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  Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 L Thorpe <lt666@sixsixsix.net> - 2026-08-15 20:45 +0000
    Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-08-15 17:10 -0400
      Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 L Thorpe <lt666@sixsixsix.net> - 2026-08-15 21:15 +0000
        Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-08-15 17:21 -0400
          Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 Leroy H <lh@somewhere.net> - 2026-08-15 22:56 +0000
    Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-16 02:26 -0400
      Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-08-16 03:01 -0400
        Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-08-17 09:48 -0700
          Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-08-17 12:54 -0400
          Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-17 17:49 +0000
            Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-08-17 14:34 -0400
              Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-17 23:48 +0000
            Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-08-17 12:14 -0700
              Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-17 22:55 +0000
          Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 Leroy H <lh@somewhere.net> - 2026-08-17 19:33 +0000
            Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-08-17 15:39 -0400
            Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 Leroy H <lh@somewhere.net> - 2026-08-17 20:13 +0000
      Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-16 10:58 +0200
      Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 Leroy H <lh@somewhere.net> - 2026-08-16 14:30 +0000
        Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-16 17:44 +0100
          Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 L Thorpe <lt666@sixsixsix.net> - 2026-08-16 17:01 +0000
            Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-17 00:52 -0400
              Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-08-17 16:58 +0000
                Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-08-17 13:45 -0400
                  Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-08-17 18:59 +0000
                    Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-08-17 15:16 -0400
                      OT (was: Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11) "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-08-17 21:20 +0100
                        Re: OT "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-08-17 16:42 -0400
                          Re: OT "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-08-17 22:21 +0100
                            Re: OT "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-08-17 18:23 -0400
                          Re: OT John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-08-17 14:34 -0700
                            Re: OT "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-08-17 18:24 -0400
                              Re: OT John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-08-17 15:40 -0700
                                Re: OT "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-08-17 18:44 -0400
                                  Re: OT John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-08-18 07:51 -0700
                                    Re: OT "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-08-18 11:20 -0400
                                      Re: OT John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-08-18 10:24 -0700
                                        Re: OT The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-19 13:58 +0100
                              Re: OT Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-08-18 00:47 +0000
                                Re: OT "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-08-17 20:51 -0400
                                  Re: OT rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-18 03:01 +0000
                                    Re: OT Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-08-18 04:55 +0000
                                Re: OT rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-18 02:55 +0000
                        Re: OT Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-08-19 18:30 +0000
                          Re: OT "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-08-19 22:19 +0100
                            Re: OT Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-08-20 15:41 +0000
                              Re: OT "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-08-20 17:05 +0100
                                Re: OT Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-08-20 17:57 +0000
                          Re: OT The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-20 01:16 +0100
                            Re: OT "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-20 12:31 +0200
                              Re: OT The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-20 11:59 +0100
                                Re: OT "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-20 15:23 +0200
                              Re: OT "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-08-20 17:15 +0100
                      Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-17 22:51 +0000
                  Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2026-08-18 08:39 +0100
                    Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-08-18 03:52 -0400
                  Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-08-18 21:15 +1000
                    Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-08-18 07:25 -0400
                      Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-08-18 21:44 +1000
                        Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-08-18 07:52 -0400
                        Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-18 13:18 +0100
                          Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-08-18 08:36 -0400
                    Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-18 13:16 +0100
                Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-17 18:07 +0000
                Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-17 23:40 +0000
                  Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-08-17 19:45 -0400
                  Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-08-18 00:47 +0000
                    Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-18 02:51 +0000
                      Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-08-18 03:10 +0000
                      Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-18 00:48 -0400
                        Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-18 10:26 +0100
                      Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-08-18 04:55 +0000
                      Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-08-18 08:55 -0400
                        Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-18 17:24 +0100
                          Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-08-18 16:37 +0000
                            Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-08-18 20:51 -0400
                              Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-19 15:04 +0100
                                Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-19 20:53 +0000
                                Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-08-19 22:11 -0400
                                  Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-20 11:58 +0100
                            Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-19 04:32 +0000
                              Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-08-19 05:34 +0000
                            Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-19 14:52 +0100
                              Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-19 21:08 +0000
                                Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-08-19 22:54 +0000
                                  Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-20 04:11 +0000
                    Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-18 10:25 +0100
                      Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-18 15:34 +0000
                        Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-18 17:30 +0100
                      Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-08-18 16:30 +0000
                        Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-18 22:52 +0000
                          Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2026-08-19 05:54 +0200
                        Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-19 14:47 +0100
                          Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-19 21:26 +0000
                            Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-20 01:42 +0100
                              Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 Leroy H <lh@somewhere.net> - 2026-08-20 01:42 +0000
                  Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-18 03:34 +0000
              Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2026-08-17 19:08 +0000
          Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-16 23:42 -0400
    Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 vallor <vallor@vallor.earth> - 2026-08-16 11:55 +0000

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#90099

On Tue, 18 Aug 2026 16:37:12 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote:

> In actual fact, the ends of this line curve around and meet, meaning
> that Hitler and Stalin really aren't that far apart.
> As somone once said in one of these discussions, the extremists all meet
> somewhere around on the dark side.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horseshoe_theory

I think it was Goebbels that remarked that a KPD radical that had a change 
of heart made a really good SA soldier. You do have to be careful as the 
Strassers found out.

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#90102

On 2026-08-19, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:

> On Tue, 18 Aug 2026 16:37:12 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
>
>> In actual fact, the ends of this line curve around and meet, meaning
>> that Hitler and Stalin really aren't that far apart.
>> As somone once said in one of these discussions, the extremists all meet
>> somewhere around on the dark side.
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horseshoe_theory

Bingo!  That looks a lot like my theory.

I think the Taliban are somewhere off the ends.

-- 
/~\  Charlie Gibbs                  |  In this world there are
\ /  <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid>      |  two kinds of people:
 X   I'm really at ac.dekanfrus     |  1. Those who can extrapolate
/ \  if you read it the right way.  |  from incomplete data.

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#90135

On 18/08/2026 17:37, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
> n actual fact, the ends of this line curve around and meet,
> meaning that Hitler and Stalin really aren't that far apart.
> As somone once said in one of these discussions, the extremists
> all meet somewhere around on the dark side.

Both communism and corpocracy have one thing in common. No decisions or 
wealth should be left in the hands of the little people.

We are slaves, either to the State or the Company.

And as they call it in Communist [ANC] run South Africa, 'State Capture' 
ensures that they are essentially the same thing.


-- 
"When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, 
that the dunces are all in confederacy against him."

Jonathan Swift.

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#90163

On Wed, 19 Aug 2026 14:52:20 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

> On 18/08/2026 17:37, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
>> n actual fact, the ends of this line curve around and meet, meaning
>> that Hitler and Stalin really aren't that far apart. As somone once
>> said in one of these discussions, the extremists all meet somewhere
>> around on the dark side.
> 
> Both communism and corpocracy have one thing in common. No decisions or
> wealth should be left in the hands of the little people.

Big Business and State Socialism are very much alike, especially Big 
Business.”

“Too much capitalism does not mean too many capitalists, but too few 
capitalists.”

G.K. Chesterton

https://www.chesterton.org/quotations/economic-theory-and-distributism/

Chesterton and Belloc's distributism followed from Catholic social 
doctrine which followed from Leo XIII's Rerum Novarum.

https://www.vatican.va/content/leo-xiii/en/encyclicals/documents/hf_l-
xiii_enc_15051891_rerum-novarum.html

The current Leo certainly isn't equivalent to his namesake. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Distributism

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#90171

On 2026-08-19, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:

> “Too much capitalism does not mean too many capitalists, but too few 
> capitalists.”
>
> G.K. Chesterton

*applause*

-- 
/~\  Charlie Gibbs                  |  In this world there are
\ /  <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid>      |  two kinds of people:
 X   I'm really at ac.dekanfrus     |  1. Those who can extrapolate
/ \  if you read it the right way.  |  from incomplete data.

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#90195

On Wed, 19 Aug 2026 22:54:06 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote:

> On 2026-08-19, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
> 
>> “Too much capitalism does not mean too many capitalists, but too few
>> capitalists.”
>>
>> G.K. Chesterton
> 
> *applause*

He did have a way with words. It gets a bit strange toward the end but I 
think of 'The Man Who Was Thursday' every time the FBI makes one of their 
orchestrated busts. Six out of seven of the members of the underground 
anarchist cell were actually undercover detectives of various agencies. 

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#90048

On 18/08/2026 01:47, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
>   "Corporatocracy" seems to be preferable.
Corpocracy. Be British. Don't multiply syllables beyond necessity. 
(William of Occam, A Brit, adapted)..
-- 
"Socialist governments traditionally do make a financial mess. They 
always run out of other people's money. It's quite a characteristic of them"

Margaret Thatcher

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#90067

On Tue, 18 Aug 2026 10:25:14 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

> On 18/08/2026 01:47, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
>>   "Corporatocracy" seems to be preferable.
> Corpocracy. Be British. Don't multiply syllables beyond necessity.
> (William of Occam, A Brit, adapted)..

That might be confused with coprophagia -- or perhaps they are the same 
thing. I've always had a soft spot for Old Bill, not wanting to dwell in 
Plato's Cloud Cuckoo Land.

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#90074

On 18/08/2026 16:34, rbowman wrote:
> On Tue, 18 Aug 2026 10:25:14 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> 
>> On 18/08/2026 01:47, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
>>> "Corporatocracy" seems to be preferable.
>> Corpocracy. Be British. Don't multiply syllables beyond necessity. 
>> (William of Occam, A Brit, adapted)..
> 
> That might be confused with coprophagia -- or perhaps they are the
> same thing.

I dear, they may well converge as the old doctrine about 'mushroom'
management says "Keep them in the dark and feed them on bullshit"

 > I've always had a soft spot for Old Bill, not wanting to dwell in
> Plato's Cloud Cuckoo Land.

Ah. That got me for a second. In the UK The Old Bill are in fact the 
fuzz, pigs, cops, etc.

Willy Occam understood what everyone else forgot till Hume. A Hypothesis 
is only disprovable.

In which case why be so damned complicated. It was all lies anyway.. No 
one knew the truth and only the Church claimed to...



-- 
Climate is what you expect but weather is what you get.
Mark Twain

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#90071

On 2026-08-18, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:

> On 18/08/2026 01:47, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
>
>>   "Corporatocracy" seems to be preferable.
>
> Corpocracy. Be British. Don't multiply syllables beyond necessity. 
> (William of Occam, A Brit, adapted)..

"Orientate" is an example of the trend toward polysyllabificationizing.

(My other pet peeve: saying "preventative" instead of "preventive".)

-- 
/~\  Charlie Gibbs                  |  In this world there are
\ /  <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid>      |  two kinds of people:
 X   I'm really at ac.dekanfrus     |  1. Those who can extrapolate
/ \  if you read it the right way.  |  from incomplete data.

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#90080

On Tue, 18 Aug 2026 16:30:02 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote:

> On 2026-08-18, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>
>> On 18/08/2026 01:47, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
>>
>>>   "Corporatocracy" seems to be preferable.
>>
>> Corpocracy. Be British. Don't multiply syllables beyond necessity.
>> (William of Occam, A Brit, adapted)..
>
> "Orientate" is an example of the trend toward
> polysyllabificationizing.
>
> (My other pet peeve: saying "preventative" instead of "preventive".)

“Adaptation” or “adaption”?

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#90094

On Tue, 18 Aug 2026 22:52:09 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence DÿOliveiro
<ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

>On Tue, 18 Aug 2026 16:30:02 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
>
>> On 2026-08-18, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>> On 18/08/2026 01:47, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
>>>
>>>>   "Corporatocracy" seems to be preferable.
>>>
>>> Corpocracy. Be British. Don't multiply syllables beyond necessity.
>>> (William of Occam, A Brit, adapted)..
>>
>> "Orientate" is an example of the trend toward
>> polysyllabificationizing.
>>
>> (My other pet peeve: saying "preventative" instead of "preventive".)
>
>“Adaptation” or “adaption”?

Administer --> administrate

Comment --> commentate


-- 
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Blog: http://methodius.blogspot.com
E-mail - see web page, or parse: shayes at dunelm full stop org full stop uk

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#90134

On 18/08/2026 17:30, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
> On 2026-08-18, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> 
>> On 18/08/2026 01:47, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
>>
>>>    "Corporatocracy" seems to be preferable.
>>
>> Corpocracy. Be British. Don't multiply syllables beyond necessity.
>> (William of Occam, A Brit, adapted)..
> 
> "Orientate" is an example of the trend toward polysyllabificationizing.
> 
Yes.
I love the US 'burglarise'
Both countries needed to make a verb out of the activities of burglars. 
The UK chose 'to burgle'.


> (My other pet peeve: saying "preventative" instead of "preventive".)
> 
Use prophylactics instead
-- 
"When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, 
that the dunces are all in confederacy against him."

Jonathan Swift.

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#90166

On Wed, 19 Aug 2026 14:47:42 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

> I love the US 'burglarise'
> Both countries needed to make a verb out of the activities of burglars.
> The UK chose 'to burgle'.

Many jurisdictions in the US specify burglary as entering an unoccupied 
building and home invasion for an occupied building.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Home_invasion

This state has the castle doctrine with a no retreat clause:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Castle_doctrine

It isn't an automatic license to kill. A local was convicted of murder 
since he baited a kid breaking into garages by leaving the door open. It 
didn't help that he fired a 12 gauge into the dark garage 4 times without 
identifying a target. 4th rule of firearm safety:

Always Be Sure of Your Target and What’s Beyond It

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#90179

On 19/08/2026 22:26, rbowman wrote:
> On Wed, 19 Aug 2026 14:47:42 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> 
>> I love the US 'burglarise'
>> Both countries needed to make a verb out of the activities of burglars.
>> The UK chose 'to burgle'.
> 
> Many jurisdictions in the US specify burglary as entering an unoccupied
> building and home invasion for an occupied building.
> 
UK law, has breaking and entering, burglary and robbery with violence.
Or did. They reformed it a bit

"The old common law term "breaking and entering" is now encompassed 
within the statutory offence of burglary. A person commits burglary if 
they enter any building (or part of a building) as a trespasser"

"If a person commits a standard burglary and has with them at the time 
any firearm, imitation firearm, explosive, or weapon of offence, it 
becomes aggravated burglary"

"Robbery is fundamentally different from burglary because it focuses on 
a direct confrontation and theft from a person. A person is guilty of 
robbery if they steal and immediately before or at the time of doing so, 
and in order to do so, they use force on any person or put/seek to put 
any person in fear of being subjected to force"

> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Home_invasion
> 
> This state has the castle doctrine with a no retreat clause:
> 
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Castle_doctrine
> 
> It isn't an automatic license to kill. A local was convicted of murder
> since he baited a kid breaking into garages by leaving the door open. It
> didn't help that he fired a 12 gauge into the dark garage 4 times without
> identifying a target. 4th rule of firearm safety:
> 

> Always Be Sure of Your Target and What’s Beyond It
> 

-- 
There is something fascinating about science. One gets such wholesale 
returns of conjecture out of such a trifling investment of fact.

Mark Twain

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#90182

On Thu, 20 Aug 2026 01:42:23 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

> 
> UK law, has breaking and entering, burglary and robbery with violence.
> Or did. They reformed it a bit
> 

In the ever Victorian UK, breaking and entering is always called
"buggery," and was always a tradition in the Royal Navy:

<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMxALY5IaAs>

Haaaaaaaaaa, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!

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#90021

On Mon, 17 Aug 2026 23:40:31 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:

> The term for private corporations having more power over ordinary
> citizens’ lives than the Government, is not “Communism”, but “Fascism”.
> Or possibly “Corporatism”.

Corporatism isn't what you think it is. Try corporatocracy.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporatism
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporatocracy

Fascism adopted some corporatist ideas via Gabriele D'Annunzio, although 
D'Annunzio didn't have much use for Mussolini. 

'Fascism' with the lower case 'f' means whatever the purple haired, 
pierced harpy thinks it means.

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#89981

On 2026-08-17, c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote:
>
>    At some point soon I'm gonna need to buy a
>    half-ass big-screen "phone". HATE 'em. Keep
>    a little FLIP as my mobile now. My carrier is
>    not gonna support my great old landline much
>    longer - they've already raised the PRICE
>    insanely, hoping I'll quit. Clue, I'm NOT
>    gonna buy the new crap-phone from THEM - but
>    from another. Pref Android. Samsung phones
>    are gonna be IT.

If you can still get Shok to ship you the phone, the Schok
Classic flip phone is fairly good.  It claims to run actual
Android rather than Alcatel's Kai OS.  The virtual mouse cursor
works for a lot of web-app-y stuff.  Unfortunately, I think Schok
is phasing out their flip phones.

Your landline carrier sounds like Ziply.  If so I suggest caution
when porting a number.  About 1.5 years ago, I ported my 20+yo
landline number from Ziply to Ooma but wanted to continue the
FIOS internet service.  Despite a Ziply agent assuring me that
the internet service would continue without interruption, Ziply
shut down the internet service at 10pm on a Sunday night, which
caused me to miss a whole Monday of WFH.  Xfinity/Comcast had new
service functioning late Monday afternoon.  Ziply was ~24 hours
later, which would have cost 2 days of work.

Other than Ziply's lack of truthfulness and back-stabbing, the
switch to Ooma for the landline number has been very good.

-- 
Robert Riches
spamtrap42@jacob21819.net
(Yes, that is one of my email addresses.)

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#89950

On 8/16/26 12:44, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> On 16/08/2026 15:30, Leroy H wrote:
>> I am not knocking GNU/Linux.  I prefer it and use it for
>> much paid ($$$) pro work but the dregs of the world know
>> only M$ Win.
>>
> So you need it professionally. Fairy Nuff
> 
> I don't

   I had to "know it professionally" for a LONG
   time. Big offices full of M$ boxes - and NOBODY
   was gonna change, couldn't COPE.

   Now the whole "back-end", I changed that to Linux
   as fast as possible. Didn't even have M$ on my
   personal box there. Good servers/networking/net/
   routing/etc ... use Linux !

   The new guys, they totally sold out to M$.

   It's gonna BITE sooner or later - probably sooner.

   But then they can BLAME it on M$ - "Not OUR Fault !!!".

>> Thus, it is not inappropriate for the GNU/Linux advocate
>> to install Win11.
> 
> Well that's OK because I am not a Linux/Unix advocate. I am a contented 
> user.

   ALL I ever use. The Better Plan.

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#89937

At Sat, 15 Aug 2026 20:45:49 +0000, L Thorpe <lt666@sixsixsix.net>
wrote:

> Ahoy Pie R8s!
>
> Even though I use GNU/Linux exclusively we all need to maintain
> a working version of Win11.

I've been pondering this koan for a little while now, and I haven't
had the "aha" moment yet.  Maybe it can be found plumbing the depths
of "TINW"?  Beats me.

BTW, I know you're excited about your latest MS Windows purchase,
but I can't see how that is on topic for colm.

Also, you didn't compare MS Windows to Linux, so it's off-topic
in cola, too.

Message-ID: <comp.os.linux.advocacy-RFD1@uunet.uu.net>

Summary from article:
Summary: comp.os.linux.advocacy is to be an unmoderated group for the
discussion of the positive and negative sides of Linux and comparison 
of Linux with other operating systems.

CHARTER:

   The proposed group will provide a forum for the discussion of Linux.
In addition, it will allow comp.os.linux.misc to deal with
Linux-specific issues.	Discussion will include (but not be limited to)
the discussion of the pros and cons of Linux and appliactions for
Linux, and the comparison of Linux with other operating systems and
enviromnets such as Microsoft DOS and Windows, SCO UNIX, Coherent,
NeXTstep, Macintosh System, etc.  It will be an unmoderated forum.
 _ _ _ _ _ _ _

(Here endeth this ancient history lesson.)

I've set fu2: cola for further discussion.  Since you morphed
out of my kf once again, I can eagerly await your sagacious
remarks.

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