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Re: Ok, Did Sign Up For Starlink - Let's See

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On 16/10/2026 13:17, Lars Poulsen wrote:
> On 10/16/2026 01:55, c186282 wrote:
>> [...]    But STILL can't seem to get at the actual ROUTER SETTINGS
>>    shit quite yet, despite downloading what SEEMS to be the
>>    correct Starlink 'app' on my iPad. The fucking router
>>    has NO direct access to the settings, HAVE to do them
>>    through an 'app'. Horrible design ! Was NOT gonna buy
>>    a $700+ phone just to tweak their router. DID have the
>>    fucking iPad from a previous misadventure, so ... I'll see.
>>
>>    HATE iPads/Apple. 101% NOT "intuitive" for ME. Just
>>    not wired that way - plus the devices seem to be
>>    designed to frustrate/obfuscate sane adjustments.
> 1) From what you say, this was designed as a consumer device.
>     One of the ways to make tech devices "safe" for consumers
>     is to not let the customer screw with ïmportant" settings.
> 
Oh absolutely. Non technical people get a thrill out of working out how 
the thing works. Technical people want to get their thrill out of making 
it work the way they want. Which is why Apple products are the darlings 
of the totally non technical user. They flatter their egos.

>     The router device I got from Frontier has no user documentation.
>     The help desk tech that you can get to talk to on the phone
>     (if you are lucky) can talk you into a command line. It includes
>     a WiFi radio, which I can't turn off, and which appears to
>     project as separate SSID for other Frontier customers to
>     use when they are in the neighborhood. The software/firmware
>     in it is custom built for Frontier, and there is no manual
>     available from Frontier, from the French manufacturer or
>     findable from a web search. But it gives me a static
>     IP address on the wired interface, and I take it from there
>     to my own edge router.
> 
Gordon Bennet. That sounds like the worst of British Telecomm in spades.
Their supplied routers also regularly crashed, the support was simple 
'unplug them from the power, and plug them in again;


> 2) There is no reason to buy a new iPhone. You can get a
>     low-to-mid-range Android phone gently used for $150 or less.
>     I have one myself as a spare: Motorola Moto Stylus.
>     Look on Amazon for a good selection.
> 
Nobody wants old androids at all, You can barely give them way. They 
still work

> 3) Small touchscreens have limitations that dictate a user
>     interface very different from a computer screen with a
>     mouse. No right-click and no keyboard shortcuts with
>     multiple mode-shifting keys like control, alt, alt-gr
>     etc.
> 
One ot the reasions they are utter crap

> I share a lot of background with you (career-wise, at least) and yet we 
> are different enough that I can gain some insights from you that I don't 
> get from the people I hang out with in the flesh. I know you - and the 
> other "old geeks" here enough to enjoy our chats here, so it hurts me to 
> have to say this:
> 
> You seem to think that because you used to write code for techies you 
> are hot shit and the young folks that work for the consumer tech 
> companies should respect you and give you their cheat codes. Forget it, 
> you are just an old cranky geezer to them. Live with it.
> 
Lol. Aren't we all. But then they are a bunch on entitled ignorant 
tossers to us as well.,


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Ok, Did Sign Up For Starlink - Let's See c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-10-14 04:15 -0400
  Re: Ok, Did Sign Up For Starlink - Let's See Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2026-10-14 07:06 -0700
    Re: Ok, Did Sign Up For Starlink - Let's See rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-14 19:23 +0000
      Re: Ok, Did Sign Up For Starlink - Let's See The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-15 10:02 +0100
        Re: Ok, Did Sign Up For Starlink - Let's See Pancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com> - 2026-10-15 11:18 +0100
          Re: Ok, Did Sign Up For Starlink - Let's See The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-15 12:53 +0100
            Re: Ok, Did Sign Up For Starlink - Let's See "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-15 15:14 +0200
              Re: Ok, Did Sign Up For Starlink - Let's See The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-15 14:39 +0100
              Re: Ok, Did Sign Up For Starlink - Let's See c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-10-16 01:06 -0400
                Re: Ok, Did Sign Up For Starlink - Let's See c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-10-16 04:55 -0400
                Re: Ok, Did Sign Up For Starlink - Let's See Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2026-10-16 05:17 -0700
                Re: Ok, Did Sign Up For Starlink - Let's See The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-16 15:36 +0100
                Re: Ok, Did Sign Up For Starlink - Let's See Fritz Wuehler <fritz@spamexpire-202610.rodent.frell.theremailer.net> - 2026-10-17 04:27 +0200
                Re: Ok, Did Sign Up For Starlink - Let's See rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-17 03:32 +0000
                Re: Ok, Did Sign Up For Starlink - Let's See "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-17 12:46 +0200
                Re: Ok, Did Sign Up For Starlink - Let's See rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-17 19:26 +0000
                Re: Ok, Did Sign Up For Starlink - Let's See "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-17 22:06 +0200
                Re: Ok, Did Sign Up For Starlink - Let's See c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-10-18 04:29 -0400
                Re: Ok, Did Sign Up For Starlink - Let's See "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-18 14:17 +0200
                Re: Ok, Did Sign Up For Starlink - Let's See c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-10-19 00:41 -0400
                Re: Ok, Did Sign Up For Starlink - Let's See The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-18 11:26 +0100
                Re: Ok, Did Sign Up For Starlink - Let's See c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-10-17 01:47 -0400
                Re: Ok, Did Sign Up For Starlink - Let's See The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-17 09:30 +0100
                Re: Ok, Did Sign Up For Starlink - Let's See "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-17 12:49 +0200
                Re: Ok, Did Sign Up For Starlink - Let's See Fritz Wuehler <fritz@spamexpire-202610.rodent.frell.theremailer.net> - 2026-10-17 21:19 +0200
                Re: Ok, Did Sign Up For Starlink - Let's See "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-17 12:51 +0200
                Re: Ok, Did Sign Up For Starlink - Let's See The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-17 12:13 +0100
        Re: Ok, Did Sign Up For Starlink - Let's See rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-15 20:29 +0000
          Re: Ok, Did Sign Up For Starlink - Let's See The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-16 10:11 +0100
    Re: Ok, Did Sign Up For Starlink - Let's See c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-10-14 23:49 -0400

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