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| Started by | L Thorpe <lt666@sixsixsix.net> |
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| First post | 2026-08-15 20:45 +0000 |
| Last post | 2026-08-17 00:12 -0400 |
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Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 L Thorpe <lt666@sixsixsix.net> - 2026-08-15 20:45 +0000
Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-08-15 17:10 -0400
Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 L Thorpe <lt666@sixsixsix.net> - 2026-08-15 21:15 +0000
Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-08-15 17:21 -0400
Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 Leroy H <lh@somewhere.net> - 2026-08-15 22:56 +0000
Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-08-15 19:36 -0400
Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2026-08-16 08:53 +0000
Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-16 02:26 -0400
Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-08-16 03:01 -0400
Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-08-17 09:48 -0700
Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-08-17 12:54 -0400
Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-17 17:49 +0000
Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 Leroy H <lh@somewhere.net> - 2026-08-17 19:33 +0000
Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-08-17 15:39 -0400
Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-17 21:01 +0100
Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 Leroy H <lh@somewhere.net> - 2026-08-17 20:13 +0000
Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 Leroy H <lh@somewhere.net> - 2026-08-16 14:30 +0000
Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-16 17:44 +0100
Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 L Thorpe <lt666@sixsixsix.net> - 2026-08-16 17:01 +0000
Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-17 00:52 -0400
Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-08-17 16:58 +0000
Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-08-17 13:45 -0400
Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-08-17 18:59 +0000
Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-08-17 15:16 -0400
OT (was: Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11) "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-08-17 21:20 +0100
Re: OT "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-08-17 16:42 -0400
Re: OT "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-08-17 22:21 +0100
Re: OT "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-08-17 18:23 -0400
Re: OT John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-08-17 14:34 -0700
Re: OT "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-08-17 18:24 -0400
Re: OT John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-08-17 15:40 -0700
Re: OT "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-08-17 18:44 -0400
Re: OT John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-08-18 07:51 -0700
Re: OT "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-08-18 11:20 -0400
Re: OT John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-08-18 10:24 -0700
Re: OT The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-19 13:58 +0100
Re: OT Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-08-18 00:47 +0000
Re: OT "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-08-17 20:51 -0400
Re: OT rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-18 03:01 +0000
Re: OT Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-08-18 04:55 +0000
Re: OT rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-18 02:55 +0000
Re: OT Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-08-19 18:30 +0000
Re: OT "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-08-19 22:19 +0100
Re: OT Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-08-20 15:41 +0000
Re: OT "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-08-20 17:05 +0100
Re: OT Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-08-20 17:57 +0000
Re: OT "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2026-08-20 18:59 +0100
Re: OT Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-08-20 18:48 +0000
Re: OT Oz roads /satnavs "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2026-08-20 21:23 +0100
Re: OT Oz roads /satnavs Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-08-21 07:40 +0000
Re: OT rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-20 20:50 +0000
Re: OT rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-20 20:32 +0000
Re: OT rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-20 20:26 +0000
Re: OT Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-08-20 22:44 +0000
Re: OT rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-21 03:36 +0000
Re: OT The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-21 13:43 +0100
Re: OT rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-20 20:05 +0000
Re: OT Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-08-20 20:26 +0000
Re: OT rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-20 22:12 +0000
Re: OT The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-20 01:16 +0100
Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-17 22:51 +0000
Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2026-08-18 08:39 +0100
Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-08-18 03:52 -0400
Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-08-18 21:15 +1000
Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-08-18 07:25 -0400
Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-08-18 21:44 +1000
Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-08-18 07:52 -0400
Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-18 13:18 +0100
Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-08-18 08:36 -0400
Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-18 13:16 +0100
Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-17 18:07 +0000
Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-17 23:40 +0000
Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-08-17 19:45 -0400
Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-08-18 00:47 +0000
Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-18 02:51 +0000
Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-08-18 03:10 +0000
Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-18 00:48 -0400
Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-18 10:26 +0100
Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-08-18 04:55 +0000
Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-08-18 08:55 -0400
Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-18 17:24 +0100
Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-08-18 16:37 +0000
Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-08-18 20:51 -0400
Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-19 15:04 +0100
Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-19 20:53 +0000
Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-08-19 22:11 -0400
Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-20 11:58 +0100
Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-20 21:51 +0000
Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-08-20 21:06 -0400
Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-21 13:50 +0100
Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-19 04:32 +0000
Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-08-19 05:34 +0000
Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-19 14:52 +0100
Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-19 21:08 +0000
Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-08-19 22:54 +0000
Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-20 04:11 +0000
Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-18 10:25 +0100
Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-18 15:34 +0000
Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-18 17:30 +0100
Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-08-18 16:30 +0000
Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-18 22:52 +0000
Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2026-08-19 05:54 +0200
Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-19 14:47 +0100
Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-19 21:26 +0000
Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-20 01:42 +0100
Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 Leroy H <lh@somewhere.net> - 2026-08-20 01:42 +0000
Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-18 03:34 +0000
Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 vallor <vallor@vallor.earth> - 2026-08-16 20:25 +0000
Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-16 23:42 -0400
Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2026-08-16 08:45 +0000
Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-08-16 04:59 -0400
Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-08-16 08:09 -0400
Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 Leroy H <lh@somewhere.net> - 2026-08-16 15:13 +0000
Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 Leroy H <lh@somewhere.net> - 2026-08-16 16:14 +0000
Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-16 20:26 +0000
Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 vallor <vallor@vallor.earth> - 2026-08-16 11:55 +0000
Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-16 13:45 +0100
Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 vallor <vallor@vallor.earth> - 2026-08-16 13:01 +0000
Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-16 20:15 +0000
Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 Leroy H <lh@somewhere.net> - 2026-08-16 14:48 +0000
Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2026-08-17 10:32 +0000
Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2026-08-17 18:13 +0000
Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-08-17 14:34 -0400
Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-17 00:12 -0400
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| From | Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-08-18 22:52 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <1162nmp$26tip$6@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #720544 |
On Tue, 18 Aug 2026 16:30:02 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote: > On 2026-08-18, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote: > >> On 18/08/2026 01:47, Charlie Gibbs wrote: >> >>> "Corporatocracy" seems to be preferable. >> >> Corpocracy. Be British. Don't multiply syllables beyond necessity. >> (William of Occam, A Brit, adapted).. > > "Orientate" is an example of the trend toward > polysyllabificationizing. > > (My other pet peeve: saying "preventative" instead of "preventive".) “Adaptation” or “adaption”?
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| From | Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> |
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| Date | 2026-08-19 05:54 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <p3aa8l5vo37s1hsp1s26ttqda4cq321li7@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #720583 |
On Tue, 18 Aug 2026 22:52:09 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence DÿOliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote: >On Tue, 18 Aug 2026 16:30:02 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote: > >> On 2026-08-18, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote: >> >>> On 18/08/2026 01:47, Charlie Gibbs wrote: >>> >>>> "Corporatocracy" seems to be preferable. >>> >>> Corpocracy. Be British. Don't multiply syllables beyond necessity. >>> (William of Occam, A Brit, adapted).. >> >> "Orientate" is an example of the trend toward >> polysyllabificationizing. >> >> (My other pet peeve: saying "preventative" instead of "preventive".) > >“Adaptation” or “adaption”? Administer --> administrate Comment --> commentate -- Steve Hayes from Tshwane, South Africa Web: http://www.khanya.org.za/stevesig.htm Blog: http://methodius.blogspot.com E-mail - see web page, or parse: shayes at dunelm full stop org full stop uk
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-08-19 14:47 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <1164c5u$2le0s$16@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #720544 |
On 18/08/2026 17:30, Charlie Gibbs wrote: > On 2026-08-18, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote: > >> On 18/08/2026 01:47, Charlie Gibbs wrote: >> >>> "Corporatocracy" seems to be preferable. >> >> Corpocracy. Be British. Don't multiply syllables beyond necessity. >> (William of Occam, A Brit, adapted).. > > "Orientate" is an example of the trend toward polysyllabificationizing. > Yes. I love the US 'burglarise' Both countries needed to make a verb out of the activities of burglars. The UK chose 'to burgle'. > (My other pet peeve: saying "preventative" instead of "preventive".) > Use prophylactics instead -- "When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are all in confederacy against him." Jonathan Swift.
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2026-08-19 21:26 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <nemlbbFpub2U17@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #720621 |
On Wed, 19 Aug 2026 14:47:42 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > I love the US 'burglarise' > Both countries needed to make a verb out of the activities of burglars. > The UK chose 'to burgle'. Many jurisdictions in the US specify burglary as entering an unoccupied building and home invasion for an occupied building. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Home_invasion This state has the castle doctrine with a no retreat clause: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Castle_doctrine It isn't an automatic license to kill. A local was convicted of murder since he baited a kid breaking into garages by leaving the door open. It didn't help that he fired a 12 gauge into the dark garage 4 times without identifying a target. 4th rule of firearm safety: Always Be Sure of Your Target and What’s Beyond It
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-08-20 01:42 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <1165ihf$33bfm$5@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #720646 |
On 19/08/2026 22:26, rbowman wrote: > On Wed, 19 Aug 2026 14:47:42 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > >> I love the US 'burglarise' >> Both countries needed to make a verb out of the activities of burglars. >> The UK chose 'to burgle'. > > Many jurisdictions in the US specify burglary as entering an unoccupied > building and home invasion for an occupied building. > UK law, has breaking and entering, burglary and robbery with violence. Or did. They reformed it a bit "The old common law term "breaking and entering" is now encompassed within the statutory offence of burglary. A person commits burglary if they enter any building (or part of a building) as a trespasser" "If a person commits a standard burglary and has with them at the time any firearm, imitation firearm, explosive, or weapon of offence, it becomes aggravated burglary" "Robbery is fundamentally different from burglary because it focuses on a direct confrontation and theft from a person. A person is guilty of robbery if they steal and immediately before or at the time of doing so, and in order to do so, they use force on any person or put/seek to put any person in fear of being subjected to force" > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Home_invasion > > This state has the castle doctrine with a no retreat clause: > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Castle_doctrine > > It isn't an automatic license to kill. A local was convicted of murder > since he baited a kid breaking into garages by leaving the door open. It > didn't help that he fired a 12 gauge into the dark garage 4 times without > identifying a target. 4th rule of firearm safety: > > Always Be Sure of Your Target and What’s Beyond It > -- There is something fascinating about science. One gets such wholesale returns of conjecture out of such a trifling investment of fact. Mark Twain
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| From | Leroy H <lh@somewhere.net> |
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| Date | 2026-08-20 01:42 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <18cd5ffdd6a11452$186395$796307$802601b3@news.usenetexpress.com> |
| In reply to | #720654 |
On Thu, 20 Aug 2026 01:42:23 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > > UK law, has breaking and entering, burglary and robbery with violence. > Or did. They reformed it a bit > In the ever Victorian UK, breaking and entering is always called "buggery," and was always a tradition in the Royal Navy: <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMxALY5IaAs> Haaaaaaaaaa, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2026-08-18 03:34 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <nei26pFpk4lU43@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #720447 |
On Mon, 17 Aug 2026 23:40:31 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote: > The term for private corporations having more power over ordinary > citizens’ lives than the Government, is not “Communism”, but “Fascism”. > Or possibly “Corporatism”. Corporatism isn't what you think it is. Try corporatocracy. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporatism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporatocracy Fascism adopted some corporatist ideas via Gabriele D'Annunzio, although D'Annunzio didn't have much use for Mussolini. 'Fascism' with the lower case 'f' means whatever the purple haired, pierced harpy thinks it means.
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| From | vallor <vallor@vallor.earth> |
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| Date | 2026-08-16 20:25 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <115t6bu$fclg$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #720321 |
[ newsgroups snecked ] At Sun, 16 Aug 2026 17:44:53 +0100, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote: > On 16/08/2026 15:30, Leroy H wrote: > > I am not knocking GNU/Linux. I prefer it and use it for > > much paid ($$$) pro work but the dregs of the world know > > only M$ Win. > > > So you need it professionally. Fairy Nuff > > I don't > > > Thus, it is not inappropriate for the GNU/Linux advocate > > to install Win11. Nobody is disputing that. The issue is that you said you used Linux "exclusively", but in the same breath said you used Win11. Make up your damned mind. Also, you posted your reply using different handle than the OP. Again: make up your damned mind. > > Well that's OK because I am not a Linux/Unix advocate. I am a > contented user. Sorry to piggyback on your post, but laughing boy can't make up his d...well, you get the idea. -- -v System76 Thelio Mega v1.1 x86_64 Mem: 258G OS: Linux 7.2.0-rc7 D: Mint 22.3 DE: Xfce 4.18 (X11) NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090Ti (24G) (610.57.04) "The days of the digital watch are numbered"
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| From | c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> |
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| Date | 2026-08-16 23:42 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <DN6dnTIf_urfHh_3nZ2dnZfqnPadnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #720321 |
On 8/16/26 12:44, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > On 16/08/2026 15:30, Leroy H wrote: >> I am not knocking GNU/Linux. I prefer it and use it for >> much paid ($$$) pro work but the dregs of the world know >> only M$ Win. >> > So you need it professionally. Fairy Nuff > > I don't I had to "know it professionally" for a LONG time. Big offices full of M$ boxes - and NOBODY was gonna change, couldn't COPE. Now the whole "back-end", I changed that to Linux as fast as possible. Didn't even have M$ on my personal box there. Good servers/networking/net/ routing/etc ... use Linux ! The new guys, they totally sold out to M$. It's gonna BITE sooner or later - probably sooner. But then they can BLAME it on M$ - "Not OUR Fault !!!". >> Thus, it is not inappropriate for the GNU/Linux advocate >> to install Win11. > > Well that's OK because I am not a Linux/Unix advocate. I am a contented > user. ALL I ever use. The Better Plan.
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| From | Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> |
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| Date | 2026-08-16 08:45 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <6a81788d$0$7107$426a74cc@news.free.fr> |
| In reply to | #720264 |
Le 15-08-2026, L Thorpe <lt666@sixsixsix.net> a écrit : > > Even though I use GNU/Linux exclusively we all need to maintain > a working version of Win11. Who are "we"? I know you're not alone in your head but that doesn't explain it. I'm not included in your "we". I really don't need to maintain a working version of Win11. > After all, the world is composed of > retarded assholes and retarded assholes can only use Win11. You prove, once again, that you are stuck in the past and your reality is outdated. Linux has never been intended for elites, but thirty years ago, if you wanted to use Linux, you needed to be really, really motivated. If you weren't ready to learn the hard way, you couldn't install and use Linux. But it's not true anymore. Anyone can use Linux today, it's easier than Windows. Except you who need to maintain a version of Win11 "for others". You remind me the joke: "Can you tell me where I can find a prostitue? It's not for me, it's for a friend." You are pathetic. > But my Win11 installation was getting somewhat "old." Yes, stuck in the past. By the way, you could realize that your installation is getting old because your first claim stating that you are using exclusively Linux was a lie. > I installed > it way back in 2022 and things have changed since then (of course > I always have updates disabled and thus everything stays the same). You are proud of that, it's a smart thing to do. Mostly if you want others to use your computer to make money on your back. > I therefore decided to install a newer Win11 version. Good boy. > I grabbed > a w4r3z of Windows 11 Pro, 25H2, build 26200.7462. The 8Gb d/l > was completed in a few short minutes but the burn to a USB drive > took almost 15 fucking minutes. That's 'cause the burn allows > the disabling of TPM, RAM, CoPilot, and all the other forced > crap. Kudos to the h4x0rs! (This also an "ancient" machine > being based on a Core i7 2600). You forget about your slow HDD. > The install also required about 15 minutes and involved several > reboots (that's M$ crap for ya'). Your slow HDD help the install process to take more time than necessary. That's funny to see a guy who despise everything recent only to be able to complain about the slowness of his computer. > But it is now several hours and I am still working my way through > that byzantine/rocco crap configuration mess that defines M$ > lunacy. You see? You prove my point. You barely manage to have a Linux computer that barely work, but you can't manage to have a working Windows. So Linux is easier than Windows. -- Si vous avez du temps à perdre : https://scarpet42.gitlab.io
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| From | "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2026-08-16 04:59 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <115ru56$1un5$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #720305 |
On 8/16/2026 4:45 AM, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote: > Le 15-08-2026, L Thorpe <lt666@sixsixsix.net> a écrit : >> >> Even though I use GNU/Linux exclusively we all need to maintain >> a working version of Win11. > > Who are "we"? I know you're not alone in your head but that doesn't > explain it. I'm not included in your "we". I really don't need to > maintain a working version of Win11. Is he not crazy? ROFL! If I were running Linux, that's what I'd be running. I'm running Windows. So not Linux. It's either/or. >> After all, the world is composed of >> retarded assholes and retarded assholes can only use Win11. > > You prove, once again, that you are stuck in the past and your reality > is outdated. Linux has never been intended for elites, but thirty years > ago, if you wanted to use Linux, you needed to be really, really > motivated. If you weren't ready to learn the hard way, you couldn't > install and use Linux. > > But it's not true anymore. Anyone can use Linux today, it's easier than > Windows. Except you who need to maintain a version of Win11 "for > others". You remind me the joke: "Can you tell me where I can find a > prostitue? It's not for me, it's for a friend." You are pathetic. > >> But my Win11 installation was getting somewhat "old." > > Yes, stuck in the past. By the way, you could realize that your > installation is getting old because your first claim stating that you > are using exclusively Linux was a lie. > >> I installed >> it way back in 2022 and things have changed since then (of course >> I always have updates disabled and thus everything stays the same). > > You are proud of that, it's a smart thing to do. Mostly if you want > others to use your computer to make money on your back. > >> I therefore decided to install a newer Win11 version. > > Good boy. > >> I grabbed >> a w4r3z of Windows 11 Pro, 25H2, build 26200.7462. The 8Gb d/l >> was completed in a few short minutes but the burn to a USB drive >> took almost 15 fucking minutes. That's 'cause the burn allows >> the disabling of TPM, RAM, CoPilot, and all the other forced >> crap. Kudos to the h4x0rs! (This also an "ancient" machine >> being based on a Core i7 2600). > > You forget about your slow HDD. > >> The install also required about 15 minutes and involved several >> reboots (that's M$ crap for ya'). > > Your slow HDD help the install process to take more time than necessary. > That's funny to see a guy who despise everything recent only to be able > to complain about the slowness of his computer. Using a spinning disk with Win11 or even Win10 is impossibly bad. And Larry really ought to realize it. >> But it is now several hours and I am still working my way through >> that byzantine/rocco crap configuration mess that defines M$ >> lunacy. > > You see? You prove my point. You barely manage to have a Linux computer > that barely work, but you can't manage to have a working Windows. So > Linux is easier than Windows. He might benefit from a Mac, heh. -- Joel W. Crump Zyprexa - It's not just for schizophrenics, anymore!
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| From | CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> |
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| Date | 2026-08-16 08:09 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <6a81a85e$0$26$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com> |
| In reply to | #720305 |
On 2026-08-16 4:45 a.m., Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote: > Le 15-08-2026, L Thorpe <lt666@sixsixsix.net> a écrit : >> >> Even though I use GNU/Linux exclusively we all need to maintain >> a working version of Win11. > > Who are "we"? I know you're not alone in your head but that doesn't > explain it. I'm not included in your "we". I really don't need to > maintain a working version of Win11. > >> After all, the world is composed of >> retarded assholes and retarded assholes can only use Win11. > > You prove, once again, that you are stuck in the past and your reality > is outdated. Linux has never been intended for elites, but thirty years > ago, if you wanted to use Linux, you needed to be really, really > motivated. If you weren't ready to learn the hard way, you couldn't > install and use Linux. It wasn't _that_ hard in 1996. Nevertheless, once installed, there was a good chance that your hardware wasn't supported properly. In my case, it was the video card and the audio. The former was limited to 800x600, and the latter didn't play sounds at all. > But it's not true anymore. Anyone can use Linux today, it's easier than > Windows. Except you who need to maintain a version of Win11 "for > others". You remind me the joke: "Can you tell me where I can find a > prostitue? It's not for me, it's for a friend." You are pathetic. My experience is that whether Windows or Linux, I need to maintain it for others. If I use my mother as an example of a very basic user, she encounters as many problems whether she uses one or the other. Heck, she managed to screw up a Mac. The operating system that's given her the least amount of problems though is Windows 11. Somehow, that thing resists her destructive nature. Meanwhile, everything works great for me dad regardless of whether it is MacOS, Windows or Linux. Nevertheless, he had a preference for Linux Mint when I had that installed for him because it stayed out of his way and only did what it was supposed to. < snip > -- CrudeSausage M4 MacBook Air Matthew 7:15 John 14:6
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| From | Leroy H <lh@somewhere.net> |
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| Date | 2026-08-16 15:13 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <18cc51e925a5b07a$167675$821642$802601b3@news.usenetexpress.com> |
| In reply to | #720305 |
On 16 Aug 2026 08:45:01 GMT, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote: > > I'm not included in your "we". I really don't need to > maintain a working version of Win11. > Imagine yourself sitting and working on your GNU/Linux machine. An email from the boss arrives containing an AutoCAD file for immediate review or a Word document with uncommon formatting (e.g. tables with fields and formulas) for immediate modification. Neither file will open in GNU/Linux software. What do you do? I would simply write the files to a USB thumb drive, with VFAT formatting, and carry it over to my M$ Win machine. When finished, I would reverse the process. > > But it's not true anymore. Anyone can use Linux today, it's easier than > Windows. Except you who need to maintain a version of Win11 "for > others". > Yes, for others. I still receive some email that contains multi-part messages with the HTML part formatted in Quoted-Printible that is produced by the M$ Outhouse email software. My GNU/Linux email client can't read it. I have to save it to file and then convert with recode: recode us/QP..us <QP.txt >Ascii.txt It is a burden but it further demonstrates that stupid M$ methodologies permeate the world and the GNU/Linux user must be prepared for them. > > You see? You prove my point. You barely manage to have a Linux computer > that barely work, but you can't manage to have a working Windows. So > Linux is easier than Windows. > I see only the reality of your SIMPLE MIND. You are a simpleton and all of your opinions are invalid.
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| From | Leroy H <lh@somewhere.net> |
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| Date | 2026-08-16 16:14 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <18cc55357592739c$167676$821642$802601b3@news.usenetexpress.com> |
| In reply to | #720319 |
On Sun, 16 Aug 2026 15:13:33 +0000, Leroy H wrote: Holy holy! After just the install of the OS components, Task Manager shows 21% RAM usage! There are 16 Gb of RAM on this machine. Any OS that requires that much RAM is a pile of junk. M$ Win 11 is a pile of junk. But I need it. For the dregs.
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2026-08-16 20:26 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <neeko7Fpk4lU21@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #720305 |
On 16 Aug 2026 08:45:01 GMT, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote: > Who are "we"? I know you're not alone in your head but that doesn't > explain it. I'm not included in your "we". I really don't need to > maintain a working version of Win11. I have a Win11 laptop that I boot up once a month to apply updates. The sticking point for me is the Garmin Express app that is used to update the Garmin GPS in my car. The app is only available on Windows and Mac.
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| From | vallor <vallor@vallor.earth> |
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| Date | 2026-08-16 11:55 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <115s8f7$4260$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #720264 |
At Sat, 15 Aug 2026 20:45:49 +0000, L Thorpe <lt666@sixsixsix.net> wrote: > Ahoy Pie R8s! > > Even though I use GNU/Linux exclusively we all need to maintain > a working version of Win11. I've been pondering this koan for a little while now, and I haven't had the "aha" moment yet. Maybe it can be found plumbing the depths of "TINW"? Beats me. BTW, I know you're excited about your latest MS Windows purchase, but I can't see how that is on topic for colm. Also, you didn't compare MS Windows to Linux, so it's off-topic in cola, too. Message-ID: <comp.os.linux.advocacy-RFD1@uunet.uu.net> Summary from article: Summary: comp.os.linux.advocacy is to be an unmoderated group for the discussion of the positive and negative sides of Linux and comparison of Linux with other operating systems. CHARTER: The proposed group will provide a forum for the discussion of Linux. In addition, it will allow comp.os.linux.misc to deal with Linux-specific issues. Discussion will include (but not be limited to) the discussion of the pros and cons of Linux and appliactions for Linux, and the comparison of Linux with other operating systems and enviromnets such as Microsoft DOS and Windows, SCO UNIX, Coherent, NeXTstep, Macintosh System, etc. It will be an unmoderated forum. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ (Here endeth this ancient history lesson.) I've set fu2: cola for further discussion. Since you morphed out of my kf once again, I can eagerly await your sagacious remarks. -- -v System76 Thelio Mega v1.1 x86_64 Mem: 258G OS: Linux 7.2.0-rc7 D: Mint 22.3 DE: Xfce 4.18 (X11) NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090Ti (24G) (610.57.04)
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-08-16 13:45 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <115sbd4$5u2k$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #720308 |
On 16/08/2026 12:55, vallor wrote: > At Sat, 15 Aug 2026 20:45:49 +0000, L Thorpe<lt666@sixsixsix.net> > wrote: > >> Ahoy Pie R8s! >> >> Even though I use GNU/Linux exclusively we all need to maintain >> a working version of Win11. > I've been pondering this koan for a little while now, and I haven't > had the "aha" moment yet. Maybe it can be found plumbing the depths > of "TINW"? Beats me. I keep a working copy of Windows XP... -- Of what good are dead warriors? … Warriors are those who desire battle more than peace. Those who seek battle despite peace. Those who thump their spears on the ground and talk of honor. Those who leap high the battle dance and dream of glory … The good of dead warriors, Mother, is that they are dead. Sheri S Tepper: The Awakeners.
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| From | vallor <vallor@vallor.earth> |
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| Date | 2026-08-16 13:01 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <115scbi$661b$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #720314 |
At Sun, 16 Aug 2026 13:45:24 +0100, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote: > On 16/08/2026 12:55, vallor wrote: > > At Sat, 15 Aug 2026 20:45:49 +0000, L Thorpe<lt666@sixsixsix.net> > > wrote: > > > >> Ahoy Pie R8s! > >> > >> Even though I use GNU/Linux exclusively we all need to maintain > >> a working version of Win11. > > I've been pondering this koan for a little while now, and I haven't > > had the "aha" moment yet. Maybe it can be found plumbing the depths > > of "TINW"? Beats me. > > I keep a working copy of Windows XP... Slightly less orthogonal than the logic puzzle presented by Farley Thorpe (or whatever he calls himself now). BTW, your sig reminded me of a quote: > Of what good are dead warriors? … Warriors are those who desire > battle more than peace. Those who seek battle despite peace. Those > who thump their spears on the ground and talk of honor. Those who > leap high the battle dance and dream of glory … The good of dead > warriors, Mother, > is that they are dead. Sheri S Tepper: The > Awakeners. "It is only those who have never heard a shot, never heard the shriek and groans of the wounded and lacerated ... that cry aloud for more blood, more vengeance, more desolation." -General William Tecumseh Sherman -- -v System76 Thelio Mega v1.1 x86_64 Mem: 258G OS: Linux 7.2.0-rc7 D: Mint 22.3 DE: Xfce 4.18 (X11) NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090Ti (24G) (610.57.04) "Life would be easier if I had the source code."
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2026-08-16 20:15 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <neek36Fpk4lU20@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #720315 |
On Sun, 16 Aug 2026 13:01:38 +0000, vallor wrote: > "It is only those who have never heard a shot, never heard the shriek > and groans of the wounded and lacerated ... that cry aloud for more > blood, more vengeance, more desolation." > -General William Tecumseh Sherman He said as he marched to the sea... We set up a molding plant in Madison GA. It prided itself on being the only town Sherman didn't burn.
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| From | Leroy H <lh@somewhere.net> |
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| Date | 2026-08-16 14:48 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <18cc508cae18bac9$167674$821642$802601b3@news.usenetexpress.com> |
| In reply to | #720308 |
On Sun, 16 Aug 2026 11:55:19 +0000, vallor wrote: >> >> Even though I use GNU/Linux exclusively we all need to maintain >> a working version of Win11. > > I've been pondering this koan for a little while now, and I haven't > had the "aha" moment yet. Maybe it can be found plumbing the depths > of "TINW"? Beats me. > Another one needs to go shopping for a dunce cap: <https://masquerade.com/products/dunce-cap> The "we" signifies all GNU/Linux users/advocates. > > BTW, I know you're excited about your latest MS Windows purchase, > but I can't see how that is on topic for colm. > > Also, you didn't compare MS Windows to Linux, so it's off-topic > in cola, too. > Spare us the nanny lectures. What do you do if someone sends you an AutoCAD file? It won't open in FreeCAD and so you are stuck unless you maintain an M$ Win machine. Although mostly unspoken and forbidden, a part of using GNU/Linux is also being able to use M$ Win. Think of a tourist traveling in some underdeveloped shithole country. He must be prepared to deal with the natives on their primitive level rather than expect them to rise up to his advanced level.
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