Re: The hammer is best

From	The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Newsgroups	comp.os.linux.misc
Subject	Re: The hammer is best
Date	2026-08-24 11:26 +0100
Organization	A little, after lunch
Message-ID	<116h683$2o5cd$3@dont-email.me> (permalink)
References	(4 earlier) <116dcl1$3hva0$1@news.xmission.com> <wwvmrudkxkf.fsf@LkoBDZeT.terraraq.uk> <gm3rlmxqg4.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> <116eoal$1sako$9@dont-email.me> <116fh62$kokl$1@news1.tnib.de>

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On 23/08/2026 20:20, Marc Haber wrote:
> The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>> On 23/08/2026 12:55, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>> Hard disks are simply repurposed, recycled, sold... usually zeroing them
>>> first. Encryption protects the case when zeroing is forgotten, or the
>>> disk breaks before that. Encryption protects against such accidents.
>>>
>> No, they are not. Not by corporations. Some Mickey Mouse companies with
>> nothing worth stealing might...
> 
> Corporations still act on the customs of the 2000 years because using
> their brains costs money that doesn't land in budgets where the money
> to destroy disks is already booked.
> 
No., They have the wisdom of age.
Crushing a disk loses maybe $20. Having a disks data stolen could cots 
them $billions
There is no way to be assured other than by doing $10,000 worth of 
testing that a disks data has completely been destroyed beyond foresnic 
recovery, but if the disk is crushed there is certainty.

Likewise the audit trails to determine whether or not the disk held any 
sensitive data or not are expensive to maintain and even more to trace.


$20 is a small price to pay for certainty


> Greetings
> Marc

-- 
The theory of Communism may be summed up in one sentence: Abolish all 
private property.

Karl Marx

Thread

/dev/tcp Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com> - 2026-08-19 21:20 +0000
  Re: /dev/tcp Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-19 23:53 +0100
  Re: /dev/tcp Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-19 23:42 +0000
    Re: /dev/tcp Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com> - 2026-08-20 00:59 +0000
      Re: /dev/tcp Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-20 03:59 +0000
        Re: /dev/tcp Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-20 10:10 +0100
        Re: /dev/tcp Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com> - 2026-08-20 18:15 +0000
          Re: /dev/tcp Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-20 23:30 +0000
            Re: /dev/tcp Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-21 01:18 +0100
            Re: /dev/tcp Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam2616@zugschl.us> - 2026-08-21 09:52 +0200
              Re: /dev/tcp Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-21 08:12 +0000
                Re: /dev/tcp Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam2616@zugschl.us> - 2026-08-21 11:16 +0200
                Re: /dev/tcp Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-21 22:57 +0000
                Re: /dev/tcp Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam2616@zugschl.us> - 2026-08-22 06:17 +0200
              Re: /dev/tcp c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-21 21:50 -0400
              Re: /dev/tcp Anssi Saari <anssi.saari@usenet.mail.kapsi.fi> - 2026-08-24 17:42 +0300
                Re: /dev/tcp Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-24 23:53 +0000
                Re: /dev/tcp c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-25 02:27 -0400
            Re: /dev/tcp vallor <vallor@vallor.earth> - 2026-08-23 00:56 +0000
              Re: /dev/tcp Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-08-23 04:01 +0000
                Re: /dev/tcp c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-23 03:37 -0400
                Re: /dev/tcp "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-23 13:50 +0200
                Re: /dev/tcp vallor <vallor@vallor.earth> - 2026-08-23 22:28 +0000
                Re: /dev/tcp "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-24 09:35 +0200
                Overwriting with random data (was: Re: /dev/tcp) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-24 11:10 +0100
                Re: Overwriting with random data "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-24 20:34 +0200
                Re: Overwriting with random data Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-24 20:57 +0100
                Re: Overwriting with random data "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-24 22:26 +0200
                Re: Overwriting with random data c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-25 02:39 -0400
                Re: Overwriting with random data Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-25 08:45 +0100
                Re: /dev/tcp c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-25 00:37 -0400
                Re: /dev/tcp c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-24 00:31 -0400
                Re: /dev/tcp "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-24 09:45 +0200
                Re: /dev/tcp The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-23 12:52 +0100
                Re: /dev/tcp The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-23 12:50 +0100
  Re: /dev/tcp Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-08-20 13:50 +0000
    Re: /dev/tcp c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-20 13:02 -0400
      Re: /dev/tcp Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-08-20 18:26 +0000
      Re: /dev/tcp The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-21 13:54 +0100
        Re: /dev/tcp c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-21 22:57 -0400
          Re: /dev/tcp "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-22 21:47 +0200
            The hammer is best (Was: /dev/tcp) gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2026-08-22 23:50 +0000
              Re: The hammer is best (Was: /dev/tcp) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-23 04:28 -0400
              Re: The hammer is best Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-23 10:14 +0100
                Re: The hammer is best "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-23 13:55 +0200
                Re: The hammer is best The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-23 13:16 +0100
                Re: The hammer is best Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam2616@zugschl.us> - 2026-08-23 21:20 +0200
                Re: The hammer is best c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-24 02:18 -0400
                Re: The hammer is best The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-24 11:26 +0100
                Re: The hammer is best c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-25 02:06 -0400
                Re: The hammer is best Joed Oakes <lost@noway.home.invalid> - 2026-08-23 19:42 -0400
                Re: The hammer is best Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-23 23:56 +0000
                Re: The hammer is best c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-24 02:25 -0400
                Re: The hammer is best rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-24 01:14 +0000
                Re: The hammer is best "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-24 09:50 +0200
                Re: The hammer is best c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-25 00:56 -0400
                Re: The hammer is best c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-24 00:53 -0400
                Re: The hammer is best rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-24 06:42 +0000
                Re: The hammer is best c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-24 23:34 -0400
                Re: The hammer is best rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-25 04:08 +0000
                Re: The hammer is best The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-24 11:28 +0100
                Re: The hammer is best c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-25 02:07 -0400
                Re: The hammer is best rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-25 06:39 +0000
                Re: The hammer is best c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-23 22:16 -0400
      Re: /dev/tcp Geoff Clare <geoff@clare.See-My-Signature.invalid> - 2026-08-21 13:41 +0100
        Re: /dev/tcp Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-21 22:58 +0000
        Re: /dev/tcp c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-21 22:28 -0400
          ksh (was: /dev/tcp) Geoff Clare <geoff@clare.See-My-Signature.invalid> - 2026-08-24 13:56 +0100
            Bash vs. ksh - Does it matter? And the 'vi' mode thing... (Was: ksh (was: /dev/tcp)) gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2026-08-24 14:57 +0000
            Re: ksh (was: /dev/tcp) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-24 21:08 +0000
              Re: ksh (was: /dev/tcp) gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2026-08-24 21:28 +0000
              Re: ksh (was: /dev/tcp) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-25 01:11 +0000
            Re: ksh c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-25 02:25 -0400
              Re: ksh rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-25 06:52 +0000
              Re: ksh Marco Moock <mm@dorfdsl.de> - 2026-08-25 09:56 +0200
    Re: /dev/tcp Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com> - 2026-08-20 18:22 +0000
      Re: /dev/tcp The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-21 13:57 +0100
  Re: /dev/tcp Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2026-08-23 06:37 -0700
    Re: /dev/tcp Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-23 14:49 +0100
    Re: /dev/tcp The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-23 16:13 +0100
    Re: /dev/tcp Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-23 22:31 +0000
      Re: /dev/tcp Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-24 19:08 +0100

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