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Re: Re (2): HOW2 transition from IDE to <new ones>?

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no.top.post@gmail.com wrote:
> In article <jp6hcg$f38$1@dont-email.me>, Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> wrote: 
> 
>> On 05/18/2012 12:28 PM, no.top.post@gmail.com wrote:
>>> I've been using IDE hard-disks since the 90s.
>>> Now this netbook shows /dev/sda1,2,3,4.
>>> I've read that these new-ones are better&  cheaper.
>>> But the value in not in the hardware. it's in the contents,
>>> and we must keep our valuable data - with continuity.
>>>
>>> So can you have a BIG new-disk and say-2 IDEs on the
>>> same old/2005 PC?
>>>
>>> == TIA
>>>
>> 	What hardware might you have already?
>> 	Same/old 2005 PC defines no important parameters
>> of the machine aside from age.
>>
> All the PCs that I have access to [except a netbook, which I don't
> intend to open up] have 2   40-pin sockets for master/slave IDE
> drive cables.
> 
> Can such MOBOs accomodate the new type; perhaps with a
> <plug in>?
> I can't believe that when the new drives came out, users had
> to just discard their existing PCs.
> 

Some examples of adapters. I own the first one, and it has a jumper
for master/slave. The picture gallery for the first one, shows the PCB
has a slightly different layout now, and the jumper is three position master/slave/cable_select.
Note - this plugs directly into the back of the SATA hard drive. And
allows two drives to be connected to a single ribbon cable.

http://ca.startech.com/HDD/Adapters/25in-and-35in-40-Pin-Male-IDE-to-SATA-Adapter-Converter~IDE2SAT

This is for a 2.5" SATA drive. Based on the pictures, I think this plugs right
into the motherboard header, limiting SATA drives to one SATA drive
per motherboard IDE header. There is no master/slave jumper that I can see.
The adapter sits on top of the motherboard, then the red data cable runs
over to the SATA hard drive. The user must provide a 15 pin power cable to
run over to the SATA drive, to power it. So this solution isn't the same
as the previous one, in terms of infrastructure.

http://ca.startech.com/HDD/Adapters/40-Pin-Female-IDE-to-SATA-Adapter-Converter~IDE2SAT25

The problem with the adapters is size. Those would work in a desktop computer,
because there would be room for them. A netbook isn't going to have room
for assemblies like that.

Adapter chips have been available for some time. In fact, the first SATA
hard drives, used an adapter chip on the disk drive controller board,
to convert a native IDE controller board, into SATA. It took a year or so,
before true native SATA drives were made (where the controller board
no longer used an adapter).

The adapter chips are available in SATA to IDE and IDE to SATA. When
purchasing, you have to be extra careful, to determine you're buying
the correct direction. Sometimes the pictures provide a hint as to
what the device may be. A lot of those adapters, don't come with a manual,
and the Startech one could have used an extra picture or two. The picture
gallery on the web site, helps to some extent.

The adapter is relatively transparent to software. No driver is needed.
(I didn't install a driver to use it.)

   Paul

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HOW2 transition from IDE to <new ones>? no.top.post@gmail.com - 2012-05-18 19:28 +0000
  Re: HOW2 transition from IDE to <new ones>? Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2012-05-18 15:10 -0700
    Re (2): HOW2 transition from IDE to <new ones>? no.top.post@gmail.com - 2012-05-19 14:23 +0000
      Re: Re (2): HOW2 transition from IDE to <new ones>? Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2012-05-19 08:08 -0700
      Re: Re (2): HOW2 transition from IDE to <new ones>? Paul <nospam@needed.com> - 2012-05-19 11:50 -0400
      Re: Re (2): HOW2 transition from IDE to <new ones>? Kevin Snodgrass <kdsnodgrass@yahoo.com> - 2012-05-20 21:22 +0000
      Re: Re (2): HOW2 transition from IDE to <new ones>? Gordon <Gordon@clear.net.nz> - 2012-05-22 05:41 +0000
  Re: HOW2 transition from IDE to <new ones>? terryc <newsninespam-spam@woa.com.au> - 2012-05-21 11:01 +1000
  Re: HOW2 transition from IDE to <new ones>? Danno <WhoaBaby@MySecretPlace.org> - 2012-05-20 22:19 -0600
  Re: HOW2 transition from IDE to <new ones>? john connolly <wconn@kc.rr.com> - 2012-05-22 21:03 +0000

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