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Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11

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  Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 L Thorpe <lt666@sixsixsix.net> - 2026-08-15 20:45 +0000
    Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-08-15 17:10 -0400
      Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 L Thorpe <lt666@sixsixsix.net> - 2026-08-15 21:15 +0000
        Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-08-15 17:21 -0400
          Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 Leroy H <lh@somewhere.net> - 2026-08-15 22:56 +0000
    Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-16 02:26 -0400
      Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-08-16 03:01 -0400
        Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-08-17 09:48 -0700
          Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-08-17 12:54 -0400
          Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-17 17:49 +0000
            Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-08-17 14:34 -0400
              Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-17 23:48 +0000
            Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-08-17 12:14 -0700
              Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-17 22:55 +0000
          Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 Leroy H <lh@somewhere.net> - 2026-08-17 19:33 +0000
            Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-08-17 15:39 -0400
            Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 Leroy H <lh@somewhere.net> - 2026-08-17 20:13 +0000
      Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-16 10:58 +0200
      Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 Leroy H <lh@somewhere.net> - 2026-08-16 14:30 +0000
        Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-16 17:44 +0100
          Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 L Thorpe <lt666@sixsixsix.net> - 2026-08-16 17:01 +0000
            Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-17 00:52 -0400
              Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-08-17 16:58 +0000
                Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-08-17 13:45 -0400
                  Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-08-17 18:59 +0000
                    Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-08-17 15:16 -0400
                      OT (was: Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11) "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-08-17 21:20 +0100
                        Re: OT "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-08-17 16:42 -0400
                          Re: OT "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-08-17 22:21 +0100
                            Re: OT "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-08-17 18:23 -0400
                          Re: OT John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-08-17 14:34 -0700
                            Re: OT "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-08-17 18:24 -0400
                              Re: OT John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-08-17 15:40 -0700
                                Re: OT "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-08-17 18:44 -0400
                                  Re: OT John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-08-18 07:51 -0700
                                    Re: OT "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-08-18 11:20 -0400
                                      Re: OT John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-08-18 10:24 -0700
                              Re: OT Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-08-18 00:47 +0000
                                Re: OT "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-08-17 20:51 -0400
                                  Re: OT rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-18 03:01 +0000
                                    Re: OT Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-08-18 04:55 +0000
                                Re: OT rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-18 02:55 +0000
                      Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-17 22:51 +0000
                  Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2026-08-18 08:39 +0100
                    Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-08-18 03:52 -0400
                  Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-08-18 21:15 +1000
                    Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-08-18 07:25 -0400
                      Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-08-18 21:44 +1000
                        Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-08-18 07:52 -0400
                        Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-18 13:18 +0100
                          Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-08-18 08:36 -0400
                    Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-18 13:16 +0100
                Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-17 18:07 +0000
                Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-17 23:40 +0000
                  Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-08-17 19:45 -0400
                  Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-08-18 00:47 +0000
                    Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-18 02:51 +0000
                      Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-08-18 03:10 +0000
                      Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-18 00:48 -0400
                        Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-18 10:26 +0100
                      Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-08-18 04:55 +0000
                      Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-08-18 08:55 -0400
                        Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-18 17:24 +0100
                          Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-08-18 16:37 +0000
                    Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-18 10:25 +0100
                      Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-18 15:34 +0000
                        Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-18 17:30 +0100
                      Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-08-18 16:30 +0000
                        Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-18 22:52 +0000
                  Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-18 03:34 +0000
              Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2026-08-17 19:08 +0000
          Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-16 23:42 -0400
    Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 vallor <vallor@vallor.earth> - 2026-08-16 11:55 +0000

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#90029

FromCharlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid>
Date2026-08-18 04:55 +0000
Message-ID<KARgS.26588$trLf.4243@fx20.iad>
In reply to#90015
On 2026-08-18, Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

> On Tue, 18 Aug 2026 00:47:07 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
>
>> On 2026-08-17, Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>> On Mon, 17 Aug 2026 16:58:52 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
>>>
>>>> I find it ironic that these huge, right-wing companies are working
>>>> to achieve Karl Marx's fondest dream: the elimination of private
>>>> property. (We could quibble about these companies being private
>>>> themselves, or just acknowledge that they're more part of the
>>>> government than private citizens.)
>>>
>>> Karl Marx would be spinning in his grave if he knew you were
>>> claiming that the corporations whose power he was against were in
>>> any way the fulfilment of his ideas.
>>
>> That's the lovely thing about irony.  :-)
>
> Point being, it’s just wrong. Communism is about the Government taking
> control of the means of production, not about the owners of the means
> of production taking control of the Government.
>
> To understand the difference, just compare the USA with China right
> now. One of those is doing one of those things, the other is doing the
> other one of those things.

    Under capitalism, man exploits man.
    Under communism, it's just the opposite.
      -- John Kenneth Galbraith

-- 
/~\  Charlie Gibbs                  |  In this world there are
\ /  <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid>      |  two kinds of people:
 X   I'm really at ac.dekanfrus     |  1. Those who can extrapolate
/ \  if you read it the right way.  |  from incomplete data.

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#90060

FromCrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge>
Date2026-08-18 08:55 -0400
Message-ID<6a845631$0$19$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>
In reply to#90015
On 2026-08-17 10:51 p.m., Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
> On Tue, 18 Aug 2026 00:47:07 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
> 
>> On 2026-08-17, Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>> On Mon, 17 Aug 2026 16:58:52 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
>>>
>>>> I find it ironic that these huge, right-wing companies are working
>>>> to achieve Karl Marx's fondest dream: the elimination of private
>>>> property. (We could quibble about these companies being private
>>>> themselves, or just acknowledge that they're more part of the
>>>> government than private citizens.)
>>>
>>> Karl Marx would be spinning in his grave if he knew you were
>>> claiming that the corporations whose power he was against were in
>>> any way the fulfilment of his ideas.
>>
>> That's the lovely thing about irony.  :-)
> 
> Point being, it’s just wrong. Communism is about the Government taking
> control of the means of production, not about the owners of the means
> of production taking control of the Government.
> 
> To understand the difference, just compare the USA with China right
> now. One of those is doing one of those things, the other is doing the
> other one of those things.

When you consider how companies are being swallowed up by bigger 
entities putting power of production into the hands of fewer and fewer 
people, it's almost as if we are going in the same direction with 
capitalism. The only difference is that with Communism, the government 
is the one exploiting the workers.

-- 
CrudeSausage
M4 MacBook Air
Matthew 7:15
John 14:6

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#90070

FromThe Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Date2026-08-18 17:24 +0100
Message-ID<116210n$1v4qd$4@dont-email.me>
In reply to#90060
On 18/08/2026 13:55, CrudeSausage wrote:
> On 2026-08-17 10:51 p.m., Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
>> On Tue, 18 Aug 2026 00:47:07 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
>>
>>> On 2026-08-17, Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Mon, 17 Aug 2026 16:58:52 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I find it ironic that these huge, right-wing companies are working
>>>>> to achieve Karl Marx's fondest dream: the elimination of private
>>>>> property. (We could quibble about these companies being private
>>>>> themselves, or just acknowledge that they're more part of the
>>>>> government than private citizens.)
>>>>
>>>> Karl Marx would be spinning in his grave if he knew you were
>>>> claiming that the corporations whose power he was against were in
>>>> any way the fulfilment of his ideas.
>>>
>>> That's the lovely thing about irony.  :-)
>>
>> Point being, it’s just wrong. Communism is about the Government taking
>> control of the means of production, not about the owners of the means
>> of production taking control of the Government.
>>
>> To understand the difference, just compare the USA with China right
>> now. One of those is doing one of those things, the other is doing the
>> other one of those things.
> 
> When you consider how companies are being swallowed up by bigger 
> entities putting power of production into the hands of fewer and fewer 
> people, it's almost as if we are going in the same direction with 
> capitalism. The only difference is that with Communism, the government 
> is the one exploiting the workers.
> 
They are in fact merging.
The so called 'right' - the corpocracy - is telling the sheeple that it 
is in fact a sort of acceptable communism. Gonna see you right, bro.

-- 
Climate is what you expect but weather is what you get.
Mark Twain

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#90075

FromCharlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid>
Date2026-08-18 16:37 +0000
Message-ID<YS%gS.22329$B3ve.19649@fx06.iad>
In reply to#90070
On 2026-08-18, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:

> On 18/08/2026 13:55, CrudeSausage wrote:
>
>> On 2026-08-17 10:51 p.m., Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, 18 Aug 2026 00:47:07 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2026-08-17, Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, 17 Aug 2026 16:58:52 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I find it ironic that these huge, right-wing companies are working
>>>>>> to achieve Karl Marx's fondest dream: the elimination of private
>>>>>> property. (We could quibble about these companies being private
>>>>>> themselves, or just acknowledge that they're more part of the
>>>>>> government than private citizens.)
>>>>>
>>>>> Karl Marx would be spinning in his grave if he knew you were
>>>>> claiming that the corporations whose power he was against were in
>>>>> any way the fulfilment of his ideas.
>>>>
>>>> That's the lovely thing about irony.  :-)
>>>
>>> Point being, it’s just wrong. Communism is about the Government taking
>>> control of the means of production, not about the owners of the means
>>> of production taking control of the Government.
>>>
>>> To understand the difference, just compare the USA with China right
>>> now. One of those is doing one of those things, the other is doing the
>>> other one of those things.
>> 
>> When you consider how companies are being swallowed up by bigger 
>> entities putting power of production into the hands of fewer and fewer 
>> people, it's almost as if we are going in the same direction with 
>> capitalism. The only difference is that with Communism, the government 
>> is the one exploiting the workers.
> 
> They are in fact merging.
> The so called 'right' - the corpocracy - is telling the sheeple that it 
> is in fact a sort of acceptable communism. Gonna see you right, bro.

Many people view the political spectrum as a line stretching off to
infinity in both directions.  The left end is known as a "worker's
paradise" by the left-wingers, and "godless communism" by the
right-wingers.  The right end is known as "sweetness and light"
by the right-wingers and God knows what by the left-wingers.
(Corporatocracy, perhaps, or maybe "corporate fascism".)

In actual fact, the ends of this line curve around and meet,
meaning that Hitler and Stalin really aren't that far apart.
As somone once said in one of these discussions, the extremists
all meet somewhere around on the dark side.

-- 
/~\  Charlie Gibbs                  |  In this world there are
\ /  <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid>      |  two kinds of people:
 X   I'm really at ac.dekanfrus     |  1. Those who can extrapolate
/ \  if you read it the right way.  |  from incomplete data.

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#90048

FromThe Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Date2026-08-18 10:25 +0100
Message-ID<11618dq$1mmpl$3@dont-email.me>
In reply to#90006
On 18/08/2026 01:47, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
>   "Corporatocracy" seems to be preferable.
Corpocracy. Be British. Don't multiply syllables beyond necessity. 
(William of Occam, A Brit, adapted)..
-- 
"Socialist governments traditionally do make a financial mess. They 
always run out of other people's money. It's quite a characteristic of them"

Margaret Thatcher

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#90067

Fromrbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Date2026-08-18 15:34 +0000
Message-ID<nejcbcFe0jfU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#90048
On Tue, 18 Aug 2026 10:25:14 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

> On 18/08/2026 01:47, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
>>   "Corporatocracy" seems to be preferable.
> Corpocracy. Be British. Don't multiply syllables beyond necessity.
> (William of Occam, A Brit, adapted)..

That might be confused with coprophagia -- or perhaps they are the same 
thing. I've always had a soft spot for Old Bill, not wanting to dwell in 
Plato's Cloud Cuckoo Land.

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#90074

FromThe Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Date2026-08-18 17:30 +0100
Message-ID<11621bo$1v4qd$5@dont-email.me>
In reply to#90067
On 18/08/2026 16:34, rbowman wrote:
> On Tue, 18 Aug 2026 10:25:14 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> 
>> On 18/08/2026 01:47, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
>>> "Corporatocracy" seems to be preferable.
>> Corpocracy. Be British. Don't multiply syllables beyond necessity. 
>> (William of Occam, A Brit, adapted)..
> 
> That might be confused with coprophagia -- or perhaps they are the
> same thing.

I dear, they may well converge as the old doctrine about 'mushroom'
management says "Keep them in the dark and feed them on bullshit"

 > I've always had a soft spot for Old Bill, not wanting to dwell in
> Plato's Cloud Cuckoo Land.

Ah. That got me for a second. In the UK The Old Bill are in fact the 
fuzz, pigs, cops, etc.

Willy Occam understood what everyone else forgot till Hume. A Hypothesis 
is only disprovable.

In which case why be so damned complicated. It was all lies anyway.. No 
one knew the truth and only the Church claimed to...



-- 
Climate is what you expect but weather is what you get.
Mark Twain

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#90071

FromCharlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid>
Date2026-08-18 16:30 +0000
Message-ID<eM%gS.35896$Wz_7.5769@fx40.iad>
In reply to#90048
On 2026-08-18, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:

> On 18/08/2026 01:47, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
>
>>   "Corporatocracy" seems to be preferable.
>
> Corpocracy. Be British. Don't multiply syllables beyond necessity. 
> (William of Occam, A Brit, adapted)..

"Orientate" is an example of the trend toward polysyllabificationizing.

(My other pet peeve: saying "preventative" instead of "preventive".)

-- 
/~\  Charlie Gibbs                  |  In this world there are
\ /  <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid>      |  two kinds of people:
 X   I'm really at ac.dekanfrus     |  1. Those who can extrapolate
/ \  if you read it the right way.  |  from incomplete data.

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#90080

FromLawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid>
Date2026-08-18 22:52 +0000
Message-ID<1162nmp$26tip$6@dont-email.me>
In reply to#90071
On Tue, 18 Aug 2026 16:30:02 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote:

> On 2026-08-18, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>
>> On 18/08/2026 01:47, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
>>
>>>   "Corporatocracy" seems to be preferable.
>>
>> Corpocracy. Be British. Don't multiply syllables beyond necessity.
>> (William of Occam, A Brit, adapted)..
>
> "Orientate" is an example of the trend toward
> polysyllabificationizing.
>
> (My other pet peeve: saying "preventative" instead of "preventive".)

“Adaptation” or “adaption”?

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#90021

Fromrbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Date2026-08-18 03:34 +0000
Message-ID<nei26pFpk4lU43@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#90002
On Mon, 17 Aug 2026 23:40:31 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:

> The term for private corporations having more power over ordinary
> citizens’ lives than the Government, is not “Communism”, but “Fascism”.
> Or possibly “Corporatism”.

Corporatism isn't what you think it is. Try corporatocracy.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporatism
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporatocracy

Fascism adopted some corporatist ideas via Gabriele D'Annunzio, although 
D'Annunzio didn't have much use for Mussolini. 

'Fascism' with the lower case 'f' means whatever the purple haired, 
pierced harpy thinks it means.

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#89981

FromRobert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net>
Date2026-08-17 19:08 +0000
Message-ID<slrn1186n1q.338.spamtrap42@one.localnet>
In reply to#89956
On 2026-08-17, c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote:
>
>    At some point soon I'm gonna need to buy a
>    half-ass big-screen "phone". HATE 'em. Keep
>    a little FLIP as my mobile now. My carrier is
>    not gonna support my great old landline much
>    longer - they've already raised the PRICE
>    insanely, hoping I'll quit. Clue, I'm NOT
>    gonna buy the new crap-phone from THEM - but
>    from another. Pref Android. Samsung phones
>    are gonna be IT.

If you can still get Shok to ship you the phone, the Schok
Classic flip phone is fairly good.  It claims to run actual
Android rather than Alcatel's Kai OS.  The virtual mouse cursor
works for a lot of web-app-y stuff.  Unfortunately, I think Schok
is phasing out their flip phones.

Your landline carrier sounds like Ziply.  If so I suggest caution
when porting a number.  About 1.5 years ago, I ported my 20+yo
landline number from Ziply to Ooma but wanted to continue the
FIOS internet service.  Despite a Ziply agent assuring me that
the internet service would continue without interruption, Ziply
shut down the internet service at 10pm on a Sunday night, which
caused me to miss a whole Monday of WFH.  Xfinity/Comcast had new
service functioning late Monday afternoon.  Ziply was ~24 hours
later, which would have cost 2 days of work.

Other than Ziply's lack of truthfulness and back-stabbing, the
switch to Ooma for the landline number has been very good.

-- 
Robert Riches
spamtrap42@jacob21819.net
(Yes, that is one of my email addresses.)

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#89950

Fromc186282 <c186282@nnada.net>
Date2026-08-16 23:42 -0400
Message-ID<DN6dnTIf_urfHh_3nZ2dnZfqnPadnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#89940
On 8/16/26 12:44, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> On 16/08/2026 15:30, Leroy H wrote:
>> I am not knocking GNU/Linux.  I prefer it and use it for
>> much paid ($$$) pro work but the dregs of the world know
>> only M$ Win.
>>
> So you need it professionally. Fairy Nuff
> 
> I don't

   I had to "know it professionally" for a LONG
   time. Big offices full of M$ boxes - and NOBODY
   was gonna change, couldn't COPE.

   Now the whole "back-end", I changed that to Linux
   as fast as possible. Didn't even have M$ on my
   personal box there. Good servers/networking/net/
   routing/etc ... use Linux !

   The new guys, they totally sold out to M$.

   It's gonna BITE sooner or later - probably sooner.

   But then they can BLAME it on M$ - "Not OUR Fault !!!".

>> Thus, it is not inappropriate for the GNU/Linux advocate
>> to install Win11.
> 
> Well that's OK because I am not a Linux/Unix advocate. I am a contented 
> user.

   ALL I ever use. The Better Plan.

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#89937

Fromvallor <vallor@vallor.earth>
Date2026-08-16 11:55 +0000
Message-ID<115s8f7$4260$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#89911
At Sat, 15 Aug 2026 20:45:49 +0000, L Thorpe <lt666@sixsixsix.net>
wrote:

> Ahoy Pie R8s!
>
> Even though I use GNU/Linux exclusively we all need to maintain
> a working version of Win11.

I've been pondering this koan for a little while now, and I haven't
had the "aha" moment yet.  Maybe it can be found plumbing the depths
of "TINW"?  Beats me.

BTW, I know you're excited about your latest MS Windows purchase,
but I can't see how that is on topic for colm.

Also, you didn't compare MS Windows to Linux, so it's off-topic
in cola, too.

Message-ID: <comp.os.linux.advocacy-RFD1@uunet.uu.net>

Summary from article:
Summary: comp.os.linux.advocacy is to be an unmoderated group for the
discussion of the positive and negative sides of Linux and comparison 
of Linux with other operating systems.

CHARTER:

   The proposed group will provide a forum for the discussion of Linux.
In addition, it will allow comp.os.linux.misc to deal with
Linux-specific issues.	Discussion will include (but not be limited to)
the discussion of the pros and cons of Linux and appliactions for
Linux, and the comparison of Linux with other operating systems and
enviromnets such as Microsoft DOS and Windows, SCO UNIX, Coherent,
NeXTstep, Macintosh System, etc.  It will be an unmoderated forum.
 _ _ _ _ _ _ _

(Here endeth this ancient history lesson.)

I've set fu2: cola for further discussion.  Since you morphed
out of my kf once again, I can eagerly await your sagacious
remarks.

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