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Re: "Failed SMART usage Attribute: 9 Power_On_Hours."?

From "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.hardware, comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage, alt.comp.periphs.hdd
Subject Re: "Failed SMART usage Attribute: 9 Power_On_Hours."?
Date 2011-11-07 06:33 +1100
Message-ID <9ho5nsFk5tU1@mid.individual.net> (permalink)
References <L-6dnVJjDMsKtivTnZ2dnUVZ_r0AAAAA@earthlink.com>

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Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote

> Hi.

Lo.

> Is this error something to worry about quickly

Nope, its an ancient drive which is still working fine.

> (will have to buy a new HDD if it is urgent. but they are expensive due to Thailand's flood :()?

Thats varied significantly world wide. Mine havent
even gone up 10% for some reason, 2TB samsungs
and the cheapest 3TB drives around.

> Date: Sat, 05 Nov 2011 22:58:13 -0700
> From: root
> To: root
> Subject: SMART error (Usage) detected on host: FooBar

> This email was generated by the smartd daemon running on:

>    host name: FooBar
>   DNS domain: localdomain
>   NIS domain: (none)

> The following warning/error was logged by the smartd daemon:

> Device: /dev/sdb [SAT], Failed SMART usage Attribute: 9 Power_On_Hours.

Thats just a fancy way of saying that its a VERY old drive.

Havent seen a fireball in a FUCKING long time now.

> For details see host's SYSLOG.

> You can also use the smartctl utility for further investigation.
> Another email message will be sent in 24 hours if the problem persists.

> Syslog showed:
> # cat /var/log/syslog |grep smart
> Nov  5 13:04:35 FooBar smartd[2815]: Device: /dev/sda [SAT], SMART Prefailure Attribute: 1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate changed 
> from 58 to 57
> Nov  5 13:04:35 FooBar smartd[2815]: Device: /dev/sda [SAT], SMART Usage Attribute: 194 Temperature_Celsius changed 
> from 36 to 35
> Nov  5 13:04:35 FooBar smartd[2815]: Device: /dev/sda [SAT], SMART Usage Attribute: 195 Hardware_ECC_Recovered changed 
> from 58 to 57
> Nov  5 13:28:09 FooBar smartd[2784]: smartd 5.41 2011-06-09 r3365 [i686-linux-2.6.32-5-686] (local build)
> Nov  5 13:28:09 FooBar smartd[2784]: Copyright (C) 2002-11 by Bruce Allen, http://smartmontools.sourceforge.net
> Nov  5 13:28:09 FooBar smartd[2784]: Opened configuration file /etc/smartd.conf
> Nov  5 13:28:09 FooBar smartd[2784]: Drive: DEVICESCAN, implied '-a' Directive on line 21 of file /etc/smartd.conf
> Nov  5 13:28:09 FooBar smartd[2784]: Configuration file /etc/smartd.conf was parsed, found DEVICESCAN, scanning 
> devices
> Nov  5 13:28:09 FooBar smartd[2784]: Device: /dev/sda, type changed from 'scsi' to 'sat'
> Nov  5 13:28:09 FooBar smartd[2784]: Device: /dev/sda [SAT], opened
> Nov  5 13:28:09 FooBar smartd[2784]: Device: /dev/sda [SAT], ST380011A, S/N:4JV5P7LN, FW:8.01, 80.0 GB
> Nov  5 13:28:09 FooBar smartd[2784]: Device: /dev/sda [SAT], found in smartd database.
> Nov  5 13:28:10 FooBar smartd[2784]: Device: /dev/sda [SAT], is SMART capable. Adding to "monitor" list.
> Nov  5 13:28:10 FooBar smartd[2784]: Device: /dev/sda [SAT], state read from 
> /var/lib/smartmontools/smartd.ST380011A-4JV5P7LN.ata.state
> Nov  5 13:28:10 FooBar smartd[2784]: Device: /dev/sdb, type changed from 'scsi' to 'sat'
> Nov  5 13:28:10 FooBar smartd[2784]: Device: /dev/sdb [SAT], opened
> Nov  5 13:28:10 FooBar smartd[2784]: Device: /dev/sdb [SAT], QUANTUM FIREBALLP LM15, S/N:183006136328, FW:A35.0700, 
> 15.0 GB
> Nov  5 13:28:10 FooBar smartd[2784]: Device: /dev/sdb [SAT], found in smartd database.
> Nov  5 13:28:11 FooBar smartd[2784]: Device: /dev/sdb [SAT], is SMART capable. Adding to "monitor" list.
> Nov  5 13:28:11 FooBar smartd[2784]: Device: /dev/sdb [SAT], state read from 
> /var/lib/smartmontools/smartd.QUANTUM_FIREBALLP_LM15-183006136328.ata.state
> Nov  5 13:28:11 FooBar smartd[2784]: Monitoring 2 ATA and 0 SCSI devices
> Nov  5 13:28:11 FooBar smartd[2784]: Device: /dev/sda [SAT], SMART Usage Attribute: 194 Temperature_Celsius changed 
> from 35 to 36
> Nov  5 13:28:12 FooBar smartd[2784]: Device: /dev/sda [SAT], state written to 
> /var/lib/smartmontools/smartd.ST380011A-4JV5P7LN.ata.state
> Nov  5 13:28:12 FooBar smartd[2784]: Device: /dev/sdb [SAT], state written to 
> /var/lib/smartmontools/smartd.QUANTUM_FIREBALLP_LM15-183006136328.ata.state
> Nov  5 13:28:12 FooBar smartd[2786]: smartd has fork()ed into background mode. New PID=2786.
> Nov  5 13:28:12 FooBar smartd[2786]: file /var/run/smartd.pid written containing PID 2786
> Nov  5 14:28:13 FooBar smartd[2786]: Device: /dev/sda [SAT], SMART Usage Attribute: 194 Temperature_Celsius changed 
> from 36 to 34
> Nov  5 14:58:12 FooBar smartd[2786]: Device: /dev/sda [SAT], SMART Usage Attribute: 194 Temperature_Celsius changed 
> from 34 to 36
> Nov  5 15:28:12 FooBar smartd[2786]: Device: /dev/sda [SAT], SMART Usage Attribute: 194 Temperature_Celsius changed 
> from 36 to 37
> Nov  5 16:28:12 FooBar smartd[2786]: Device: /dev/sda [SAT], SMART Usage Attribute: 194 Temperature_Celsius changed 
> from 37 to 38
> Nov  5 16:58:12 FooBar smartd[2786]: Device: /dev/sda [SAT], SMART Usage Attribute: 194 Temperature_Celsius changed 
> from 38 to 35
> Nov  5 17:28:12 FooBar smartd[2786]: Device: /dev/sda [SAT], SMART Usage Attribute: 194 Temperature_Celsius changed 
> from 35 to 37
> Nov  5 18:58:13 FooBar smartd[2786]: Device: /dev/sda [SAT], SMART Usage Attribute: 194 Temperature_Celsius changed 
> from 37 to 38
> Nov  5 19:28:12 FooBar smartd[2786]: Device: /dev/sda [SAT], SMART Usage Attribute: 194 Temperature_Celsius changed 
> from 38 to 36
> Nov  5 20:28:12 FooBar smartd[2786]: Device: /dev/sda [SAT], SMART Usage Attribute: 9 Power_On_Hours changed from 44 
> to 43
> Nov  5 20:28:12 FooBar smartd[2786]: Device: /dev/sda [SAT], SMART Usage Attribute: 194 Temperature_Celsius changed 
> from 36 to 37
> Nov  5 22:58:13 FooBar smartd[2786]: Device: /dev/sdb [SAT], Failed SMART usage Attribute: 9 Power_On_Hours.
> Nov  5 22:58:13 FooBar smartd[2786]: Sending warning via /usr/share/smartmontools/smartd-runner to root ...
> Nov  5 22:58:13 FooBar smartd[2786]: Warning via /usr/share/smartmontools/smartd-runner to root: successful
> Nov  5 22:58:13 FooBar smartd[2786]: Device: /dev/sdb [SAT], SMART Usage Attribute: 9 Power_On_Hours changed from 2 to 
> 1

All of that is it just saying those values have changed. No big deal.

> This timing seems/appears to be related to my earlier reboot (did not power off) of this very old 2005's Debian box 
> due its yesterday's Kernel v2.6.32-5-686 upgrade (not version, just its package with fixes). I had no problems with 
> the reboot (but wasn't looking at its screen though).

I dont believe its significant.

> I ran its detail reports before doing an extended self-test:
> # smartctl -a /dev/sdb
> smartctl 5.41 2011-06-09 r3365 [i686-linux-2.6.32-5-686] (local build)
> Copyright (C) 2002-11 by Bruce Allen, http://smartmontools.sourceforge.net
>
> === START OF INFORMATION SECTION ===
> Model Family:     Quantum Fireball Plus LM
> Device Model:     QUANTUM FIREBALLP LM15
> Serial Number:    183006136328
> Firmware Version: A35.0700
> User Capacity:    15,020,457,984 bytes [15.0 GB]
> Sector Size:      512 bytes logical/physical
> Device is:        In smartctl database [for details use: -P show]
> ATA Version is:   5
> ATA Standard is:  ATA/ATAPI-5 T13 1321D revision 1
> Local Time is:    Sat Nov  5 23:05:31 2011 PDT
> SMART support is: Available - device has SMART capability.
> SMART support is: Enabled
>
> === START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION ===
> SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: PASSED
> See vendor-specific Attribute list for marginal Attributes.
>
> General SMART Values:
> Offline data collection status:  (0x80) Offline data collection activity
>                                         was never started.
>                                         Auto Offline Data Collection: Enabled.
> Self-test execution status:      (   0) The previous self-test routine completed
>                                         without error or no self-test has ever
>                                         been run.
> Total time to complete Offline
> data collection:                (   46) seconds.
> Offline data collection
> capabilities:                    (0x1b) SMART execute Offline immediate.
>                                         Auto Offline data collection on/off support.
>                                         Suspend Offline collection upon new
>                                         command.
>                                         Offline surface scan supported.
>                                         Self-test supported.
>                                         No Conveyance Self-test supported.
>                                         No Selective Self-test supported.
> SMART capabilities:            (0x0003) Saves SMART data before entering
>                                         power-saving mode.
>                                         Supports SMART auto save timer.
> Error logging capability:        (0x01) Error logging supported.
>                                         No General Purpose Logging support.
> Short self-test routine
> recommended polling time:        (   2) minutes.
> Extended self-test routine
> recommended polling time:        (  13) minutes.
>
> SMART Attributes Data Structure revision number: 11
> Vendor Specific SMART Attributes with Thresholds:
> ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME          FLAG     VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE UPDATED  WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE
>   1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate     0x0029   100   253   020    Pre-fail Offline      -       0
>   3 Spin_Up_Time            0x0027   078   063   020    Pre-fail Always       -       2828
>   4 Start_Stop_Count        0x0032   097   097   008    Old_age Always       -       2392
>   5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct   0x0033   100   100   020    Pre-fail Always       -       0
>   7 Seek_Error_Rate         0x000b   100   100   023    Pre-fail Always       -       0
>   9 Power_On_Hours          0x0012   001   001   001    Old_age Always   FAILING_NOW 64880
>  10 Spin_Retry_Count        0x0026   100   100   020    Old_age Always       -       0
>  11 Calibration_Retry_Count 0x0013   100   100   020    Pre-fail Always       -       0
>  12 Power_Cycle_Count       0x0032   097   097   008    Old_age Always       -       2278
>  13 Read_Soft_Error_Rate    0x000b   100   100   023    Pre-fail Always       -       0
> 199 UDMA_CRC_Error_Count    0x001a   200   200   000    Old_age   Always -       0
> 196 Reallocated_Event_Count 0x0010   100   100   020    Old_age Offline      -       0
> 197 Current_Pending_Sector  0x0032   100   100   020    Old_age   Always -       0
> 198 Offline_Uncorrectable   0x0010   100   253   000    Old_age Offline      -       0

Those are all fine.

> SMART Error Log Version: 0
> No Errors Logged
>
> SMART Self-test log structure revision number 0
> Warning: ATA Specification requires self-test log structure revision number = 1
> Num  Test_Description    Status                  Remaining LifeTime(hours)  LBA_of_first_error
> # 1  Extended offline    Completed without error       00%     63409 -
> # 2  Extended offline    Completed without error       00%     58068 -
> # 3  Extended offline    Completed without error       00%     54663 -
> # 4  Extended offline    Completed without error       00%     53303 -
> # 5  Extended offline    Completed without error       00%     46603 -
> # 6  Short offline       Completed without error       00%     15067 -
> # 7  Extended offline    Completed without error       00%     13222 -
> # 8  Short offline       Completed without error       00%     13218 -
> # 9  Short offline       Completed without error       00%      8391 -
> #10  Short offline       Completed without error       00%      8391 -
>
> Device does not support Selective Self Tests/Logging

> So I decided to run gsmartcontrol v5.41 (GUI version of smartctl) and it also marked Power_On_Hours as a problem.

Again, its just saying its a VERY old drive, no news.

> I ran a long test and it started with loud noises (a fan/motor or something spinning?) for about  30 seconds. That 
> doesn't sound good to me.

May just be the power supply fan.

> Anyways,  here is the report  after the long test which said no errors/problems:

> # smartctl -a /dev/sdb
> smartctl 5.41 2011-06-09 r3365 [i686-linux-2.6.32-5-686] (local build)
> Copyright (C) 2002-11 by Bruce Allen, http://smartmontools.sourceforge.net
>
> === START OF INFORMATION SECTION ===
> Model Family:     Quantum Fireball Plus LM
> Device Model:     QUANTUM FIREBALLP LM15
> Serial Number:    183006136328
> Firmware Version: A35.0700
> User Capacity:    15,020,457,984 bytes [15.0 GB]
> Sector Size:      512 bytes logical/physical
> Device is:        In smartctl database [for details use: -P show]
> ATA Version is:   5
> ATA Standard is:  ATA/ATAPI-5 T13 1321D revision 1
> Local Time is:    Sat Nov  5 23:36:57 2011 PDT
> SMART support is: Available - device has SMART capability.
> SMART support is: Enabled
>
> === START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION ===
> SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: PASSED
> See vendor-specific Attribute list for marginal Attributes.
>
> General SMART Values:
> Offline data collection status:  (0x80) Offline data collection activity
>                                         was never started.
>                                         Auto Offline Data Collection: Enabled.
> Self-test execution status:      (   0) The previous self-test routine completed
>                                         without error or no self-test has ever
>                                         been run.
> Total time to complete Offline
> data collection:                (   46) seconds.
> Offline data collection
> capabilities:                    (0x1b) SMART execute Offline immediate.
>                                         Auto Offline data collection on/off support.
>                                         Suspend Offline collection upon new
>                                         command.
>                                         Offline surface scan supported.
>                                         Self-test supported.
>                                         No Conveyance Self-test supported.
>                                         No Selective Self-test supported.
> SMART capabilities:            (0x0003) Saves SMART data before entering
>                                         power-saving mode.
>                                         Supports SMART auto save timer.
> Error logging capability:        (0x01) Error logging supported.
>                                         No General Purpose Logging support.
> Short self-test routine
> recommended polling time:        (   2) minutes.
> Extended self-test routine
> recommended polling time:        (  13) minutes.
>
> SMART Attributes Data Structure revision number: 11
> Vendor Specific SMART Attributes with Thresholds:
> ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME          FLAG     VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE UPDATED  WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE
>   1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate     0x0029   100   253   020    Pre-fail Offline      -       0
>   3 Spin_Up_Time            0x0027   078   063   020    Pre-fail Always       -       2828
>   4 Start_Stop_Count        0x0032   097   097   008    Old_age Always       -       2392
>   5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct   0x0033   100   100   020    Pre-fail Always       -       0
>   7 Seek_Error_Rate         0x000b   100   100   023    Pre-fail Always       -       0
>   9 Power_On_Hours          0x0012   001   001   001    Old_age Always   FAILING_NOW 64880
>  10 Spin_Retry_Count        0x0026   100   100   020    Old_age Always       -       0
>  11 Calibration_Retry_Count 0x0013   100   100   020    Pre-fail Always       -       0
>  12 Power_Cycle_Count       0x0032   097   097   008    Old_age Always       -       2278
>  13 Read_Soft_Error_Rate    0x000b   100   100   023    Pre-fail Always       -       0
> 199 UDMA_CRC_Error_Count    0x001a   200   200   000    Old_age   Always -       0
> 196 Reallocated_Event_Count 0x0010   100   100   020    Old_age Offline      -       0
> 197 Current_Pending_Sector  0x0032   100   100   020    Old_age   Always -       0
> 198 Offline_Uncorrectable   0x0010   100   253   000    Old_age Offline      -       0

Again, those are fine.

> SMART Error Log Version: 0
> No Errors Logged
>
> SMART Self-test log structure revision number 0
> Warning: ATA Specification requires self-test log structure revision number = 1
> Num  Test_Description    Status                  Remaining LifeTime(hours)  LBA_of_first_error
> # 1  Extended offline    Completed without error       00%     64880 -
> # 2  Extended offline    Completed without error       00%     63409 -
> # 3  Extended offline    Completed without error       00%     58068 -
> # 4  Extended offline    Completed without error       00%     54663 -
> # 5  Extended offline    Completed without error       00%     53303 -
> # 6  Extended offline    Completed without error       00%     46603 -
> # 7  Short offline       Completed without error       00%     15067 -
> # 8  Extended offline    Completed without error       00%     13222 -
> # 9  Short offline       Completed without error       00%     13218 -
> #10  Short offline       Completed without error       00%      8391 -
> #11  Short offline       Completed without error       00%      8391 -

> Device does not support Selective Self Tests/Logging

> Thank you in advance. :)

Still smirking. 

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"Failed SMART usage Attribute: 9 Power_On_Hours."? Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> - 2011-11-05 23:39 -0700
  Re: "Failed SMART usage Attribute: 9 Power_On_Hours."? Arno <me@privacy.net> - 2011-11-06 12:04 +0000
    Re: "Failed SMART usage Attribute: 9 Power_On_Hours."? Christian Franke <Christian.Franke@t-online.de> - 2011-11-06 18:54 +0100
      Re: "Failed SMART usage Attribute: 9 Power_On_Hours."? ANTant@zimage.com (Ant) - 2011-11-07 14:13 -0600
        Re: "Failed SMART usage Attribute: 9 Power_On_Hours."? Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> - 2011-11-07 23:10 -0800
          Re: "Failed SMART usage Attribute: 9 Power_On_Hours."? Bill Marcum <bill@lat.localnet> - 2011-11-09 11:42 -0500
            Re: "Failed SMART usage Attribute: 9 Power_On_Hours."? Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> - 2011-11-10 06:36 -0800
  Re: "Failed SMART usage Attribute: 9 Power_On_Hours."? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2011-11-07 06:33 +1100
  Re: "Failed SMART usage Attribute: 9 Power_On_Hours."? (thanks!) Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> - 2011-11-06 12:19 -0800
  Re: "Failed SMART usage Attribute: 9 Power_On_Hours."? philo <philo@invalid.not> - 2011-11-06 20:40 -0600
    Re: "Failed SMART usage Attribute: 9 Power_On_Hours."? J G Miller <miller@yoyo.ORG> - 2011-11-07 12:57 +0000
    Re: "Failed SMART usage Attribute: 9 Power_On_Hours."? Winniethepooh@100acrewoods.org (GMAN) - 2011-11-07 15:26 +0000
      Re: "Failed SMART usage Attribute: 9 Power_On_Hours."? J G Miller <miller@yoyo.ORG> - 2011-11-07 15:32 +0000
        Re: "Failed SMART usage Attribute: 9 Power_On_Hours."? Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2011-11-07 07:39 -0800
          Re: "Failed SMART usage Attribute: 9 Power_On_Hours."? J G Miller <miller@yoyo.ORG> - 2011-11-07 16:17 +0000
            Re: "Failed SMART usage Attribute: 9 Power_On_Hours."? Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2011-11-07 08:33 -0800
            Re: "Failed SMART usage Attribute: 9 Power_On_Hours."? Kevin Snodgrass <kdsnodgrass@yahoo.com> - 2011-11-07 19:01 +0000
              Re: "Failed SMART usage Attribute: 9 Power_On_Hours."? J G Miller <miller@yoyo.ORG> - 2011-11-07 20:20 +0000
                Re: "Failed SMART usage Attribute: 9 Power_On_Hours."? ANTant@zimage.com (Ant) - 2011-11-07 14:27 -0600
                Re: "Failed SMART usage Attribute: 9 Power_On_Hours."? J G Miller <miller@yoyo.ORG> - 2011-11-08 10:17 +0000
                Re: "Failed SMART usage Attribute: 9 Power_On_Hours."? Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> - 2011-11-09 05:53 -0800
                Re: "Failed SMART usage Attribute: 9 Power_On_Hours."? J G Miller <miller@yoyo.ORG> - 2011-11-09 15:03 +0000
                Re: "Failed SMART usage Attribute: 9 Power_On_Hours."? Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> - 2011-11-10 06:30 -0800
            Re: "Failed SMART usage Attribute: 9 Power_On_Hours."? Winniethepooh@100acrewoods.org (GMAN) - 2011-11-07 19:30 +0000
      Re: "Failed SMART usage Attribute: 9 Power_On_Hours."? Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2011-11-07 07:37 -0800
    Re: "Failed SMART usage Attribute: 9 Power_On_Hours."? ANTant@zimage.com (Ant) - 2011-11-07 14:02 -0600

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