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Micro-Review "ATT Home-Advanced" System c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-09-24 01:42 -0400
Re: Micro-Review "ATT Home-Advanced" System Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-09-24 10:33 +0100
Re: Micro-Review "ATT Home-Advanced" System The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-24 11:53 +0100
Re: Micro-Review "ATT Home-Advanced" System Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-09-25 03:43 +0000
Re: Micro-Review "ATT Home-Advanced" System c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-09-26 00:08 -0400
Re: Micro-Review "ATT Home-Advanced" System The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-26 09:31 +0100
Re: Micro-Review "ATT Home-Advanced" System Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-09-26 10:01 +0000
Re: Micro-Review "ATT Home-Advanced" System The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-26 12:04 +0100
Re: Micro-Review "ATT Home-Advanced" System c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-09-26 21:39 -0400
Re: Micro-Review "ATT Home-Advanced" System c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-09-26 21:32 -0400
Re: Micro-Review "ATT Home-Advanced" System The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-27 07:59 +0100
Re: Micro-Review "ATT Home-Advanced" System c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-09-27 03:16 -0400
Re: Micro-Review "ATT Home-Advanced" System The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-27 08:38 +0100
Re: Micro-Review "ATT Home-Advanced" System rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-27 19:02 +0000
Re: Micro-Review "ATT Home-Advanced" System The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-28 08:58 +0100
Re: Micro-Review "ATT Home-Advanced" System rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-28 17:33 +0000
Re: Micro-Review "ATT Home-Advanced" System c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-09-29 03:25 -0400
Re: Micro-Review "ATT Home-Advanced" System c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-10-01 01:37 -0400
Re: Micro-Review "ATT Home-Advanced" System c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-10-02 01:39 -0400
Re: Micro-Review "ATT Home-Advanced" System "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-02 11:47 +0200
Re: Micro-Review "ATT Home-Advanced" System The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-02 12:10 +0100
Re: Micro-Review "ATT Home-Advanced" System "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-02 19:57 +0200
Re: Micro-Review "ATT Home-Advanced" System rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-03 03:13 +0000
Re: Micro-Review "ATT Home-Advanced" System c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-10-03 02:07 -0400
Re: Micro-Review "ATT Home-Advanced" System The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-03 08:47 +0100
Re: Micro-Review "ATT Home-Advanced" System c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-10-03 04:04 -0400
Re: Micro-Review "ATT Home-Advanced" System rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-03 20:15 +0000
Re: Micro-Review "ATT Home-Advanced" System c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-10-03 23:53 -0400
Re: Micro-Review "ATT Home-Advanced" System rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-04 04:29 +0000
Re: Micro-Review "ATT Home-Advanced" System c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-10-04 02:03 -0400
Re: Micro-Review "ATT Home-Advanced" System rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-04 19:10 +0000
Re: Micro-Review "ATT Home-Advanced" System The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-05 09:56 +0100
Re: Micro-Review "ATT Home-Advanced" System c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-10-03 01:58 -0400
Re: Micro-Review "ATT Home-Advanced" System rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-02 19:34 +0000
Re: Micro-Review "ATT Home-Advanced" System The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-02 20:40 +0100
Re: Micro-Review "ATT Home-Advanced" System c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-10-02 21:25 -0400
Re: Micro-Review "ATT Home-Advanced" System c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-10-02 21:18 -0400
Re: Micro-Review "ATT Home-Advanced" System Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-10-03 05:00 +0000
Re: Micro-Review "ATT Home-Advanced" System c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-10-03 02:13 -0400
Re: Micro-Review "ATT Home-Advanced" System Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2026-10-03 09:17 +0000
Re: Micro-Review "ATT Home-Advanced" System The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-03 11:51 +0100
Re: Micro-Review "ATT Home-Advanced" System "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-03 13:22 +0200
Re: Micro-Review "ATT Home-Advanced" System c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-10-03 23:28 -0400
Re: Micro-Review "ATT Home-Advanced" System "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-04 12:57 +0200
Re: Micro-Review "ATT Home-Advanced" System rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-04 18:55 +0000
Re: Micro-Review "ATT Home-Advanced" System The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-05 09:32 +0100
Re: Micro-Review "ATT Home-Advanced" System rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-05 19:31 +0000
Re: Micro-Review "ATT Home-Advanced" System c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-10-05 02:31 -0400
Re: Micro-Review "ATT Home-Advanced" System "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-05 14:42 +0200
Re: Micro-Review "ATT Home-Advanced" System rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-03 20:05 +0000
Re: Micro-Review "ATT Home-Advanced" System The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-03 08:46 +0100
Re: Micro-Review "ATT Home-Advanced" System c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-10-03 03:59 -0400
Re: Micro-Review "ATT Home-Advanced" System "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-03 13:37 +0200
Re: Micro-Review "ATT Home-Advanced" System rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-03 20:07 +0000
Re: Micro-Review "ATT Home-Advanced" System "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-04 13:00 +0200
Re: Micro-Review "ATT Home-Advanced" System rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-04 18:23 +0000
Re: Micro-Review "ATT Home-Advanced" System "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-03 13:20 +0200
Re: Micro-Review "ATT Home-Advanced" System "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-03 13:36 +0200
Re: Micro-Review "ATT Home-Advanced" System Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2026-10-02 06:33 -0700
Re: Micro-Review "ATT Home-Advanced" System c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-10-03 01:52 -0400
Re: Micro-Review "ATT Home-Advanced" System rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-03 20:12 +0000
Re: Micro-Review "ATT Home-Advanced" System Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2026-10-03 17:23 -0700
Re: Micro-Review "ATT Home-Advanced" System rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-04 03:53 +0000
Re: Micro-Review "ATT Home-Advanced" System c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-10-04 00:04 -0400
Re: Micro-Review "ATT Home-Advanced" System rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-04 04:19 +0000
Re: Micro-Review "ATT Home-Advanced" System Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2026-10-04 13:46 -0700
Re: Micro-Review "ATT Home-Advanced" System Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2026-10-05 02:52 +0000
Re: Micro-Review "ATT Home-Advanced" System c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-10-05 03:49 -0400
Re: Micro-Review "ATT Home-Advanced" System rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-05 19:26 +0000
[OT] Ex-Nokia HMD feature phones (was: Re: Micro-Review "ATT Home-Advanced" System) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-07 10:22 +0100
Re: [OT] Ex-Nokia HMD feature phones (was: Re: Micro-Review "ATT Home-Advanced" System) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-07 18:21 +0000
Re: Micro-Review "ATT Home-Advanced" System Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-10-05 23:20 +0000
Re: Micro-Review "ATT Home-Advanced" System rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-06 01:56 +0000
Re: Micro-Review "ATT Home-Advanced" System c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-10-07 01:29 -0400
Re: Micro-Review "ATT Home-Advanced" System Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-10-08 14:22 +0000
Re: Micro-Review "ATT Home-Advanced" System rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-08 20:28 +0000
Re: Micro-Review "ATT Home-Advanced" System c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-10-09 02:34 -0400
Re: Micro-Review "ATT Home-Advanced" System Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2026-10-09 17:38 +0000
Re: Micro-Review "ATT Home-Advanced" System Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-07 10:23 +0100
Re: Micro-Review "ATT Home-Advanced" System c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-10-07 01:10 -0400
Re: Micro-Review "ATT Home-Advanced" System Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-07 17:28 +0100
Re: Micro-Review "ATT Home-Advanced" System c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-10-08 04:06 -0400
Re: Micro-Review "ATT Home-Advanced" System Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-08 09:45 +0100
Re: Micro-Review "ATT Home-Advanced" System Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-10-09 14:40 +0000
Re: Micro-Review "ATT Home-Advanced" System c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-10-11 00:50 -0400
Re: Micro-Review "ATT Home-Advanced" System c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-10-04 03:36 -0400
Re: Micro-Review "ATT Home-Advanced" System c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-10-03 23:47 -0400
Re: Micro-Review "ATT Home-Advanced" System rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-04 04:34 +0000
Re: Micro-Review "ATT Home-Advanced" System c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-10-04 02:14 -0400
Re: Micro-Review "ATT Home-Advanced" System rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-04 19:06 +0000
Re: Micro-Review "ATT Home-Advanced" System Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-05 01:35 +0100
Re: Micro-Review "ATT Home-Advanced" System The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-05 09:47 +0100
Re: Micro-Review "ATT Home-Advanced" System Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2026-09-27 06:53 -0700
Re: Micro-Review "ATT Home-Advanced" System Fritz Wuehler <fritz@spamexpire-202609.rodent.frell.theremailer.net> - 2026-09-26 17:05 +0200
Re: Micro-Review "ATT Home-Advanced" System rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-26 20:00 +0000
Re: Micro-Review "ATT Home-Advanced" System The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-24 11:43 +0100
Re: Micro-Review "ATT Home-Advanced" System Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-09-25 03:50 +0000
Re: Micro-Review "ATT Home-Advanced" System The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-25 09:11 +0100
Re: Micro-Review "ATT Home-Advanced" System "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-25 12:28 +0200
Re: Micro-Review "ATT Home-Advanced" System c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-09-26 01:54 -0400
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-10-03 11:51 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <119qmmu$2u99c$3@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #92743 |
On 03/10/2026 10:17, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote: > Le 03-10-2026, Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> a écrit : >> On 2026-10-03, c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote: >> >>> https://www.foxnews.com/tech/android-malware-steal-pin-bank-logins >> >> They missed my favourite preventive step: Don't use a smartphone. > > It's not always an option. In China, if you want to buy anything, you > need a smartphone. In France, you can avoid a smartphone, but you will > avoid a lot of things which require a smartphone. And it looks like it > will become more and more mandatory. > Digital ID via a back door -- Any fool can believe in principles - and most of them do!
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| From | "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-10-03 13:22 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <nic6qsFk2g2U2@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #92743 |
On 2026-10-03 11:17, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:
> Le 03-10-2026, Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> a écrit :
>> On 2026-10-03, c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote:
>>
>>> https://www.foxnews.com/tech/android-malware-steal-pin-bank-logins
>>
>> They missed my favourite preventive step: Don't use a smartphone.
>
> It's not always an option. In China, if you want to buy anything, you
> need a smartphone. In France, you can avoid a smartphone, but you will
> avoid a lot of things which require a smartphone. And it looks like it
> will become more and more mandatory.
>
Certainly. Can hardly use a bank without one. Many things need getting a
code in the smartphone, like for instance the house alarm.
--
Cheers,
Carlos E.R.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺.
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| From | c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> |
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| Date | 2026-10-03 23:28 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <wrKcnQ2TqplaWlz3nZ2dnZfqn_ednZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #92753 |
On 10/3/26 07:22, Carlos E. R. wrote: > On 2026-10-03 11:17, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote: >> Le 03-10-2026, Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> a écrit : >>> On 2026-10-03, c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote: >>> >>>> https://www.foxnews.com/tech/android-malware-steal-pin-bank-logins >>> >>> They missed my favourite preventive step: Don't use a smartphone. >> >> It's not always an option. In China, if you want to buy anything, you >> need a smartphone. In France, you can avoid a smartphone, but you will >> avoid a lot of things which require a smartphone. And it looks like it >> will become more and more mandatory. >> > > Certainly. Can hardly use a bank without one. Many things need getting a > code in the smartphone, like for instance the house alarm. Don't install that kind of house alarm. Also, all phones should have a positive OFF switch - cuts them off 100% - no sneaky spying or pinging or secret mic activation.
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| From | "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-10-04 12:57 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <niepo7F1topU3@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #92789 |
On 2026-10-04 05:28, c186282 wrote:
> On 10/3/26 07:22, Carlos E. R. wrote:
>> On 2026-10-03 11:17, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:
>>> Le 03-10-2026, Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> a écrit :
>>>> On 2026-10-03, c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> https://www.foxnews.com/tech/android-malware-steal-pin-bank-logins
>>>>
>>>> They missed my favourite preventive step: Don't use a smartphone.
>>>
>>> It's not always an option. In China, if you want to buy anything, you
>>> need a smartphone. In France, you can avoid a smartphone, but you will
>>> avoid a lot of things which require a smartphone. And it looks like it
>>> will become more and more mandatory.
>>>
>>
>> Certainly. Can hardly use a bank without one. Many things need getting
>> a code in the smartphone, like for instance the house alarm.
>
> Don't install that kind of house alarm.
All use similar systems, or are crap.
Here an alarm system that just sounds is basically forbidden. They must
actively warn the user or the police, via phone or something, and must
disable the sound automatically. Can not hound the siren all night till
someone comes.
Must be remotely controlled.
>
> Also, all phones should have a positive OFF
> switch - cuts them off 100% - no sneaky
> spying or pinging or secret mic activation.
I'm certain that my phone when off is actually off.
--
Cheers,
Carlos E.R.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺.
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2026-10-04 18:55 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <niflpdFoo9pU22@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #92822 |
On Sun, 4 Oct 2026 12:57:11 +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote: > Here an alarm system that just sounds is basically forbidden. They must > actively warn the user or the police, via phone or something, and must > disable the sound automatically. Can not hound the siren all night till > someone comes. I volunteer to walk dogs at animal services. There is an outdoor kennel behind the building, surrounded by a 8' high chain link fence with 6' high plywood panels concealing the interior. There is a 'Protected by Interstate Security' sign on the plywood that amuses me. I've only seen the top of the resident's head as he tries to jump the fence so all I know is he's big, black, and does not have a pleasant disposition. I figure Interstate has nothing on the hound of the Baskervilles.
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-10-05 09:32 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <119vnaj$mtek$14@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #92867 |
On 04/10/2026 19:55, rbowman wrote: > On Sun, 4 Oct 2026 12:57:11 +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote: > >> Here an alarm system that just sounds is basically forbidden. They must >> actively warn the user or the police, via phone or something, and must >> disable the sound automatically. Can not hound the siren all night till >> someone comes. > > I volunteer to walk dogs at animal services. There is an outdoor kennel > behind the building, surrounded by a 8' high chain link fence with 6' high > plywood panels concealing the interior. There is a 'Protected by > Interstate Security' sign on the plywood that amuses me. I've only seen > the top of the resident's head as he tries to jump the fence so all I know > is he's big, black, and does not have a pleasant disposition. I figure > Interstate has nothing on the hound of the Baskervilles. One advantage of the K9, is that the be-bearded 'religion of piss' people consider him utterly 'haram' and will run a mile to avoid contact. And you can't prosecute a dog for 'racism' -- “Progress is precisely that which rules and regulations did not foresee,” – Ludwig von Mises
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2026-10-05 19:31 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <niic7nFoo9pU41@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #92920 |
On Mon, 5 Oct 2026 09:32:19 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > On 04/10/2026 19:55, rbowman wrote: >> On Sun, 4 Oct 2026 12:57:11 +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote: >> >>> Here an alarm system that just sounds is basically forbidden. They >>> must actively warn the user or the police, via phone or something, and >>> must disable the sound automatically. Can not hound the siren all >>> night till someone comes. >> >> I volunteer to walk dogs at animal services. There is an outdoor kennel >> behind the building, surrounded by a 8' high chain link fence with 6' >> high plywood panels concealing the interior. There is a 'Protected by >> Interstate Security' sign on the plywood that amuses me. I've only seen >> the top of the resident's head as he tries to jump the fence so all I >> know is he's big, black, and does not have a pleasant disposition. I >> figure Interstate has nothing on the hound of the Baskervilles. > > One advantage of the K9, is that the be-bearded 'religion of piss' > people consider him utterly 'haram' and will run a mile to avoid > contact. > > And you can't prosecute a dog for 'racism' That would be a wise choice in this case. Most of the dogs I walk like to sniff around the joints in the plywood to wind him up but a couple prefer to pass by very rapidly. I don't know his status but he's not on the 'adoptable' web page.
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| From | c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> |
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| Date | 2026-10-05 02:31 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <QOKdnfiWqNjW2V73nZ2dnZfqn_qdnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #92822 |
On 10/4/26 06:57, Carlos E. R. wrote: > On 2026-10-04 05:28, c186282 wrote: >> On 10/3/26 07:22, Carlos E. R. wrote: >>> On 2026-10-03 11:17, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote: >>>> Le 03-10-2026, Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> a écrit : >>>>> On 2026-10-03, c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> https://www.foxnews.com/tech/android-malware-steal-pin-bank-logins >>>>> >>>>> They missed my favourite preventive step: Don't use a smartphone. >>>> >>>> It's not always an option. In China, if you want to buy anything, you >>>> need a smartphone. In France, you can avoid a smartphone, but you will >>>> avoid a lot of things which require a smartphone. And it looks like it >>>> will become more and more mandatory. >>>> >>> >>> Certainly. Can hardly use a bank without one. Many things need >>> getting a code in the smartphone, like for instance the house alarm. >> >> Don't install that kind of house alarm. > > All use similar systems, or are crap. Build your own ... if you have the electronics skills. A damned Arduino Uno with a relay shield or so can make a really good alarm system with very little code. A Pi-3 with a couple of add-on boards, even better AND can be networked. > Here an alarm system that just sounds is basically forbidden. They must > actively warn the user or the police, via phone or something, and must > disable the sound automatically. Can not hound the siren all night till > someone comes. EZ code ... > Must be remotely controlled. Is that a Big Brother LAW, or just something kinda useful ? If a LAW - DUMP yer current 'leadership' immediately, they are NOT on your side, NOT sane. Oh wait, UK ? No sanity EVER there :-) >> Also, all phones should have a positive OFF >> switch - cuts them off 100% - no sneaky >> spying or pinging or secret mic activation. > > I'm certain that my phone when off is actually off. Don't be so SURE. Most cells are never REALLY off ... the GPS unit keeps recording, 'pings' are still done. The only fix is to pull the battery (which I've done on occasion). Easier with flips than 'smart'phones. There's always the aluminum/Mu foil BAG trick too. I'm proposing a very solid OFF switch, disconnects everything but the charger circuit - maybe EVEN the charger in some cases. "NO" should mean "NO". https://www.amazon.com/MuMETAL-Magnetic-Shielding-Thick-Sheet/dp/B017ABFDP8/ref=sr_1_4?dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.zW8rlLjLlXxEAhb63SGxpwNfn6R2pIq-eopWwPNBmtmdGK9x2LmCW2HVKC1jd5TqA8-yrNlPg-q--z0Y6adUvjwjtlXjOPWzFa4ZRdNWAAj6tZgMUVam61qTN9Rmsf5Vfhxbo3_fD4gBZo0ZP_vQdSmz4clOTtj0vPPO8dH-4n1_aSIsPzsg6EQWLX9tofMJ4Sjq4puLhmgGxL3apPWASdM6Z-zXwWsumehKvPBHKT0.4AOngmg8a9JnDEdZCyGJS7CRrxlQ-PhQmtuaezzRAfg&dib_tag=se&keywords=mu-metal&qid=1791179946&sr=8-4 https://www.amazon.com/TitanRF-Faraday-Tape-High-Shielding-Conductive/dp/B07DVSTP9V/ref=sr_1_6?dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.zW8rlLjLlXxEAhb63SGxpwNfn6R2pIq-eopWwPNBmtmdGK9x2LmCW2HVKC1jd5TqA8-yrNlPg-q--z0Y6adUvjwjtlXjOPWzFa4ZRdNWAAj6tZgMUVam61qTN9Rmsf5Vfhxbo3_fD4gBZo0ZP_vQdSmz4clOTtj0vPPO8dH-4n1_aSIsPzsg6EQWLX9tofMJ4Sjq4puLhmgGxL3apPWASdM6Z-zXwWsumehKvPBHKT0.4AOngmg8a9JnDEdZCyGJS7CRrxlQ-PhQmtuaezzRAfg&dib_tag=se&keywords=mu-metal&qid=1791179946&sr=8-6 We've allowed a Big Brother world "for convenience". Past time to UN-do a lot of that. All yer info WILL be used for evil someday - by yer main people OR by the people who steal their data.
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| From | "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2026-10-05 14:42 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <nihk8tFfekdU2@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #92896 |
On 2026-10-05 08:31, c186282 wrote:
> On 10/4/26 06:57, Carlos E. R. wrote:
>> On 2026-10-04 05:28, c186282 wrote:
>>> On 10/3/26 07:22, Carlos E. R. wrote:
>>>> On 2026-10-03 11:17, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:
>>>>> Le 03-10-2026, Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> a écrit :
>>>>>> On 2026-10-03, c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://www.foxnews.com/tech/android-malware-steal-pin-bank-logins
>>>>>>
>>>>>> They missed my favourite preventive step: Don't use a smartphone.
>>>>>
>>>>> It's not always an option. In China, if you want to buy anything, you
>>>>> need a smartphone. In France, you can avoid a smartphone, but you will
>>>>> avoid a lot of things which require a smartphone. And it looks like it
>>>>> will become more and more mandatory.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Certainly. Can hardly use a bank without one. Many things need
>>>> getting a code in the smartphone, like for instance the house alarm.
>>>
>>> Don't install that kind of house alarm.
>>
>> All use similar systems, or are crap.
>
> Build your own ... if you have the
> electronics skills.
I have, but the law states that an alarm system must be controlled 24/7
by some organization that can forward alarms to the police.
> A damned Arduino
> Uno with a relay shield or so can
> make a really good alarm system with
> very little code. A Pi-3 with a couple
> of add-on boards, even better AND can
> be networked.
>
>> Here an alarm system that just sounds is basically forbidden. They
>> must actively warn the user or the police, via phone or something, and
>> must disable the sound automatically. Can not hound the siren all
>> night till someone comes.
>
> EZ code ...
>
>> Must be remotely controlled.
>
> Is that a Big Brother LAW, or just something
> kinda useful ? If a LAW - DUMP yer current
> 'leadership' immediately, they are NOT on
> your side, NOT sane.
It is actually useful.
I have suffered some shop alarm hounding in the deep of the night, non
stop. The police came, had a hard time shutting it off. Happened more
than once to the same shop.
Might be an EU regulation about it.
>
> Oh wait, UK ? No sanity EVER there :-)
>
>>> Also, all phones should have a positive OFF
>>> switch - cuts them off 100% - no sneaky
>>> spying or pinging or secret mic activation.
>>
>> I'm certain that my phone when off is actually off.
>
> Don't be so SURE.
>
I am.
> Most cells are never REALLY off ... the GPS unit
> keeps recording, 'pings' are still done. The
> only fix is to pull the battery (which I've done
> on occasion). Easier with flips than 'smart'phones.
> There's always the aluminum/Mu foil BAG trick too.
>
Nope. The GPS system uses significant battery. There are *some* phones
that keep a tracking system while off, but it is based on low power
bluetooth. It is a well known system, and the phone docs reports this as
a feature. *NOT hidden*.
Drop the aluminium foil hat.
> I'm proposing a very solid OFF switch, disconnects
> everything but the charger circuit - maybe EVEN
> the charger in some cases. "NO" should mean "NO".
>
> https://www.amazon.com/MuMETAL-Magnetic-Shielding-Thick-Sheet/dp/
> B017ABFDP8/
Keep Amazon links short.
>
> https://www.amazon.com/TitanRF-Faraday-Tape-High-Shielding-Conductive/
> dp/B07DVSTP9V/
>
> We've allowed a Big Brother world "for convenience".
> Past time to UN-do a lot of that. All yer info WILL
> be used for evil someday - by yer main people OR by
> the people who steal their data.
>
--
Cheers,
Carlos E.R.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺.
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2026-10-03 20:05 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <nid5flFoo9pU6@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #92743 |
On 03 Oct 2026 09:17:46 GMT, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote: > Le 03-10-2026, Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> a écrit : >> On 2026-10-03, c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote: >> >>> https://www.foxnews.com/tech/android-malware-steal-pin-bank-logins >> >> They missed my favourite preventive step: Don't use a smartphone. > > It's not always an option. In China, if you want to buy anything, you > need a smartphone. In France, you can avoid a smartphone, but you will > avoid a lot of things which require a smartphone. And it looks like it > will become more and more mandatory. The last time I renewed my vehicle registration you signed in at a kiosk and you were notified when a clerk was ready by a text message to your phone. There was a provision for people without a phone but I don't know how well it worked. I hadn't went in physically for years but when they sent the new plates they failed to include the stickers with the expiration month and date.
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-10-03 08:46 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <119qbt9$2qdqt$4@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #92695 |
On 03/10/2026 02:18, c186282 wrote: > I don't LIKE direct withdrawal, one bad actor gets > the correct numbers/auth and they can drain you > dry in moments. USA has legal protections for > credit cards, but not direct withdrawals. > The contract cannot easily be changed, either to whom it is paid or the amount. And mostly you can just go online and cancel things > Also often hard to CUT OFF companies once they > get direct access. I did that once with CompuServe, > had to go to a bank and and have 'em explicitly > block the corp. CS shreiked and shreiked. Well I can do that all online if I want. -- "Corbyn talks about equality, justice, opportunity, health care, peace, community, compassion, investment, security, housing...." "What kind of person is not interested in those things?" "Jeremy Corbyn?"
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| From | c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> |
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| Date | 2026-10-03 03:59 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <LsCdnUuyy_VSKF33nZ2dnZfqnPGdnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #92724 |
On 10/3/26 03:46, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > On 03/10/2026 02:18, c186282 wrote: >> I don't LIKE direct withdrawal, one bad actor gets >> the correct numbers/auth and they can drain you >> dry in moments. USA has legal protections for >> credit cards, but not direct withdrawals. >> > > The contract cannot easily be changed, either to whom it is paid or > the amount. > And mostly you can just go online and cancel things Found myself in a situation once where I could NOT go online to cancel things ... wasn't even a phone number for contacting a human. This is a continuing problem according to many news reports. Once they've GOT you they scheme to KEEP you paying forever. >> Also often hard to CUT OFF companies once they >> get direct access. I did that once with CompuServe, >> had to go to a bank and and have 'em explicitly >> block the corp. CS shreiked and shreiked. > > Well I can do that all online if I want. Sure ???
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| From | "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-10-03 13:37 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <nic7noFk2g3U2@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #92726 |
On 2026-10-03 09:59, c186282 wrote:
> On 10/3/26 03:46, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>> On 03/10/2026 02:18, c186282 wrote:
>>> I don't LIKE direct withdrawal, one bad actor gets
>>> the correct numbers/auth and they can drain you
>>> dry in moments. USA has legal protections for
>>> credit cards, but not direct withdrawals.
>>>
>>
>> The contract cannot easily be changed, either to whom it is paid or
>> the amount.
>> And mostly you can just go online and cancel things
>
> Found myself in a situation once where I could NOT
> go online to cancel things ... wasn't even a phone
> number for contacting a human. This is a continuing
> problem according to many news reports. Once they've
> GOT you they scheme to KEEP you paying forever.
>
>>> Also often hard to CUT OFF companies once they
>>> get direct access. I did that once with CompuServe,
>>> had to go to a bank and and have 'em explicitly
>>> block the corp. CS shreiked and shreiked.
>>
>> Well I can do that all online if I want.
>
> Sure ???
>
I did it a year ago.
--
Cheers,
Carlos E.R.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺.
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2026-10-03 20:07 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <nid5kvFoo9pU7@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #92724 |
On Sat, 3 Oct 2026 08:46:49 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > On 03/10/2026 02:18, c186282 wrote: >> I don't LIKE direct withdrawal, one bad actor gets >> the correct numbers/auth and they can drain you dry in moments. USA >> has legal protections for credit cards, but not direct withdrawals. >> >> > The contract cannot easily be changed, either to whom it is paid or > the amount. > And mostly you can just go online and cancel things I have a AT&T long distance service I haven't used in years. Trying to cancel it is so difficult I've resigned myself to paying the $14 / month. One of these days when I'm feeling exceeding patient.
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| From | "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-10-04 13:00 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <niepurF1topU4@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #92777 |
On 2026-10-03 22:07, rbowman wrote:
> On Sat, 3 Oct 2026 08:46:49 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>
>> On 03/10/2026 02:18, c186282 wrote:
>>> I don't LIKE direct withdrawal, one bad actor gets
>>> the correct numbers/auth and they can drain you dry in moments. USA
>>> has legal protections for credit cards, but not direct withdrawals.
>>>
>>>
>> The contract cannot easily be changed, either to whom it is paid or
>> the amount.
>> And mostly you can just go online and cancel things
>
> I have a AT&T long distance service I haven't used in years. Trying to
> cancel it is so difficult I've resigned myself to paying the $14 / month.
> One of these days when I'm feeling exceeding patient.
I'm fortunate that my telco has actual shops in the mall and the
employees can actually solve my problems. Often they do something in a
computer and has to be approved at headquarters, but it works.
They also have a webforum, where I can request things in writing. It is
slow, but reliable.
--
Cheers,
Carlos E.R.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺.
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2026-10-04 18:23 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <nifjtjFoo9pU21@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #92824 |
On Sun, 4 Oct 2026 13:00:43 +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote: > I'm fortunate that my telco has actual shops in the mall and the > employees can actually solve my problems. Often they do something in a > computer and has to be approved at headquarters, but it works. Verizon has several locations including the mall. I was pleasantly surprised when I went in to cancel my service that it took about 5 minutes with no attempt to sell me something else. I'd had no problems with Verizon but I'm far enough from a tower that 5G is never going to come close to StarLink's 100 Mbps cheap plan.
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| From | "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-10-03 13:20 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <nic6nbFk2g2U1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #92695 |
On 2026-10-03 03:18, c186282 wrote:
> On 10/2/26 05:47, Carlos E. R. wrote:
>> On 2026-10-02 07:39, c186282 wrote:
>>> Followup :
>>>
>>> After finally barely managing to do an e-pay
>>> on the new acct, got a PAPER bill yesterday.
>>> I did NOT turn off paper billing ... good
>>> thing, the paper bills have LOTS of useful
>>> numbers and shit you don't see in e-bills.
>>>
>>> WILL send in a check for slightly over the
>>> amount on the paper bill. This should get
>>> me at least a month's credit balance.
>>>
>>> WHY ? Because I'm getting OLD and might get
>>> stuck in a hospital bed for a month. Do NOT
>>> want all my comms to go down in the interim.
>>> Do the same thing with the electric and
>>> water bills. Hey, if I had no legs or
>>> whatever, WHO is gonna wheel me into the
>>> "local" offices to pay the back-bills ???
>>
>> Over here, the utilities charge via automatic draft from the bank.
>> They will not accept anything else.
>
> SOME entities in the USA do that, others do not.
>
> I don't LIKE direct withdrawal, one bad actor gets
> the correct numbers/auth and they can drain you
> dry in moments. USA has legal protections for
> credit cards, but not direct withdrawals.
Backward country :-P
>
> Also often hard to CUT OFF companies once they
> get direct access. I did that once with CompuServe,
> had to go to a bank and and have 'em explicitly
> block the corp. CS shreiked and shreiked.
I can block a corp just with a click on the ban web page. Ok, I probably
have to confirm a code in the phone.
>
>> So not a problem if I'm out for a month or two.
>
> Except for that little punk in Romania on Vlad's
> perk program ......
>
> Oh, today :
> https://www.foxnews.com/tech/android-malware-steal-pin-bank-logins
I like to think I'm not likely to fall prey to such software... but
never say no.
--
Cheers,
Carlos E.R.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺.
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| From | "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-10-03 13:36 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <nic7liFk2g3U1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #92695 |
On 2026-10-03 03:18, c186282 wrote:
> I don't LIKE direct withdrawal, one bad actor gets
> the correct numbers/auth and they can drain you
> dry in moments. USA has legal protections for
> credit cards, but not direct withdrawals.
Having the numbers is not enough, in theory at least they need a paper
with a signed authorization. Depends on the bank, it is easier to manage
the auth or not.
There is a period after an invoice has been paid while we can still
cancel it at the bank.
--
Cheers,
Carlos E.R.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺.
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| From | Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> |
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| Date | 2026-10-02 06:33 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <119obrj$24uqg$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #92621 |
{Followup-To alt.unix.geeks]
On 10/1/2026 22:39, c186282 wrote:
> [...]
> Remaining : Spend an hour+ with "customer
> service" getting the e-mail address fixed.
> NOT my favorite thing. Also cell service
> at my place is BAD - and they're not gonna
> add any new antennas anytime soon. The
> new landline-replacement has ONE bar, but
> (almost) consistently one bar where I've
> placed it. Every so often the connection
> DROPS ... blinking lights ... for a minute.
>
> Will NOT use that line to call customer
> service because that requires a certain
> LONG-term connection or you have to try
> all over again.
I recently switched from AT&T Wireless to T-Mobile to get on the same
account as my wife. Mainly to get her moved from the super-deluxe
$113/month plan to the $80/month for two senior discount plan. But it
turns out that TMOs signal inside my house is much weaker than ATTs. And
at my business office on the other side of town, it is even weaker: I
have to go outside to make a call. But the latter building has an
excuse: It has aluminum sheathed outside walls. I will have to ask them
why WiFi calling does not alleviate the problem.
> Anyway, alas, wireless IS replacing 'wired'.
> the providers HATE wired ... won't fix it,
> excuses excuses. Wireless is CHEAP, physical
> wires and the techs, EXPENSIVE.
Obviously, that is why. One could hope that competition might
counterbalance that, but it does not seem to be working.
> Micro-note : after moving my new faux-landline
> I also moved my wireless internet thingie about
> two feet. A useful PI in the back of the house
> suddenly could not get a good signal. At some
> point I'd mentioned moving the PI about four
> inches to improve signal, NOW moved it about
> four inches BACK ... double the signal. These
> are 2.4 ... 5.x is even worse with signal
> "shadows".
With my RF hat on, this is obviously multipath interference, either from
reflections or (less likely) from overlapping coverage from two access
points. The best solution is to use a "Distributed Antenna System": Two
or more access points that coordinate with each other over a wired
network. Then you can place a subsidiary access point much closer to the
outlying spot. I have such a system at my house in order to get a good
signal in the garage that my wife had considered using for an art
studio. Note that if the wired path goes outdoors, you should use a
cable labeled as "Outdoor direct burial gel-filled UV-resistant cat 6
cable", such as this:
https://www.amazon.com/GearIT-Gold-Plated-Connectors-Resistant-Waterproof/dp/B08P2SW48K/ref=sr_1_1_sspa
> So, wireless net ... pretty consistent two
> bars now. Wireless phone, pretty consistent
> one bar. BARELY usable, but usable. Seems
> the best we can expect these days. Oh well,
> 'socialists' would screw it up even more ...
You can probably get a much better connection by giving this "analog
terminal adapter" a good external directional antenna on a roof or a
pole with a less obstructed path and then putting the adapter in a NEMA
box next to it. In an area like your, there really should be RF tech
firms that can do this kind of work competently. But the state's PUC
should also have a regulation that make the "Incumbent Local Exchange
Carrier" (ILEC, for short) obligated to provide a reliably working
solution for voice calls when they stop providing the 48V powered POTS
lines.
> Hmmmmmm .... how soon before 300-baud dial-up
> comes back into fashion because nothing else
> is remotely reliable ??????
>
> Remember 300 baud ? You could read the feed
> AS it came in - THAT slow :-) DO remember
> even slower rates because I'm old. 110 was
> so much fun, but *50* was also a standard.
>
> Today, SPOILED BRATS.
>
> Project, IF limited to 50 baud, how DO you
> format/encode yer vital data for efficient
> transmission ? What's "vital" and cannot
> be 'derived' and what CAN be derived later ?
> Just thinking "post-ww3" ... a FEW nukes
> and EMPs and major cyber-attacks. 50 baud
> can be done over old AM radio connections,
> devices you can make from the old manuals
> and a few crap surplus parts.
>
> Hey, 50-110-300, those are what the old
> 'super-computers', the big IBM/DEC/etc
> computers, used to send major biz figures
> across the world back In The Day. It
> worked. Sorry, no PDFs or JPGs or
> anything remotely like those.
No, those were 1200 or 2400 bps synchronous lines.
I was there in the 1970s.
--
Lars Poulsen - an old geek in Santa Barbara, California
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| From | c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> |
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| Date | 2026-10-03 01:52 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <cR-dna9thaWhBV33nZ2dnZfqn_SdnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #92656 |
On 10/2/26 09:33, Lars Poulsen wrote:
> {Followup-To alt.unix.geeks]
>
> On 10/1/2026 22:39, c186282 wrote:
>> [...]
>> Remaining : Spend an hour+ with "customer
>> service" getting the e-mail address fixed.
>> NOT my favorite thing. Also cell service
>> at my place is BAD - and they're not gonna
>> add any new antennas anytime soon. The
>> new landline-replacement has ONE bar, but
>> (almost) consistently one bar where I've
>> placed it. Every so often the connection
>> DROPS ... blinking lights ... for a minute.
>>
>> Will NOT use that line to call customer
>> service because that requires a certain
>> LONG-term connection or you have to try
>> all over again.
>
> I recently switched from AT&T Wireless to T-Mobile to get on the same
> account as my wife. Mainly to get her moved from the super-deluxe $113/
> month plan to the $80/month for two senior discount plan. But it turns
> out that TMOs signal inside my house is much weaker than ATTs. And at my
> business office on the other side of town, it is even weaker: I have to
> go outside to make a call. But the latter building has an excuse: It has
> aluminum sheathed outside walls. I will have to ask them why WiFi
> calling does not alleviate the problem.-m
T-Mobile has a slightly better rep than ATT/Verizon.
However, really, they're ALL using the exact same
antennas. Bad ATT signal, bad tmobile/verizon signal.
Still looking to buy an actual 'smartphone', just
in case. Expect it to sit on a shelf 99.9% of the
time. One of the medium-priced Samsung 'A' series,
A-37 is well reviewed, look to be what I need. THINK
I'm gonna get it thru "Consumer Cellular" - alt provider -
good prices and ASSUME you're older so you won't be
using megatons of data.
>> Anyway, alas, wireless IS replacing 'wired'.
>> the providers HATE wired ... won't fix it,
>> excuses excuses. Wireless is CHEAP, physical
>> wires and the techs, EXPENSIVE.
>
> Obviously, that is why. One could hope that competition might
> counterbalance that, but it does not seem to be working.
Where I am ... no, NOBODY is gonna pick up the old
wired connections. ATT would not even fix my old
wired ... didn't ring anymore. HAD to go to the
wireless half-assed solution. That's that. Gonna
have to buy a bigger UPS to keep it going even if
the power goes down for awhile.
On the plus, price IS cheaper than the old wired
connection - can AFFORD a UPS and such.
NOW gotta brave the 'customer service' mess to
make sure the old wired acct is dead, AND fix
the e-mail address the Hindi tech got wrong.
I will not really BLAME him ... letters DO
sound different to different cultures ... it's
like Cantonese speakers and the letter "L",
"L" and "R" really sound the same to them.
DID get all the OTHER shit set like I want
for this 'phone' though.
>> Micro-note : after moving my new faux-landline
>> I also moved my wireless internet thingie about
>> two feet. A useful PI in the back of the house
>> suddenly could not get a good signal. At some
>> point I'd mentioned moving the PI about four
>> inches to improve signal, NOW moved it about
>> four inches BACK ... double the signal. These
>> are 2.4 ... 5.x is even worse with signal
>> "shadows".
>
> With my RF hat on, this is obviously multipath interference, either from
> reflections or (less likely) from overlapping coverage from two access
> points. The best solution is to use a "Distributed Antenna System": Two
> or more access points that coordinate with each other over a wired
> network. Then you can place a subsidiary access point much closer to the
> outlying spot. I have such a system at my house in order to get a good
> signal in the garage that my wife had considered using for an art
> studio. Note that if the wired path goes outdoors, you should use a
> cable labeled as "Outdoor direct burial gel-filled UV-resistant cat 6
> cable", such as this:
> https://www.amazon.com/GearIT-Gold-Plated-Connectors-Resistant-
> Waterproof/dp/B08P2SW48K/ref=sr_1_1_sspa
The higher the freq the worse ... acts more and
more like "light". My more distant devices are
all set to use 2.4 ... better range/fidelity.
But, even then, a few inches can make a difference.
>> So, wireless net ... pretty consistent two
>> bars now. Wireless phone, pretty consistent
>> one bar. BARELY usable, but usable. Seems
>> the best we can expect these days. Oh well,
>> 'socialists' would screw it up even more ...
>
> You can probably get a much better connection by giving this "analog
> terminal adapter" a good external directional antenna on a roof or a
> pole with a less obstructed path and then putting the adapter in a NEMA
> box next to it. In an area like your, there really should be RF tech
> firms that can do this kind of work competently. But the state's PUC
> should also have a regulation that make the "Incumbent Local Exchange
> Carrier" (ILEC, for short) obligated to provide a reliably working
> solution for voice calls when they stop providing the 48V powered POTS
> lines.
Umm ... nothing on 'roofs' here. On shelves.
Way too old for ladders now anyhow, I'd fall
to my doom.
Main fix for out-buildings, a cheap REPEATER/
EXTENDER. Not too hard to set up. Works.
>> Hmmmmmm .... how soon before 300-baud dial-up
>> comes back into fashion because nothing else
>> is remotely reliable ??????
>>
>> Remember 300 baud ? You could read the feed
>> AS it came in - THAT slow :-) DO remember
>> even slower rates because I'm old. 110 was
>> so much fun, but *50* was also a standard.
>>
>> Today, SPOILED BRATS.
>>
>> Project, IF limited to 50 baud, how DO you
>> format/encode yer vital data for efficient
>> transmission ? What's "vital" and cannot
>> be 'derived' and what CAN be derived later ?
>> Just thinking "post-ww3" ... a FEW nukes
>> and EMPs and major cyber-attacks. 50 baud
>> can be done over old AM radio connections,
>> devices you can make from the old manuals
>> and a few crap surplus parts.
>>
>> Hey, 50-110-300, those are what the old
>> 'super-computers', the big IBM/DEC/etc
>> computers, used to send major biz figures
>> across the world back In The Day. It
>> worked. Sorry, no PDFs or JPGs or
>> anything remotely like those.
>
> No, those were 1200 or 2400 bps synchronous lines.
> I was there in the 1970s.
I did have some experience with 110 baud devices
in the pre-PC days. Hey, they seemed like magic
back then ! :-)
Loads of experience with 300 baud connections.
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