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Re: Micro-Review "ATT Home-Advanced" System

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From "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
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Subject Re: Micro-Review "ATT Home-Advanced" System
Date Mon, 5 Oct 2026 14:42:05 +0200
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On 2026-10-05 08:31, c186282 wrote:
> On 10/4/26 06:57, Carlos E. R. wrote:
>> On 2026-10-04 05:28, c186282 wrote:
>>> On 10/3/26 07:22, Carlos E. R. wrote:
>>>> On 2026-10-03 11:17, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:
>>>>> Le 03-10-2026, Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> a écrit :
>>>>>> On 2026-10-03, c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://www.foxnews.com/tech/android-malware-steal-pin-bank-logins
>>>>>>
>>>>>> They missed my favourite preventive step: Don't use a smartphone.
>>>>>
>>>>> It's not always an option. In China, if you want to buy anything, you
>>>>> need a smartphone. In France, you can avoid a smartphone, but you will
>>>>> avoid a lot of things which require a smartphone. And it looks like it
>>>>> will become more and more mandatory.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Certainly. Can hardly use a bank without one. Many things need 
>>>> getting a code in the smartphone, like for instance the house alarm.
>>>
>>>    Don't install that kind of house alarm.
>>
>> All use similar systems, or are crap.
> 
>    Build your own ... if you have the
>    electronics skills.

I have, but the law states that an alarm system must be controlled 24/7 
by some organization that can forward alarms to the police.

> A damned Arduino
>    Uno with a relay shield or so can
>    make a really good alarm system with
>    very little code. A Pi-3 with a couple
>    of add-on boards, even better AND can
>    be networked.
> 
>> Here an alarm system that just sounds is basically forbidden. They 
>> must actively warn the user or the police, via phone or something, and 
>> must disable the sound automatically. Can not hound the siren all 
>> night till someone comes.
> 
>    EZ code ...
> 
>> Must be remotely controlled.
> 
>    Is that a Big Brother LAW, or just something
>    kinda useful ? If a LAW - DUMP yer current
>    'leadership' immediately, they are NOT on
>    your side, NOT sane.

It is actually useful.

I have suffered some shop alarm hounding in the deep of the night, non 
stop. The police came, had a hard time shutting it off. Happened more 
than once to the same shop.

Might be an EU regulation about it.

> 
>    Oh wait, UK ? No sanity EVER there :-)
> 
>>>    Also, all phones should have a positive OFF
>>>    switch - cuts them off 100% - no sneaky
>>>    spying or pinging or secret mic activation.
>>
>> I'm certain that my phone when off is actually off.
> 
>    Don't be so SURE.
> 

I am.

>    Most cells are never REALLY off ... the GPS unit
>    keeps recording, 'pings' are still done. The
>    only fix is to pull the battery (which I've done
>    on occasion). Easier with flips than 'smart'phones.
>    There's always the aluminum/Mu foil BAG trick too.
> 

Nope. The GPS system uses significant battery. There are *some* phones 
that keep a tracking system while off, but it is based on low power 
bluetooth. It is a well known system, and the phone docs reports this as 
a feature. *NOT hidden*.

Drop the aluminium foil hat.

>    I'm proposing a very solid OFF switch, disconnects
>    everything but the charger circuit - maybe EVEN
>    the charger in some cases. "NO" should mean "NO".
> 
> https://www.amazon.com/MuMETAL-Magnetic-Shielding-Thick-Sheet/dp/ 
> B017ABFDP8/

Keep Amazon links short.

> 
> https://www.amazon.com/TitanRF-Faraday-Tape-High-Shielding-Conductive/ 
> dp/B07DVSTP9V/
> 
>    We've allowed a Big Brother world "for convenience".
>    Past time to UN-do a lot of that. All yer info WILL
>    be used for evil someday - by yer main people OR by
>    the people who steal their data.
> 


-- 
Cheers,
        Carlos E.R.
        ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺.

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Micro-Review "ATT Home-Advanced" System c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-09-24 01:42 -0400
  Re: Micro-Review "ATT Home-Advanced" System Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-09-24 10:33 +0100
    Re: Micro-Review "ATT Home-Advanced" System The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-24 11:53 +0100
      Re: Micro-Review "ATT Home-Advanced" System Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-09-25 03:43 +0000
    Re: Micro-Review "ATT Home-Advanced" System c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-09-26 00:08 -0400
      Re: Micro-Review "ATT Home-Advanced" System The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-26 09:31 +0100
        Re: Micro-Review "ATT Home-Advanced" System Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-09-26 10:01 +0000
          Re: Micro-Review "ATT Home-Advanced" System The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-26 12:04 +0100
          Re: Micro-Review "ATT Home-Advanced" System c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-09-26 21:39 -0400
        Re: Micro-Review "ATT Home-Advanced" System c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-09-26 21:32 -0400
          Re: Micro-Review "ATT Home-Advanced" System The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-27 07:59 +0100
            Re: Micro-Review "ATT Home-Advanced" System c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-09-27 03:16 -0400
              Re: Micro-Review "ATT Home-Advanced" System The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-27 08:38 +0100
                Re: Micro-Review "ATT Home-Advanced" System rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-27 19:02 +0000
                Re: Micro-Review "ATT Home-Advanced" System The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-28 08:58 +0100
                Re: Micro-Review "ATT Home-Advanced" System rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-28 17:33 +0000
                Re: Micro-Review "ATT Home-Advanced" System c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-09-29 03:25 -0400
                Re: Micro-Review "ATT Home-Advanced" System c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-10-01 01:37 -0400
                Re: Micro-Review "ATT Home-Advanced" System c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-10-02 01:39 -0400
                Re: Micro-Review "ATT Home-Advanced" System "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-02 11:47 +0200
                Re: Micro-Review "ATT Home-Advanced" System The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-02 12:10 +0100
                Re: Micro-Review "ATT Home-Advanced" System "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-02 19:57 +0200
                Re: Micro-Review "ATT Home-Advanced" System rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-03 03:13 +0000
                Re: Micro-Review "ATT Home-Advanced" System c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-10-03 02:07 -0400
                Re: Micro-Review "ATT Home-Advanced" System The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-03 08:47 +0100
                Re: Micro-Review "ATT Home-Advanced" System c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-10-03 04:04 -0400
                Re: Micro-Review "ATT Home-Advanced" System rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-03 20:15 +0000
                Re: Micro-Review "ATT Home-Advanced" System c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-10-03 23:53 -0400
                Re: Micro-Review "ATT Home-Advanced" System rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-04 04:29 +0000
                Re: Micro-Review "ATT Home-Advanced" System c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-10-04 02:03 -0400
                Re: Micro-Review "ATT Home-Advanced" System rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-04 19:10 +0000
                Re: Micro-Review "ATT Home-Advanced" System The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-05 09:56 +0100
                Re: Micro-Review "ATT Home-Advanced" System c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-10-03 01:58 -0400
                Re: Micro-Review "ATT Home-Advanced" System rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-02 19:34 +0000
                Re: Micro-Review "ATT Home-Advanced" System The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-02 20:40 +0100
                Re: Micro-Review "ATT Home-Advanced" System c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-10-02 21:25 -0400
                Re: Micro-Review "ATT Home-Advanced" System c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-10-02 21:18 -0400
                Re: Micro-Review "ATT Home-Advanced" System Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-10-03 05:00 +0000
                Re: Micro-Review "ATT Home-Advanced" System c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-10-03 02:13 -0400
                Re: Micro-Review "ATT Home-Advanced" System Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2026-10-03 09:17 +0000
                Re: Micro-Review "ATT Home-Advanced" System The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-03 11:51 +0100
                Re: Micro-Review "ATT Home-Advanced" System "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-03 13:22 +0200
                Re: Micro-Review "ATT Home-Advanced" System c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-10-03 23:28 -0400
                Re: Micro-Review "ATT Home-Advanced" System "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-04 12:57 +0200
                Re: Micro-Review "ATT Home-Advanced" System rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-04 18:55 +0000
                Re: Micro-Review "ATT Home-Advanced" System The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-05 09:32 +0100
                Re: Micro-Review "ATT Home-Advanced" System rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-05 19:31 +0000
                Re: Micro-Review "ATT Home-Advanced" System c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-10-05 02:31 -0400
                Re: Micro-Review "ATT Home-Advanced" System "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-05 14:42 +0200
                Re: Micro-Review "ATT Home-Advanced" System rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-03 20:05 +0000
                Re: Micro-Review "ATT Home-Advanced" System The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-03 08:46 +0100
                Re: Micro-Review "ATT Home-Advanced" System c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-10-03 03:59 -0400
                Re: Micro-Review "ATT Home-Advanced" System "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-03 13:37 +0200
                Re: Micro-Review "ATT Home-Advanced" System rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-03 20:07 +0000
                Re: Micro-Review "ATT Home-Advanced" System "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-04 13:00 +0200
                Re: Micro-Review "ATT Home-Advanced" System rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-04 18:23 +0000
                Re: Micro-Review "ATT Home-Advanced" System "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-03 13:20 +0200
                Re: Micro-Review "ATT Home-Advanced" System "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-03 13:36 +0200
                Re: Micro-Review "ATT Home-Advanced" System Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2026-10-02 06:33 -0700
                Re: Micro-Review "ATT Home-Advanced" System c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-10-03 01:52 -0400
                Re: Micro-Review "ATT Home-Advanced" System rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-03 20:12 +0000
                Re: Micro-Review "ATT Home-Advanced" System Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2026-10-03 17:23 -0700
                Re: Micro-Review "ATT Home-Advanced" System rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-04 03:53 +0000
                Re: Micro-Review "ATT Home-Advanced" System c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-10-04 00:04 -0400
                Re: Micro-Review "ATT Home-Advanced" System rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-04 04:19 +0000
                Re: Micro-Review "ATT Home-Advanced" System Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2026-10-04 13:46 -0700
                Re: Micro-Review "ATT Home-Advanced" System Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2026-10-05 02:52 +0000
                Re: Micro-Review "ATT Home-Advanced" System c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-10-05 03:49 -0400
                Re: Micro-Review "ATT Home-Advanced" System rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-05 19:26 +0000
                [OT] Ex-Nokia HMD feature phones (was: Re: Micro-Review "ATT Home-Advanced" System) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-07 10:22 +0100
                Re: [OT] Ex-Nokia HMD feature phones (was: Re: Micro-Review "ATT Home-Advanced" System) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-07 18:21 +0000
                Re: Micro-Review "ATT Home-Advanced" System Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-10-05 23:20 +0000
                Re: Micro-Review "ATT Home-Advanced" System rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-06 01:56 +0000
                Re: Micro-Review "ATT Home-Advanced" System c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-10-07 01:29 -0400
                Re: Micro-Review "ATT Home-Advanced" System Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-10-08 14:22 +0000
                Re: Micro-Review "ATT Home-Advanced" System rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-08 20:28 +0000
                Re: Micro-Review "ATT Home-Advanced" System c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-10-09 02:34 -0400
                Re: Micro-Review "ATT Home-Advanced" System Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2026-10-09 17:38 +0000
                Re: Micro-Review "ATT Home-Advanced" System Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-07 10:23 +0100
                Re: Micro-Review "ATT Home-Advanced" System c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-10-07 01:10 -0400
                Re: Micro-Review "ATT Home-Advanced" System Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-07 17:28 +0100
                Re: Micro-Review "ATT Home-Advanced" System c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-10-08 04:06 -0400
                Re: Micro-Review "ATT Home-Advanced" System Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-08 09:45 +0100
                Re: Micro-Review "ATT Home-Advanced" System Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-10-09 14:40 +0000
                Re: Micro-Review "ATT Home-Advanced" System c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-10-11 00:50 -0400
                Re: Micro-Review "ATT Home-Advanced" System c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-10-04 03:36 -0400
                Re: Micro-Review "ATT Home-Advanced" System c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-10-03 23:47 -0400
                Re: Micro-Review "ATT Home-Advanced" System rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-04 04:34 +0000
                Re: Micro-Review "ATT Home-Advanced" System c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-10-04 02:14 -0400
                Re: Micro-Review "ATT Home-Advanced" System rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-04 19:06 +0000
                Re: Micro-Review "ATT Home-Advanced" System Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-05 01:35 +0100
                Re: Micro-Review "ATT Home-Advanced" System The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-05 09:47 +0100
              Re: Micro-Review "ATT Home-Advanced" System Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2026-09-27 06:53 -0700
      Re: Micro-Review "ATT Home-Advanced" System Fritz Wuehler <fritz@spamexpire-202609.rodent.frell.theremailer.net> - 2026-09-26 17:05 +0200
        Re: Micro-Review "ATT Home-Advanced" System rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-26 20:00 +0000
  Re: Micro-Review "ATT Home-Advanced" System The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-24 11:43 +0100
    Re: Micro-Review "ATT Home-Advanced" System Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-09-25 03:50 +0000
      Re: Micro-Review "ATT Home-Advanced" System The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-25 09:11 +0100
    Re: Micro-Review "ATT Home-Advanced" System "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-25 12:28 +0200
    Re: Micro-Review "ATT Home-Advanced" System c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-09-26 01:54 -0400

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