Re: Trouble with laptop display

From	Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid>
Newsgroups	comp.os.linux.misc, alt.os.linux, alt.comp.os.windows-10
Subject	Re: Trouble with laptop display
Date	2025-07-18 21:22 -0500
Organization	A noiseless patient Spider
Message-ID	<105evhh$2gsvr$1@dont-email.me> (permalink)
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VanguardLH wrote on 7/18/2025 8:45 PM:
> Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> 
>> VanguardLH wrote on 7/18/2025 6:47 PM:
>>> "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I don't use Chrome because it doesn't allow to run add blockers
>>>> recently. They removed the extensions add blockers use.
>>>
>>> With Edge, a Chromium variant, I use: Adguard Adblocker, Privacy Badger,
>>> uBlock Origin Lite (MV3 version), and Ping Blocker.  They are very
>>> effective, and together give me almost everything that uBlock Origin
>>> (MV2 version) did.  They overlap on coverage, but catch a bit more than
>>> the others.  All of them are available at the Google Chrome Store, and
>>> all of them are MV3 (Manifest version 3).  However, after several
>>> months, I decided to remove uBO Lite and Privacy Badger, and just go
>>> forward with Adguard AdBlocker and Ping Blocker.
>>>
>>> Adguard Adblocker
>>> https://chromewebstore.google.com/detail/adguard-adblocker/bgnkhhnnamicmpeenaelnjfhikgbkllg
>>>
>>> Ping Blocker
>>> https://chromewebstore.google.com/detail/ping-blocker/jkpocifanmihboebfhigkjcdihgfcdnb
>>>
>>> Privacy Badger
>>> https://chromewebstore.google.com/detail/privacy-badger/pkehgijcmpdhfbdbbnkijodmdjhbjlgp
>>>
>>> uBlock Origin Lite
>>> https://chromewebstore.google.com/detail/ublock-origin-lite/ddkjiahejlhfcafbddmgiahcphecmpfh
>>>
>>>> Sometimes, with very recent videos, download in advance means I have
>>>> to wait significant time for the download to finish, it doesn't
>>>> download at full speed anymore.
>>>
>>> I use yt-dlp to grab videos to keep a local copy.  The only places, so
>>> far, where it doesn't work are sites that use Javascripted video players
>>> with a secret key to decode the protected videos.  Their script knows
>>> how to decode the video stream.  It captures the video stream as fast as
>>> the server will deliver it, not at the slow pace of watching a video.
>>>
>>> https://github.com/yt-dlp/yt-dlp
>>>
>>> This a a command-line tool.  There are GUI frontends for it, but I found
>>> yt-dlp.exe was all I needed since it is very simple to enter:
>>>
>>> yt "<URL>"
>>>
>>> at the command line.  Just copy the URL from the web browser's address
>>> bar, and paste into the command line.  I use a batch file to specify
>>> where to find the yt-dlp.exe, the output folder, and add double quotes
>>> around the URL since ampersands (&) are legitimate characters in URLs to
>>> separate arguments, but they screw up the command-line parser which
>>> thinks they are to separate multiple commands in one command line.
>>>
>>> yt-dlp isn't using any web browser.  Doesn't matter how slow is your web
>>> browser at handling video streams.  If there is a long pause to yt-dlp,
>>> it is because the server isn't delivering the video stream right away
>>> perhaps as their means of throttling access.  NO TOOL can obtain a video
>>> stream faster than the server will deliver it.  Not a web browser, not
>>> yt-dlp, not any other video stream capture software.
>>>
>>> yt-dlp will not get around geofencing.  For that, you could try using a
>>> decent VPN that has multiple exit nodes to see if one of them is with
>>> the geolocation allowed by a site.  I don't bother with a workaround to
>>> geofencing.  If a site doesn't want to deliver to me, I can find the
>>> same or similar content elsewhere.
>>>
>>
>> I took the easy way out.  Got rid of google chrome and started using
>> Firefox (with ublock origin).
>>
>> Seems to work OK and no google hoops to jump through, nor kiss their ass.
> 
> I used Firefox as my primary web browser for decades, but more and more
> I had to use my secondary web browser to compensate for sites that
> Firefox could not render properly, or was extremely slow to run scripts.
> A couple years ago, I'd hit about 2 sites per month that didn't work in
> Firefox.  Then it became more and more sites incompatible with Firefox.
> Eventually my ISP, bank, pharmacy, and other commonly visited web sites
> that would not work with Firefox.  Often the web site or Firefox
> appeared hung, but was due to extreme long times to run scripts.  Those
> sites rendered and scripted just fine in Chromium variants -- and a
> Chromium variant does NOT mean you are kissing Google's ass.
> 
> I used uBlock Origin (MV2) in Firefox for a long time.  The only reason
> why I stalled on dropping Firefox to move to Chromium variants was
> solely due to wanting uBlock Origin (MV2) to have all the features of
> the full-blown version of that extension.  If not for uBO (MV2), I
> would've dropped Firefox a year sooner.  Eventually I grew weary of
> switching to a secondary (Chromium) web browser to compensate for
> Firefox's failings, and made the switch.  With uBlock Origin Lite, Ping
> Adblocker, Adguard Adblocker, and Privacy Badger, all of which are MV3
> versions, I had all the features of old uBO (MV2) in Firefox, but none
> of the increasingly fails of Firefox.  After monitoring the effect of
> disabling some of the extensions regarding what was not blocked, I
> decided all 4 extensions were overkill, and kept to just 2.
> 
> It was a hard decision to drop Firefox, because it is so highly user
> customizable, but it could not keep up with today's state of web sites.
> That was my decision for myself.  Others have different criteria.
> 
> If you want to keep using Firefox, yes, uBlock Origin (MV2) is still
> usable there.  Mozilla claims they will indefinitely support MV2 and
> MV3.  Alas, indefinitely is not the same as infinitely.  Should Mozilla
> lose Google's revenue, they will have to cut back, and that includes
> manpower to continue supporting legacy code.
> 

I've not noticed those problems with firefox, but it may be due to my 
not having a super fast computer, so maybe I just didn't notice all the 
faults.

Anyway, it's good that google is working so well for you, so stick with 
it as long as it meets your needs.

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  Re: Trouble with laptop display Marco Moock <mm@dorfdsl.de> - 2025-07-16 14:00 +0200
    Re: Trouble with laptop display Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2025-07-16 13:22 +0100
    Re: Trouble with laptop display "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-16 20:43 +0200
      Re: Trouble with laptop display Marco Moock <mm@dorfdsl.de> - 2025-07-17 08:06 +0200
        Re: Trouble with laptop display "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-17 12:16 +0200
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  Re: Trouble with laptop display Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-07-16 10:29 -0400
    Re: Trouble with laptop display "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-16 20:42 +0200
  Re: Trouble with laptop display The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-16 16:49 +0100
  Re: Trouble with laptop display VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-07-16 11:52 -0500
    Re: Trouble with laptop display "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-16 20:41 +0200
      Re: Trouble with laptop display Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2025-07-16 21:11 +0100
        Re: Trouble with laptop display Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-07-16 17:21 -0400
      Re: Trouble with laptop display "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-07-16 20:12 +0100
        Re: Trouble with laptop display Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-07-16 17:15 -0400
        Re: Trouble with laptop display not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2025-07-17 09:10 +1000
      Re: Trouble with laptop display Jack <Jack@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-16 19:09 +0000
        Re: Trouble with laptop display "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-16 22:30 +0200
          Re: Trouble with laptop display Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-07-16 16:58 -0700
            Re: Trouble with laptop display Robert Heller <heller@deepsoft.com> - 2025-07-17 01:58 +0000
              Re: Trouble with laptop display Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-07-17 03:29 +0000
                Re: Trouble with laptop display "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-17 12:21 +0200
      Re: Trouble with laptop display VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-07-16 18:12 -0500
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      Re: Trouble with laptop display c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-07-17 03:37 -0400
        Re: Trouble with laptop display "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-07-17 10:16 +0100
          Re: Trouble with laptop display "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-17 13:00 +0200
            Re: Trouble with laptop display The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-17 13:50 +0100
              Re: Trouble with laptop display "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-07-17 17:04 +0100
                Re: Trouble with laptop display VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-07-17 13:11 -0500
                Re: Trouble with laptop display "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-17 20:25 +0200
                Re: Trouble with laptop display The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-17 19:58 +0100
                Re: Trouble with laptop display "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-18 08:51 +0200
                Re: Trouble with laptop display Simon <SimonJ@eu.invalid> - 2025-07-18 06:04 +0000
                Re: Trouble with laptop display The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-18 11:12 +0100
                Re: Trouble with laptop display "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-18 12:48 +0200
                Re: Trouble with laptop display The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-18 13:31 +0100
                Re: Trouble with laptop display The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-17 19:57 +0100
                Re: Trouble with laptop display The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-17 19:50 +0100
            Re: Trouble with laptop display VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-07-17 13:04 -0500
              Re: Trouble with laptop display "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-17 20:29 +0200
                Re: Trouble with laptop display The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-17 19:56 +0100
                Re: Trouble with laptop display "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-18 09:01 +0200
                Re: Trouble with laptop display The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-18 11:14 +0100
                Re: Trouble with laptop display "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-18 12:26 +0200
                Re: Trouble with laptop display The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-18 13:29 +0100
                Re: Trouble with laptop display "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-18 21:18 +0200
                Re: Trouble with laptop display VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-07-17 16:22 -0500
                Re: Trouble with laptop display "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-18 09:13 +0200
                Re: Trouble with laptop display "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-07-18 10:53 +0100
                Re: Trouble with laptop display VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-07-18 18:47 -0500
                Re: Trouble with laptop display "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-19 02:12 +0200
                Re: Trouble with laptop display Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> - 2025-07-18 19:53 -0500
                Re: Trouble with laptop display VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-07-18 20:45 -0500
                Re: Trouble with laptop display Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> - 2025-07-18 21:22 -0500
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            Re: Trouble with laptop display Robert <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-17 21:56 +0000
              Re: Trouble with laptop display "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-18 09:49 +0200
                Re: Trouble with laptop display "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-18 11:08 +0200
                Re: Trouble with laptop display The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-18 11:11 +0100
                Re: Trouble with laptop display "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-18 12:22 +0200
                Re: Trouble with laptop display Jack <Jack@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-18 20:24 +0000
                Re: Trouble with laptop display The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-18 22:05 +0100
                Re: Trouble with laptop display Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-07-18 18:31 -0400
                Re: Trouble with laptop display The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-19 00:50 +0100
                Re: Trouble with laptop display "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-07-19 01:35 +0100
                Re: Trouble with laptop display Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-07-18 19:42 -0700
                Re: Trouble with laptop display "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-19 15:11 +0200
                Re: Trouble with laptop display Simon <SimonJ@eu.invalid> - 2025-07-19 13:36 +0000
                Re: Trouble with laptop display not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2025-07-20 09:55 +1000
                Re: Trouble with laptop display rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-07-20 02:02 +0000
                Re: Trouble with laptop display Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-07-20 21:10 +1000
                Re: Trouble with laptop display Simon <SimonJ@eu.invalid> - 2025-07-20 05:00 +0000
                Re: Trouble with laptop display Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-07-19 21:43 -0700
                Re: Trouble with laptop display rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-07-20 05:29 +0000
                Re: Trouble with laptop display Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-07-20 07:34 -0400
                Re: Trouble with laptop display "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-20 21:04 +0200
                Re: Trouble with laptop display Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-07-20 14:40 -0700
                Re: Trouble with laptop display Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-07-20 20:43 -0400
                Re: Trouble with laptop display rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-07-21 04:42 +0000
                Re: Trouble with laptop display rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-07-20 19:50 +0000
                Re: Trouble with laptop display Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-07-21 19:41 +1000
                Re: Trouble with laptop display "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-21 12:16 +0200
                Re: Trouble with laptop display Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-07-21 22:26 +1000
                Re: Trouble with laptop display Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-07-21 17:35 +0000
                Re: Trouble with laptop display "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-21 19:55 +0200
                Re: Trouble with laptop display Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-07-21 17:37 -0400
                Re: Trouble with laptop display "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-22 00:36 +0200
                Re: Trouble with laptop display Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-07-22 19:57 +1000
                Re: Trouble with laptop display "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-22 12:08 +0200
                Re: Trouble with laptop display Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-07-22 21:38 +1000
                Re: Trouble with laptop display The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-22 12:46 +0100
                Re: Trouble with laptop display The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-20 12:54 +0100
                Re: Trouble with laptop display "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-20 20:55 +0200
                Re: Trouble with laptop display The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-20 20:22 +0100
                Re: Trouble with laptop display rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-07-20 19:54 +0000
                Re: Trouble with laptop display Simon <SimonJ@eu.invalid> - 2025-07-21 09:02 +0000
                Re: Trouble with laptop display Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-07-19 21:44 -0700
                Re: Trouble with laptop display Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2025-07-20 13:41 +0100
                Re: Trouble with laptop display "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-07-20 17:52 +0100
                Re: Trouble with laptop display "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-20 21:05 +0200
                Re: Trouble with laptop display rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-07-20 19:56 +0000
                Re: Trouble with laptop display Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2025-07-21 12:55 +0100
                Re: Trouble with laptop display Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-07-20 15:00 -0700
                Re: Trouble with laptop display Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2025-07-22 02:43 +0000
                Re: Trouble with laptop display "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-18 23:25 +0200
                Re: Trouble with laptop display "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-19 00:07 +0200
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                Re: Trouble with laptop display - drm ebook fallout Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-08-06 18:04 +0000
                Re: Trouble with laptop display - drm ebook fallout "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-06 20:33 +0200
                Re: Trouble with laptop display - drm ebook fallout "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-08-06 23:39 +0100
                Re: Trouble with laptop display - drm ebook fallout Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-08-07 00:36 +0000
                Re: Trouble with laptop display - drm ebook fallout rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-07 01:53 +0000
                Re: Trouble with laptop display - drm ebook fallout "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-07 13:53 +0200
                Re: Trouble with laptop display - drm ebook fallout Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-08-07 20:01 +1000
                Re: Trouble with laptop display - drm ebook fallout "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-08-07 13:05 +0100
                Re: Trouble with laptop display The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-18 11:08 +0100
                Re: Trouble with laptop display "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-18 21:22 +0200
  Re: Trouble with laptop display Jasen Betts <usenet@revmaps.no-ip.org> - 2025-10-22 11:04 +0000
    Re: Trouble with laptop display "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-22 13:44 +0200
    Re: Trouble with laptop display The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-22 12:52 +0100

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