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Re: what the hell?

From William Poaster <wp@dev.null>
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.misc
Subject Re: what the hell?
Date 2015-12-25 16:51 +0000
Organization Llareggub-Obllocks
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It was reported that Andreas Kohlbach posted:


> But the main reason is IMO that Linux desktop has a low market share. Not
> commercially interesting enough for the bad guys to create viruses.

It's generally acknowledged that Linux users are more "savvy" than their
windows using counterparts, & attacks based on tricking users into
executing malware is difficult. Also a lot of users simply don't have the
appropriate privileges to affect things outside their accounts, especially
the crucial OS directories.  UNIX systems in general also enforce a
separation in data and code that makes document-based attacks impractical.
Attacks directed at Linux systems tend to be aimed at exploiting bugs in
system services such as web browsers or Java containers. These don't
frequently run with elevated privileges either, so an exploit is typically
contained to altering the behavior of the targeted service.
Most systems don't allow a remote root login, by default, which helps.
In general, Linux systems are inherently more secure than windows ones. 
So for these reasons, a blackhat cracker who manages to remotely control a
Linux box, has more bragging rights than the ones who can take control of
windows ones. If s/he can take control of a Linux box, they have a much
more powerful tool than the would if they pwned a windows one.

Furthermore Linux server systems are attacked by malicious software *very*
often. DDOS attacks, malware etc. 
However whether the attacks will succeed is another matter. The only
moderately successful one (compared to the damage cause to windows systems
by malware) was the "Linux Hand of Thief" trojan. 

In short, just because the Linux desktop has "a low market share" (which is
estimated to be about 83 million users) it does not mean that malware
writers aren't interested, but it *is* because windows boxes are easier to
crack.

"How secure is Linux?"
https://www.futurehosting.com/blog/how-secure-is-linux-the-myths-and-the-facts/

-- 
openSUSE 13.2 64-bit
KDE 4.14.9
Kernel: 4.2.2-1.gb3ecf72-desktop #1 SMP PREEMPT 
Tue Sep 29 18:51:15 UTC 2015 (b3ecf72) x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux

This message is virus free, as absolutely 
NO Micro$oft products were used in its preparation. 

"If you do want to clean your computer of malware, the first software to
delete is Windows."
http://www.gnu.org/proprietary/malware-microsoft.en.html

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what the hell? HGW <hw@...> - 2015-12-24 08:36 +1100
  Re: what the hell? Aragorn <thorongil@telenet.be.invalid> - 2015-12-23 22:46 +0100
  Re: what the hell? Jens Stuckelberger <Jens_Stuckelberger@nowhere.net> - 2015-12-23 23:58 +0000
  Re: what the hell? William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2015-12-24 00:28 +0000
    Re: what the hell? Henry Wilson <HGW@home.com> - 2015-12-24 11:43 +0000
      Re: what the hell? "D. Lowe" <d.lowe@openmailbox.org> - 2015-12-24 11:57 +0000
        Re: what the hell? "D. Lowe" <d.lowe@openmailbox.org> - 2015-12-24 12:00 +0000
          Re: what the hell? Robert Heller <heller@deepsoft.com> - 2015-12-24 08:01 -0600
          Re: what the hell? "Carlos E.R." <cer@invalid.es> - 2015-12-24 15:02 +0100
            Re: what the hell? Andreas Kohlbach <decem15.8.ankman@spamgourmet.net> - 2015-12-24 17:19 -0500
              Re: what the hell? "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@invalid.es> - 2016-01-05 12:36 +0100
                Re: what the hell? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-01-05 18:46 +0000
      Re: what the hell? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2015-12-24 12:22 +0000
      Re: what the hell? Kara M'bola <maxupixu@in.val.it> - 2015-12-24 12:23 +0000
        Re: what the hell? "john@wexfordpress.com" <john@wexfordpress.com> - 2016-01-05 10:53 -0800
          Re: what the hell? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-01-05 19:16 +0000
            Re: what the hell? "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@invalid.es> - 2016-01-06 00:40 +0100
              Re: what the hell? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-01-06 03:13 +0000
      Re: what the hell? Aragorn <thorongil@telenet.be.invalid> - 2015-12-24 13:52 +0100
        Re: what the hell? Andreas Kohlbach <decem15.8.ankman@spamgourmet.net> - 2015-12-24 17:23 -0500
      Re: what the hell? "Carlos E.R." <cer@invalid.es> - 2015-12-24 15:05 +0100
        Re: what the hell? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2015-12-24 14:24 +0000
          Re: what the hell? "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@invalid.es> - 2016-01-05 12:38 +0100
        Re: what the hell? Andreas Kohlbach <decem15.8.ankman@spamgourmet.net> - 2015-12-24 17:28 -0500
          Re: what the hell? William Poaster <wp@dev.null> - 2015-12-25 16:51 +0000
      Re: what the hell? ray carter <ray@zianet.com> - 2015-12-24 15:23 +0000
      Re: what the hell? Jens Stuckelberger <Jens_Stuckelberger@nowhere.net> - 2015-12-24 16:52 +0000
        Re: what the hell? Doug Laidlaw <doug@douglaidlaw.net> - 2015-12-25 04:16 +1100
      Re: what the hell? Keith Keller <kkeller-usenet@wombat.san-francisco.ca.us> - 2015-12-24 09:35 -0800
      Re: what the hell? William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2015-12-24 18:23 +0000
      Re: what the hell? Howard S Shubs <howard@shubs.net> - 2015-12-24 23:20 +0000
        Re: what the hell? Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2015-12-24 15:27 -0800
        Re: what the hell? HGW <hw@...> - 2015-12-25 12:18 +1100
          Re: what the hell? Keith Keller <kkeller-usenet@wombat.san-francisco.ca.us> - 2015-12-24 17:29 -0800
          Re: what the hell? J G Miller <miller@yoyo.ORG> - 2015-12-25 02:39 +0000
            Re: what the hell? HGW <hw@...> - 2015-12-25 15:54 +1100
              Re: what the hell? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2015-12-25 09:41 +0000
                Re: what the hell? Henry Wilson <HGW@home.com> - 2015-12-25 11:18 +0000
              Re: what the hell? J G Miller <miller@yoyo.ORG> - 2015-12-25 16:16 +0000
                Re: what the hell? Henry Wilson <HGW@home.com> - 2015-12-25 19:35 +0000
                Re: what the hell? Kara M'bola <maxupixu@in.val.it> - 2015-12-25 19:48 +0000
                Re: what the hell? Henry Wilson <HGW@home.com> - 2015-12-25 21:02 +0000
                Re: what the hell? Kara M'bola <maxupixu@in.val.it> - 2015-12-25 21:47 +0000
                Re: what the hell? John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2015-12-25 15:43 -0600
                Re: what the hell? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2015-12-26 10:42 +0000
                Re: what the hell? J G Miller <miller@yoyo.ORG> - 2015-12-25 21:08 +0000
                Re: what the hell? pureheart@pacbell.net - 2015-12-30 09:23 -0800
                Re: what the hell? Robert Heller <heller@deepsoft.com> - 2015-12-25 15:22 -0600
                Re: what the hell? J G Miller <miller@yoyo.ORG> - 2015-12-25 21:50 +0000
                Re: what the hell? Chick Tower <c.tower@deadspam.com> - 2015-12-27 03:50 +0000
                Re: what the hell? Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-12-25 21:00 -0500
                Re: what the hell? Henry Wilson <HGW@home.com> - 2015-12-26 03:55 +0000
                Re: what the hell? Keith Keller <kkeller-usenet@wombat.san-francisco.ca.us> - 2015-12-25 20:52 -0800
                Re: what the hell? John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2015-12-26 10:01 -0600
                Re: what the hell? Keith Keller <kkeller-usenet@wombat.san-francisco.ca.us> - 2015-12-26 11:41 -0800
                Re: what the hell? Robert Heller <heller@deepsoft.com> - 2015-12-26 00:16 -0600
                Re: what the hell? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2015-12-26 10:47 +0000
                Re: what the hell? Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-12-26 13:40 -0500
                Re: what the hell? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2015-12-26 19:38 +0000
                Re: what the hell? Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-12-26 16:27 -0500
                Re: what the hell? Kara M'bola <maxupixu@in.val.it> - 2015-12-26 11:40 +0000
                Re: what the hell? Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-12-26 13:32 -0500
                Re: what the hell? HGW <HG@...> - 2015-12-27 00:41 +0000
                Re: what the hell? Chick Tower <c.tower@deadspam.com> - 2015-12-27 20:24 +0000
                Re: what the hell? John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2015-12-27 15:36 -0600
                Re: what the hell? "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@invalid.es> - 2016-01-05 12:54 +0100
                Re: what the hell? John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2016-01-05 08:01 -0600
                Re: what the hell? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2016-01-05 14:29 +0000
                Re: what the hell? Chick Tower <c.tower@deadspam.com> - 2015-12-27 03:50 +0000
          Re: what the hell? William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2015-12-25 10:06 +0000
            Re: what the hell? Henry Wilson <HGW@home.com> - 2015-12-25 11:22 +0000
              Re: what the hell? William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2015-12-25 16:03 +0000
                Re: what the hell? HGW <HG@...> - 2015-12-27 00:41 +0000
                Re: what the hell? William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2015-12-27 00:47 +0000
        Re: what the hell? HGW <hw@...> - 2015-12-25 12:20 +1100
  Re: what the hell? "john@wexfordpress.com" <john@wexfordpress.com> - 2016-01-05 10:43 -0800
    Re: what the hell? William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2016-01-05 19:50 +0000

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