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NEC monitor

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First post2011-12-24 21:36 +0000
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  NEC monitor notbob <notbob@nothome.com> - 2011-12-24 21:36 +0000
    Re: NEC monitor The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2011-12-24 22:34 +0000
      Re: NEC monitor dk3uz@arrl.net (Edmund H. Ramm) - 2011-12-25 17:28 +0000
    Re: NEC monitor TJ <TJ@noneofyour.business> - 2011-12-24 17:44 -0500
      Re: NEC monitor TJ <TJ@noneofyour.business> - 2011-12-25 08:50 -0500
      Re: NEC monitor philo <philo@invalid.not> - 2011-12-25 07:55 -0600
        Re: NEC monitor Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2011-12-25 10:00 -0500
          Re: NEC monitor notbob <notbob@nothome.com> - 2011-12-25 15:13 +0000
            Re: NEC monitor Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2011-12-25 10:41 -0500
            Re: NEC monitor TJ <TJ@noneofyour.business> - 2011-12-25 10:41 -0500
            Re: NEC monitor The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2011-12-25 19:20 +0000
              Re: NEC monitor anotherpaul <file-box02@no-hotmail.com.invalid> - 2011-12-25 21:41 +0000
                Re: NEC monitor The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2011-12-25 23:07 +0000
                  Re: NEC monitor anotherpaul <file-box02@no-hotmail.com.invalid> - 2011-12-26 02:24 +0000
                    Re: NEC monitor Jerry Peters <jerry@example.invalid> - 2011-12-26 21:53 +0000
                Re: NEC monitor Bit Twister <BitTwister@mouse-potato.com> - 2011-12-26 11:35 +0000
                  Re: NEC monitor anotherpaul <file-box02@no-hotmail.com.invalid> - 2011-12-26 17:16 +0000
                Re: NEC monitor TJ <TJ@noneofyour.business> - 2011-12-26 12:53 -0500
          Re: NEC monitor philo <philo@invalid.not> - 2011-12-25 09:30 -0600
    Re: NEC monitor J G Miller <miller@yoyo.ORG> - 2011-12-25 01:26 +0000
    Re: NEC monitor -rw------- <no@no.no> - 2011-12-25 02:09 +0000
    Re: NEC monitor General Schvantzkoph <schvantzkoph@yahoo.com> - 2011-12-25 02:27 +0000
    Re: NEC monitor Bill Waddington <william.waddington@beezmo.com> - 2011-12-25 07:49 -0800
    Re: NEC monitor david <none@nospam.com> - 2011-12-25 21:03 +0000
    Re: NEC monitor ray <ray@zianet.com> - 2011-12-26 18:37 +0000

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#936 — NEC monitor

Fromnotbob <notbob@nothome.com>
Date2011-12-24 21:36 +0000
SubjectNEC monitor
Message-ID<slrnjfchen.3es.notbob@nbleet.hcc.net>
I need a new monitor, my last CRT be a'dying.  I will cave and buy a
new LCD.  My question is, how are the NEC LCD monitors.  I know that
the older NEC CRT monitors were "brighter" than other monitors.  As a
geezer with marginal eyesight, this is important.  Does that still
apply to NEC LCD monitors?  I'll probably be going min 20" or larger.
I use Slackware.  Don't see any compatibility issues.  Should I?  Any
other suggested choices welcome.  Thank you and Merry Christmas. ;)

nb  

-- 
eschew obfuscation

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#937

FromThe Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Date2011-12-24 22:34 +0000
Message-ID<jd5k25$8mf$2@news.albasani.net>
In reply to#936
notbob wrote:
> I need a new monitor, my last CRT be a'dying.  I will cave and buy a
> new LCD.  My question is, how are the NEC LCD monitors.  I know that
> the older NEC CRT monitors were "brighter" than other monitors.  As a
> geezer with marginal eyesight, this is important.  Does that still
> apply to NEC LCD monitors?  I'll probably be going min 20" or larger.
> I use Slackware.  Don't see any compatibility issues.  Should I?  Any
> other suggested choices welcome.  Thank you and Merry Christmas. ;)
> 
> nb  
> 
I have found samsung syncmasters to be very good value for money.


Not the greatest viewing angle, but unless you are all round watching 
internet porn who cares.

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#950

Fromdk3uz@arrl.net (Edmund H. Ramm)
Date2011-12-25 17:28 +0000
Message-ID<jd7mfn$6ps$1@dk3uz.ampr.org>
In reply to#937
In <jd5k25$8mf$2@news.albasani.net> The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> writes:

> I have found samsung syncmasters to be very good value for money.
> [...]

   Not only that, they also provide some real exercise when those
electrolytic capacitors in the power supply need to be replaced.
Been there, done that with my 204B.

   Eddi ._._.
-- 
      e-mail: dk3uz AT arrl DOT net  |  AMPRNET: dk3uz@db0hht.ampr.org
               Linux/m68k, the best U**x ever to hit an Atari!

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#938

FromTJ <TJ@noneofyour.business>
Date2011-12-24 17:44 -0500
Message-ID<jd5kk3$rsm$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#936
On 12/24/2011 04:36 PM, notbob wrote:
> I need a new monitor, my last CRT be a'dying.  I will cave and buy a
> new LCD.  My question is, how are the NEC LCD monitors.  I know that
> the older NEC CRT monitors were "brighter" than other monitors.  As a
> geezer with marginal eyesight, this is important.  Does that still
> apply to NEC LCD monitors?  I'll probably be going min 20" or larger.
> I use Slackware.  Don't see any compatibility issues.  Should I?  Any
> other suggested choices welcome.  Thank you and Merry Christmas. ;)
>
> nb
>
At 62, by some folks' reckoning I qualify for geezerhood, and while it's 
still pretty good my eyesight isn't what it was 30 years ago, either.

I bought a refurbished 23-inch Samsung LCD about seven months ago. I was 
using Mandriva 2010.2 back then, Mageia 1 now. The default out-of-the 
box brightness setting was WAY too high, much brighter than my old NEC 
XE21 CRT. I had to cut it about in half.

This is the only LCD I've used, so I can't compare it to any others. 
However, I think a Samsung would have all the brightness you require. I 
know I'm happy with mine, and another refurbished Samsung, this one a 
20-incher, is due to arrive here for my brother's computer Tuesday.

TJ

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#942

FromTJ <TJ@noneofyour.business>
Date2011-12-25 08:50 -0500
Message-ID<jd79md$fqh$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#938
On 12/24/2011 05:44 PM, TJ wrote:
> On 12/24/2011 04:36 PM, notbob wrote:
>> I need a new monitor, my last CRT be a'dying. I will cave and buy a
>> new LCD. My question is, how are the NEC LCD monitors. I know that
>> the older NEC CRT monitors were "brighter" than other monitors. As a
>> geezer with marginal eyesight, this is important. Does that still
>> apply to NEC LCD monitors? I'll probably be going min 20" or larger.
>> I use Slackware. Don't see any compatibility issues. Should I? Any
>> other suggested choices welcome. Thank you and Merry Christmas. ;)
>>
>> nb
>>
> At 62, by some folks' reckoning I qualify for geezerhood, and while it's
> still pretty good my eyesight isn't what it was 30 years ago, either.
>
> I bought a refurbished 23-inch Samsung LCD about seven months ago. I was
> using Mandriva 2010.2 back then, Mageia 1 now. The default out-of-the
> box brightness setting was WAY too high, much brighter than my old NEC
> XE21 CRT. I had to cut it about in half.
>
> This is the only LCD I've used, so I can't compare it to any others.
> However, I think a Samsung would have all the brightness you require. I
> know I'm happy with mine, and another refurbished Samsung, this one a
> 20-incher, is due to arrive here for my brother's computer Tuesday.
>
> TJ

Forgot to mention - my LCD came from Overstock.com. If you don't mind 
the idea of a refurb, that's a good place to look. Big selection, 
low-cost shipping.

Refurb reliability is very close to that of new, if not even a bit 
better in some cases. While often last year's models, going refurb is a 
good way to get better features at a lower price.

TJ

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#943

Fromphilo <philo@invalid.not>
Date2011-12-25 07:55 -0600
Message-ID<jd79vr$h03$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#938
On 12/24/2011 04:44 PM, TJ wrote:
> On 12/24/2011 04:36 PM, notbob wrote:
>> I need a new monitor, my last CRT be a'dying. I will cave and buy a
>> new LCD. My question is, how are the NEC LCD monitors. I know that
>> the older NEC CRT monitors were "brighter" than other monitors. As a
>> geezer with marginal eyesight, this is important. Does that still
>> apply to NEC LCD monitors? I'll probably be going min 20" or larger.
>> I use Slackware. Don't see any compatibility issues. Should I? Any
>> other suggested choices welcome. Thank you and Merry Christmas. ;)
>>
>> nb
>>
> At 62, by some folks' reckoning I qualify for geezerhood, and while it's
> still pretty good my eyesight isn't what it was 30 years ago, either.
>


<snip>

I am also 62 and a few years ago I was in the middle of a project and my 
15" screen was not cutting it.

I was so frustrated I just went on line and ordered the first cheap 
monitor I could find...I did no research at all and got a 22" KDS for 
about $200.

Works absolutely fine.

I have two machines that use the monitor via a KVM switch and noticed 
that the video on my Linux installation was considerably crisper than my 
XP install.

Turned out that Linux probed the monitor at 1680x1050
which is actually *greater* than the monitor's native resolution.
I later changed my XP install to the same and noticed an improvement.

I was not sure if going over the native resolution would hurt anything
but I guess not, as I have been running things this way for over two years.


Now , as to being 62.

I was at a Christmas party last night and one of the first things 
someone asked me was "Are you retired?"

The answer is "NO"


sheesh

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#944

FromDan Espen <despen@verizon.net>
Date2011-12-25 10:00 -0500
Message-ID<ic4nwou256.fsf@home.home>
In reply to#943
philo <philo@invalid.not> writes:

> On 12/24/2011 04:44 PM, TJ wrote:
>> On 12/24/2011 04:36 PM, notbob wrote:
>>> I need a new monitor, my last CRT be a'dying. I will cave and buy a
>>> new LCD. My question is, how are the NEC LCD monitors. I know that
>>> the older NEC CRT monitors were "brighter" than other monitors. As a
>>> geezer with marginal eyesight, this is important. Does that still
>>> apply to NEC LCD monitors? I'll probably be going min 20" or larger.
>>> I use Slackware. Don't see any compatibility issues. Should I? Any
>>> other suggested choices welcome. Thank you and Merry Christmas. ;)
>>>
>>> nb
>>>
>> At 62, by some folks' reckoning I qualify for geezerhood, and while it's
>> still pretty good my eyesight isn't what it was 30 years ago, either.
>>
>
>
> <snip>
>
> I am also 62 and a few years ago I was in the middle of a project and
> my 15" screen was not cutting it.
>
> I was so frustrated I just went on line and ordered the first cheap
> monitor I could find...I did no research at all and got a 22" KDS for
> about $200.
>
> Works absolutely fine.
>
> I have two machines that use the monitor via a KVM switch and noticed
> that the video on my Linux installation was considerably crisper than
> my XP install.
>
> Turned out that Linux probed the monitor at 1680x1050
> which is actually *greater* than the monitor's native resolution.
> I later changed my XP install to the same and noticed an improvement.
>
> I was not sure if going over the native resolution would hurt anything
> but I guess not, as I have been running things this way for over two years.

Strange.  An LCD monitor only has one resolution.
Yep.  If this is your monitor:

http://www.kdsusa.com/k22mdwb.asp

1680x1050 is the right and only resolution.

> Now , as to being 62.
>
> I was at a Christmas party last night and one of the first things
> someone asked me was "Are you retired?"
>
> The answer is "NO"

66.  Expect to work at least to age 70.
Full time from home and summers off isn't that hard after all.

-- 
Dan Espen

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#945

Fromnotbob <notbob@nothome.com>
Date2011-12-25 15:13 +0000
Message-ID<slrnjfefdt.2q7.notbob@nbleet.hcc.net>
In reply to#944
On 2011-12-25, Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> wrote:

> Strange.  An LCD monitor only has one resolution.
> Yep.  If this is your monitor:
>
> http://www.kdsusa.com/k22mdwb.asp
>
> 1680x1050 is the right and only resolution.

I wasn't aware of that.  Can the viewed resolution be changed?  I
can't see those high resolutions.  Currently, I'm at 1024x768 and am
constantly having to zoom web pages.  I used to use 800x600 on 17"
CRTs, but this CRT is a 19".

nb

-- 
Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year

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#947

FromDan Espen <despen@verizon.net>
Date2011-12-25 10:41 -0500
Message-ID<iczkegslpj.fsf@home.home>
In reply to#945
notbob <notbob@nothome.com> writes:

> On 2011-12-25, Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>> Strange.  An LCD monitor only has one resolution.
>> Yep.  If this is your monitor:
>>
>> http://www.kdsusa.com/k22mdwb.asp
>>
>> 1680x1050 is the right and only resolution.
>
> I wasn't aware of that.  Can the viewed resolution be changed?  I
> can't see those high resolutions.  Currently, I'm at 1024x768 and am
> constantly having to zoom web pages.  I used to use 800x600 on 17"
> CRTs, but this CRT is a 19".

You can make an LCD pretend to be at other resolutions but unless it's
an even multiple the result won't be good.

A 1680x1050 can do a reasonable 840x525 by just showing each pixel 4
times.  Other numbers introduce rounding errors and text won't look
good.

I think you might be able to mess with the DPI settings to get
better results.

I sometimes need to use VNC for a windows system with a smaller
resolution.  I execute this command to magnify the window:

xrandr -s 1024x768

back to native mode is:

xrandr -s 1600x1200

-- 
Dan Espen

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#948

FromTJ <TJ@noneofyour.business>
Date2011-12-25 10:41 -0500
Message-ID<jd7g6q$cqp$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#945
On 12/25/2011 10:13 AM, notbob wrote:
> On 2011-12-25, Dan Espen<despen@verizon.net>  wrote:
>
>> Strange.  An LCD monitor only has one resolution.
>> Yep.  If this is your monitor:
>>
>> http://www.kdsusa.com/k22mdwb.asp
>>
>> 1680x1050 is the right and only resolution.
>
> I wasn't aware of that.  Can the viewed resolution be changed?  I
> can't see those high resolutions.  Currently, I'm at 1024x768 and am
> constantly having to zoom web pages.  I used to use 800x600 on 17"
> CRTs, but this CRT is a 19".
>
> nb
>
You can set it lower than native and it'll work, but like philo said 
about his, it won't look as "crisp." On the plus side though, with a 
wide screen you'll have fewer pages that you can only view with 
horizontal scrolling.

TJ

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#951

FromThe Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Date2011-12-25 19:20 +0000
Message-ID<jd7t1c$joc$1@news.albasani.net>
In reply to#945
notbob wrote:
> On 2011-12-25, Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> wrote:
> 
>> Strange.  An LCD monitor only has one resolution.
>> Yep.  If this is your monitor:
>>
>> http://www.kdsusa.com/k22mdwb.asp
>>
>> 1680x1050 is the right and only resolution.
> 
> I wasn't aware of that.  Can the viewed resolution be changed?  I
> can't see those high resolutions.  Currently, I'm at 1024x768 and am
> constantly having to zoom web pages.  I used to use 800x600 on 17"
> CRTs, but this CRT is a 19".
> 
> nb
> 
ther is a way in Windows to essentially 'make everything bigger' at the 
software level rather than hardware.

I think you change DPI rather than screen resolution and everything 
appears ..bigger - but the LCD is still running at native resolution..

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#953

Fromanotherpaul <file-box02@no-hotmail.com.invalid>
Date2011-12-25 21:41 +0000
Message-ID<jd85ar$pag$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#951
On 2011-12-25, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> notbob wrote:
>> On 2011-12-25, Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> wrote:
>> 
>>> Strange.  An LCD monitor only has one resolution.
>>> Yep.  If this is your monitor:
>>>
>>> http://www.kdsusa.com/k22mdwb.asp
>>>
>>> 1680x1050 is the right and only resolution.
>> 
>> I wasn't aware of that.  Can the viewed resolution be changed?  I
>> can't see those high resolutions.  Currently, I'm at 1024x768 and am
>> constantly having to zoom web pages.  I used to use 800x600 on 17"
>> CRTs, but this CRT is a 19".
>> 
>> nb
>> 
> ther is a way in Windows to essentially 'make everything bigger' at the 
> software level rather than hardware.
>
> I think you change DPI rather than screen resolution and everything 
> appears ..bigger - but the LCD is still running at native resolution..

If using firefox, get the Nosquint plugin/extension from the mozilla
website.  It defaults to 120% but can be set to any increase from 120%
to very much higher, perhaps 200%; can also set the preferred zoom
for any particular website.  Nosquint also can just zoom the text
only instead of the webpage.

A boon for my eyesight!  Separate versions available for windows &
linux.  Doesn't work for the desktop where one has to adjust it via
kde's config or gnome's comparable method.

The kde people did away the ability to adjust the default font size
beginning with what came with suse 11.3.  It worked like the stupid
apple crap with no system font adjustments allowed, at least since
2004.  At least with the opensuse 12.1, the kde version had increased
the system font size to quite readable on a 22" monitor.

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#954

FromThe Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Date2011-12-25 23:07 +0000
Message-ID<jd8ac9$e3m$2@news.albasani.net>
In reply to#953
anotherpaul wrote:
> On 2011-12-25, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>> notbob wrote:
>>> On 2011-12-25, Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Strange.  An LCD monitor only has one resolution.
>>>> Yep.  If this is your monitor:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.kdsusa.com/k22mdwb.asp
>>>>
>>>> 1680x1050 is the right and only resolution.
>>> I wasn't aware of that.  Can the viewed resolution be changed?  I
>>> can't see those high resolutions.  Currently, I'm at 1024x768 and am
>>> constantly having to zoom web pages.  I used to use 800x600 on 17"
>>> CRTs, but this CRT is a 19".
>>>
>>> nb
>>>
>> ther is a way in Windows to essentially 'make everything bigger' at the 
>> software level rather than hardware.
>>
>> I think you change DPI rather than screen resolution and everything 
>> appears ..bigger - but the LCD is still running at native resolution..
> 
> If using firefox, get the Nosquint plugin/extension from the mozilla
> website.  It defaults to 120% but can be set to any increase from 120%
> to very much higher, perhaps 200%; can also set the preferred zoom
> for any particular website.  Nosquint also can just zoom the text
> only instead of the webpage.
> 
Firefox will zoom the whole shebang with no plugin needed..Crtl + does 
it usually


Most programs have zoom capability.

The desktop and screen generally will zoom with the DPI setting on the 
screen advanced general settings..


There is no reason NOT to set the LCD to native: do that then tweak 
everything else top taste.

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#955

Fromanotherpaul <file-box02@no-hotmail.com.invalid>
Date2011-12-26 02:24 +0000
Message-ID<jd8ls8$a51$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#954
On 2011-12-25, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> anotherpaul wrote:
>> On 2011-12-25, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>> notbob wrote:
>>>> On 2011-12-25, Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Strange.  An LCD monitor only has one resolution.
>>>>> Yep.  If this is your monitor:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.kdsusa.com/k22mdwb.asp
>>>>>
>>>>> 1680x1050 is the right and only resolution.
>>>> I wasn't aware of that.  Can the viewed resolution be changed?  I
>>>> can't see those high resolutions.  Currently, I'm at 1024x768 and am
>>>> constantly having to zoom web pages.  I used to use 800x600 on 17"
>>>> CRTs, but this CRT is a 19".
>>>>
>>>> nb
>>>>
>>> ther is a way in Windows to essentially 'make everything bigger' at the 
>>> software level rather than hardware.
>>>
>>> I think you change DPI rather than screen resolution and everything 
>>> appears ..bigger - but the LCD is still running at native resolution..
>> 
>> If using firefox, get the Nosquint plugin/extension from the mozilla
>> website.  It defaults to 120% but can be set to any increase from 120%
>> to very much higher, perhaps 200%; can also set the preferred zoom
>> for any particular website.  Nosquint also can just zoom the text
>> only instead of the webpage.
>> 
> Firefox will zoom the whole shebang with no plugin needed..Crtl + does 
> it usually

The zoom isn't fine enough as the zoom is done at a preset value; even
Firefox has the ctrl + which doesn't do a decent job all the time.
Safari & Chrome also have the ctrl + & still doesn't do what I want
& just changing font sizes get overlaps & disappearing text at some
sites.

Well, to each their own preferences;  I prefer the tighter control I 
have with Nosquint.

>
>
> Most programs have zoom capability.
>
> The desktop and screen generally will zoom with the DPI setting on the 
> screen advanced general settings..

Have done that & it isn't adquate enough for me.
The choice is in the user's domain & how bad is the eyesight.

>
>
> There is no reason NOT to set the LCD to native: do that then tweak 
> everything else top taste.

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#960

FromJerry Peters <jerry@example.invalid>
Date2011-12-26 21:53 +0000
Message-ID<jdaqd5$sai$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#955
In comp.os.linux.misc anotherpaul <file-box02@no-hotmail.com.invalid> wrote:
> On 2011-12-25, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>> anotherpaul wrote:
>>> On 2011-12-25, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>>> notbob wrote:
>>>>> On 2011-12-25, Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Strange.  An LCD monitor only has one resolution.
>>>>>> Yep.  If this is your monitor:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.kdsusa.com/k22mdwb.asp
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1680x1050 is the right and only resolution.
>>>>> I wasn't aware of that.  Can the viewed resolution be changed?  I
>>>>> can't see those high resolutions.  Currently, I'm at 1024x768 and am
>>>>> constantly having to zoom web pages.  I used to use 800x600 on 17"
>>>>> CRTs, but this CRT is a 19".
>>>>>
>>>>> nb
>>>>>
>>>> ther is a way in Windows to essentially 'make everything bigger' at the 
>>>> software level rather than hardware.
>>>>
>>>> I think you change DPI rather than screen resolution and everything 
>>>> appears ..bigger - but the LCD is still running at native resolution..
>>> 
>>> If using firefox, get the Nosquint plugin/extension from the mozilla
>>> website.  It defaults to 120% but can be set to any increase from 120%
>>> to very much higher, perhaps 200%; can also set the preferred zoom
>>> for any particular website.  Nosquint also can just zoom the text
>>> only instead of the webpage.
>>> 
>> Firefox will zoom the whole shebang with no plugin needed..Crtl + does 
>> it usually
> 
> The zoom isn't fine enough as the zoom is done at a preset value; even
> Firefox has the ctrl + which doesn't do a decent job all the time.
> Safari & Chrome also have the ctrl + & still doesn't do what I want
> & just changing font sizes get overlaps & disappearing text at some
> sites.
> 
> Well, to each their own preferences;  I prefer the tighter control I 
> have with Nosquint.

Ctrl mousewheel has finer gradations than C+/C-. I normally use it in
preference to the C+/- variants.

Another useful hint: View -> Page Style -> No Style will eliminate
colors, especially useful on pages where there's a fg/bg combination
that's difficult to read. 

	Jerry

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#956

FromBit Twister <BitTwister@mouse-potato.com>
Date2011-12-26 11:35 +0000
Message-ID<slrnjfgmvk.m2i.BitTwister@wb.home.test>
In reply to#953
On Sun, 25 Dec 2011 21:41:47 +0000 (UTC), anotherpaul wrote:
>
> If using firefox, get the Nosquint plugin/extension from the mozilla
> website.  

I had no need for a plugin. I looked around in settings and under
Preferences->Content Advanced button, I found I could set the minimum font size.

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#957

Fromanotherpaul <file-box02@no-hotmail.com.invalid>
Date2011-12-26 17:16 +0000
Message-ID<jdaa65$893$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#956
On 2011-12-26, Bit Twister <BitTwister@mouse-potato.com> wrote:
> On Sun, 25 Dec 2011 21:41:47 +0000 (UTC), anotherpaul wrote:
>>
>> If using firefox, get the Nosquint plugin/extension from the mozilla
>> website.  
>
> I had no need for a plugin. I looked around in settings and under
> Preferences->Content Advanced button, I found I could set the minimum font size.

My standard procedure for any browser that I try.  Don't think
I missed too many ways of changing the font sizing.  I was even
bitching about win7 until I found that the method of changing the
system font was changed from winxp & references to it were hidden.

Still doing the min font size even when using nosquint.  Then the
minimum font sizing don't work on a Mac & not all what a browser
displays is controlled by the font size in the browser.  e.g. the
menu toolbar is controlled by the system font & can't be changed
by the browser.

At least in windows, there is a way to change fonts & sizes for
different parts of the panels & a separate font/sizing for the
desktop icons.  Apple wants the user to do things the Apple
way in lowering the resolution of a hi-rez monitor to see larger
fonts.

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#958

FromTJ <TJ@noneofyour.business>
Date2011-12-26 12:53 -0500
Message-ID<jdacaq$jfm$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#953
On 12/25/2011 04:41 PM, anotherpaul wrote:
> On 2011-12-25, The Natural Philosopher<tnp@invalid.invalid>  wrote:
>> notbob wrote:
>>> On 2011-12-25, Dan Espen<despen@verizon.net>  wrote:
>>>
>>>> Strange.  An LCD monitor only has one resolution.
>>>> Yep.  If this is your monitor:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.kdsusa.com/k22mdwb.asp
>>>>
>>>> 1680x1050 is the right and only resolution.
>>>
>>> I wasn't aware of that.  Can the viewed resolution be changed?  I
>>> can't see those high resolutions.  Currently, I'm at 1024x768 and am
>>> constantly having to zoom web pages.  I used to use 800x600 on 17"
>>> CRTs, but this CRT is a 19".
>>>
>>> nb
>>>
>> ther is a way in Windows to essentially 'make everything bigger' at the
>> software level rather than hardware.
>>
>> I think you change DPI rather than screen resolution and everything
>> appears ..bigger - but the LCD is still running at native resolution..
>
> If using firefox, get the Nosquint plugin/extension from the mozilla
> website.  It defaults to 120% but can be set to any increase from 120%
> to very much higher, perhaps 200%; can also set the preferred zoom
> for any particular website.  Nosquint also can just zoom the text
> only instead of the webpage.
>
> A boon for my eyesight!  Separate versions available for windows&
> linux.  Doesn't work for the desktop where one has to adjust it via
> kde's config or gnome's comparable method.
>
> The kde people did away the ability to adjust the default font size
> beginning with what came with suse 11.3.  It worked like the stupid
> apple crap with no system font adjustments allowed, at least since
> 2004.  At least with the opensuse 12.1, the kde version had increased
> the system font size to quite readable on a 22" monitor.

With KDE 4.x in Mandrivas before 2011 and Mageia, KDE system fonts and 
sizes can be changed via System Settings. The same may be true of 
Mandriva 2011 - I haven't tried it.

I use the Theme Font and Size Changer extension with Firefox and 
Thunderbird to change menu and dialog box fonts. For display fonts I 
usually just use Ctrl+ to temporarily magnify the whole thing, because I 
usually want the graphics bigger in that case, too.

TJ

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#946

Fromphilo <philo@invalid.not>
Date2011-12-25 09:30 -0600
Message-ID<jd7fic$a2r$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#944
On 12/25/2011 09:00 AM, Dan Espen wrote:
> philo<philo@invalid.not>  writes:
>
>> On 12/24/2011 04:44 PM, TJ wrote:
>>> On 12/24/2011 04:36 PM, notbob wrote:
>>>> I need a new monitor, my last CRT be a'dying. I will cave and buy a
>>>> new LCD. My question is, how are the NEC LCD monitors. I know that
>>>> the older NEC CRT monitors were "brighter" than other monitors. As a
>>>> geezer with marginal eyesight, this is important. Does that still
>>>> apply to NEC LCD monitors? I'll probably be going min 20" or larger.
>>>> I use Slackware. Don't see any compatibility issues. Should I? Any
>>>> other suggested choices welcome. Thank you and Merry Christmas. ;)
>>>>
>>>> nb
>>>>
>>> At 62, by some folks' reckoning I qualify for geezerhood, and while it's
>>> still pretty good my eyesight isn't what it was 30 years ago, either.
>>>
>>

<snip>

> Strange.  An LCD monitor only has one resolution.
> Yep.  If this is your monitor:
>
> http://www.kdsusa.com/k22mdwb.asp
>
> 1680x1050 is the right and only resolution.


Aha!  So it's right on the money and from Linux it was set correctly 
then. XP , by default had it set to 1440 x900 and I guess I assumed that 
was the native resolution. Thanks for the correction
>
>> Now , as to being 62.
>>
>> I was at a Christmas party last night and one of the first things
>> someone asked me was "Are you retired?"
>>
>> The answer is "NO"
>
> 66.  Expect to work at least to age 70.
> Full time from home and summers off isn't that hard after all.
>

I plan to keep my full time job until I'm 65 or 66...
but hardly expect to quit working.
I do a lot of volunteer work and will increase that
plus I have more personal projects to complete than I can count.
Hopefully I'll still be at work until I'm 99 years old

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#939

FromJ G Miller <miller@yoyo.ORG>
Date2011-12-25 01:26 +0000
Message-ID<jd5u4f$99n$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#936
On Saturday, December 24th, 2011, at 21:36:17h +0000, Not BoB wrote:

> I need a new monitor, my last CRT be a'dying.

To get a good comparison of many monitor models (but not all)
have a look at reviews at

<http://www.lesnumeriques.COM/moniteur-ecran-lcd/guide-achat-meilleurs-moniteurs-ecrans-lcd-a899.html>

including side by side comparisons of monitor images.

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