Re: Yeeks ! DO Check Yer Phone Batteries !!!

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From	"Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
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Subject	Re: Yeeks ! DO Check Yer Phone Batteries !!!
Date	Thu, 10 Sep 2026 21:00:40 +0200
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On 2026-09-10 20:46, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> On 10/09/2026 18:16, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>> On 2026-09-10 12:58, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>> On 10/09/2026 08:14, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>>> On 2026-09-10 06:33, c186282 wrote:
>>>>> Today I went to charge-up a spare battery for
>>>>> my flip phone. Easiest to do it by putting it
>>>>> in the phone and then charging.
>>>>>
>>>>> Finally got the case open - and saw the existing
>>>>> battery was physically SWOLLEN ... ie kinda more
>>>>> likely to EXPLODE.
>>>>>
>>>>> No other SIGNS of this. So FAR it's performance
>>>>> seemed "OK".
>>>>>
>>>>> Now it's in my oven - 500+ degree safety - before
>>>>> I either bury it or toss it in my little pond.
>>>>
>>>> Don't - it is poisonous.
>>>>
>>> It isnt.
>>
>> ChatGPT
>>
>> Q: Are lithium phone batteries poisonous for the environment? Like 
>> disposing them in a pond.
>>
>> A: Yes. Lithium-ion phone batteries should absolutely not be disposed 
>> of in a pond, river, soil, or ordinary household waste.
>>
>> They can harm the environment because:
>>
>>      Battery chemicals and metals can leach into the water and 
>> sediment if the casing is damaged or corrodes. Electrolytes can be 
>> toxic to aquatic organisms.
>>      Batteries contain valuable but potentially environmentally 
>> harmful materials such as lithium, cobalt, nickel, copper, and manganese.
>>      A discarded battery can short-circuit, potentially causing a fire 
>> —even underwater or after being removed from the water.
>>      In a pond, contamination can accumulate in sediment and aquatic 
>> life, rather than simply disappearing.
>>
> None of that states that they are explicitly POISONOUS. And none of it 
> is specific..its all handwavey bullshit.

The regulations here say that they are poisonous. Or toxic. Same thing.

> 
>> If you're asking because a phone battery has already been thrown into 
>> a pond, tell me roughly what happened and whether you can safely 
>> retrieve it. I can explain the safest way to handle it and what to do 
>> about the water/environment.
>>
> I haven't  thrown any into a pond, no, but I don't do RC model boats or 
> throw smartphones in ponds.

c186282 has.


> 
> But I HAVE seen then catch fire. And for a phone sized battery, in the 
> open, it's no big deal.
> 
> You lose the model plane and some fairly  expensive electronics,  but 
> that's it. Oh g the grass gets scorched too.
> More damage happened when a guy in california left a pack - not 
> connected to ANYTHING -  in the front seat of his car,. In a sunny car 
> park.
> 
> Came pack and car was burned out
> 
> 
> Batteries have been going into landfill for years.  Its only recently 
> that people are collecting them for recycling
> 
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>>> Surely your country has battery disposal services, unless it is a 
>>>> third world one.
>>>>
>>> Well we have already seen that in terms of politics and general 
>>> infrastructure the USA is in fact a very large banana republic with a 
>>> strutting president and [willing?] serfs.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
> 


-- 
Cheers, Carlos.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;

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Yeeks ! DO Check Yer Phone Batteries !!! c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-09-10 00:33 -0400
  Re: Yeeks ! DO Check Yer Phone Batteries !!! "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-10 09:14 +0200
    Re: Yeeks ! DO Check Yer Phone Batteries !!! c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-09-10 04:39 -0400
      Re: Yeeks ! DO Check Yer Phone Batteries !!! The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-10 12:02 +0100
      Re: Yeeks ! DO Check Yer Phone Batteries !!! Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2026-09-10 09:41 -0700
      Re: Yeeks ! DO Check Yer Phone Batteries !!! rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-10 17:58 +0000
    Re: Yeeks ! DO Check Yer Phone Batteries !!! The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-10 11:58 +0100
      Re: Yeeks ! DO Check Yer Phone Batteries !!! "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-10 19:16 +0200
        Re: Yeeks ! DO Check Yer Phone Batteries !!! The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-10 19:46 +0100
          Re: Yeeks ! DO Check Yer Phone Batteries !!! "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-10 21:00 +0200
          Re: Yeeks ! DO Check Yer Phone Batteries !!! rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-11 03:46 +0000
            Re: Yeeks ! DO Check Yer Phone Batteries !!! The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-11 10:54 +0100
              Re: Yeeks ! DO Check Yer Phone Batteries !!! rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-11 18:49 +0000
                Re: Yeeks ! DO Check Yer Phone Batteries !!! The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-12 11:27 +0100
              Re: Yeeks ! DO Check Yer Phone Batteries !!! c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-09-12 02:07 -0400
                Re: Yeeks ! DO Check Yer Phone Batteries !!! The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-12 11:34 +0100
                Re: Yeeks ! DO Check Yer Phone Batteries !!! "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-12 13:53 +0200
                Re: Yeeks ! DO Check Yer Phone Batteries !!! rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-12 18:38 +0000
                Re: Yeeks ! DO Check Yer Phone Batteries !!! "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-12 21:38 +0200
                Re: Yeeks ! DO Check Yer Phone Batteries !!! Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-09-13 15:04 +0000
                Re: Yeeks ! DO Check Yer Phone Batteries !!! rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-13 19:27 +0000
                Re: Yeeks ! DO Check Yer Phone Batteries !!! The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-13 21:06 +0100
                Re: Yeeks ! DO Check Yer Phone Batteries !!! c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-09-13 21:51 -0400
                Re: Yeeks ! DO Check Yer Phone Batteries !!! Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-09-14 15:28 +0000
        Re: Yeeks ! DO Check Yer Phone Batteries !!! Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-11 00:17 +0100
          Re: Yeeks ! DO Check Yer Phone Batteries !!! The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-11 00:30 +0100
  Re: Yeeks ! DO Check Yer Phone Batteries !!! The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-10 11:55 +0100
    Re: Yeeks ! DO Check Yer Phone Batteries !!! rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-10 18:09 +0000
      Re: Yeeks ! DO Check Yer Phone Batteries !!! The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-10 19:49 +0100
        Re: Yeeks ! DO Check Yer Phone Batteries !!! rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-11 03:11 +0000
          Re: Yeeks ! DO Check Yer Phone Batteries !!! The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-11 10:51 +0100
            Re: Yeeks ! DO Check Yer Phone Batteries !!! rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-11 18:52 +0000
              Re: Yeeks ! DO Check Yer Phone Batteries !!! c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-09-12 02:23 -0400
              Re: Yeeks ! DO Check Yer Phone Batteries !!! The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-12 11:30 +0100
                Re: Yeeks ! DO Check Yer Phone Batteries !!! Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-09-12 17:06 +0100
                Re: Yeeks ! DO Check Yer Phone Batteries !!! The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-12 17:50 +0100
                Re: Yeeks ! DO Check Yer Phone Batteries !!! rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-12 18:51 +0000
                Re: Yeeks ! DO Check Yer Phone Batteries !!! The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-13 10:03 +0100
                Re: Yeeks ! DO Check Yer Phone Batteries !!! Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-09-13 16:30 +0000
                Re: Yeeks ! DO Check Yer Phone Batteries !!! c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-09-12 23:49 -0400
                Re: Yeeks ! DO Check Yer Phone Batteries !!! rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-12 18:44 +0000
            Re: Yeeks ! DO Check Yer Phone Batteries !!! c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-09-12 02:00 -0400
      Re: Yeeks ! DO Check Yer Phone Batteries !!! c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-09-11 03:28 -0400
    Re: Yeeks ! DO Check Yer Phone Batteries !!! c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-09-11 01:54 -0400
  Re: Yeeks ! DO Check Yer Phone Batteries !!! Woozy Song <suzyw0ng@outlook.com> - 2026-09-12 10:55 +0800
    Re: Yeeks ! DO Check Yer Phone Batteries !!! Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-09-14 17:14 +0000

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