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If The US Gets Nuked It Will Be By............................

Started byJohn Smyth <smythlejon2@hotmail.com>
First post2025-03-18 19:30 -0400
Last post2025-03-20 23:16 +0000
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  If The US Gets Nuked It Will Be By............................ John Smyth <smythlejon2@hotmail.com> - 2025-03-18 19:30 -0400
    Re: If The US Gets Nuked It Will Be By............................ mike <mikehunt@webp.org> - 2025-03-19 08:58 +0000
      Re: If The US Gets Nuked It Will Be By............................ pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2025-03-19 13:11 +0000
        Re: If The US Gets Nuked It Will Be By............................ % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2025-03-19 06:41 -0700
        Re: If The US Gets Nuked It Will Be By............................ Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-03-19 11:03 -0700
          Re: If The US Gets Nuked It Will Be By............................ Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> - 2025-03-19 12:23 -0600
            Re: If The US Gets Nuked It Will Be By............................ pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2025-03-19 21:59 +0000
              Re: If The US Gets Nuked It Will Be By............................ Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-03-19 17:53 -0700
                Re: If The US Gets Nuked It Will Be By............................ Or Donkey <nobody@yamn.paranoici.org> - 2025-03-20 05:20 +0000
              Re: If The US Gets Nuked It Will Be By............................ Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-03-21 00:38 -0400
                Re: If The US Gets Nuked It Will Be By............................ pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2025-03-21 04:40 +0000
                  Re: If The US Gets Nuked It Will Be By............................ -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-03-21 14:21 -0400
                    Re: If The US Gets Nuked It Will Be By............................ Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-03-23 09:32 -0400
                      Re: If The US Gets Nuked It Will Be By............................ "dolen@antispam.duck" <dolen@uoregon.edu> - 2025-03-23 14:51 -0700
                  Re: If The US Gets Nuked It Will Be By............................ Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-03-23 09:31 -0400
                    Re: If The US Gets Nuked It Will Be By............................ "dolen@antispam.duck" <dolen@uoregon.edu> - 2025-03-23 14:48 -0700
          Re: If The US Gets Nuked It Will Be By............................ chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2025-03-19 18:35 -0500
            Re: If The US Gets Nuked It Will Be By............................ -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-03-19 20:34 -0400
              Re: If The US Gets Nuked It Will Be By............................ chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2025-03-21 06:35 -0500
            Re: If The US Gets Nuked It Will Be By............................ Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-03-19 17:57 -0700
            Re: If The US Gets Nuked It Will Be By............................ Barron Rump <x@y.com> - 2025-03-20 23:23 +0000
        Re: If The US Gets Nuked It Will Be By............................ Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-03-20 17:51 -0400
          Re: If The US Gets Nuked It Will Be By............................ pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2025-03-20 23:46 +0000
            Re: If The US Gets Nuked It Will Be By............................ Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-03-21 00:41 -0400
              Re: If The US Gets Nuked It Will Be By............................ pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2025-03-21 04:44 +0000
                Re: If The US Gets Nuked It Will Be By............................ Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-03-23 09:34 -0400
            Re: If The US Gets Nuked It Will Be By............................ chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2025-03-21 06:40 -0500
              Re: If The US Gets Nuked It Will Be By............................ Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-03-21 06:31 -0700
                Re: If The US Gets Nuked It Will Be By............................ chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2025-03-21 16:58 -0500
              Re: If The US Gets Nuked It Will Be By............................ Adison Vohn Caterson <Adison@Caterson.invalid> - 2025-03-21 22:45 +0000
                Re: If The US Gets Nuked It Will Be By............................ "Richard N. Bush" <rnb1986@amazon.com> - 2025-03-22 04:20 +0000
                  Re: If The US Gets Nuked It Will Be By............................ chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2025-03-22 04:42 -0500
                Re: If The US Gets Nuked It Will Be By............................ -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-03-22 09:10 -0400
                  Re: If The US Gets Nuked It Will Be By............................ chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2025-03-22 10:54 -0500
                    Re: If The US Gets Nuked It Will Be By............................ -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-03-22 13:47 -0400
                  Re: If The US Gets Nuked It Will Be By............................ Adison Vohn Caterson <Adison@Caterson.invalid> - 2025-03-22 22:32 +0000
                    Re: If The US Gets Nuked It Will Be By............................ Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-03-23 09:37 -0400
                      Re: If The US Gets Nuked It Will Be By............................ Adison Vohn Caterson <Adison@Caterson.invalid> - 2025-03-23 16:42 +0000
                        Re: If The US Gets Nuked It Will Be By............................ Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-03-24 22:13 -0400
                          Re: If The US Gets Nuked It Will Be By............................ Adison Vohn Caterson <Adison@Caterson.invalid> - 2025-03-29 17:26 +0000
                            Re: If The US Gets Nuked It Will Be By............................ Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-03-29 23:48 -0400
                              Re: If The US Gets Nuked It Will Be By............................ Adison Vohn Caterson <Adison@Caterson.invalid> - 2025-03-30 08:32 +0000
                                Re: If The US Gets Nuked It Will Be By............................ pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2025-03-30 12:57 +0000
                                  Re: If The US Gets Nuked It Will Be By............................ Adison Vohn Caterson <Adison@Caterson.invalid> - 2025-03-30 14:30 +0000
                                    Re: If The US Gets Nuked It Will Be By............................ Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2025-03-30 15:11 -0700
                                      Re: If The US Gets Nuked It Will Be By............................ Skeeter <none@none.com> - 2025-03-30 16:26 -0600
                                      Re: If The US Gets Nuked It Will Be By............................ Adison Vohn Caterson <Adison@Caterson.invalid> - 2025-03-30 22:37 +0000
                                        Re: If The US Gets Nuked It Will Be By............................ Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2025-03-30 18:07 -0700
                                          Re: If The US Gets Nuked It Will Be By............................ Adison Vohn Caterson <Adison@Caterson.invalid> - 2025-03-31 01:25 +0000
          Re: If The US Gets Nuked It Will Be By............................ Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-03-21 07:33 -0400
            Re: If The US Gets Nuked It Will Be By............................ Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-03-21 05:25 -0700
              Re: If The US Gets Nuked It Will Be By............................ Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-03-21 10:22 -0400
          Re: If The US Gets Nuked It Will Be By............................ "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2025-03-21 08:52 -0400
      Re: If The US Gets Nuked It Will Be By............................ Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-03-19 11:30 -0700
      Re: If The US Gets Nuked It Will Be By............................ Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-03-21 00:57 -0400
    Re: If The US Gets Nuked It Will Be By............................ Carey <x@y.com> - 2025-03-20 23:16 +0000

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#687708

FromBarron Rump <x@y.com>
Date2025-03-20 23:23 +0000
Message-ID<vri80m$8l9m$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#687659
>Siri Cruise wrote:
>
>>pothead wrote:
>>> It's ok for Joe Biden to fly illegals, some criminals for sure, into
>>> the USA but it's illegal for Trump to fly the criminals, gangbangers,
>>> nasty people out of the country in order to help protect the citizens.
>>> 
>>> Tell me how that makes sense.
>>
>>We know which laws idjt is violating. Which laws did Biden violate?
>
>You seem to think that illegal aliens have a right to be here.
>
>They don't.
>

Under trump we will have more enemies to fight.   Many americans will die for 
his cause.

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#687700

FromGovernor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com>
Date2025-03-20 17:51 -0400
Message-ID<3d3ptjp7gijdvn9huu7d7rtcmc149ie8qv@4ax.com>
In reply to#687645
On Wed, 19 Mar 2025 13:11:39 -0000 (UTC), pothead
<pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:

>It's ok for Joe Biden to fly illegals, some criminals for sure, into the USA
>but it's illegal for Trump to fly the criminals, gangbangers, nasty people
>out of the country in order to help protect the citizens.
>
>Tell me how that makes sense.

One obeyed the law, the other one didn't.  The problem isn't the
officeholder, it's the law.  Change it.

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#687709

Frompothead <pothead@snakebite.com>
Date2025-03-20 23:46 +0000
Message-ID<vri9c4$6a1t$12@dont-email.me>
In reply to#687700
On 2025-03-20, Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 19 Mar 2025 13:11:39 -0000 (UTC), pothead
><pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
>
>>It's ok for Joe Biden to fly illegals, some criminals for sure, into the USA
>>but it's illegal for Trump to fly the criminals, gangbangers, nasty people
>>out of the country in order to help protect the citizens.
>>
>>Tell me how that makes sense.
>
> One obeyed the law, the other one didn't.  The problem isn't the
> officeholder, it's the law.  Change it.
>
POTUS primary job is to follow the Constitution and the Constitution says
that POTUS is to protect the country from all enemies both foreign and domestic.

Biden did neither.



-- 
pothead
Filter Free For A While.

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#687722

FromGovernor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com>
Date2025-03-21 00:41 -0400
Message-ID<derptj53t7vfmoee72g1p0666n4tneltp8@4ax.com>
In reply to#687709
On Thu, 20 Mar 2025 23:46:12 -0000 (UTC), pothead
<pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:

>POTUS primary job is to follow the Constitution and the Constitution says
>that POTUS is to protect the country from all enemies both foreign and domestic.
>
>Biden did neither.

You have an opinion and an asshole.

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#687723

Frompothead <pothead@snakebite.com>
Date2025-03-21 04:44 +0000
Message-ID<vriqrn$qv2t$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#687722
On 2025-03-21, Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 20 Mar 2025 23:46:12 -0000 (UTC), pothead
><pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
>
>>POTUS primary job is to follow the Constitution and the Constitution says
>>that POTUS is to protect the country from all enemies both foreign and domestic.
>>
>>Biden did neither.
>
> You have an opinion and an asshole.

Sadly yea.
I do own an asshole.
That would be you.
I'm trying to unload you but nobody seems to want to take you. Even for free.



-- 
pothead
Filter Free For A While.

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#687862

FromGovernor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com>
Date2025-03-23 09:34 -0400
Message-ID<je30ujtsv5a63almhe064192ga747kq5oo@4ax.com>
In reply to#687723
On Fri, 21 Mar 2025 04:44:39 -0000 (UTC), pothead
<pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:

>On 2025-03-21, Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Thu, 20 Mar 2025 23:46:12 -0000 (UTC), pothead
>><pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
>>
>>>POTUS primary job is to follow the Constitution and the Constitution says
>>>that POTUS is to protect the country from all enemies both foreign and domestic.
>>>
>>>Biden did neither.
>>
>> You have an opinion and an asshole.
>
>Sadly yea.
>I do own an asshole.
>That would be you.
>I'm trying to unload you but nobody seems to want to take you. Even for free.

LOL!  You so cute when you losing!

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#687732

Fromchrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid>
Date2025-03-21 06:40 -0500
Message-ID<qrjqtj5dln4neiv2t15vhktjpoqes2o2m5@4ax.com>
In reply to#687709
pothead wrote:

> Governor Swill wrote:
>>
>> One obeyed the law, the other one didn't.  The problem isn't the
>> officeholder, it's the law.  Change it.
>>
>POTUS primary job is to follow the Constitution and the Constitution says
>that POTUS is to protect the country from all enemies both foreign and domestic.
>
>Biden did neither.

That POS Biden ignored the SCOTUS on student loan "forgiveness".
Fucking prick  hands-out money to idiots who take on ridiculous
amounts of debt to get a degree in gender studies or black history.
Where's the relief for the working stiff?

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#687735

FromSiri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com>
Date2025-03-21 06:31 -0700
Message-ID<vrjpnn$1lcjd$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#687732
chrisv wrote:
> That POS Biden ignored the SCOTUS on student loan "forgiveness".

So you are a complete and utter moron. Good to know.

-- 
Siri Seal of Disavowal #000-001. Disavowed. Denied.  @
'I desire mercy, not sacrifice.'                    /|\
The Church of the Holey Apple .signature 3.2        / \
of Discordian Mysteries. This post insults Islam. Mohamed

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#687766

Fromchrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid>
Date2025-03-21 16:58 -0500
Message-ID<p8ortj9pbkhecb5fm0co59b6rbnhu5smet@4ax.com>
In reply to#687735
Siri Cruise wrote:

>chrisv wrote:
>> That POS Biden ignored the SCOTUS on student loan "forgiveness".
>
>So you are a complete and utter moron. Good to know.

Idiot.

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#687767

FromAdison Vohn Caterson <Adison@Caterson.invalid>
Date2025-03-21 22:45 +0000
Message-ID<slrnvtrr02.2v9.Adison@localhost.localdomain>
In reply to#687732
On 2025-03-21, chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> pothead wrote:
>
>> Governor Swill wrote:
>>>
>>> One obeyed the law, the other one didn't.  The problem isn't the
>>> officeholder, it's the law.  Change it.
>>>
>>POTUS primary job is to follow the Constitution and the Constitution says
>>that POTUS is to protect the country from all enemies both foreign and domestic.
>>
>>Biden did neither.
>
> That POS Biden ignored the SCOTUS on student loan "forgiveness".
> Fucking prick  hands-out money to idiots who take on ridiculous
> amounts of debt to get a degree in gender studies or black history.
> Where's the relief for the working stiff?
>

That's irritating... how the fuck do you take taxpayer money to pay for
loans snowflakes never intended to pay back?

We live in stupid times.

And there is NO defending idiotic policies like this, the BORROWER
repays the LOAN... that's how that works.
The degree should be repossessed if the BORROWER defaults.
Not likey they use the degree anyway, else they'd PAY IT BACK :)

-- 
End Transmission

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#687779

From"Richard N. Bush" <rnb1986@amazon.com>
Date2025-03-22 04:20 +0000
Message-ID<vrldqj$e4c$4@toxic.dizum.net>
In reply to#687767
On 21 Mar 2025, Adison Vohn Caterson <Adison@Caterson.invalid> posted
some news:slrnvtrr02.2v9.Adison@localhost.localdomain: 

> On 2025-03-21, chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>> pothead wrote:
>>
>>> Governor Swill wrote:
>>>>
>>>> One obeyed the law, the other one didn't.  The problem isn't the
>>>> officeholder, it's the law.  Change it.
>>>>
>>>POTUS primary job is to follow the Constitution and the Constitution
>>>says that POTUS is to protect the country from all enemies both
>>>foreign and domestic. 
>>>
>>>Biden did neither.
>>
>> That POS Biden ignored the SCOTUS on student loan "forgiveness".
>> Fucking prick  hands-out money to idiots who take on ridiculous
>> amounts of debt to get a degree in gender studies or black history.
>> Where's the relief for the working stiff?
>>
> 
> That's irritating... how the fuck do you take taxpayer money to pay
> for loans snowflakes never intended to pay back?

Here's how that works.  

They get loan forgiveness.  They think, "OH JOY!"  "NO MORE PAYMENTS!"  
"YAY!"  "LET'S PARTY AND DO DRUGS!"

Then, they get a 1099 for the entire forgiven amount.  They gaff it off. 
One day the IRS garnishes their wages (Assuming they are working), and 
seizes their bank account (If they have one).

They freak and try to negotiate with the IRS.  The IRS will give them a 
fairly large break, but they must pay on a schedule.  Some will hunt down 
a tax debt outfit and get a little better deal, but the negotiators intend 
to get their money too.  Bankruptcy won't wipe student loan debt or tax 
debt.

Who has to make up the difference?  There's always a difference even when 
written off.  We working stiff tax payers pay for it.  

> We live in stupid times.
> 
> And there is NO defending idiotic policies like this, the BORROWER
> repays the LOAN... that's how that works.
> The degree should be repossessed if the BORROWER defaults.

I'd agree with that 100%.

> Not likey they use the degree anyway, else they'd PAY IT BACK :)

Most degrees are worthless these days anyway.  They don't prepare or 
motivate most to work.

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#687785

Fromchrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid>
Date2025-03-22 04:42 -0500
Message-ID<do0ttjthec7n47k4u1n0rhnl7ogncqqmfu@4ax.com>
In reply to#687779
Richard N. Bush wrote:

> Adison Vohn Caterson posted:
>>
>> chrisv wrote:
>>>
>>> That POS Biden ignored the SCOTUS on student loan "forgiveness".
>>> Fucking prick  hands-out money to idiots who take on ridiculous
>>> amounts of debt to get a degree in gender studies or black history.
>>> Where's the relief for the working stiff?
>> 
>> That's irritating... how the fuck do you take taxpayer money to pay
>> for loans snowflakes never intended to pay back?
>
>Here's how that works.  
>
>They get loan forgiveness.  They think, "OH JOY!"  "NO MORE PAYMENTS!"  
>"YAY!"  "LET'S PARTY AND DO DRUGS!"

Don't forget to vote for the leftists.  I mean, when they are offering
you tens of thousands of dollars for your vote, it's hard to turn
down, right?  It's not that you're a selfish fuck.  It's not that
you're a thief.  You deserve this!   /s

>> Not likey they use the degree anyway, else they'd PAY IT BACK :)
>
>Most degrees are worthless these days anyway.  They don't prepare or 
>motivate most to work.

Some of the leftists want the taxpayers to pay for free college for
all!  A *colossal* waste of money and time, effectively babysitting
people an extra four years.  Of course, schools would be incentified
to jack prices even more than they have been.  An absolute *calamity*,
it would be.

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#687794

From-hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com>
Date2025-03-22 09:10 -0400
Message-ID<vrmcrl$gfg$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#687767
On 3/21/25 18:45, Adison Vohn Caterson wrote:
> On 2025-03-21, chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>> pothead wrote:
>>
>>> Governor Swill wrote:
>>>>
>>>> One obeyed the law, the other one didn't.  The problem isn't the
>>>> officeholder, it's the law.  Change it.
>>>>
>>> POTUS primary job is to follow the Constitution and the Constitution says
>>> that POTUS is to protect the country from all enemies both foreign and domestic.
>>>
>>> Biden did neither.
>>
>> That POS Biden ignored the SCOTUS on student loan "forgiveness".
>> Fucking prick  hands-out money to idiots who take on ridiculous
>> amounts of debt to get a degree in gender studies or black history.
>> Where's the relief for the working stiff?
>>
> 
> That's irritating... how the fuck do you take taxpayer money to pay for
> loans snowflakes never intended to pay back?
> 
> We live in stupid times.
> 
> And there is NO defending idiotic policies like this, the BORROWER
> repays the LOAN... that's how that works.
> The degree should be repossessed if the BORROWER defaults.
> Not likey they use the degree anyway, else they'd PAY IT BACK :)
> 

Golly, are you just as pissed off at the $200B in PPP 'loans' which have 
not only not been paid back, but were also fraudulent applications in 
the first place?

Because "...the BORROWER repays the LOAN... that's how that works." right?

-hh

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#687798

Fromchrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid>
Date2025-03-22 10:54 -0500
Message-ID<a6nttjpqd8o3jp68fcpqt13v5j8qnusi5j@4ax.com>
In reply to#687794
-hh wrote:

> Adison Vohn Caterson wrote:
>> 
>> That's irritating... how the fuck do you take taxpayer money to pay for
>> loans snowflakes never intended to pay back?
>> 
>> We live in stupid times.
>> 
>> And there is NO defending idiotic policies like this, the BORROWER
>> repays the LOAN... that's how that works.
>> The degree should be repossessed if the BORROWER defaults.
>> Not likey they use the degree anyway, else they'd PAY IT BACK :)
>
>Golly, are you just as pissed off at the $200B in PPP 'loans' which have 
>not only not been paid back, but were also fraudulent applications in 
>the first place?
>
>Because "...the BORROWER repays the LOAN... that's how that works." right?

PPP loans were *intended* to be forgivable if the funds were used for
eligible expenses.  And fraud is an entirely different issue.

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#687803

From-hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com>
Date2025-03-22 13:47 -0400
Message-ID<vrmt2m$gfc$6@dont-email.me>
In reply to#687798
On 3/22/25 11:54, chrisv wrote:
> -hh wrote:
> 
>> Adison Vohn Caterson wrote:
>>>
>>> That's irritating... how the fuck do you take taxpayer money to pay for
>>> loans snowflakes never intended to pay back?
>>>
>>> We live in stupid times.
>>>
>>> And there is NO defending idiotic policies like this, the BORROWER
>>> repays the LOAN... that's how that works.
>>> The degree should be repossessed if the BORROWER defaults.
>>> Not likey they use the degree anyway, else they'd PAY IT BACK :)
>>
>> Golly, are you just as pissed off at the $200B in PPP 'loans' which have
>> not only not been paid back, but were also fraudulent applications in
>> the first place?
>>
>> Because "...the BORROWER repays the LOAN... that's how that works." right?
> 
> PPP loans were *intended* to be forgivable if the funds were used for
> eligible expenses.  And fraud is an entirely different issue.

Sure ... but why has this $200B in known fraud not been clawed back?



-hh

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#687819

FromAdison Vohn Caterson <Adison@Caterson.invalid>
Date2025-03-22 22:32 +0000
Message-ID<slrnvtuej0.2t1.Adison@localhost.localdomain>
In reply to#687794
On 2025-03-22, -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:
> On 3/21/25 18:45, Adison Vohn Caterson wrote:
>> On 2025-03-21, chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>>> pothead wrote:
>>>
>>>> Governor Swill wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> One obeyed the law, the other one didn't.  The problem isn't the
>>>>> officeholder, it's the law.  Change it.
>>>>>
>>>> POTUS primary job is to follow the Constitution and the Constitution says
>>>> that POTUS is to protect the country from all enemies both foreign and domestic.
>>>>
>>>> Biden did neither.
>>>
>>> That POS Biden ignored the SCOTUS on student loan "forgiveness".
>>> Fucking prick  hands-out money to idiots who take on ridiculous
>>> amounts of debt to get a degree in gender studies or black history.
>>> Where's the relief for the working stiff?
>>>
>> 
>> That's irritating... how the fuck do you take taxpayer money to pay for
>> loans snowflakes never intended to pay back?
>> 
>> We live in stupid times.
>> 
>> And there is NO defending idiotic policies like this, the BORROWER
>> repays the LOAN... that's how that works.
>> The degree should be repossessed if the BORROWER defaults.
>> Not likey they use the degree anyway, else they'd PAY IT BACK :)
>> 
>
> Golly, are you just as pissed off at the $200B in PPP 'loans' which have 
> not only not been paid back, but were also fraudulent applications in 
> the first place?
>
> Because "...the BORROWER repays the LOAN... that's how that works." right?
>

Yes, I think all taxpayer money should be repaid.
Fraud = return money | else go to jail.

Even legitimate monies should be recovered from those workers that were
paid to get through the pandemic.

The stimulus checks should have been repaid through taxes after the
pandemic.

I think when you receive money in lean times, you pay it back when times
get better.

Doubt any of it pisses me off, I expect no less from scheming
entitlement moochers ;)

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#687863

FromGovernor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com>
Date2025-03-23 09:37 -0400
Message-ID<oi30uj937f0eudvcse1ct54isg07n3kk23@4ax.com>
In reply to#687819
On Sat, 22 Mar 2025 22:32:00 -0000 (UTC), Adison Vohn Caterson wrote:

>Yes, I think all taxpayer money should be repaid.
>Fraud = return money | else go to jail.
>
>Even legitimate monies should be recovered from those workers that were
>paid to get through the pandemic.

That would have prevented the inflation but would also have triggered
a recession.

>The stimulus checks should have been repaid through taxes after the
>pandemic.

That would have prevented the inflation but would also have triggered
a recession.

>I think when you receive money in lean times, you pay it back when times
>get better.

+1

>Doubt any of it pisses me off, I expect no less from scheming
>entitlement moochers ;)

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#687874

FromAdison Vohn Caterson <Adison@Caterson.invalid>
Date2025-03-23 16:42 +0000
Message-ID<slrnvu0egh.2ts.Adison@localhost.localdomain>
In reply to#687863
On 2025-03-23, Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sat, 22 Mar 2025 22:32:00 -0000 (UTC), Adison Vohn Caterson wrote:
>
>>Yes, I think all taxpayer money should be repaid.
>>Fraud = return money | else go to jail.
>>
>>Even legitimate monies should be recovered from those workers that were
>>paid to get through the pandemic.
>
> That would have prevented the inflation but would also have triggered
> a recession.

Life would still happen, not a reason to practice financial
irresponsibilty.

>>The stimulus checks should have been repaid through taxes after the
>>pandemic.
>
> That would have prevented the inflation but would also have triggered
> a recession.

Life would still happen, not a reason to practice financial 
irresponsibilty.

>>I think when you receive money in lean times, you pay it back when times
>>get better.
>
> +1

Looks like financial responsibility is back in style:
https://doge.gov/savings

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#688043

FromGovernor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com>
Date2025-03-24 22:13 -0400
Message-ID<cm34uj14oou8h0g07tl1pmnqm3ui4t7abh@4ax.com>
In reply to#687874
On Sun, 23 Mar 2025 16:42:57 -0000 (UTC), Adison Vohn Caterson
<Adison@Caterson.invalid> wrote:

>On 2025-03-23, Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Sat, 22 Mar 2025 22:32:00 -0000 (UTC), Adison Vohn Caterson wrote:
>>
>>>Yes, I think all taxpayer money should be repaid.
>>>Fraud = return money | else go to jail.
>>>
>>>Even legitimate monies should be recovered from those workers that were
>>>paid to get through the pandemic.
>>
>> That would have prevented the inflation but would also have triggered
>> a recession.
>
>Life would still happen, not a reason to practice financial
>irresponsibilty.

But which is the irresponsibility?  Choice was between inflation or
recession.  We chose inflation.  *shrug*  A lot of folks' homes were
saved that could have been lost in a recession.

Trump is throwing away the very tools that allow such economic
management.  The system works.  Why is Trump throwing away such an
effective tool?

>>>The stimulus checks should have been repaid through taxes after the
>>>pandemic.
>>
>> That would have prevented the inflation but would also have triggered
>> a recession.
>
>Life would still happen, not a reason to practice financial 
>irresponsibilty.

It was recession or inflation.  

We pay it back (recession) or we don't (inflation).

>>>I think when you receive money in lean times, you pay it back when times
>>>get better.
>>
>> +1
>
>Looks like financial responsibility is back in style:
>https://doge.gov/savings

Not there.  We expect certain services from Uncle Sam.

I expect Uncle Sam to liase with my local governtments/utilities and
make sure my water is safe to drink, my air is safe to breathe, my
food is safe to eat and my meds safe to take.

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#688378

FromAdison Vohn Caterson <Adison@Caterson.invalid>
Date2025-03-29 17:26 +0000
Message-ID<slrnvugb9m.3fh.Adison@localhost.localdomain>
In reply to#688043
On 2025-03-25, Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sun, 23 Mar 2025 16:42:57 -0000 (UTC), Adison Vohn Caterson
><Adison@Caterson.invalid> wrote:
>
>>On 2025-03-23, Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Sat, 22 Mar 2025 22:32:00 -0000 (UTC), Adison Vohn Caterson wrote:
>>>
>>>>Yes, I think all taxpayer money should be repaid.
>>>>Fraud = return money | else go to jail.
>>>>
>>>>Even legitimate monies should be recovered from those workers that were
>>>>paid to get through the pandemic.
>>>
>>> That would have prevented the inflation but would also have triggered
>>> a recession.
>>
>>Life would still happen, not a reason to practice financial
>>irresponsibilty.
>
> But which is the irresponsibility?  Choice was between inflation or
> recession.  We chose inflation.  *shrug*  A lot of folks' homes were
> saved that could have been lost in a recession.

I somehow paid my house off, I lived through the same economy everyone
else did. If people mis-manage their money, that would be a personal
responsibilty issue. For years, way long ago, I worked 2 jobs to get the
house paid for. I didn't consider for a second "taxpayers" needed to
pitch in and help me.

> Trump is throwing away the very tools that allow such economic
> management.  The system works.  Why is Trump throwing away such an
> effective tool?

If you look at the waste he is finding(lots of Elon videos out there),
only insane people or those with their hands in the cookie jar, would
think any management was going on until now.

>>>>The stimulus checks should have been repaid through taxes after the
>>>>pandemic.
>>>
>>> That would have prevented the inflation but would also have triggered
>>> a recession.
>>
>>Life would still happen, not a reason to practice financial 
>>irresponsibilty.
>
> It was recession or inflation.  
>
> We pay it back (recession) or we don't (inflation).
>
>>>>I think when you receive money in lean times, you pay it back when times
>>>>get better.
>>>
>>> +1
>>
>>Looks like financial responsibility is back in style:
>>https://doge.gov/savings
>
> Not there.  We expect certain services from Uncle Sam.

Not social security payments to 15 million people over 120.
Lots of shenanigans with no benefit to the working people.

> I expect Uncle Sam to liase with my local governtments/utilities and
> make sure my water is safe to drink, my air is safe to breathe, my
> food is safe to eat and my meds safe to take.

I don't, I expect local, state government to fix the roads, build new
roads as needed, perhaps provide resources to help poorer people get
their shit together. They've already dropped the ball so many times on
other things I doubt multiple layers of complex regulation does much
more than enrich regulators.

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