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Re: The hammer is best

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On 23/08/2026 12:55, Carlos E.R. wrote:
> On 2026-08-23 11:14, Richard Kettlewell wrote:
>> gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) writes:
>>> Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
>>> ...
>>>>>    are hidden buffers plus the wear-leveling scheme
>>>>>    gets in the way. You wipe 'em the Hillary Clinton
>>>>>    way - HAMMER :-)
>>>>
>>>> Instead, use encryption, on the device or the partitions.
>>>
>>> Hammer is better, because encryption can be worked around by holding a
>>> gun to the head of the person who knows the encryption key.
>>
>> My backup drives are encrypted. In principle they could be stolen from
>> here, from an offsite location or in transit and if that happens I won’t
>> have the opportunity to destroy it.
> 
> Exactly.
> 
> And in the typical business case, hammering of disks is not often done. 

It is UNIVERSALLY done in the UK.
Insurance will be voided, contracts lost  and people will get fired if 
it is not.

The big sources of usable hardware are BIG corporates - banks, insurance 
companies, travel agencies... they dump a thousand machines a year to 
recycling companies who sign in blood that the disk will be CRUSHED.

> Hard disks are simply repurposed, recycled, sold... usually zeroing them 
> first. Encryption protects the case when zeroing is forgotten, or the 
> disk breaks before that. Encryption protects against such accidents.
> 
No, they are not. Not by corporations. Some Mickey Mouse companies with 
nothing worth stealing might...


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The greener grows the grass.
The higher up the monkey climbs
The more he shows his arse.

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/dev/tcp Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com> - 2026-08-19 21:20 +0000
  Re: /dev/tcp Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-19 23:53 +0100
  Re: /dev/tcp Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-19 23:42 +0000
    Re: /dev/tcp Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com> - 2026-08-20 00:59 +0000
      Re: /dev/tcp Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-20 03:59 +0000
        Re: /dev/tcp Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-20 10:10 +0100
        Re: /dev/tcp Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com> - 2026-08-20 18:15 +0000
          Re: /dev/tcp Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-20 23:30 +0000
            Re: /dev/tcp Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-21 01:18 +0100
            Re: /dev/tcp Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam2616@zugschl.us> - 2026-08-21 09:52 +0200
              Re: /dev/tcp Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-21 08:12 +0000
                Re: /dev/tcp Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam2616@zugschl.us> - 2026-08-21 11:16 +0200
                Re: /dev/tcp Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-21 22:57 +0000
                Re: /dev/tcp Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam2616@zugschl.us> - 2026-08-22 06:17 +0200
              Re: /dev/tcp c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-21 21:50 -0400
            Re: /dev/tcp vallor <vallor@vallor.earth> - 2026-08-23 00:56 +0000
              Re: /dev/tcp Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-08-23 04:01 +0000
                Re: /dev/tcp c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-23 03:37 -0400
                Re: /dev/tcp "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-23 13:50 +0200
                Re: /dev/tcp The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-23 12:52 +0100
                Re: /dev/tcp The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-23 12:50 +0100
  Re: /dev/tcp Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-08-20 13:50 +0000
    Re: /dev/tcp c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-20 13:02 -0400
      Re: /dev/tcp Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-08-20 18:26 +0000
      Re: /dev/tcp The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-21 13:54 +0100
        Re: /dev/tcp c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-21 22:57 -0400
          Re: /dev/tcp "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-22 21:47 +0200
            The hammer is best (Was: /dev/tcp) gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2026-08-22 23:50 +0000
              Re: The hammer is best (Was: /dev/tcp) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-23 04:28 -0400
              Re: The hammer is best Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-23 10:14 +0100
                Re: The hammer is best "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-23 13:55 +0200
                Re: The hammer is best The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-23 13:16 +0100
      Re: /dev/tcp Geoff Clare <geoff@clare.See-My-Signature.invalid> - 2026-08-21 13:41 +0100
        Re: /dev/tcp Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-21 22:58 +0000
        Re: /dev/tcp c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-21 22:28 -0400
    Re: /dev/tcp Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com> - 2026-08-20 18:22 +0000
      Re: /dev/tcp The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-21 13:57 +0100
  Re: /dev/tcp Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2026-08-23 06:37 -0700
    Re: /dev/tcp Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-23 14:49 +0100
    Re: /dev/tcp The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-23 16:13 +0100

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