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Monitor Resolution

Started byJohnny <johnny@invalid.net>
First post2014-12-15 11:21 -0600
Last post2014-12-16 19:40 +0000
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  Monitor Resolution Johnny <johnny@invalid.net> - 2014-12-15 11:21 -0600
    Re: Monitor Resolution Bit Twister <BitTwister@mouse-potato.com> - 2014-12-15 18:07 +0000
      Re: Monitor Resolution Johnny <johnny@invalid.net> - 2014-12-15 13:21 -0600
        Re: Monitor Resolution Bit Twister <BitTwister@mouse-potato.com> - 2014-12-15 20:50 +0000
          Re: Monitor Resolution Johnny <johnny@invalid.net> - 2014-12-15 15:18 -0600
            Re: Monitor Resolution Bit Twister <BitTwister@mouse-potato.com> - 2014-12-15 22:11 +0000
    Re: Monitor Resolution Jens Stuckelberger <Jens_Stuckelberger@nowhere.net> - 2014-12-15 22:01 +0000
    Re: Monitor Resolution Adrian Caspersz <email@here.invalid> - 2014-12-16 19:40 +0000

#2644 — Monitor Resolution

FromJohnny <johnny@invalid.net>
Date2014-12-15 11:21 -0600
SubjectMonitor Resolution
Message-ID<20141215112100.0bfc4004@johnnyspc.johnnyspc.net>
The recommended resolution for my monitor is 1366x768 (16:9).  I have
about twenty websites that I visit regularly, and only one of them is
full screen at that resolution.  I have noticed that Claws Mail is also
full screen, and all the Firefox preference pages are full screen.

The question is, why does usatoday.com show full screen, and cnn.com and
foxnews.com have wasted space on both side of the screen?  Are the
websites not capable of using that resolution, or is it a setting on my
computer that is causing me not to be able to use the recommended
resolution?

In order for the websites to fill the screen, I have to use 1024x768.

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#2645

FromBit Twister <BitTwister@mouse-potato.com>
Date2014-12-15 18:07 +0000
Message-ID<slrnm8u8se.av1.BitTwister@wb.home.test>
In reply to#2644
On Mon, 15 Dec 2014 11:21:00 -0600, Johnny wrote:
>
> The recommended resolution for my monitor is 1366x768 (16:9).

Mine is 1280x1024 

>  I have
> about twenty websites that I visit regularly, and only one of them is
> full screen at that resolution.  I have noticed that Claws Mail is also
> full screen, and all the Firefox preference pages are full screen.
>
> The question is, why does usatoday.com show full screen, and cnn.com and
> foxnews.com have wasted space on both side of the screen?

My WAG would be default font/size setting. I checked your sites and
was able to stretch firefox screen size to see wasted space mid web page
and left/right margins on all sites.

>  Are the websites not capable of using that resolution, or is it a
> setting on my computer that is causing me not to be able to use the
> recommended resolution?

I do agree some sites were better at stretching content to keep
content filling screen.

In firefox->Edit->Preferences->Content write down your settings, and
try mine.

Default font: serif  Size: 14   Click the Advanced.... button and set
Size: 14 for both boxes and set Minimum font size: 14

The only other difference, I have desktop shortcut icons all around my
desktop and I have firefox sized  (1125x820) to leave about 3 quarters
of an inch all around it so I can click any shortcut.

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#2646

FromJohnny <johnny@invalid.net>
Date2014-12-15 13:21 -0600
Message-ID<20141215132100.005c874f@johnnyspc.johnnyspc.net>
In reply to#2645
On Mon, 15 Dec 2014 18:07:54 +0000 (UTC)
Bit Twister <BitTwister@mouse-potato.com> wrote:

> On Mon, 15 Dec 2014 11:21:00 -0600, Johnny wrote:
> >
> > The recommended resolution for my monitor is 1366x768 (16:9).
> 
> Mine is 1280x1024 
> 
> >  I have
> > about twenty websites that I visit regularly, and only one of them
> > is full screen at that resolution.  I have noticed that Claws Mail
> > is also full screen, and all the Firefox preference pages are full
> > screen.
> >
> > The question is, why does usatoday.com show full screen, and
> > cnn.com and foxnews.com have wasted space on both side of the
> > screen?
> 
> My WAG would be default font/size setting. I checked your sites and
> was able to stretch firefox screen size to see wasted space mid web
> page and left/right margins on all sites.
> 
> >  Are the websites not capable of using that resolution, or is it a
> > setting on my computer that is causing me not to be able to use the
> > recommended resolution?
> 
> I do agree some sites were better at stretching content to keep
> content filling screen.
> 
> In firefox->Edit->Preferences->Content write down your settings, and
> try mine.
> 
> Default font: serif  Size: 14   Click the Advanced.... button and set
> Size: 14 for both boxes and set Minimum font size: 14

That's what I have mine set at, and I removed the check from the box
that says let sites choose their own font size.

I think Display Resolution is a confusing term.  It looks like the
pixels per inch stay the same, whether the Display is set at 1366x768
or 1024x768.  Higher resolution allows you to see more content on a
screen without scrolling, so if I have my screen set at 1024x768 and
can see all content without scrolling horizontally, I don't need the
recommended resolution.

> 
> The only other difference, I have desktop shortcut icons all around my
> desktop and I have firefox sized  (1125x820) to leave about 3 quarters
> of an inch all around it so I can click any shortcut.

How did you set Firefox to that size?

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#2647

FromBit Twister <BitTwister@mouse-potato.com>
Date2014-12-15 20:50 +0000
Message-ID<slrnm8uidq.rjl.BitTwister@wb.home.test>
In reply to#2646
On Mon, 15 Dec 2014 13:21:00 -0600, Johnny wrote:
> Bit Twister <BitTwister@mouse-potato.com> wrote:
>> 
>> The only other difference, I have desktop shortcut icons all around my
>> desktop and I have firefox sized  (1125x820) to leave about 3 quarters
>> of an inch all around it so I can click any shortcut.
>
> How did you set Firefox to that size?

Usually there are three icons top right in the title bar.
Actual icon depends on desktop theme.
There is a minimize, maximize/resize and kill icon.

If you launch Firefox and it goes full screen, then maybe clicking
second icon after minimize icon will get you the re-size icon.
At that time you can grab the corner and size firefox to whatever you
desire.

When you close Firefox, it may save the re-sized setting. Then again
no idea if it is going to work in your setup.
Everything I do at the terminal is via xterm.

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#2648

FromJohnny <johnny@invalid.net>
Date2014-12-15 15:18 -0600
Message-ID<20141215151825.53269fb5@johnnyspc.johnnyspc.net>
In reply to#2647
On Mon, 15 Dec 2014 20:50:46 +0000 (UTC)
Bit Twister <BitTwister@mouse-potato.com> wrote:

> On Mon, 15 Dec 2014 13:21:00 -0600, Johnny wrote:
> > Bit Twister <BitTwister@mouse-potato.com> wrote:
> >> 
> >> The only other difference, I have desktop shortcut icons all
> >> around my desktop and I have firefox sized  (1125x820) to leave
> >> about 3 quarters of an inch all around it so I can click any
> >> shortcut.
> >
> > How did you set Firefox to that size?
> 
> Usually there are three icons top right in the title bar.
> Actual icon depends on desktop theme.
> There is a minimize, maximize/resize and kill icon.
> 
> If you launch Firefox and it goes full screen, then maybe clicking
> second icon after minimize icon will get you the re-size icon.
> At that time you can grab the corner and size firefox to whatever you
> desire.
> 
> When you close Firefox, it may save the re-sized setting. Then again
> no idea if it is going to work in your setup.
> Everything I do at the terminal is via xterm.

That's good to know, it did remember the size, but not the position.  

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#2650

FromBit Twister <BitTwister@mouse-potato.com>
Date2014-12-15 22:11 +0000
Message-ID<slrnm8un59.115.BitTwister@wb.home.test>
In reply to#2648
On Mon, 15 Dec 2014 15:18:25 -0600, Johnny wrote:
> Bit Twister <BitTwister@mouse-potato.com> wrote:
>
>> When you close Firefox, it may save the re-sized setting. Then again
>> no idea if it is going to work in your setup.
>> Everything I do at the terminal is via xterm.
>
> That's good to know, it did remember the size, but not the position.  


Yup, in the past you could supply Firefox the geometry with the -geom switch.

I am running KDE desktop manager and have set window placement as smart.
That feature/setting makes KDE try to place the window in an unused place.

So, I write a script to put xterms in the place where I do not want
the application window, wait for application launch, then kill the xterms.

small chopped down script snippet follows:

#!/bin/bash
    _app=$(basename $0)
    _user=$USER
    _delay=4
    _geom="400+700"
    _xtitle=${_app}_$_user

      xterm -title "$_xtitle left edge" -geom 4x14+0+100 &
      xterm -title "$_xtitle bottom right" -geom 14x4+$_geom &
      xterm -title "$_xtitle top edge" -geom 5x2-10+90  &
      sleep 2

      sleep $_delay     # give application time to create user window.
                        # then remove centering xterms

      pkill -f "title $_xtitle" > /dev/null

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#2649

FromJens Stuckelberger <Jens_Stuckelberger@nowhere.net>
Date2014-12-15 22:01 +0000
Message-ID<m6nlnb$sl2$2@news.albasani.net>
In reply to#2644
On Mon, 15 Dec 2014 11:21:00 -0600, Johnny wrote:

> The recommended resolution for my monitor is 1366x768 (16:9).  I have
> about twenty websites that I visit regularly, and only one of them is
> full screen at that resolution.  I have noticed that Claws Mail is also
> full screen, and all the Firefox preference pages are full screen.
> 
> The question is, why does usatoday.com show full screen, and cnn.com and
> foxnews.com have wasted space on both side of the screen? 

	Because the latter were implemented by stupid developers?

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#2651

FromAdrian Caspersz <email@here.invalid>
Date2014-12-16 19:40 +0000
Message-ID<cfbg4qFj8ivU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#2644
On 15/12/14 17:21, Johnny wrote:
>
> The recommended resolution for my monitor is 1366x768 (16:9).  I have
> about twenty websites that I visit regularly, and only one of them is
> full screen at that resolution.  I have noticed that Claws Mail is also
> full screen, and all the Firefox preference pages are full screen.

If you read that many websites rather than watch films, if you can - 
flip the monitor to portrait. Scrolling through content 768 pixels at a 
time would drive me nuts!

>
> The question is, why does usatoday.com show full screen, and cnn.com and
> foxnews.com have wasted space on both side of the screen?  Are the
> websites not capable of using that resolution, or is it a setting on my
> computer that is causing me not to be able to use the recommended
> resolution?
>
> In order for the websites to fill the screen, I have to use 1024x768.

Or why not open another application to fill the space. An RSS reader?

-- 
Adrian C

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