (scripted, and keep changing), the web browser can > consume more power while you do nothing but site at a web page, because > of all the scripting. Ad/content blockers can help eliminate some of > the bandwidth and superfluous scripts. I typically watch youtube on the youtube site with Firefox, with an add blocker. I tried two different channels that gave me some trouble months ago, but today they run at perhaps 60% CPU, so there has been improvement in that front. I don't use Chrome because it doesn't allow to run add blockers recently. They removed the extensions add blockers use. Sometimes, with very recent videos, download in advance means I have to wait significant time for the download to finish, it doesn't download at full speed anymore. -- Cheers, Carlos.
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| From | "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> |
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| Date | 2025-07-18 10:53 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <105d5iq$1crkd$3@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #69705 |
On 2025/7/18 8:13:43, Carlos E.R. wrote: []> Sometimes, with very recent videos, download in advance means I have to > wait significant time for the download to finish, it doesn't download at > full speed anymore. > Sometimes I find that's a prompt to update yt-dlp. -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf freedom of speech is useless if nobody can hear you. -- David Harris -- Author, Pegasus Mail Dunedin, May 2002.
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| From | VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> |
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| Date | 2025-07-18 18:47 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <1bjrbb6kjs41n$.dlg@v.nguard.lh> |
| In reply to | #69705 |
"Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote: > I don't use Chrome because it doesn't allow to run add blockers > recently. They removed the extensions add blockers use. With Edge, a Chromium variant, I use: Adguard Adblocker, Privacy Badger, uBlock Origin Lite (MV3 version), and Ping Blocker. They are very effective, and together give me almost everything that uBlock Origin (MV2 version) did. They overlap on coverage, but catch a bit more than the others. All of them are available at the Google Chrome Store, and all of them are MV3 (Manifest version 3). However, after several months, I decided to remove uBO Lite and Privacy Badger, and just go forward with Adguard AdBlocker and Ping Blocker. Adguard Adblocker https://chromewebstore.google.com/detail/adguard-adblocker/bgnkhhnnamicmpeenaelnjfhikgbkllg Ping Blocker https://chromewebstore.google.com/detail/ping-blocker/jkpocifanmihboebfhigkjcdihgfcdnb Privacy Badger https://chromewebstore.google.com/detail/privacy-badger/pkehgijcmpdhfbdbbnkijodmdjhbjlgp uBlock Origin Lite https://chromewebstore.google.com/detail/ublock-origin-lite/ddkjiahejlhfcafbddmgiahcphecmpfh > Sometimes, with very recent videos, download in advance means I have > to wait significant time for the download to finish, it doesn't > download at full speed anymore. I use yt-dlp to grab videos to keep a local copy. The only places, so far, where it doesn't work are sites that use Javascripted video players with a secret key to decode the protected videos. Their script knows how to decode the video stream. It captures the video stream as fast as the server will deliver it, not at the slow pace of watching a video. https://github.com/yt-dlp/yt-dlp This a a command-line tool. There are GUI frontends for it, but I found yt-dlp.exe was all I needed since it is very simple to enter: yt "<URL>" at the command line. Just copy the URL from the web browser's address bar, and paste into the command line. I use a batch file to specify where to find the yt-dlp.exe, the output folder, and add double quotes around the URL since ampersands (&) are legitimate characters in URLs to separate arguments, but they screw up the command-line parser which thinks they are to separate multiple commands in one command line. yt-dlp isn't using any web browser. Doesn't matter how slow is your web browser at handling video streams. If there is a long pause to yt-dlp, it is because the server isn't delivering the video stream right away perhaps as their means of throttling access. NO TOOL can obtain a video stream faster than the server will deliver it. Not a web browser, not yt-dlp, not any other video stream capture software. yt-dlp will not get around geofencing. For that, you could try using a decent VPN that has multiple exit nodes to see if one of them is with the geolocation allowed by a site. I don't bother with a workaround to geofencing. If a site doesn't want to deliver to me, I can find the same or similar content elsewhere.
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| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-07-19 02:12 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <ah4rklxts7.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> |
| In reply to | #69734 |
On 2025-07-19 01:47, VanguardLH wrote: > "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote: > >> I don't use Chrome because it doesn't allow to run add blockers >> recently. They removed the extensions add blockers use. > > With Edge, a Chromium variant, I use: Adguard Adblocker, Privacy Badger, > uBlock Origin Lite (MV3 version), and Ping Blocker. They are very > effective, and together give me almost everything that uBlock Origin > (MV2 version) did. They overlap on coverage, but catch a bit more than > the others. All of them are available at the Google Chrome Store, and > all of them are MV3 (Manifest version 3). However, after several > months, I decided to remove uBO Lite and Privacy Badger, and just go > forward with Adguard AdBlocker and Ping Blocker. > > Adguard Adblocker > https://chromewebstore.google.com/detail/adguard-adblocker/bgnkhhnnamicmpeenaelnjfhikgbkllg > > Ping Blocker > https://chromewebstore.google.com/detail/ping-blocker/jkpocifanmihboebfhigkjcdihgfcdnb > > Privacy Badger > https://chromewebstore.google.com/detail/privacy-badger/pkehgijcmpdhfbdbbnkijodmdjhbjlgp > > uBlock Origin Lite > https://chromewebstore.google.com/detail/ublock-origin-lite/ddkjiahejlhfcafbddmgiahcphecmpfh > >> Sometimes, with very recent videos, download in advance means I have >> to wait significant time for the download to finish, it doesn't >> download at full speed anymore. > > I use yt-dlp to grab videos to keep a local copy. The only places, so > far, where it doesn't work are sites that use Javascripted video players > with a secret key to decode the protected videos. Their script knows > how to decode the video stream. It captures the video stream as fast as > the server will deliver it, not at the slow pace of watching a video. > > https://github.com/yt-dlp/yt-dlp > > This a a command-line tool. There are GUI frontends for it, but I found > yt-dlp.exe was all I needed since it is very simple to enter: I'm familiar with it :-) ... -- Cheers, Carlos.
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| From | Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-07-18 19:53 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <105eq9p$2c3to$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #69734 |
VanguardLH wrote on 7/18/2025 6:47 PM: > "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote: > >> I don't use Chrome because it doesn't allow to run add blockers >> recently. They removed the extensions add blockers use. > > With Edge, a Chromium variant, I use: Adguard Adblocker, Privacy Badger, > uBlock Origin Lite (MV3 version), and Ping Blocker. They are very > effective, and together give me almost everything that uBlock Origin > (MV2 version) did. They overlap on coverage, but catch a bit more than > the others. All of them are available at the Google Chrome Store, and > all of them are MV3 (Manifest version 3). However, after several > months, I decided to remove uBO Lite and Privacy Badger, and just go > forward with Adguard AdBlocker and Ping Blocker. > > Adguard Adblocker > https://chromewebstore.google.com/detail/adguard-adblocker/bgnkhhnnamicmpeenaelnjfhikgbkllg > > Ping Blocker > https://chromewebstore.google.com/detail/ping-blocker/jkpocifanmihboebfhigkjcdihgfcdnb > > Privacy Badger > https://chromewebstore.google.com/detail/privacy-badger/pkehgijcmpdhfbdbbnkijodmdjhbjlgp > > uBlock Origin Lite > https://chromewebstore.google.com/detail/ublock-origin-lite/ddkjiahejlhfcafbddmgiahcphecmpfh > >> Sometimes, with very recent videos, download in advance means I have >> to wait significant time for the download to finish, it doesn't >> download at full speed anymore. > > I use yt-dlp to grab videos to keep a local copy. The only places, so > far, where it doesn't work are sites that use Javascripted video players > with a secret key to decode the protected videos. Their script knows > how to decode the video stream. It captures the video stream as fast as > the server will deliver it, not at the slow pace of watching a video. > > https://github.com/yt-dlp/yt-dlp > > This a a command-line tool. There are GUI frontends for it, but I found > yt-dlp.exe was all I needed since it is very simple to enter: > > yt "<URL>" > > at the command line. Just copy the URL from the web browser's address > bar, and paste into the command line. I use a batch file to specify > where to find the yt-dlp.exe, the output folder, and add double quotes > around the URL since ampersands (&) are legitimate characters in URLs to > separate arguments, but they screw up the command-line parser which > thinks they are to separate multiple commands in one command line. > > yt-dlp isn't using any web browser. Doesn't matter how slow is your web > browser at handling video streams. If there is a long pause to yt-dlp, > it is because the server isn't delivering the video stream right away > perhaps as their means of throttling access. NO TOOL can obtain a video > stream faster than the server will deliver it. Not a web browser, not > yt-dlp, not any other video stream capture software. > > yt-dlp will not get around geofencing. For that, you could try using a > decent VPN that has multiple exit nodes to see if one of them is with > the geolocation allowed by a site. I don't bother with a workaround to > geofencing. If a site doesn't want to deliver to me, I can find the > same or similar content elsewhere. > I took the easy way out. Got rid of google chrome and started using Firefox (with ublock origin). Seems to work OK and no google hoops to jump through, nor kiss their ass.
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| From | VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> |
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| Date | 2025-07-18 20:45 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <sfe0sv0pjwm8.dlg@v.nguard.lh> |
| In reply to | #69738 |
Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> wrote: > VanguardLH wrote on 7/18/2025 6:47 PM: >> "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote: >> >>> I don't use Chrome because it doesn't allow to run add blockers >>> recently. They removed the extensions add blockers use. >> >> With Edge, a Chromium variant, I use: Adguard Adblocker, Privacy Badger, >> uBlock Origin Lite (MV3 version), and Ping Blocker. They are very >> effective, and together give me almost everything that uBlock Origin >> (MV2 version) did. They overlap on coverage, but catch a bit more than >> the others. All of them are available at the Google Chrome Store, and >> all of them are MV3 (Manifest version 3). However, after several >> months, I decided to remove uBO Lite and Privacy Badger, and just go >> forward with Adguard AdBlocker and Ping Blocker. >> >> Adguard Adblocker >> https://chromewebstore.google.com/detail/adguard-adblocker/bgnkhhnnamicmpeenaelnjfhikgbkllg >> >> Ping Blocker >> https://chromewebstore.google.com/detail/ping-blocker/jkpocifanmihboebfhigkjcdihgfcdnb >> >> Privacy Badger >> https://chromewebstore.google.com/detail/privacy-badger/pkehgijcmpdhfbdbbnkijodmdjhbjlgp >> >> uBlock Origin Lite >> https://chromewebstore.google.com/detail/ublock-origin-lite/ddkjiahejlhfcafbddmgiahcphecmpfh >> >>> Sometimes, with very recent videos, download in advance means I have >>> to wait significant time for the download to finish, it doesn't >>> download at full speed anymore. >> >> I use yt-dlp to grab videos to keep a local copy. The only places, so >> far, where it doesn't work are sites that use Javascripted video players >> with a secret key to decode the protected videos. Their script knows >> how to decode the video stream. It captures the video stream as fast as >> the server will deliver it, not at the slow pace of watching a video. >> >> https://github.com/yt-dlp/yt-dlp >> >> This a a command-line tool. There are GUI frontends for it, but I found >> yt-dlp.exe was all I needed since it is very simple to enter: >> >> yt "<URL>" >> >> at the command line. Just copy the URL from the web browser's address >> bar, and paste into the command line. I use a batch file to specify >> where to find the yt-dlp.exe, the output folder, and add double quotes >> around the URL since ampersands (&) are legitimate characters in URLs to >> separate arguments, but they screw up the command-line parser which >> thinks they are to separate multiple commands in one command line. >> >> yt-dlp isn't using any web browser. Doesn't matter how slow is your web >> browser at handling video streams. If there is a long pause to yt-dlp, >> it is because the server isn't delivering the video stream right away >> perhaps as their means of throttling access. NO TOOL can obtain a video >> stream faster than the server will deliver it. Not a web browser, not >> yt-dlp, not any other video stream capture software. >> >> yt-dlp will not get around geofencing. For that, you could try using a >> decent VPN that has multiple exit nodes to see if one of them is with >> the geolocation allowed by a site. I don't bother with a workaround to >> geofencing. If a site doesn't want to deliver to me, I can find the >> same or similar content elsewhere. >> > > I took the easy way out. Got rid of google chrome and started using > Firefox (with ublock origin). > > Seems to work OK and no google hoops to jump through, nor kiss their ass. I used Firefox as my primary web browser for decades, but more and more I had to use my secondary web browser to compensate for sites that Firefox could not render properly, or was extremely slow to run scripts. A couple years ago, I'd hit about 2 sites per month that didn't work in Firefox. Then it became more and more sites incompatible with Firefox. Eventually my ISP, bank, pharmacy, and other commonly visited web sites that would not work with Firefox. Often the web site or Firefox appeared hung, but was due to extreme long times to run scripts. Those sites rendered and scripted just fine in Chromium variants -- and a Chromium variant does NOT mean you are kissing Google's ass. I used uBlock Origin (MV2) in Firefox for a long time. The only reason why I stalled on dropping Firefox to move to Chromium variants was solely due to wanting uBlock Origin (MV2) to have all the features of the full-blown version of that extension. If not for uBO (MV2), I would've dropped Firefox a year sooner. Eventually I grew weary of switching to a secondary (Chromium) web browser to compensate for Firefox's failings, and made the switch. With uBlock Origin Lite, Ping Adblocker, Adguard Adblocker, and Privacy Badger, all of which are MV3 versions, I had all the features of old uBO (MV2) in Firefox, but none of the increasingly fails of Firefox. After monitoring the effect of disabling some of the extensions regarding what was not blocked, I decided all 4 extensions were overkill, and kept to just 2. It was a hard decision to drop Firefox, because it is so highly user customizable, but it could not keep up with today's state of web sites. That was my decision for myself. Others have different criteria. If you want to keep using Firefox, yes, uBlock Origin (MV2) is still usable there. Mozilla claims they will indefinitely support MV2 and MV3. Alas, indefinitely is not the same as infinitely. Should Mozilla lose Google's revenue, they will have to cut back, and that includes manpower to continue supporting legacy code.
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| From | Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-07-18 21:22 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <105evhh$2gsvr$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #69740 |
VanguardLH wrote on 7/18/2025 8:45 PM: > Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> wrote: > >> VanguardLH wrote on 7/18/2025 6:47 PM: >>> "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote: >>> >>>> I don't use Chrome because it doesn't allow to run add blockers >>>> recently. They removed the extensions add blockers use. >>> >>> With Edge, a Chromium variant, I use: Adguard Adblocker, Privacy Badger, >>> uBlock Origin Lite (MV3 version), and Ping Blocker. They are very >>> effective, and together give me almost everything that uBlock Origin >>> (MV2 version) did. They overlap on coverage, but catch a bit more than >>> the others. All of them are available at the Google Chrome Store, and >>> all of them are MV3 (Manifest version 3). However, after several >>> months, I decided to remove uBO Lite and Privacy Badger, and just go >>> forward with Adguard AdBlocker and Ping Blocker. >>> >>> Adguard Adblocker >>> https://chromewebstore.google.com/detail/adguard-adblocker/bgnkhhnnamicmpeenaelnjfhikgbkllg >>> >>> Ping Blocker >>> https://chromewebstore.google.com/detail/ping-blocker/jkpocifanmihboebfhigkjcdihgfcdnb >>> >>> Privacy Badger >>> https://chromewebstore.google.com/detail/privacy-badger/pkehgijcmpdhfbdbbnkijodmdjhbjlgp >>> >>> uBlock Origin Lite >>> https://chromewebstore.google.com/detail/ublock-origin-lite/ddkjiahejlhfcafbddmgiahcphecmpfh >>> >>>> Sometimes, with very recent videos, download in advance means I have >>>> to wait significant time for the download to finish, it doesn't >>>> download at full speed anymore. >>> >>> I use yt-dlp to grab videos to keep a local copy. The only places, so >>> far, where it doesn't work are sites that use Javascripted video players >>> with a secret key to decode the protected videos. Their script knows >>> how to decode the video stream. It captures the video stream as fast as >>> the server will deliver it, not at the slow pace of watching a video. >>> >>> https://github.com/yt-dlp/yt-dlp >>> >>> This a a command-line tool. There are GUI frontends for it, but I found >>> yt-dlp.exe was all I needed since it is very simple to enter: >>> >>> yt "<URL>" >>> >>> at the command line. Just copy the URL from the web browser's address >>> bar, and paste into the command line. I use a batch file to specify >>> where to find the yt-dlp.exe, the output folder, and add double quotes >>> around the URL since ampersands (&) are legitimate characters in URLs to >>> separate arguments, but they screw up the command-line parser which >>> thinks they are to separate multiple commands in one command line. >>> >>> yt-dlp isn't using any web browser. Doesn't matter how slow is your web >>> browser at handling video streams. If there is a long pause to yt-dlp, >>> it is because the server isn't delivering the video stream right away >>> perhaps as their means of throttling access. NO TOOL can obtain a video >>> stream faster than the server will deliver it. Not a web browser, not >>> yt-dlp, not any other video stream capture software. >>> >>> yt-dlp will not get around geofencing. For that, you could try using a >>> decent VPN that has multiple exit nodes to see if one of them is with >>> the geolocation allowed by a site. I don't bother with a workaround to >>> geofencing. If a site doesn't want to deliver to me, I can find the >>> same or similar content elsewhere. >>> >> >> I took the easy way out. Got rid of google chrome and started using >> Firefox (with ublock origin). >> >> Seems to work OK and no google hoops to jump through, nor kiss their ass. > > I used Firefox as my primary web browser for decades, but more and more > I had to use my secondary web browser to compensate for sites that > Firefox could not render properly, or was extremely slow to run scripts. > A couple years ago, I'd hit about 2 sites per month that didn't work in > Firefox. Then it became more and more sites incompatible with Firefox. > Eventually my ISP, bank, pharmacy, and other commonly visited web sites > that would not work with Firefox. Often the web site or Firefox > appeared hung, but was due to extreme long times to run scripts. Those > sites rendered and scripted just fine in Chromium variants -- and a > Chromium variant does NOT mean you are kissing Google's ass. > > I used uBlock Origin (MV2) in Firefox for a long time. The only reason > why I stalled on dropping Firefox to move to Chromium variants was > solely due to wanting uBlock Origin (MV2) to have all the features of > the full-blown version of that extension. If not for uBO (MV2), I > would've dropped Firefox a year sooner. Eventually I grew weary of > switching to a secondary (Chromium) web browser to compensate for > Firefox's failings, and made the switch. With uBlock Origin Lite, Ping > Adblocker, Adguard Adblocker, and Privacy Badger, all of which are MV3 > versions, I had all the features of old uBO (MV2) in Firefox, but none > of the increasingly fails of Firefox. After monitoring the effect of > disabling some of the extensions regarding what was not blocked, I > decided all 4 extensions were overkill, and kept to just 2. > > It was a hard decision to drop Firefox, because it is so highly user > customizable, but it could not keep up with today's state of web sites. > That was my decision for myself. Others have different criteria. > > If you want to keep using Firefox, yes, uBlock Origin (MV2) is still > usable there. Mozilla claims they will indefinitely support MV2 and > MV3. Alas, indefinitely is not the same as infinitely. Should Mozilla > lose Google's revenue, they will have to cut back, and that includes > manpower to continue supporting legacy code. > I've not noticed those problems with firefox, but it may be due to my not having a super fast computer, so maybe I just didn't notice all the faults. Anyway, it's good that google is working so well for you, so stick with it as long as it meets your needs.
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| From | Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-07-18 19:58 +0000 |
| Subject | mini-PC (was: Trouble with laptop display) |
| Message-ID | <105eg17.of0.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #69684 |
Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote: [...] > Oh, some videos overload another one of my laptops (too small, Lenovo, > fanless) and my mini-PC MSI Cubi N aka acting server. I did not try on > the Compaq. Usually videos done at 4K and/or h265. Some youtubes > overload firefox on those machines and can't watch at full screen. Can you give me a pointer to some specs of your 'mini-PC MSI Cubi N', especially the CPU (brand, series, model, speed, cores)? I'm looking for a replacement for my wife's sort-of 'desktop' (Windows 10 laptop in a drawer with external dispay, keyboard and mouse) and I wonder what CPU I need. *My* current (Windows 11) laptop has an AMD Ryzen 5 5000 Series (System Information says: "AMD Ryzen 5 5625U with Radeon Graphics, 2300 MHz, 6 Core(s)") which is fast enough, but I wonder what comparable 'mini-PC' CPU I would need. Some of the mini-PCs I see have normal CPU names, like "Intel Core 5", but others have meaningless (for me) names like 'N<some_number>'.
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