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Re: Ancient History

From rbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.misc
Subject Re: Ancient History
Date 2026-08-27 20:03 +0000
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On Thu, 27 Aug 2026 03:24:55 -0400, c186282 wrote:

>    JAVA ???!!!

I've made many mistakes in my life. I've never warmed up to C++. I used 
Borland's with OWL and preferred it to MFC but about the time Java was 
gaining steam, Borland had lost. Create GUIs with something less sucky and 
with cross-platform potential? Why not.

Java applets were nice too, but the browsers slammed the door on that line 
of development. Meanwhile Eich was brewing up ECMAScript and some marketer 
decided Java was real cool leading to decades of confusion. At least Eich 
didn't use Scheme. 

I probably still have the DVDs someplace but Microsoft's Visual J++ was 
quite nice but that turned into a fight with the junkyard dogs. It was 
reborn, sort of, in C#, which I like.

Meanwhile Java became well beyond clinically obese and cursed anything 
built with it like Eclipse to turtle like speeds. It's telling that IBM's 
skunk works Java project turned out better tools than Sun.

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Ancient History rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-25 04:41 +0000
  Re: Ancient History c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-25 03:15 -0400
    Re: Ancient History John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-08-25 08:19 -0700
      Re: Ancient History The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-25 19:57 +0100
        Re: Ancient History c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-26 04:25 -0400
          Re: Ancient History The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-26 09:33 +0100
          Re: Ancient History rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-26 18:20 +0000
            Re: Ancient History The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-26 21:27 +0100
              Re: Ancient History rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-27 01:13 +0000
                Re: Ancient History c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-27 03:24 -0400
                Re: Ancient History rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-27 20:03 +0000
                Re: Ancient History c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-27 23:47 -0400
                Re: Ancient History rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-28 06:54 +0000
                Re: Ancient History The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-28 12:11 +0100
  Re: Ancient History "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-25 11:41 +0200
    Re: Ancient History Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-25 11:53 +0100
      Re: Ancient History The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-25 12:54 +0100
        Re: Ancient History rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-25 19:25 +0000
      Re: Ancient History "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-25 14:23 +0200
        Re: Ancient History c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-26 03:28 -0400
          Re: Ancient History The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-26 09:12 +0100
            Re: Ancient History rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-26 18:26 +0000
              Re: Ancient History c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-27 03:56 -0400
                Re: Ancient History The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-27 12:00 +0100
                Re: Ancient History rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-27 20:25 +0000
                Re: Ancient History Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-08-27 21:48 +0000
                Re: Ancient History c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-28 00:26 -0400
                Re: Ancient History rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-28 06:59 +0000
                Re: Ancient History The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-28 12:05 +0100
                Re: Ancient History The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-28 12:03 +0100
                Re: Ancient History c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-28 00:06 -0400
                Re: Ancient History The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-28 12:08 +0100
                Re: Ancient History The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-28 12:03 +0100
                Re: Ancient History Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2026-08-28 12:07 -0400
          Re: Ancient History rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-26 18:23 +0000
            Re: Ancient History The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-26 21:29 +0100
    Re: Ancient History The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-25 12:31 +0100
      Re: Ancient History Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2026-08-25 07:53 -0400
      Re: Ancient History Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-08-25 18:26 +0000
        Re: Ancient History rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-25 19:37 +0000
    Re: Ancient History rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-25 19:16 +0000
      Re: Ancient History The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-25 20:21 +0100
        Re: Ancient History rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-26 04:40 +0000
  Re: Ancient History The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-25 12:30 +0100
    Re: Ancient History c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-26 02:49 -0400
  Re: Ancient History "Mr. Chang Man-wai" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-08-25 20:07 +0800
  Re: Ancient History Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-08-25 11:20 -0400
    Re: Ancient History Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2026-08-25 17:44 +0000
    Re: Ancient History Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-25 21:55 +0000
  Re: Ancient History not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2026-08-27 08:59 +1000
    Re: Ancient History rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-27 01:20 +0000
      Re: Ancient History c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-27 03:38 -0400
        Re: Ancient History vallor <vallor@vallor.earth> - 2026-08-27 08:08 +0000
          Re: Ancient History c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-27 22:13 -0400
            Re: Ancient History rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-28 04:24 +0000
    Re: Ancient History c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-27 03:21 -0400
      Re: Ancient History not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2026-08-28 08:58 +1000
        Re: Ancient History c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-28 00:36 -0400
        Re: Ancient History rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-28 04:42 +0000
          Re: Ancient History c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-28 02:37 -0400
  Re: Ancient History Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-08-28 08:59 +0100

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