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Linux 6.14.3

Started byvallor <vallor@cultnix.org>
First post2025-04-20 11:59 +0000
Last post2025-04-20 11:24 -0400
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  Linux 6.14.3 vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-04-20 11:59 +0000
    Re: Linux 6.14.3 % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2025-04-20 07:46 -0700
      Re: Linux 6.14.3 vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-04-20 15:09 +0000
        Re: Linux 6.14.3 % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2025-04-20 09:06 -0700
        Re: Linux 6.14.3 Raymond Rayson <ray@nah.thx> - 2025-04-20 17:31 +0000
          Re: Linux 6.14.3 vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-04-21 12:31 +0000
            Re: Linux 6.14.3 % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2025-04-21 06:17 -0700
              NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-575.51.02.run (was: Re: Linux 6.14.3) vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-04-21 20:28 +0000
                Re: NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-575.51.02.run % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2025-04-21 13:33 -0700
                  Re: NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-575.51.02.run vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-04-21 21:20 +0000
                    Re: NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-575.51.02.run % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2025-04-21 14:48 -0700
                      Re: NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-575.51.02.run vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-04-21 22:29 +0000
                        Re: NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-575.51.02.run % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2025-04-21 15:53 -0700
                          Re: NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-575.51.02.run vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-04-22 00:48 +0000
                            Re: NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-575.51.02.run % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2025-04-21 17:55 -0700
                              Re: NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-575.51.02.run vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-04-22 01:04 +0000
                      Re: NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-575.51.02.run CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-04-21 21:02 -0400
        Re: Linux 6.14.3 Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> - 2025-04-20 19:43 +0000
      Re: Linux 6.14.3 CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-04-20 11:24 -0400

#689272 — Linux 6.14.3

Fromvallor <vallor@cultnix.org>
Date2025-04-20 11:59 +0000
SubjectLinux 6.14.3
Message-ID<m6k5skFibofU1@mid.individual.net>
$ uname -a
Linux lm 6.14.3 #1 SMP PREEMPT Sun Apr 20 04:16:54 PDT 2025 x86_64 x86_64 
x86_64 GNU/Linux

$ tail -3 nohup.out 
real 441.53
user 21535.94
sys 3744.47

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#689276

From% <pursent100@gmail.com>
Date2025-04-20 07:46 -0700
Message-ID<jPGdnccCP6NAlZj1nZ2dnZfqnPsAAAAA@giganews.com>
In reply to#689272
vallor wrote:
> $ uname -a
> Linux lm 6.14.3 #1 SMP PREEMPT Sun Apr 20 04:16:54 PDT 2025 x86_64 x86_64
> x86_64 GNU/Linux
> 
> $ tail -3 nohup.out
> real 441.53
> user 21535.94
> sys 3744.47
> 
what purpose does this post serve anyone and why do you keep repeating it

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#689277

Fromvallor <vallor@cultnix.org>
Date2025-04-20 15:09 +0000
Message-ID<m6kh10FibofU2@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#689276
On Sun, 20 Apr 2025 07:46:57 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote in
<jPGdnccCP6NAlZj1nZ2dnZfqnPsAAAAA@giganews.com>:

> vallor wrote:
>> $ uname -a Linux lm 6.14.3 #1 SMP PREEMPT Sun Apr 20 04:16:54 PDT 2025
>> x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
>> 
>> $ tail -3 nohup.out real 441.53 user 21535.94 sys 3744.47
>> 
> what purpose does this post serve anyone

Stop using my posts to get attention.

> and why do you keep repeating it

Stop using my posts to get attention.

But seriously, folks:  this isn't about the same kernel as before -- it
is a new kernel release, and the posts inform people that a) they are
available, and b) that they build without error.

You might also add -- in my case -- c) they work with the NVIDIA drivers,
since I won't run these on my workstation with nouveau.

(Note that these posts are to encourage people to try building the
vanilla kernel...which isn't for casual users!)

Sigmonster has a message for %:

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#689280

From% <pursent100@gmail.com>
Date2025-04-20 09:06 -0700
Message-ID<kf-dnTh5HuX_hpj1nZ2dnZfqn_EAAAAA@giganews.com>
In reply to#689277
vallor wrote:
> what purpose does this post serve anyone

what purpose does this post serve anyone

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#689282

FromRaymond Rayson <ray@nah.thx>
Date2025-04-20 17:31 +0000
Message-ID<vu3b27$33j9j$1@paganini.bofh.team>
In reply to#689277
On 20 Apr 2025 15:09:21 GMT, vallor wrote:

<snip> 

> it is a new kernel release, and the posts inform people that a) they
> are available, and b) that they build without error.
> 
> You might also add -- in my case -- c) they work with the NVIDIA
> drivers,

<snip>

> Note that these posts are to encourage people to try building the
> vanilla kernel

<snip>

Good to know. Thanks vallor!
Might I suggest adding those tidbits to your posts? perhaps as a footer? It's quite informative.

Best,
Ray

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#689310

Fromvallor <vallor@cultnix.org>
Date2025-04-21 12:31 +0000
Message-ID<m6ms4mF1rrU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#689282
On Sun, 20 Apr 2025 17:31:51 -0000 (UTC), Raymond Rayson <ray@nah.thx>
wrote in <vu3b27$33j9j$1@paganini.bofh.team>:

> On 20 Apr 2025 15:09:21 GMT, vallor wrote:
> 
> <snip>
> 
>> it is a new kernel release, and the posts inform people that a) they
>> are available, and b) that they build without error.
>> 
>> You might also add -- in my case -- c) they work with the NVIDIA
>> drivers,
> 
> <snip>
> 
>> Note that these posts are to encourage people to try building the
>> vanilla kernel
> 
> <snip>
> 
> Good to know. Thanks vallor!
> Might I suggest adding those tidbits to your posts? perhaps as a footer?
> It's quite informative.
> 
> Best,
> Ray

I'll do that moving forward.

(I usually mention which NVIDIA binary blob I'm using, but it hasn't
changed from the release drivers for several iterations.)

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#689312

From% <pursent100@gmail.com>
Date2025-04-21 06:17 -0700
Message-ID<2gadnSM96OTP2Jv1nZ2dnZfqnPadnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#689310
vallor wrote:
> On Sun, 20 Apr 2025 17:31:51 -0000 (UTC), Raymond Rayson <ray@nah.thx>
> wrote in <vu3b27$33j9j$1@paganini.bofh.team>:
> 
>> On 20 Apr 2025 15:09:21 GMT, vallor wrote:
>>
>> <snip>
>>
>>> it is a new kernel release, and the posts inform people that a) they
>>> are available, and b) that they build without error.
>>>
>>> You might also add -- in my case -- c) they work with the NVIDIA
>>> drivers,
>>
>> <snip>
>>
>>> Note that these posts are to encourage people to try building the
>>> vanilla kernel
>>
>> <snip>
>>
>> Good to know. Thanks vallor!
>> Might I suggest adding those tidbits to your posts? perhaps as a footer?
>> It's quite informative.
>>
>> Best,
>> Ray
> 
> I'll do that moving forward.
> 
> (I usually mention which NVIDIA binary blob I'm using, but it hasn't
> changed from the release drivers for several iterations.)
> 
so you broke that too

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#689320 — NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-575.51.02.run (was: Re: Linux 6.14.3)

Fromvallor <vallor@cultnix.org>
Date2025-04-21 20:28 +0000
SubjectNVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-575.51.02.run (was: Re: Linux 6.14.3)
Message-ID<m6no3qF5bcuU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#689312
On Mon, 21 Apr 2025 06:17:00 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote in
<2gadnSM96OTP2Jv1nZ2dnZfqnPadnZ2d@giganews.com>:

> vallor wrote:
>> (I usually mention which NVIDIA binary blob I'm using, but it hasn't
>> changed from the release drivers for several iterations.)
>> 
> so you broke that too

Nothing is "broken".

BTW, there's a new set of drivers from the NVIDIA web site -- a
new release driver and a new beta.  I'm now running the beta.

I still had to "skip-module-load" like this:

./NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-575.51.02.run --skip-module-load

(Something to do with module dependencies.)

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   OS: Linux 6.14.3 Release: Mint 22.1 Mem: 258G
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#689321 — Re: NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-575.51.02.run

From% <pursent100@gmail.com>
Date2025-04-21 13:33 -0700
SubjectRe: NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-575.51.02.run
Message-ID<ioidncTqmowrNpv1nZ2dnZfqn_SdnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#689320
vallor wrote:
> On Mon, 21 Apr 2025 06:17:00 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote in
> <2gadnSM96OTP2Jv1nZ2dnZfqnPadnZ2d@giganews.com>:
> 
>> vallor wrote:
>>> (I usually mention which NVIDIA binary blob I'm using, but it hasn't
>>> changed from the release drivers for several iterations.)
>>>
>> so you broke that too
> 
> Nothing is "broken".
> 
> BTW, there's a new set of drivers from the NVIDIA web site -- a
> new release driver and a new beta.  I'm now running the beta.
> 
> I still had to "skip-module-load" like this:
> 
> ./NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-575.51.02.run --skip-module-load
> 
> (Something to do with module dependencies.)
> 
and you use this application to do what ... exactly

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#689323 — Re: NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-575.51.02.run

Fromvallor <vallor@cultnix.org>
Date2025-04-21 21:20 +0000
SubjectRe: NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-575.51.02.run
Message-ID<m6nr4mF5pqpU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#689321
On Mon, 21 Apr 2025 13:33:57 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote in
<ioidncTqmowrNpv1nZ2dnZfqn_SdnZ2d@giganews.com>:

> vallor wrote:
>> On Mon, 21 Apr 2025 06:17:00 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote in
>> <2gadnSM96OTP2Jv1nZ2dnZfqnPadnZ2d@giganews.com>:
>> 
>>> vallor wrote:
>>>> (I usually mention which NVIDIA binary blob I'm using, but it hasn't
>>>> changed from the release drivers for several iterations.)
>>>>
>>> so you broke that too
>> 
>> Nothing is "broken".
>> 
>> BTW, there's a new set of drivers from the NVIDIA web site -- a new
>> release driver and a new beta.  I'm now running the beta.
>> 
>> I still had to "skip-module-load" like this:
>> 
>> ./NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-575.51.02.run --skip-module-load
>> 
>> (Something to do with module dependencies.)
>> 
> and you use this application to do what ... exactly

The video drivers are used to drive the video.

Without the video drivers, you won't have graphics for your
gui, or to to play kick-ass games like Elite Dangerous: Trailblazers.

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   OS: Linux 6.14.3 Release: Mint 22.1 Mem: 258G
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#689325 — Re: NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-575.51.02.run

From% <pursent100@gmail.com>
Date2025-04-21 14:48 -0700
SubjectRe: NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-575.51.02.run
Message-ID<9q6cnbqpvriCIJv1nZ2dnZfqnPSdnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#689323
vallor wrote:
> On Mon, 21 Apr 2025 13:33:57 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote in
> <ioidncTqmowrNpv1nZ2dnZfqn_SdnZ2d@giganews.com>:
> 
>> vallor wrote:
>>> On Mon, 21 Apr 2025 06:17:00 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote in
>>> <2gadnSM96OTP2Jv1nZ2dnZfqnPadnZ2d@giganews.com>:
>>>
>>>> vallor wrote:
>>>>> (I usually mention which NVIDIA binary blob I'm using, but it hasn't
>>>>> changed from the release drivers for several iterations.)
>>>>>
>>>> so you broke that too
>>>
>>> Nothing is "broken".
>>>
>>> BTW, there's a new set of drivers from the NVIDIA web site -- a new
>>> release driver and a new beta.  I'm now running the beta.
>>>
>>> I still had to "skip-module-load" like this:
>>>
>>> ./NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-575.51.02.run --skip-module-load
>>>
>>> (Something to do with module dependencies.)
>>>
>> and you use this application to do what ... exactly
> 
> The video drivers are used to drive the video.
> 
> Without the video drivers, you won't have graphics for your
> gui, or to to play kick-ass games like Elite Dangerous: Trailblazers.
> 
didn't your computer come with video drivers

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#689330 — Re: NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-575.51.02.run

Fromvallor <vallor@cultnix.org>
Date2025-04-21 22:29 +0000
SubjectRe: NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-575.51.02.run
Message-ID<m6nv5nF629vU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#689325
On Mon, 21 Apr 2025 14:48:10 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote in
<9q6cnbqpvriCIJv1nZ2dnZfqnPSdnZ2d@giganews.com>:

> vallor wrote:
>> On Mon, 21 Apr 2025 13:33:57 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote in
>> <ioidncTqmowrNpv1nZ2dnZfqn_SdnZ2d@giganews.com>:
>> 
>>> vallor wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 21 Apr 2025 06:17:00 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote in
>>>> <2gadnSM96OTP2Jv1nZ2dnZfqnPadnZ2d@giganews.com>:
>>>>
>>>>> vallor wrote:
>>>>>> (I usually mention which NVIDIA binary blob I'm using, but it
>>>>>> hasn't changed from the release drivers for several iterations.)
>>>>>>
>>>>> so you broke that too
>>>>
>>>> Nothing is "broken".
>>>>
>>>> BTW, there's a new set of drivers from the NVIDIA web site -- a new
>>>> release driver and a new beta.  I'm now running the beta.
>>>>
>>>> I still had to "skip-module-load" like this:
>>>>
>>>> ./NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-575.51.02.run --skip-module-load
>>>>
>>>> (Something to do with module dependencies.)
>>>>
>>> and you use this application to do what ... exactly
>> 
>> The video drivers are used to drive the video.
>> 
>> Without the video drivers, you won't have graphics for your gui, or to
>> to play kick-ass games like Elite Dangerous: Trailblazers.
>> 
> didn't your computer come with video drivers

Very, very old ones.

Anybody using a discrete video card is most likely
keeping up with video drivers.  NVIDIA and RADEON
are two such examples.

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#689334 — Re: NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-575.51.02.run

From% <pursent100@gmail.com>
Date2025-04-21 15:53 -0700
SubjectRe: NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-575.51.02.run
Message-ID<01mdnWqhwNj5UZv1nZ2dnZfqnPadnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#689330
vallor wrote:
> On Mon, 21 Apr 2025 14:48:10 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote in
> <9q6cnbqpvriCIJv1nZ2dnZfqnPSdnZ2d@giganews.com>:
> 
>> vallor wrote:
>>> On Mon, 21 Apr 2025 13:33:57 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote in
>>> <ioidncTqmowrNpv1nZ2dnZfqn_SdnZ2d@giganews.com>:
>>>
>>>> vallor wrote:
>>>>> On Mon, 21 Apr 2025 06:17:00 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote in
>>>>> <2gadnSM96OTP2Jv1nZ2dnZfqnPadnZ2d@giganews.com>:
>>>>>
>>>>>> vallor wrote:
>>>>>>> (I usually mention which NVIDIA binary blob I'm using, but it
>>>>>>> hasn't changed from the release drivers for several iterations.)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> so you broke that too
>>>>>
>>>>> Nothing is "broken".
>>>>>
>>>>> BTW, there's a new set of drivers from the NVIDIA web site -- a new
>>>>> release driver and a new beta.  I'm now running the beta.
>>>>>
>>>>> I still had to "skip-module-load" like this:
>>>>>
>>>>> ./NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-575.51.02.run --skip-module-load
>>>>>
>>>>> (Something to do with module dependencies.)
>>>>>
>>>> and you use this application to do what ... exactly
>>>
>>> The video drivers are used to drive the video.
>>>
>>> Without the video drivers, you won't have graphics for your gui, or to
>>> to play kick-ass games like Elite Dangerous: Trailblazers.
>>>
>> didn't your computer come with video drivers
> 
> Very, very old ones.
> 
> Anybody using a discrete video card is most likely
> keeping up with video drivers.  NVIDIA and RADEON
> are two such examples.
> 
and this is to play a game

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#689335 — Re: NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-575.51.02.run

Fromvallor <vallor@cultnix.org>
Date2025-04-22 00:48 +0000
SubjectRe: NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-575.51.02.run
Message-ID<m6o7a4F6oi7U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#689334
On Mon, 21 Apr 2025 15:53:19 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote in
<01mdnWqhwNj5UZv1nZ2dnZfqnPadnZ2d@giganews.com>:

> vallor wrote:
>> On Mon, 21 Apr 2025 14:48:10 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote in
>> <9q6cnbqpvriCIJv1nZ2dnZfqnPSdnZ2d@giganews.com>:
>> 
>>> vallor wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 21 Apr 2025 13:33:57 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote in
>>>> <ioidncTqmowrNpv1nZ2dnZfqn_SdnZ2d@giganews.com>:
>>>>
>>>>> vallor wrote:
>>>>>> On Mon, 21 Apr 2025 06:17:00 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>> in <2gadnSM96OTP2Jv1nZ2dnZfqnPadnZ2d@giganews.com>:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> vallor wrote:
>>>>>>>> (I usually mention which NVIDIA binary blob I'm using, but it
>>>>>>>> hasn't changed from the release drivers for several iterations.)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> so you broke that too
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nothing is "broken".
>>>>>>
>>>>>> BTW, there's a new set of drivers from the NVIDIA web site -- a new
>>>>>> release driver and a new beta.  I'm now running the beta.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I still had to "skip-module-load" like this:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ./NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-575.51.02.run --skip-module-load
>>>>>>
>>>>>> (Something to do with module dependencies.)
>>>>>>
>>>>> and you use this application to do what ... exactly
>>>>
>>>> The video drivers are used to drive the video.
>>>>
>>>> Without the video drivers, you won't have graphics for your gui, or
>>>> to to play kick-ass games like Elite Dangerous: Trailblazers.
>>>>
>>> didn't your computer come with video drivers
>> 
>> Very, very old ones.
>> 
>> Anybody using a discrete video card is most likely keeping up with
>> video drivers.  NVIDIA and RADEON are two such examples.
>> 
> and this is to play a game

That is one use of video drivers.

Another -- which you are probably more familiar with -- is
to display a gui for drooling over Usenet posts, Youtube,
and whatever else you fancy to look at.

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#689336 — Re: NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-575.51.02.run

From% <pursent100@gmail.com>
Date2025-04-21 17:55 -0700
SubjectRe: NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-575.51.02.run
Message-ID<166dnRCOENuYdJv1nZ2dnZfqn_qdnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#689335
vallor wrote:
> On Mon, 21 Apr 2025 15:53:19 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote in
> <01mdnWqhwNj5UZv1nZ2dnZfqnPadnZ2d@giganews.com>:
> 
>> vallor wrote:
>>> On Mon, 21 Apr 2025 14:48:10 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote in
>>> <9q6cnbqpvriCIJv1nZ2dnZfqnPSdnZ2d@giganews.com>:
>>>
>>>> vallor wrote:
>>>>> On Mon, 21 Apr 2025 13:33:57 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote in
>>>>> <ioidncTqmowrNpv1nZ2dnZfqn_SdnZ2d@giganews.com>:
>>>>>
>>>>>> vallor wrote:
>>>>>>> On Mon, 21 Apr 2025 06:17:00 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>> in <2gadnSM96OTP2Jv1nZ2dnZfqnPadnZ2d@giganews.com>:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> vallor wrote:
>>>>>>>>> (I usually mention which NVIDIA binary blob I'm using, but it
>>>>>>>>> hasn't changed from the release drivers for several iterations.)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> so you broke that too
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Nothing is "broken".
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> BTW, there's a new set of drivers from the NVIDIA web site -- a new
>>>>>>> release driver and a new beta.  I'm now running the beta.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I still had to "skip-module-load" like this:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ./NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-575.51.02.run --skip-module-load
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> (Something to do with module dependencies.)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> and you use this application to do what ... exactly
>>>>>
>>>>> The video drivers are used to drive the video.
>>>>>
>>>>> Without the video drivers, you won't have graphics for your gui, or
>>>>> to to play kick-ass games like Elite Dangerous: Trailblazers.
>>>>>
>>>> didn't your computer come with video drivers
>>>
>>> Very, very old ones.
>>>
>>> Anybody using a discrete video card is most likely keeping up with
>>> video drivers.  NVIDIA and RADEON are two such examples.
>>>
>> and this is to play a game
> 
> That is one use of video drivers.
> 
> Another -- which you are probably more familiar with -- is
> to display a gui for drooling over Usenet posts, Youtube,
> and whatever else you fancy to look at.
> 
but i don't use anything fancy to do that ,
in fact i don't go to posted youtubes

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#689340 — Re: NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-575.51.02.run

Fromvallor <vallor@cultnix.org>
Date2025-04-22 01:04 +0000
SubjectRe: NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-575.51.02.run
Message-ID<m6o881F6oi7U2@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#689336
On Mon, 21 Apr 2025 17:55:23 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote in
<166dnRCOENuYdJv1nZ2dnZfqn_qdnZ2d@giganews.com>:

> vallor wrote:
>> On Mon, 21 Apr 2025 15:53:19 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote in
>> <01mdnWqhwNj5UZv1nZ2dnZfqnPadnZ2d@giganews.com>:
>> 
>>> vallor wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 21 Apr 2025 14:48:10 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote in
>>>> <9q6cnbqpvriCIJv1nZ2dnZfqnPSdnZ2d@giganews.com>:
>>>>
>>>>> vallor wrote:
>>>>>> On Mon, 21 Apr 2025 13:33:57 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>> in <ioidncTqmowrNpv1nZ2dnZfqn_SdnZ2d@giganews.com>:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> vallor wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Mon, 21 Apr 2025 06:17:00 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote in <2gadnSM96OTP2Jv1nZ2dnZfqnPadnZ2d@giganews.com>:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> vallor wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> (I usually mention which NVIDIA binary blob I'm using, but it
>>>>>>>>>> hasn't changed from the release drivers for several
>>>>>>>>>> iterations.)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> so you broke that too
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Nothing is "broken".
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> BTW, there's a new set of drivers from the NVIDIA web site -- a
>>>>>>>> new release driver and a new beta.  I'm now running the beta.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I still had to "skip-module-load" like this:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ./NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-575.51.02.run --skip-module-load
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> (Something to do with module dependencies.)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> and you use this application to do what ... exactly
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The video drivers are used to drive the video.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Without the video drivers, you won't have graphics for your gui, or
>>>>>> to to play kick-ass games like Elite Dangerous: Trailblazers.
>>>>>>
>>>>> didn't your computer come with video drivers
>>>>
>>>> Very, very old ones.
>>>>
>>>> Anybody using a discrete video card is most likely keeping up with
>>>> video drivers.  NVIDIA and RADEON are two such examples.
>>>>
>>> and this is to play a game
>> 
>> That is one use of video drivers.
>> 
>> Another -- which you are probably more familiar with -- is to display a
>> gui for drooling over Usenet posts, Youtube,
>> and whatever else you fancy to look at.
>> 
> but i don't use anything fancy to do that ,
> in fact i don't go to posted youtubes

Unposted youtubes are more fun, anyway.

ObLinux:

Should mention that with NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-570.133.07 and
NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-575.51.02 Steam has been throwing an error:

MESA: error: DRM_VIRTGPU_RESOURCE_CREATE_BLOB failed with Invalid argument
MESA: error: Failed to create virtgpu AddressSpaceStream
MESA: error: vulkan: Failed to get host connection

Doesn't seem to affect gaming, but it's annoying.  Might have something
to do with my changes to my Linux .config, where I set some DRM modules
to "y" (add to kernel) instead of "m" (build as module).  Also some
related errors in dmesg.  Will have to investigate.

-- 
-v System76 Thelio Mega v1.1 x86_64 NVIDIA RTX 3090 Ti
   OS: Linux 6.14.3 Release: Mint 22.1 Mem: 258G
   "Walls impede my progress"

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#689339 — Re: NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-575.51.02.run

FromCrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge>
Date2025-04-21 21:02 -0400
SubjectRe: NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-575.51.02.run
Message-ID<cUBNP.143760$3te7.9770@fx03.iad>
In reply to#689325
On 4/21/25 17:48, % wrote:
> vallor wrote:
>> On Mon, 21 Apr 2025 13:33:57 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote in
>> <ioidncTqmowrNpv1nZ2dnZfqn_SdnZ2d@giganews.com>:
>>
>>> vallor wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 21 Apr 2025 06:17:00 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote in
>>>> <2gadnSM96OTP2Jv1nZ2dnZfqnPadnZ2d@giganews.com>:
>>>>
>>>>> vallor wrote:
>>>>>> (I usually mention which NVIDIA binary blob I'm using, but it hasn't
>>>>>> changed from the release drivers for several iterations.)
>>>>>>
>>>>> so you broke that too
>>>>
>>>> Nothing is "broken".
>>>>
>>>> BTW, there's a new set of drivers from the NVIDIA web site -- a new
>>>> release driver and a new beta.  I'm now running the beta.
>>>>
>>>> I still had to "skip-module-load" like this:
>>>>
>>>> ./NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-575.51.02.run --skip-module-load
>>>>
>>>> (Something to do with module dependencies.)
>>>>
>>> and you use this application to do what ... exactly
>>
>> The video drivers are used to drive the video.
>>
>> Without the video drivers, you won't have graphics for your
>> gui, or to to play kick-ass games like Elite Dangerous: Trailblazers.
>>
> didn't your computer come with video drivers

I'm actually looking forward to playing the games vallor is citing 
there. I have yet to play Everspace, but I'm sure I'll dig it. Elite 
Dangerous is probably right up my alley too. As far as I know, both 
those games run natively in Linux.

-- 
God be with you,

CrudeSausage
LibreOffice supporter
John 14:6

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#689284

FromFarley Flud <ff@linux.rocks>
Date2025-04-20 19:43 +0000
Message-ID<pan$57afc$ad87fb86$11ab1207$d4822122@linux.rocks>
In reply to#689277
On 20 Apr 2025 15:09:21 GMT, vallor wrote:

> 
> (Note that these posts are to encourage people to try building the
> vanilla kernel...which isn't for casual users!)
> 

As I have indicated time and time again, building the kernel
is a simple task.  However, CONFIGURING the kernel is the
important and difficult issue.

Why bother building a "vanilla" kernel when it is the same thing
that the distros provide?

But the distros cannot provide a kernel that is configured specifically
for ones hardware, and building such a kernel should be the goal of
all GNU/Linux users.

Having said that, it is quite useless to build kernel sub-minor versions,
i.e. 6.14.X unless there is a pressing need, which for the "casual"
user there is not.


-- 
Systemd: solving all the problems that you never knew you had.

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#689278

FromCrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge>
Date2025-04-20 11:24 -0400
Message-ID<Qk8NP.644174$l0_4.126817@fx43.iad>
In reply to#689276
On 4/20/25 10:46, % wrote:
> vallor wrote:
>> $ uname -a
>> Linux lm 6.14.3 #1 SMP PREEMPT Sun Apr 20 04:16:54 PDT 2025 x86_64 x86_64
>> x86_64 GNU/Linux
>>
>> $ tail -3 nohup.out
>> real 441.53
>> user 21535.94
>> sys 3744.47
>>
> what purpose does this post serve anyone and why do you keep repeating it

He's boasting of his ability to update the kernel.

-- 
God be with you,

CrudeSausage
LibreOffice supporter
John 14:6

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