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Re: Wow - Now Even COL.M - No Posts For DAYS

Newsgroups comp.os.linux.misc
From Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr>
Subject Re: Wow - Now Even COL.M - No Posts For DAYS
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Date 2021-11-13 11:06 +0000

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Le 12-11-2021, Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> a écrit :
> On 2021-11-12, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>
>> On 12/11/2021 16:12, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:
>>
>>> Le 12-11-2021, 166p1 <z24ba6.net> a écrit :
>>>
>>>>     GUI tools can accomplish in minutes what would take hours to do in
>>>>     tweaking dozens of config files with a text editor
>>> 
>>> Do you have an example of task better handled by a GUI than by a text
>>> editor or by the command line?
>>
>> Well 3D CAD is a bit hard on a command line. In fact even 2D cad is.
>> Heck even code editing benefits from highlighting and section collapsing
>> I use whichever works better, frankly.
>
> Exactly.  

No. It's obvious, some things are easier to do with the GUI than with
the CLI. But the purpose of editing config files is not to use an
application, but to configure it. It's unrelated with the claim. Of
course, nobody is saying some games can be done by editing confing files
instead of using their GUI.

> And some tasks can be done well with either a CLI or a GUI.
> Some people prefer one, some prefer the other.

The claim is not about the choice. You choose what you prefer, I have
nothing against it. The claim is it can be something like 60 times
faster to use the GUI than to edit config files. So for this claim, I
want examples.


> You say "po-tay-to", I say "po-tah-to".  The important point is that
> people should have the freedom to choose whether they want to use a
> CLI or a GUI.  And it's not a one-time choice - sometimes you might
> want to do the same task one way or the other.

It's not the sentence to which I was responding. He wasn't speaking og
choice but of huge efficiency. 

> The problem comes when GUI proponents try to discourage CLIs.
> And a poorly-designed CLI is not an argument for GUIs (any
> more than a poorly-designed GUI is an argument for CLIs).

The problem mostly is that CLI need to be learned. When GUI can be
discovered. So it looks easier for the beginner who is to lazy to learn.

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Wow - Now Even COL.M - No Posts For DAYS 166p1 <z24ba6.net> - 2021-11-10 00:21 -0500
  Re: Wow - Now Even COL.M - No Posts For DAYS Bobbie Sellers <bliss@mouse-potato.com> - 2021-11-09 21:38 -0800
    Re: Wow - Now Even COL.M - No Posts For DAYS 166p1 <z24ba6.net> - 2021-11-10 20:46 -0500
      Re: Wow - Now Even COL.M - No Posts For DAYS Bobbie Sellers <bliss@mouse-potato.com> - 2021-11-10 18:42 -0800
        Re: Wow - Now Even COL.M - No Posts For DAYS 166p1 <z24ba6.net> - 2021-11-11 20:22 -0500
          Re: Wow - Now Even COL.M - No Posts For DAYS Bobbie Sellers <bliss@mouse-potato.com> - 2021-11-11 20:38 -0800
            Re: Wow - Now Even COL.M - No Posts For DAYS 166p1 <z24ba6.net> - 2021-11-12 23:45 -0500
              Re: Wow - Now Even COL.M - No Posts For DAYS Bobbie Sellers <bliss@mouse-potato.com> - 2021-11-12 22:00 -0800
                Re: Wow - Now Even COL.M - No Posts For DAYS 166p1 <z24ba6.net> - 2021-11-14 23:09 -0500
                Re: Wow - Now Even COL.M - No Posts For DAYS Bobbie Sellers <bliss@mouse-potato.com> - 2021-11-14 21:08 -0800
                Re: Wow - Now Even COL.M - No Posts For DAYS Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-11-15 13:05 -0500
                Re: Wow - Now Even COL.M - No Posts For DAYS Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2021-11-20 09:30 +0000
                Re: Wow - Now Even COL.M - No Posts For DAYS Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-11-20 12:43 -0500
                Re: Wow - Now Even COL.M - No Posts For DAYS 166p1 <z24ba6.net> - 2021-11-17 01:23 -0500
                Re: Wow - Now Even COL.M - No Posts For DAYS Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2021-11-17 14:25 +0100
                Re: Wow - Now Even COL.M - No Posts For DAYS 166p1 <z24ba6.net> - 2021-11-20 01:17 -0500
                Re: Wow - Now Even COL.M - No Posts For DAYS Eric Pozharski <whynot@pozharski.name> - 2021-11-16 12:02 +0000
                Re: Wow - Now Even COL.M - No Posts For DAYS "David W. Hodgins" <dwhodgins@nomail.afraid.org> - 2021-11-16 13:39 -0500
                Re: Wow - Now Even COL.M - No Posts For DAYS Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-11-16 16:19 -0500
                Re: Wow - Now Even COL.M - No Posts For DAYS 166p1 <z24ba6.net> - 2021-11-17 01:29 -0500
                Re: Wow - Now Even COL.M - No Posts For DAYS Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-11-17 17:28 +0000
                Re: Wow - Now Even COL.M - No Posts For DAYS The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-11-18 07:57 +0000
                Re: Wow - Now Even COL.M - No Posts For DAYS 166p1 <z24ba6.net> - 2021-11-20 00:14 -0500
                Re: Wow - Now Even COL.M - No Posts For DAYS Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-11-17 13:20 -0500
                Re: Wow - Now Even COL.M - No Posts For DAYS Bobbie Sellers <bliss@mouse-potato.com> - 2021-11-17 11:26 -0800
                Re: Wow - Now Even COL.M - No Posts For DAYS 166p1 <z24ba6.net> - 2021-11-20 00:41 -0500
                Re: Wow - Now Even COL.M - No Posts For DAYS Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2021-11-20 09:38 +0000
                Re: Wow - Now Even COL.M - No Posts For DAYS Eric Pozharski <whynot@pozharski.name> - 2021-11-18 10:02 +0000
                Re: Wow - Now Even COL.M - No Posts For DAYS Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-11-18 12:09 -0500
              Re: Wow - Now Even COL.M - No Posts For DAYS The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-11-13 08:22 +0000
              Re: Wow - Now Even COL.M - No Posts For DAYS Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-11-13 19:51 +0000
                Re: Wow - Now Even COL.M - No Posts For DAYS Bobbie Sellers <bliss@mouse-potato.com> - 2021-11-13 12:40 -0800
          Re: Wow - Now Even COL.M - No Posts For DAYS Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2021-11-12 16:12 +0000
            Re: Wow - Now Even COL.M - No Posts For DAYS The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-11-12 17:57 +0000
              Re: Wow - Now Even COL.M - No Posts For DAYS Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-11-12 19:41 +0000
                Re: Wow - Now Even COL.M - No Posts For DAYS Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2021-11-13 11:06 +0000
                Re: Wow - Now Even COL.M - No Posts For DAYS The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-11-13 11:53 +0000
                Re: Wow - Now Even COL.M - No Posts For DAYS Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2021-11-13 15:14 +0000
                Re: Wow - Now Even COL.M - No Posts For DAYS Eric Pozharski <whynot@pozharski.name> - 2021-11-14 15:25 +0000
                Re: Wow - Now Even COL.M - No Posts For DAYS Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2021-11-20 09:13 +0000
                Re: Wow - Now Even COL.M - No Posts For DAYS Eric Pozharski <whynot@pozharski.name> - 2021-11-20 15:38 +0000
                Re: Wow - Now Even COL.M - No Posts For DAYS Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2021-11-21 09:04 +0000
                Re: Wow - Now Even COL.M - No Posts For DAYS 166p1 <z24ba6.net> - 2021-11-21 12:38 -0500
                Re: Wow - Now Even COL.M - No Posts For DAYS Eric Pozharski <whynot@pozharski.name> - 2021-11-26 09:02 +0000
                Re: Wow - Now Even COL.M - No Posts For DAYS The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-11-26 11:46 +0000
                Re: Wow - Now Even COL.M - No Posts For DAYS 166p1 <z24ba6.net> - 2021-11-27 00:21 -0500
                Re: Wow - Now Even COL.M - No Posts For DAYS Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2021-11-27 09:33 +0000
                Re: Wow - Now Even COL.M - No Posts For DAYS The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-11-27 09:39 +0000
                Re: Wow - Now Even COL.M - No Posts For DAYS Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2021-11-27 10:07 +0000
                Re: Wow - Now Even COL.M - No Posts For DAYS The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-11-27 11:27 +0000
                Re: Wow - Now Even COL.M - No Posts For DAYS Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2021-11-27 09:17 +0000
                Re: Wow - Now Even COL.M - No Posts For DAYS Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2021-11-27 09:07 +0000
                Re: Wow - Now Even COL.M - No Posts For DAYS Eric Pozharski <whynot@pozharski.name> - 2021-11-21 16:45 +0000
                Re: Wow - Now Even COL.M - No Posts For DAYS Bobbie Sellers <bliss@mouse-potato.com> - 2021-11-21 11:22 -0800
                Re: Wow - Now Even COL.M - No Posts For DAYS 166p1 <z24ba6.net> - 2021-11-22 00:43 -0500
                Re: Wow - Now Even COL.M - No Posts For DAYS Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2021-11-27 09:40 +0000
              Re: Wow - Now Even COL.M - No Posts For DAYS Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2021-11-13 10:56 +0000
                Re: Wow - Now Even COL.M - No Posts For DAYS The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-11-13 11:45 +0000
        Re: Wow - Now Even COL.M - No Posts For DAYS Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-11-12 03:16 -0500
          Re: Wow - Now Even COL.M - No Posts For DAYS Bobbie Sellers <bliss@mouse-potato.com> - 2021-11-27 09:49 -0800
    Re: Wow - Now Even COL.M - No Posts For DAYS Steve Mysterious <tinker123@gmail.com> - 2021-11-13 18:20 -0800

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