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Linux provides software to study the Bible, out of the box CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-04-15 19:57 -0400
Re: Linux provides software to study the Bible, out of the box rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-04-16 01:05 +0000
Re: Linux provides software to study the Bible, out of the box CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-04-15 21:15 -0400
Re: Linux provides software to study the Bible, out of the box rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-04-16 06:00 +0000
Re: Linux provides software to study the Bible, out of the box vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-04-16 11:05 +0000
Re: Linux provides software to study the Bible, out of the box rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-04-16 18:24 +0000
Re: Linux provides software to study the Bible, out of the box vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-04-16 22:13 +0000
Re: Linux provides software to study the Bible, out of the box rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-04-16 23:41 +0000
Re: Linux provides software to study the Bible, out of the box CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-04-16 19:48 -0400
Re: Linux provides software to study the Bible, out of the box snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2025-04-17 01:06 +0100
Re: Linux provides software to study the Bible, out of the box CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-04-17 08:44 -0400
Re: Linux provides software to study the Bible, out of the box rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-04-17 04:13 +0000
Re: Linux provides software to study the Bible, out of the box CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-04-17 08:49 -0400
Re: Linux provides software to study the Bible, out of the box Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-04-17 13:58 +0000
Re: Linux provides software to study the Bible, out of the box CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-04-17 10:11 -0400
Re: Linux provides software to study the Bible, out of the box rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-04-17 23:25 +0000
Re: Linux provides software to study the Bible, out of the box vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-04-16 11:09 +0000
Re: Linux provides software to study the Bible, out of the box vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-04-17 11:35 +0000
Re: Linux provides software to study the Bible, out of the box rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-04-17 14:21 +0000
Re: Linux provides software to study the Bible, out of the box % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2025-04-17 08:13 -0700
Re: Linux provides software to study the Bible, out of the box rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-04-17 23:28 +0000
Re: Linux provides software to study the Bible, out of the box CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-04-16 08:50 -0400
Re: Linux provides software to study the Bible, out of the box RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-04-17 08:19 +0000
Re: Linux provides software to study the Bible, out of the box CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-04-17 08:57 -0400
Re: Linux provides software to study the Bible, out of the box RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-04-16 12:50 +0000
Re: Linux provides software to study the Bible, out of the box CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-04-16 09:03 -0400
Re: Linux provides software to study the Bible, out of the box snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2025-04-16 14:55 +0100
Re: Linux provides software to study the Bible, out of the box CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-04-16 10:07 -0400
Re: Linux provides software to study the Bible, out of the box rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-04-16 19:01 +0000
Re: Linux provides software to study the Bible, out of the box Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> - 2025-04-16 21:14 +0000
Re: Linux provides software to study the Bible, out of the box vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-04-16 22:19 +0000
Re: Linux provides software to study the Bible, out of the box RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-04-17 08:50 +0000
Re: Linux provides software to study the Bible, out of the box CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-04-17 09:00 -0400
Re: Linux provides software to study the Bible, out of the box Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-04-17 13:56 +0000
Re: Linux provides software to study the Bible, out of the box CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-04-17 10:08 -0400
Re: Linux provides software to study the Bible, out of the box RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-04-18 00:11 +0000
Re: Linux provides software to study the Bible, out of the box rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-04-17 23:19 +0000
Re: Linux provides software to study the Bible, out of the box Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-04-18 20:50 +0000
Re: Linux provides software to study the Bible, out of the box RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-04-18 21:20 +0000
Re: Linux provides software to study the Bible, out of the box rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-04-19 00:24 +0000
Re: Linux provides software to study the Bible, out of the box RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-04-18 00:05 +0000
Re: Linux provides software to study the Bible, out of the box rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-04-17 14:30 +0000
Re: Linux provides software to study the Bible, out of the box CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-04-17 12:20 -0400
Re: Linux provides software to study the Bible, out of the box Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> - 2025-04-17 19:17 +0000
Re: Linux provides software to study the Bible, out of the box rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-04-18 00:11 +0000
Re: Linux provides software to study the Bible, out of the box RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-04-17 23:37 +0000
Re: Linux provides software to study the Bible, out of the box rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-04-16 18:42 +0000
Re: Linux provides software to study the Bible, out of the box RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-04-17 09:02 +0000
Re: Linux provides software to study the Bible, out of the box rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-04-17 14:16 +0000
Re: Linux provides software to study the Bible, out of the box RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-04-18 00:15 +0000
Re: Linux provides software to study the Bible, out of the box Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-04-16 22:10 -0400
Re: Linux provides software to study the Bible, out of the box Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-04-17 19:26 +0000
Re: Linux provides software to study the Bible, out of the box CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-04-17 17:36 -0400
Re: Linux provides software to study the Bible, out of the box Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-04-18 20:54 -0400
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| From | RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-04-18 00:05 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrn10035r4.1gth.ronb02NOSPAM@3020m.home> |
| In reply to | #689083 |
On 2025-04-17, Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On 2025-04-17, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
>> On 2025-04-17 04:50, RonB wrote:
>>> On 2025-04-16, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
>>>> On 2025-04-16 08:50, RonB wrote:
>>>>> On 2025-04-16, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
>>>>>> On 4/15/25 21:05, rbowman wrote:
>>>>>>> On Tue, 15 Apr 2025 19:57:01 -0400, CrudeSausage wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I know that it probably won't interest most people, but I thought that
>>>>>>>> was pretty cool. Knowing that a distribution provides not only the Bible
>>>>>>>> but notes to help you study the content is neat. Maybe if our resident
>>>>>>>> homosexual gets acquainted with it, he will have a chance of avoiding
>>>>>>>> Hell.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Are you talking about UbuntuCE? If you're looking for enlightenment out
>>>>>>> of the box:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://www.bodhilinux.com/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Bodhi Linux appears to be more of a minimalist philosophical statement
>>>>>>> rather than any specific Buddhist content.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Actually, I was referring to Xiphos which allows you to download your
>>>>>> choice of Bible version from within the software.
>>>>>
>>>>> Apparently no Catholic Bible with the deuterocanonicals. I'm guessing their
>>>>> notes are skewed against the Catholic Church. Hopefully they're not relying
>>>>> on the Scofield Bible notes in any way.
>>>>
>>>> That is quite possible. I downloaded the New English Translation, but I
>>>> have no idea whether it skews in one way or another. According to some
>>>> experts I've read from, Bibles vary from one region to another with some
>>>> having more chapters than others, but their meaning is essentially the
>>>> same. Apparently, there are about forty differences in the wording used,
>>>> but the meaning isn't altered in any way.
>>>>
>>>> I trust the Bible, but I don't trust the interpretations made by
>>>> homosexuals or progressives.
>>>
>>> The deuterocanonicals are an important part of the Bible. They clearly
>>> pointed to Christ, which is why the Jews eventually threw them out, and
>>> Protestants followed their example.
>>>
>>> Here's an excerpt from Wisdom 2:12-20. This may help explain why the Jews
>>> rejected the deuterocanonicals (they were originally in the LXX or
>>> Septuagint, the Greek translation of the Hebrew Bible).
>>>
>>> 12. “Let us lie in wait for the righteous man, because he is inconvenient
>>> to us and opposes our actions; he reproaches us for sins against the law,
>>> and accuses us of sins against our training. 13. He professes to have
>>> knowledge of God, and calls himself a child of the Lord. 14. He became to
>>> us a reproof of our thoughts; 15. the very sight of him is a burden to us,
>>> because his manner of life is unlike that of others, and his ways are
>>> strange. 16. We are considered by him as something base, and he avoids our
>>> ways as unclean; he calls the last end of the righteous happy, and boasts
>>> that God is his father. 17. Let us see if his words are true, and let us
>>> test what will happen at the end of his life; 18. for if the righteous man
>>> is God’s son, he will help him and will deliver him from the hand of his
>>> adversaries. 19. Let us test him with insult and torture, that we may find
>>> out how gentle he is, and make trial of his forbearance. 20. Let us
>>> condemn him to a shameful death, for, according to what he says, he will
>>> be protected.”
>>>
>>> This was written centuries before Christ's death on the cross. There's also
>>> a lot about the Virgin Mary in the deuterocanonicals, as interpreted by
>>> Catholic saints.
>>
>> The fact that such a thing would be written centuries before Christ and
>> that the events would unfold in almost exactly the same manner only
>> confirms that Jesus was exactly the Messiah the Jews were waiting for.
>> Their continued resistance to Him is ridiculous.
>>
>> Where would I be able to find the deuterocanonicals?
>>
>
> Why do Americans use the term Judeo-Christian so much, and why do
> American Christians have such a hard on for Israel? You think they'd be
> a bit more sceptical of a people who SPECIFICALLY rejected Christ.
>
> Its like Linux supporters supporting Steve Ballmer...
It's not accidental. "Christian" Zionism has been pushed on Americans for
over a century via Scofield's Bible commentaries. It's also where we get the
"rapture," the rebuilding of the Temple (why?) and a lot of other malarkey
totally unrelated to Christianity. Even to the point that Christians believe
they should be subservient to "God's chosen people" who rejected Christ and
blaspheme Him in their Talmud. St. John referred to these Jews who opposed
Christianity and killed Christians as those "who say they are the Jews, but
are not." but are the "synagogue of Satan" twice in the Apocalypse
(Revelation).
7. He, that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith to the
churches: To him, that overcometh, I will give to eat of the tree of
life, which is in the paradise of my God. 8. And to the angel of the
church of Smyrna write: These things saith the First and the Last, who
was dead, and is alive: 9. I know thy tribulation and thy poverty, but
thou art rich: and thou art blasphemed by them that say they are Jews
and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan. 10. Fear none of those
things which thou shalt suffer. Behold, the devil will cast some of you
into prison that you may be tried: and you shall have tribulation ten
days. Be thou faithful until death: and I will give thee the crown of
life. —Revelation 2
7. And to the angel of the church of Philadelphia, write: These things
saith the Holy One and the true one, he that hath the key of David; he
that openeth, and no man shutteth; shutteth, and no man openeth: 8. I
know thy works. Behold, I have given before thee a door opened, which no
man can shut: because thou hast a little strength, and hast kept my
word, and hast not denied my name. 9. Behold, I will bring of the
synagogue of Satan, who say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie.
Behold, I will make them to come and adore before thy feet. And they
shall know that I have loved thee. 10. Because thou hast kept the word of
my patience, I will also keep thee from the hour of the temptation,
which shall come upon the whole world to try them that dwell upon the
earth. —Revelation 3
There's are a lot of passages (even in the Gospels) that show that those who
followed the "traditions of the elders" and those who believed in God and
His Son, Jesus, were in opposition from the beginning. You'll find the
phrase "for fear Jews" many times in the New Testament. There is no such
thing as "Judeo-Christian." There are Old Testament (Israelite) worshipers
of the True God who looked forward to the coming of the Messiah and
converted to Christianity when He arrived. And there are the Rabbinical Jews
who opposed Christianity, who created a new religion based on the
"traditions of the elders," which became the Satanic Talmud.
--
“Evil is not able to create anything new, it can only distort and destroy
what has been invented or made by the forces of good.” —J.R.R. Tolkien
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2025-04-17 14:30 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <m6chkeFa1coU4@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #689081 |
On Thu, 17 Apr 2025 09:00:52 -0400, CrudeSausage wrote: > Where would I be able to find the deuterocanonicals? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deuterocanonical_books Some Protestant bibles will refer to them as Apocrypha, others omit them entirely. Part is political. For example Maccabees II refers to prayers for the dead which many Protestant denominations reject. Leave out what you don't like. Luther's first translation left out James, which he referred to as 'that epistle of straw'. The worth of faith without works went against his 'sola fides' doctrine. Similarly the 10 Commandments are parsed differently. Protestants wanted to come down heavy on the 'no graven images' since they did not appreciate religious art.
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| From | CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> |
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| Date | 2025-04-17 12:20 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <tT9MP.949170$f81.631542@fx48.iad> |
| In reply to | #689093 |
On 2025-04-17 10:30, rbowman wrote: > On Thu, 17 Apr 2025 09:00:52 -0400, CrudeSausage wrote: > >> Where would I be able to find the deuterocanonicals? > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deuterocanonical_books > > Some Protestant bibles will refer to them as Apocrypha, others omit them > entirely. Part is political. For example Maccabees II refers to prayers > for the dead which many Protestant denominations reject. Leave out what > you don't like. > > Luther's first translation left out James, which he referred to as 'that > epistle of straw'. The worth of faith without works went against his 'sola > fides' doctrine. > > Similarly the 10 Commandments are parsed differently. Protestants wanted > to come down heavy on the 'no graven images' since they did not appreciate > religious art. > I'm the type of person who, when told not to look in a certain direction, will do nothing other than look in that direction. If there is a way to get the deutorocanonicals easily, I will be happy to read them all, especially considering the passage RonB cited. -- God be with you, CrudeSausage LibreOffice supporter John 14:6
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| From | Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> |
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| Date | 2025-04-17 19:17 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <pan$2760f$30dd8c18$4def6d26$203e5f7d@linux.rocks> |
| In reply to | #689098 |
On Thu, 17 Apr 2025 12:20:41 -0400, CrudeSausage wrote: > > If there > is a way to get the deutorocanonicals easily, I will be happy to read > them all, > Hey, stupid fuck. Did I not mention the "Apocrypha" in a previous post? Yes, I most certainly did. There is the answer to your dumb-fuck question. What an infernal idiot! But you missed it, just like you miss everything else except the clues to your own stupidity. -- Systemd: solving all the problems that you never knew you had.
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2025-04-18 00:11 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <m6djltFesflU5@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #689098 |
On Thu, 17 Apr 2025 12:20:41 -0400, CrudeSausage wrote: > I'm the type of person who, when told not to look in a certain > direction, will do nothing other than look in that direction. If there > is a way to get the deutorocanonicals easily, I will be happy to read > them all, especially considering the passage RonB cited. https://archive.org/details/thejerusalembible1966 I have the hardcopy but I assume the odering is the same. There isn't exactly a red flag saying 'deuterocanonical' The OT is ordered into the Pentateuch, Historical Books, Wisdom Books, and the Prophets. Tobit, Judith, Esther, Maccabees I and II follow Ezra in Historical. Wisdom and *Ecclesiaticus follow The Song of Songs. (not Ecclesiastes which is before the Song of Songs) Baruch and Daniel are in Prophets, after Lamentations. The footnote says some editions may omit the books entirely, put them into Apocrypha, or in the case of Esther and Daniel, edit out parts. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_Bible *also called Sirach You can research why the Protestants used the Masoretic Text rather than the Septuagint. A fun fact is some quotations in the NT are from the Septuagint, not the Hebrew text. Another oddity is when the Psalms were translated into Greek (because most Jews couldn't read Hebrew any more) the ordering wasn't the same. The Jerusalem Bible (1966) uses the Hebrew numbering but in the Catholic bible when I was growing up 'The Lord is my shepherd' was Psalm 22, not 23, confusing the hell out of me. As far as I'm concerned the Catholic Church wrote the book, or at least the canon, in 382. Over 1000 years of tradition wasn't good enough for the 'reformers'. Good luck with your bible studies. There was a lot of sausage making going on. If Marcion had won the OT would be gone, and the NT would be Luke and some of Paul's epistles where he wasn't oo far off track.
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| From | RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-04-17 23:37 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrn100344u.1gth.ronb02NOSPAM@3020m.home> |
| In reply to | #689081 |
On 2025-04-17, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote: > On 2025-04-17 04:50, RonB wrote: >> On 2025-04-16, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote: >>> On 2025-04-16 08:50, RonB wrote: >>>> On 2025-04-16, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote: >>>>> On 4/15/25 21:05, rbowman wrote: >>>>>> On Tue, 15 Apr 2025 19:57:01 -0400, CrudeSausage wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I know that it probably won't interest most people, but I thought that >>>>>>> was pretty cool. Knowing that a distribution provides not only the Bible >>>>>>> but notes to help you study the content is neat. Maybe if our resident >>>>>>> homosexual gets acquainted with it, he will have a chance of avoiding >>>>>>> Hell. >>>>>> >>>>>> Are you talking about UbuntuCE? If you're looking for enlightenment out >>>>>> of the box: >>>>>> >>>>>> https://www.bodhilinux.com/ >>>>>> >>>>>> Bodhi Linux appears to be more of a minimalist philosophical statement >>>>>> rather than any specific Buddhist content. >>>>> >>>>> Actually, I was referring to Xiphos which allows you to download your >>>>> choice of Bible version from within the software. >>>> >>>> Apparently no Catholic Bible with the deuterocanonicals. I'm guessing their >>>> notes are skewed against the Catholic Church. Hopefully they're not relying >>>> on the Scofield Bible notes in any way. >>> >>> That is quite possible. I downloaded the New English Translation, but I >>> have no idea whether it skews in one way or another. According to some >>> experts I've read from, Bibles vary from one region to another with some >>> having more chapters than others, but their meaning is essentially the >>> same. Apparently, there are about forty differences in the wording used, >>> but the meaning isn't altered in any way. >>> >>> I trust the Bible, but I don't trust the interpretations made by >>> homosexuals or progressives. >> >> The deuterocanonicals are an important part of the Bible. They clearly >> pointed to Christ, which is why the Jews eventually threw them out, and >> Protestants followed their example. >> >> Here's an excerpt from Wisdom 2:12-20. This may help explain why the Jews >> rejected the deuterocanonicals (they were originally in the LXX or >> Septuagint, the Greek translation of the Hebrew Bible). >> >> 12. “Let us lie in wait for the righteous man, because he is inconvenient >> to us and opposes our actions; he reproaches us for sins against the law, >> and accuses us of sins against our training. 13. He professes to have >> knowledge of God, and calls himself a child of the Lord. 14. He became to >> us a reproof of our thoughts; 15. the very sight of him is a burden to us, >> because his manner of life is unlike that of others, and his ways are >> strange. 16. We are considered by him as something base, and he avoids our >> ways as unclean; he calls the last end of the righteous happy, and boasts >> that God is his father. 17. Let us see if his words are true, and let us >> test what will happen at the end of his life; 18. for if the righteous man >> is God’s son, he will help him and will deliver him from the hand of his >> adversaries. 19. Let us test him with insult and torture, that we may find >> out how gentle he is, and make trial of his forbearance. 20. Let us >> condemn him to a shameful death, for, according to what he says, he will >> be protected.” >> >> This was written centuries before Christ's death on the cross. There's also >> a lot about the Virgin Mary in the deuterocanonicals, as interpreted by >> Catholic saints. > > The fact that such a thing would be written centuries before Christ and > that the events would unfold in almost exactly the same manner only > confirms that Jesus was exactly the Messiah the Jews were waiting for. > Their continued resistance to Him is ridiculous. > > Where would I be able to find the deuterocanonicals? In Catholic Bibles. I like the Douay-Rheims version, but there are also more modern versions. https://www.drbo.org/ https://www.catholic.org/bible/ -- “Evil is not able to create anything new, it can only distort and destroy what has been invented or made by the forces of good.” —J.R.R. Tolkien
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2025-04-16 18:42 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <m6ac1hFtqq0U2@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #689024 |
On Wed, 16 Apr 2025 12:50:30 -0000 (UTC), RonB wrote: > Apparently no Catholic Bible with the deuterocanonicals. I'm guessing > their notes are skewed against the Catholic Church. Hopefully they're > not relying on the Scofield Bible notes in any way. https://www.crosswire.org/ Their materials seem to be whatever is floating around in the public domain but I doubt there are many Catholics among them. I know the official line but bible study wasn't a big thing in my experience (pre- Vatican).
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| From | RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-04-17 09:02 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrn1001gtl.jlh.ronb02NOSPAM@3020m.home> |
| In reply to | #689040 |
On 2025-04-16, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote: > On Wed, 16 Apr 2025 12:50:30 -0000 (UTC), RonB wrote: > >> Apparently no Catholic Bible with the deuterocanonicals. I'm guessing >> their notes are skewed against the Catholic Church. Hopefully they're >> not relying on the Scofield Bible notes in any way. > > https://www.crosswire.org/ > > Their materials seem to be whatever is floating around in the public > domain but I doubt there are many Catholics among them. I know the > official line but bible study wasn't a big thing in my experience (pre- > Vatican). The Missal used at the Traditional Mass was full of the Bible. And the Douay Rheims English Bible predates the King James version. You might want to read "Where We Got the Bible: Our Debt to the Catholic Church" by Bishop Graham, who converted to Catholicism from Calvinism. https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=hvd.hwpktk&seq=1 Out of curiosity, where you alive pre-Vatican II? I thought you were younger than that. -- “Evil is not able to create anything new, it can only distort and destroy what has been invented or made by the forces of good.” —J.R.R. Tolkien
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2025-04-17 14:16 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <m6cgqjFa1coU2@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #689065 |
On Thu, 17 Apr 2025 09:02:49 -0000 (UTC), RonB wrote: > Out of curiosity, where you alive pre-Vatican II? I thought you were > younger than that. I was a college sophomore when Vatican II concluded in 1965. A local church live streams the Mass and what I see there is terra incognita.
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| From | RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-04-18 00:15 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrn10036d7.1gth.ronb02NOSPAM@3020m.home> |
| In reply to | #689090 |
On 2025-04-17, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote: > On Thu, 17 Apr 2025 09:02:49 -0000 (UTC), RonB wrote: > >> Out of curiosity, where you alive pre-Vatican II? I thought you were >> younger than that. > > I was a college sophomore when Vatican II concluded in 1965. A local > church live streams the Mass and what I see there is terra incognita. That question was for CrudeSausage, I know you were alive during Vatican II. I was alive, but I wasn't Catholic at the time. -- “Evil is not able to create anything new, it can only distort and destroy what has been invented or made by the forces of good.” —J.R.R. Tolkien
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| From | Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-04-16 22:10 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <5lo00kh2mqrqk90p7bad7r8ua1fbaqnfne@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #689003 |
CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote: >I know that it probably won't interest most people, but I thought that >was pretty cool. Knowing that a distribution provides not only the Bible >but notes to help you study the content is neat. Maybe if our resident >homosexual gets acquainted with it, he will have a chance of avoiding Hell. Dude - in John 6:27, Jesus Christ of Nazareth says that I give you eternal life. That's therefore pretty fucking funny, that you'd think my sexuality leads to hell. lol -- Joel W. Crump Amendment XIV Section 1. [...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws. Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.
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| From | Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> |
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| Date | 2025-04-17 19:26 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <680155f2$0$16826$426a74cc@news.free.fr> |
| In reply to | #689003 |
Le 15-04-2025, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> a écrit : > Maybe if our resident homosexual gets acquainted with it, he will have > a chance of avoiding Hell. Maybe, one day, you'll find out people don't choose to be homosexual or heterosexual. And, that day, maybe you'll become more christian than what you pretend to be. maybe you'll try to help people, like Jesus did, instead of trying to kill them, like only catholics, following money more than God, do. -- Si vous avez du temps à perdre : https://scarpet42.gitlab.io
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| From | CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> |
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| Date | 2025-04-17 17:36 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <RveMP.370665$D41.93833@fx45.iad> |
| In reply to | #689103 |
On 4/17/25 15:26, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote: > Le 15-04-2025, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> a écrit : >> Maybe if our resident homosexual gets acquainted with it, he will have >> a chance of avoiding Hell. > > Maybe, one day, you'll find out people don't choose to be homosexual or > heterosexual It used to be that the person who sexually molested them as children did that for them, but nowadays, people are indeed choosing to be homosexuals. The number of homosexuals exploded with the woke movement. > And, that day, maybe you'll become more christian than > what you pretend to be. maybe you'll try to help people, like Jesus did, > instead of trying to kill them, like only catholics, following money more > than God, do. I have no interest in what you believe Christians are supposed to be like. -- God be with you, CrudeSausage LibreOffice supporter John 14:6
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| From | Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-04-18 20:54 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <ors50kloc3ige43gvqkgggfqn0f6rmp13l@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #689003 |
CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote: >I know that it probably won't interest most people, but I thought that >was pretty cool. Knowing that a distribution provides not only the Bible >but notes to help you study the content is neat. Maybe if our resident >homosexual gets acquainted with it, he will have a chance of avoiding Hell. As the resident semi-homosexual I am appalled that you allow Paul to use anti-homosexual stuff. He gifted himself that, in being my dad, even though he had to admit that I was a normal guy while being bi. -- Joel W. Crump Amendment XIV Section 1. [...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws. Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.
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