Path: csiph.com!2.eu.feeder.erje.net!3.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: "Carlos E.R." Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc Subject: Re: Yeeks ! DO Check Yer Phone Batteries !!! Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2026 21:00:40 +0200 Lines: 99 Message-ID: References: <117u2g7$1srqg$10@dont-email.me> <117utub$286tm$2@dont-email.me> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: individual.net GXnKkPnWbSDBJ7PztCamdARPCMI3vUMxF2wpJmr+nZtH/A4Vqc X-Orig-Path: Telcontar.valinor!not-for-mail Cancel-Lock: sha1:CkSJvwmYjmCS0jims17xce2+vIA= sha256:reVLLtSqh4D+v2cceUiluThCnGJVPJOXlGjAcGR/7cE= User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Content-Language: es-ES, en-CA In-Reply-To: <117utub$286tm$2@dont-email.me> X-Leafnode-NNTP-Posting-Host: 127.0.0.1 Xref: csiph.com comp.os.linux.misc:91247 On 2026-09-10 20:46, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > On 10/09/2026 18:16, Carlos E.R. wrote: >> On 2026-09-10 12:58, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >>> On 10/09/2026 08:14, Carlos E.R. wrote: >>>> On 2026-09-10 06:33, c186282 wrote: >>>>> Today I went to charge-up a spare battery for >>>>> my flip phone. Easiest to do it by putting it >>>>> in the phone and then charging. >>>>> >>>>> Finally got the case open - and saw the existing >>>>> battery was physically SWOLLEN ... ie kinda more >>>>> likely to EXPLODE. >>>>> >>>>> No other SIGNS of this. So FAR it's performance >>>>> seemed "OK". >>>>> >>>>> Now it's in my oven - 500+ degree safety - before >>>>> I either bury it or toss it in my little pond. >>>> >>>> Don't - it is poisonous. >>>> >>> It isnt. >> >> ChatGPT >> >> Q: Are lithium phone batteries poisonous for the environment? Like >> disposing them in a pond. >> >> A: Yes. Lithium-ion phone batteries should absolutely not be disposed >> of in a pond, river, soil, or ordinary household waste. >> >> They can harm the environment because: >> >>      Battery chemicals and metals can leach into the water and >> sediment if the casing is damaged or corrodes. Electrolytes can be >> toxic to aquatic organisms. >>      Batteries contain valuable but potentially environmentally >> harmful materials such as lithium, cobalt, nickel, copper, and manganese. >>      A discarded battery can short-circuit, potentially causing a fire >> —even underwater or after being removed from the water. >>      In a pond, contamination can accumulate in sediment and aquatic >> life, rather than simply disappearing. >> > None of that states that they are explicitly POISONOUS. And none of it > is specific..its all handwavey bullshit. The regulations here say that they are poisonous. Or toxic. Same thing. > >> If you're asking because a phone battery has already been thrown into >> a pond, tell me roughly what happened and whether you can safely >> retrieve it. I can explain the safest way to handle it and what to do >> about the water/environment. >> > I haven't  thrown any into a pond, no, but I don't do RC model boats or > throw smartphones in ponds. c186282 has. > > But I HAVE seen then catch fire. And for a phone sized battery, in the > open, it's no big deal. > > You lose the model plane and some fairly  expensive electronics,  but > that's it. Oh g the grass gets scorched too. > More damage happened when a guy in california left a pack - not > connected to ANYTHING -  in the front seat of his car,. In a sunny car > park. > > Came pack and car was burned out > > > Batteries have been going into landfill for years.  Its only recently > that people are collecting them for recycling > >> >> >> >>> >>>> Surely your country has battery disposal services, unless it is a >>>> third world one. >>>> >>> Well we have already seen that in terms of politics and general >>> infrastructure the USA is in fact a very large banana republic with a >>> strutting president and [willing?] serfs. >>> >>> >>> >>>> >>> >> >> > -- Cheers, Carlos. ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;