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For The Gamers

Started byrbowman <bowman@montana.com>
First post2024-12-21 19:02 +0000
Last post2024-12-28 02:27 +0000
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  For The Gamers rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-21 19:02 +0000
    Re: For The Gamers CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-21 14:42 -0500
      Re: For The Gamers Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> - 2024-12-21 20:43 +0000
        Re: For The Gamers Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2024-12-21 22:09 +0000
          Re: For The Gamers Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> - 2024-12-21 22:20 +0000
            Re: For The Gamers Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-21 17:25 -0500
              Re: For The Gamers Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2024-12-22 10:05 +0000
            Re: For The Gamers DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> - 2024-12-21 23:08 -0500
        Re: For The Gamers Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2024-12-21 19:20 -0600
        Re: For The Gamers DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> - 2024-12-21 22:45 -0500
        Re: For The Gamers Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2024-12-22 08:30 -0500
        Re: For The Gamers DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> - 2025-01-07 22:05 -0500
          Re: For The Gamers Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-07 22:21 -0500
          Re: For The Gamers CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-01-08 09:12 -0500
            Re: For The Gamers chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2025-01-09 07:17 -0600
              Re: For The Gamers CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-01-09 10:39 -0500
                Re: For The Gamers chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2025-01-11 08:15 -0600
                  Re: For The Gamers Farley Flud <fflud@gnu.rocks> - 2025-01-11 18:34 +0000
                    Re: For The Gamers Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-01-11 19:31 +0000
                      Re: For The Gamers Farley Flud <fflud@gnu.rocks> - 2025-01-11 19:51 +0000
                        Re: For The Gamers Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-01-11 21:35 +0000
                      Re: For The Gamers chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2025-01-11 17:47 -0600
                        Re: For The Gamers pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2025-01-12 01:16 +0000
                          Re: For The Gamers rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-12 01:36 +0000
                            Re: For The Gamers Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-01-12 11:12 +0000
                              Re: For The Gamers rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-12 20:39 +0000
                          Re: For The Gamers chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2025-01-11 19:53 -0600
                        Re: For The Gamers Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> - 2025-01-12 13:35 +0000
                          Re: For The Gamers Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-01-12 15:58 +0000
                            Re: For The Gamers Farley Flud <fflud@gnu.rocks> - 2025-01-12 16:21 +0000
                      Re: For The Gamers Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> - 2025-01-12 09:08 +0000
                        Re: For The Gamers DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> - 2025-01-12 09:48 -0500
                          Re: For The Gamers Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-01-12 16:09 +0000
                    Re: For The Gamers DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> - 2025-01-11 16:44 -0500
                  Re: For The Gamers CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-01-11 13:40 -0500
                    Re: For The Gamers chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2025-01-11 16:50 -0600
                      Re: For The Gamers CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-01-11 17:58 -0500
                      Re: For The Gamers rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-12 01:51 +0000
                      Re: For The Gamers -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-01-12 06:31 -0500
                  Re: For The Gamers rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-11 21:04 +0000
                    Re: For The Gamers Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-01-12 07:35 -0500
                      Re: For The Gamers Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-01-12 13:05 +0000
                        Re: For The Gamers DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> - 2025-01-12 09:43 -0500
                          Re: For The Gamers Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-01-12 16:01 +0000
                            Re: For The Gamers Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-01-12 11:36 -0500
                        Re: For The Gamers rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-12 20:32 +0000
      Re: For The Gamers RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2024-12-21 22:36 +0000
        Re: For The Gamers snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2024-12-21 22:48 +0000
          Re: For The Gamers Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-21 18:05 -0500
          Re: For The Gamers RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2024-12-22 05:25 +0000
            Re: For The Gamers rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-22 06:06 +0000
              Re: For The Gamers CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-22 07:39 -0500
                Re: For The Gamers RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2024-12-23 06:30 +0000
                  Re: For The Gamers rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-23 08:37 +0000
                    Re: For The Gamers RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2024-12-24 09:17 +0000
                  Re: For The Gamers CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-23 11:55 -0500
                    Re: For The Gamers RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2024-12-24 09:44 +0000
                      Re: For The Gamers rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-24 19:14 +0000
                        Re: For The Gamers Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2024-12-25 06:53 -0500
                          Re: For The Gamers Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2024-12-27 17:35 -0500
                      Re: For The Gamers Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2024-12-27 17:54 -0500
                        Re: For The Gamers RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2024-12-28 02:42 +0000
                          Re: For The Gamers Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2024-12-27 22:18 -0500
                            Re: For The Gamers RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2024-12-28 07:15 +0000
        Re: For The Gamers CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-21 18:18 -0500
          Re: For The Gamers RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2024-12-22 05:30 +0000
            Re: For The Gamers rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-22 06:03 +0000
              Re: For The Gamers RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2024-12-22 08:33 +0000
                Re: For The Gamers rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-22 09:39 +0000
                  Re: For The Gamers RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2024-12-23 06:00 +0000
            Re: For The Gamers CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-22 07:22 -0500
              Re: For The Gamers RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2024-12-23 06:21 +0000
                Re: For The Gamers CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-23 11:51 -0500
                  Re: For The Gamers RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2024-12-24 09:39 +0000
                    Re: For The Gamers rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-24 19:00 +0000
                    Re: For The Gamers Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2024-12-27 17:51 -0500
                      Re: For The Gamers RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2024-12-28 02:41 +0000
                        Re: For The Gamers Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2024-12-27 22:05 -0500
                          Re: For The Gamers RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2024-12-28 07:14 +0000
                            Re: For The Gamers Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2024-12-28 08:28 -0500
                              Re: For The Gamers RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2024-12-29 07:45 +0000
                                Re: For The Gamers Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2024-12-29 07:27 -0500
                                Re: For The Gamers rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-29 21:23 +0000
      Re: For The Gamers chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2024-12-21 18:50 -0600
        Re: For The Gamers CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-22 07:14 -0500
          Re: For The Gamers chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2024-12-22 10:40 -0600
            Re: For The Gamers CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-22 11:54 -0500
              Re: For The Gamers RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2024-12-23 06:12 +0000
            Re: For The Gamers RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2024-12-23 06:11 +0000
              Re: For The Gamers CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-23 11:43 -0500
          Re: For The Gamers RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2024-12-23 06:10 +0000
            Re: For The Gamers CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-23 11:42 -0500
          Re: For The Gamers -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-12-23 06:29 -0500
            Re: For The Gamers Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2024-12-23 07:51 -0500
              Re: For The Gamers -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-12-23 19:18 -0500
    Re: For The Gamers RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2024-12-21 22:31 +0000
    Re: For The Gamers vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2024-12-21 23:35 +0000
      Re: For The Gamers chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2024-12-21 18:52 -0600
      Re: For The Gamers Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2024-12-22 10:09 +0000
        Re: For The Gamers CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-22 07:42 -0500
          Re: For The Gamers Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2024-12-22 12:57 +0000
          Re: For The Gamers RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2024-12-23 06:04 +0000
            Re: For The Gamers rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-23 08:28 +0000
              Re: For The Gamers CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-23 12:01 -0500
            Re: For The Gamers CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-23 11:38 -0500
              Re: For The Gamers RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2024-12-24 09:31 +0000
                Re: For The Gamers rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-24 19:04 +0000
                Re: For The Gamers Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2024-12-27 17:47 -0500
                  Re: For The Gamers RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2024-12-28 02:27 +0000

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#681569

FromRonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com>
Date2024-12-29 07:45 +0000
Message-ID<vkqunh$r9pg$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#681457
On 2024-12-28, Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> wrote:
> On 2024-12-28 02:14, RonB wrote:
>
>>> That's probably true. I never got too far into using it because the
>>> "legal" license I bought on eBay turned out not to be legal. One update
>>> later and poof, no more functionality.
>> 
>> Sorry to hear that. I, personally, never was a big WordPerfect fan. My
>> "favorite" Windows word processor was WordPro, but usually used WordStar 7
>> for DOS. (Still do in DOBox-X.)
>
> In the short time I used it, I thought it had the most outdated 
> interface. However, its dictionary features were superior to Microsoft's 
> and this is very important if you're writing.
>
>>> I swore not to use Firefox but it looks like it's the best browser on
>>> Linux if you don't want your dGPU to be used needlessly, and if you want
>>> gestures to work as they should. Using Firefox, I can flick two fingers
>>> back and forth to go to the previous web page or the next one, but it
>>> doesn't work anywhere else. If I use Brave, it ignores the fact that I
>>> don't want hardware acceleration too whereas Firefox respects my wishes.
>> 
>> My brother is the same way about firefox. I've tried Brave and several
>> others, but I guess I'm a creature of habit. I don't do any of the fancy
>> gestures, however. And uBlock Origin (the full version) works well in
>> Firefox.
>
> And it will continue to work in Firefox because it won't be affected by 
> Google's decisions to stop supporting Manifest v2. People often forget 
> that the base for most browsers out there is developed by Google and 
> that they don't benefit in any way from people using an ad-blocker.
>
>>> You have the same kind of choice in Fedora as it relates to Flatpaks and
>>> the rest. It's actually kind of annoying when you're looking for
>>> applications because you're never sure which version will integrate best
>>> with the rest of your system.
>> 
>> I'm figuring out FlatPaks. Basically all the configuration files are in
>> /.var (in your home directory) and /var in the root directory. I still try
>> to find the application in the repository first.
>
> The repository version is always going to be the fastest, but it is 
> likely to be outdated in some cases. That's part of why people prefer a 
> Flatpak which doesn't depend on the distribution developers to update 
> their package. It also has some additional security though I don't 
> believe that it is really all that effective.

I understand. I use some FlatPaks specifically because they are newer. 
Usually, though, I'll only use a FlatPak when the application is not 
available in the repository.

-- 
“Evil is not able to create anything new, it can only distort and destroy 
what has been invented or made by the forces of good.”  —J.R.R. Tolkien

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#681581

FromAndrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch>
Date2024-12-29 07:27 -0500
Message-ID<PebcP.22185$VnJ1.8513@fx44.iad>
In reply to#681569
On 2024-12-29 02:45, RonB wrote:
> On 2024-12-28, Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> wrote:
>> On 2024-12-28 02:14, RonB wrote:
>>
>>>> That's probably true. I never got too far into using it because the
>>>> "legal" license I bought on eBay turned out not to be legal. One update
>>>> later and poof, no more functionality.
>>>
>>> Sorry to hear that. I, personally, never was a big WordPerfect fan. My
>>> "favorite" Windows word processor was WordPro, but usually used WordStar 7
>>> for DOS. (Still do in DOBox-X.)
>>
>> In the short time I used it, I thought it had the most outdated
>> interface. However, its dictionary features were superior to Microsoft's
>> and this is very important if you're writing.
>>
>>>> I swore not to use Firefox but it looks like it's the best browser on
>>>> Linux if you don't want your dGPU to be used needlessly, and if you want
>>>> gestures to work as they should. Using Firefox, I can flick two fingers
>>>> back and forth to go to the previous web page or the next one, but it
>>>> doesn't work anywhere else. If I use Brave, it ignores the fact that I
>>>> don't want hardware acceleration too whereas Firefox respects my wishes.
>>>
>>> My brother is the same way about firefox. I've tried Brave and several
>>> others, but I guess I'm a creature of habit. I don't do any of the fancy
>>> gestures, however. And uBlock Origin (the full version) works well in
>>> Firefox.
>>
>> And it will continue to work in Firefox because it won't be affected by
>> Google's decisions to stop supporting Manifest v2. People often forget
>> that the base for most browsers out there is developed by Google and
>> that they don't benefit in any way from people using an ad-blocker.
>>
>>>> You have the same kind of choice in Fedora as it relates to Flatpaks and
>>>> the rest. It's actually kind of annoying when you're looking for
>>>> applications because you're never sure which version will integrate best
>>>> with the rest of your system.
>>>
>>> I'm figuring out FlatPaks. Basically all the configuration files are in
>>> /.var (in your home directory) and /var in the root directory. I still try
>>> to find the application in the repository first.
>>
>> The repository version is always going to be the fastest, but it is
>> likely to be outdated in some cases. That's part of why people prefer a
>> Flatpak which doesn't depend on the distribution developers to update
>> their package. It also has some additional security though I don't
>> believe that it is really all that effective.
> 
> I understand. I use some FlatPaks specifically because they are newer.
> Usually, though, I'll only use a FlatPak when the application is not
> available in the repository.

I just did the same thing, to be honest. There's nothing truly wrong 
with Flatpak, but I like the increased performance of the repository 
software so I removed whatever I could and put in the equivalent RPMs. I 
was prompted to do so when I found out that getting Windows games to 
work in Steam on Linux is easier using the native version. Red Dead 
Redemption 2 already runs perfectly so I will have to get around to 
completing it once I get bored of playing NHL 25 on the console.

-- 
Andrzej (Andre) Matuch
Telegram: @AndrzejMatuch

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#681639

Fromrbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Date2024-12-29 21:23 +0000
Message-ID<ltdstsF7nkqU10@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#681569
On Sun, 29 Dec 2024 07:45:53 -0000 (UTC), RonB wrote:

> I understand. I use some FlatPaks specifically because they are newer.
> Usually, though, I'll only use a FlatPak when the application is not
> available in the repository.

All I have for flatpaks are Arduino IDE v2, Brave, Vim and a bunch of 
FreeDesktop stuff that I'm not even sure what it does. I have more apps 
that are snaps, including Brave. Ubuntu seems more snap happy.

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#681034

Fromchrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid>
Date2024-12-21 18:50 -0600
Message-ID<tgoemjl4002q4rdvsdvrpjh5psutng9ost@4ax.com>
In reply to#681007
CrudeSausage wrote:

> (idiocy snipped)

Really?  What does the NYSE run?

-- 
"You call Snit a liar for making a claim nearly identical to your own
claim."  -  DumFSck, lying shamelessly

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#681062

FromCrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge>
Date2024-12-22 07:14 -0500
Message-ID<IoT9P.10051$zX7.7565@fx37.iad>
In reply to#681034
Le 2024-12-21 à 19:50, chrisv a écrit :
> CrudeSausage wrote:
> 
>> (idiocy snipped)
> 
> Really?  What does the NYSE run?

I never looked into it. If it runs Linux, that's great. How that helps 
to improve the user experience is up to you to explain.

-- 
CrudeSausage

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#681080

Fromchrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid>
Date2024-12-22 10:40 -0600
Message-ID<74ggmj5ag2jl142h58602afqku53t0r70l@4ax.com>
In reply to#681062
CrudeSausage wrote:

>Le 2024-12-21 à 19:50, chrisv a écrit :
>> CrudeSausage wrote:
>> 
>>> (idiocy snipped)
>> 
>> Really?  What does the NYSE run?
>
>I never looked into it. If it runs Linux, that's great. How that helps 
>to improve the user experience is up to you to explain.

How a viable option of a robust and well-supported non-commercial OS
doesn't improve the user experience for millions for whom "the big
two" are inadequate is up to you to explain.

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#681081

FromCrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge>
Date2024-12-22 11:54 -0500
Message-ID<avX9P.30948$aTp4.9269@fx09.iad>
In reply to#681080
Le 2024-12-22 à 11:40, chrisv a écrit :
> CrudeSausage wrote:
> 
>> Le 2024-12-21 à 19:50, chrisv a écrit :
>>> CrudeSausage wrote:
>>>
>>>> (idiocy snipped)
>>>
>>> Really?  What does the NYSE run?
>>
>> I never looked into it. If it runs Linux, that's great. How that helps
>> to improve the user experience is up to you to explain.
> 
> How a viable option of a robust and well-supported non-commercial OS
> doesn't improve the user experience for millions for whom "the big
> two" are inadequate is up to you to explain.

In other words, no answer.

-- 
CrudeSausage

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#681109

FromRonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com>
Date2024-12-23 06:12 +0000
Message-ID<vkav05$12pp6$7@dont-email.me>
In reply to#681081
On 2024-12-22, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
> Le 2024-12-22 à 11:40, chrisv a écrit :
>> CrudeSausage wrote:
>> 
>>> Le 2024-12-21 à 19:50, chrisv a écrit :
>>>> CrudeSausage wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> (idiocy snipped)
>>>>
>>>> Really?  What does the NYSE run?
>>>
>>> I never looked into it. If it runs Linux, that's great. How that helps
>>> to improve the user experience is up to you to explain.
>> 
>> How a viable option of a robust and well-supported non-commercial OS
>> doesn't improve the user experience for millions for whom "the big
>> two" are inadequate is up to you to explain.
>
> In other words, no answer.

There is no answer. An "improved user experience" is completely subjective (as 
mentioned in an earlier post).

-- 
“Evil is not able to create anything new, it can only distort and destroy 
what has been invented or made by the forces of good.”  —J.R.R. Tolkien

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#681108

FromRonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com>
Date2024-12-23 06:11 +0000
Message-ID<vkautr$12pp6$6@dont-email.me>
In reply to#681080
On 2024-12-22, chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> CrudeSausage wrote:
>
>>Le 2024-12-21 à 19:50, chrisv a écrit :
>>> CrudeSausage wrote:
>>> 
>>>> (idiocy snipped)
>>> 
>>> Really?  What does the NYSE run?
>>
>>I never looked into it. If it runs Linux, that's great. How that helps 
>>to improve the user experience is up to you to explain.
>
> How a viable option of a robust and well-supported non-commercial OS
> doesn't improve the user experience for millions for whom "the big
> two" are inadequate is up to you to explain.

He thinks Windows is "prettier." I don't.

-- 
“Evil is not able to create anything new, it can only distort and destroy 
what has been invented or made by the forces of good.”  —J.R.R. Tolkien

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#681132

FromCrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge>
Date2024-12-23 11:43 -0500
Message-ID<WqgaP.13739$6yI.11430@fx42.iad>
In reply to#681108
Le 2024-12-23 à 01:11, RonB a écrit :
> On 2024-12-22, chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>> CrudeSausage wrote:
>>
>>> Le 2024-12-21 à 19:50, chrisv a écrit :
>>>> CrudeSausage wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> (idiocy snipped)
>>>>
>>>> Really?  What does the NYSE run?
>>>
>>> I never looked into it. If it runs Linux, that's great. How that helps
>>> to improve the user experience is up to you to explain.
>>
>> How a viable option of a robust and well-supported non-commercial OS
>> doesn't improve the user experience for millions for whom "the big
>> two" are inadequate is up to you to explain.
> 
> He thinks Windows is "prettier." I don't.

It's more consistent, but I think that KDE is prettier. The mere fact 
that KDE allows you to customize the interface however you want 
including with effects makes it superior to Windows. When I inevitably 
decide to torture myself with Linux again, especially if it has a 
solution to fTPM stuttering which is unavailable to Windows without a 
BIOS update, I'll probably install that again.

-- 
CrudeSausage

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#681107

FromRonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com>
Date2024-12-23 06:10 +0000
Message-ID<vkaurn$12pp6$5@dont-email.me>
In reply to#681062
On 2024-12-22, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
> Le 2024-12-21 à 19:50, chrisv a écrit :
>> CrudeSausage wrote:
>> 
>>> (idiocy snipped)
>> 
>> Really?  What does the NYSE run?
>
> I never looked into it. If it runs Linux, that's great. How that helps 
> to improve the user experience is up to you to explain.

"Improved the user experience" is subjective. For me, the best "user 
experience, when writing (for example), is working in non-GUI environment. 
I'm sure that's not the case with most here. I'm guessing the "best" "user 
experience" with the NYSE is whatever platform gets the users the 
information they want in the shortest possible amount of time.

-- 
“Evil is not able to create anything new, it can only distort and destroy 
what has been invented or made by the forces of good.”  —J.R.R. Tolkien

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#681131

FromCrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge>
Date2024-12-23 11:42 -0500
Message-ID<BpgaP.13738$6yI.12749@fx42.iad>
In reply to#681107
Le 2024-12-23 à 01:10, RonB a écrit :
> On 2024-12-22, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
>> Le 2024-12-21 à 19:50, chrisv a écrit :
>>> CrudeSausage wrote:
>>>
>>>> (idiocy snipped)
>>>
>>> Really?  What does the NYSE run?
>>
>> I never looked into it. If it runs Linux, that's great. How that helps
>> to improve the user experience is up to you to explain.
> 
> "Improved the user experience" is subjective. For me, the best "user
> experience, when writing (for example), is working in non-GUI environment.
> I'm sure that's not the case with most here. I'm guessing the "best" "user
> experience" with the NYSE is whatever platform gets the users the
> information they want in the shortest possible amount of time.

I do admit that there are a lot of things I prefer doing in the command 
line like batch converting images to a smaller size or converting Office 
Open XML document to the truly open OpenDocument format. I'll admit that 
Linux gives you a lot more flexibility to do so and that its 
command-line tools are top-notch. Heck, doing any of what I mentioned in 
Windows usually requires you to download some tool which tries to sucker 
you into paying a monthly fee.

-- 
CrudeSausage

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#681120

From-hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com>
Date2024-12-23 06:29 -0500
Message-ID<vkbhjk$qaii$3@dont-email.me>
In reply to#681062
On 12/22/24 7:14 AM, CrudeSausage wrote:
> Le 2024-12-21 à 19:50, chrisv a écrit :
>> CrudeSausage wrote:
>>
>>> (idiocy snipped)
>>
>> Really?  What does the NYSE run?
> 
> I never looked into it. If it runs Linux, that's great. How that helps 
> to improve the user experience is up to you to explain.

Sounds like some lame deflection attempt into what *nix flavor is on the 
  mainframe servers...

But for the traders, the Industry Standard is the Bloomberg Terminal.

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bloomberg_Terminal>


The Bloomberg Terminal runs on Windows OS.


-hh


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#681126

FromChris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us>
Date2024-12-23 07:51 -0500
Message-ID<vkbmcq$16thb$7@dont-email.me>
In reply to#681120
-hh wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

> On 12/22/24 7:14 AM, CrudeSausage wrote:
>> Le 2024-12-21 à 19:50, chrisv a écrit :
>>> CrudeSausage wrote:
>>>
>>>> (idiocy snipped)
>>>
>>> Really?  What does the NYSE run?
>> 
>> I never looked into it. If it runs Linux, that's great. How that helps 
>> to improve the user experience is up to you to explain.
>
> Sounds like some lame deflection attempt into what *nix flavor is on the 
>   mainframe servers...
>
> But for the traders, the Industry Standard is the Bloomberg Terminal.
>
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bloomberg_Terminal>
>
> The Bloomberg Terminal runs on Windows OS.

What about the London Stock Exchange?

-- 
But maybe we don't really need that...
		-- Larry Wall in <199709011851.LAA07101@wall.org>

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#681170

From-hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com>
Date2024-12-23 19:18 -0500
Message-ID<vkcuk9$1bvkd$3@dont-email.me>
In reply to#681126
On 12/23/24 7:51 AM, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
> -hh wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:
> 
>> On 12/22/24 7:14 AM, CrudeSausage wrote:
>>> Le 2024-12-21 à 19:50, chrisv a écrit :
>>>> CrudeSausage wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> (idiocy snipped)
>>>>
>>>> Really?  What does the NYSE run?
>>>
>>> I never looked into it. If it runs Linux, that's great. How that helps
>>> to improve the user experience is up to you to explain.
>>
>> Sounds like some lame deflection attempt into what *nix flavor is on the
>>    mainframe servers...
>>
>> But for the traders, the Industry Standard is the Bloomberg Terminal.
>>
>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bloomberg_Terminal>
>>
>> The Bloomberg Terminal runs on Windows OS.
> 
> What about the London Stock Exchange?
> 

Hadn't really thought about it...


...but Google does provide this:


"London Stock Exchange goes after Bloomberg’s data crown with Microsoft deal

Deal strengthens challenge to Bloomberg’s financial data business, 
analysts say

By Josh Mitchell
Friday 23 December 2022 at 06:56"

<https://www.fnlondon.com/articles/london-stock-exchange-goes-after-bloombergs-data-crown-with-microsoft-deal-20221223>



-hh

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#681019

FromRonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com>
Date2024-12-21 22:31 +0000
Message-ID<vk7fk1$8e67$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#681006
On 2024-12-21, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
> https://www.wired.com/story/2024-was-the-year-the-bottom-fell-out-of-the-
> games-industry/
>
> I'd seen a few articles but never paid much attention. RPI put a lot of 
> effort into their video game degree program and thought the spinoffs might 
> revitalize the upstate NY economy. I wonder if they missed the boat or if 
> the industry will spring back?
>
> Linux: who really cares if games run on Linux? It's a serious OS for 
> serious people. 

I dont care about games, but a lot of people do.

-- 
“Evil is not able to create anything new, it can only distort and destroy 
what has been invented or made by the forces of good.”  —J.R.R. Tolkien

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#681030

Fromvallor <vallor@cultnix.org>
Date2024-12-21 23:35 +0000
Message-ID<lsp1l5Frc8fU3@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#681006
On 21 Dec 2024 19:02:35 GMT, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote in
<lsohmbFpkocU3@mid.individual.net>:

> https://www.wired.com/story/2024-was-the-year-the-bottom-fell-out-of-
the-
> games-industry/
> 
> I'd seen a few articles but never paid much attention. RPI put a lot of
> effort into their video game degree program and thought the spinoffs
> might revitalize the upstate NY economy. I wonder if they missed the
> boat or if the industry will spring back?
> 
> Linux: who really cares if games run on Linux? It's a serious OS for
> serious people.

One of the best ways to really crank on a kernel is to run a game.

And:  All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy.

Some people stare at the boob toob.  Some people game, which uses
the brain cells a bit more.

I play Elite Dangerous on Linux, which has just finished up a
banner year. I know that's the exception rather than the rule,
but a lot of players came back because of the new "Power Play 2.0"
that was added to the game recently. And the final Thargoid
mothership -- which took up station over Earth and was menacing
the Sol system -- is now no more.

Fly dangerous!

-- 
-v System76 Thelio Mega v1.1 x86_64 NVIDIA RTX 3090 Ti
   OS: Linux 6.12.6 Release: Mint 21.3 Mem: 258G
   "If at first you don't succeed, work for Microsoft."

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#681035

Fromchrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid>
Date2024-12-21 18:52 -0600
Message-ID<tjoemj5qscp1gl5pinfqsbug70sf1gc916@4ax.com>
In reply to#681030
vallor wrote:

>Some people stare at the boob toob.  Some people game, which uses
>the brain cells a bit more.

What?  Don't you know that there's a "right way" to live life?  People
don't need freedom and choice!  /s

-- 
"That's what you said:"  -  DumFSck, lying shamelessly, after which he
quoted what I really said.  Nice of him, to document his own *lie*.

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#681056

FromStéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr>
Date2024-12-22 10:09 +0000
Message-ID<6767e55b$0$5204$426a74cc@news.free.fr>
In reply to#681030
Le 21-12-2024, vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> a écrit :
>
> And:  All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy.

Agreed. Now, a computer is not mandatory to play. There are other
possibilities.

-- 
Si vous avez du temps à perdre :
https://scarpet42.gitlab.io

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#681067

FromCrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge>
Date2024-12-22 07:42 -0500
Message-ID<nPT9P.29792$aTp4.7473@fx09.iad>
In reply to#681056
Le 2024-12-22 à 05:09, Stéphane CARPENTIER a écrit :
> Le 21-12-2024, vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> a écrit :
>>
>> And:  All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy.
> 
> Agreed. Now, a computer is not mandatory to play. There are other
> possibilities.

I have to agree here. I just got a new monitor yesterday and both my 
computer and Xbox Series S are plugged into it. I'm sure that the same 
game running from the computer would look better than it does coming 
from the console, but the games still look fantastic and I doubt that 
some additional polygons would multiply the amount of fun one can have. 
Besides, there are console exclusives like NHL that make it preferable.

-- 
CrudeSausage

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