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Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025

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  Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-13 19:35 -0500
    Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-14 00:47 +0000
      Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-13 20:05 -0500
        Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-14 06:06 +0000
          Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-14 01:18 -0500
            Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-14 08:27 -0500
          Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-14 08:23 -0500
            Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-12-15 07:07 -0500
              Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-15 10:23 -0500
        Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-14 07:56 -0500
          Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2024-12-14 15:44 +0000
            Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-14 12:55 -0500
              Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2024-12-15 07:23 +0000
                Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-15 10:12 -0500
                  Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2024-12-16 10:27 +0000
                    Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-16 10:59 -0500
                      Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2024-12-17 08:13 +0000
                        Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-17 08:57 -0500
                          Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2024-12-17 20:30 +0000
                            Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-17 18:01 -0500
                              Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-12-18 06:00 +0000
                                Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-18 08:50 -0500
                                  Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-12-19 02:04 +0000
                                    Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-19 08:45 -0500
                                      Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-12-19 19:53 +0000
                                        Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2024-12-19 14:34 -0600
                                          Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-19 17:15 -0500
                                            Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2024-12-19 18:28 -0600
                                              Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-19 20:08 -0500
                                                Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-12-20 01:16 +0000
                                                  Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-20 08:37 -0500
                                                    Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2024-12-20 18:31 +0000
                                                      Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-20 13:42 -0500
                                                Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2024-12-19 21:03 -0600
                                                Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2024-12-20 05:56 +0000
                                                  Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-20 08:58 -0500
                                                    Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2024-12-20 18:28 +0000
                                                      Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-20 13:39 -0500
                                                        Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2024-12-21 07:39 +0000
                                                      Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-20 13:56 -0500
                                                        Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2024-12-21 07:45 +0000
                                                          Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-12-21 09:45 -0500
                                                  Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2024-12-20 20:37 +0000
                                                    Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-20 16:51 -0500
                                                      Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2024-12-20 21:57 +0000
                                                        Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-20 17:43 -0500
                                                          Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2024-12-21 07:47 +0000
                                                            Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-21 07:25 -0500
                                                              Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2024-12-21 22:42 +0000
                                                                Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-21 18:19 -0500
                                                                  Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> - 2024-12-21 18:26 -0500
                                                                    Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-12-22 00:24 +0000
                                                                    Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-22 07:12 -0500
                                                                      Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2024-12-23 06:31 +0000
                                                                        Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-23 11:56 -0500
                                                                          Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2024-12-24 09:49 +0000
                                                                            Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-24 13:01 -0500
                                                                            Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2024-12-27 17:55 -0500
                                                                  Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2024-12-21 18:46 -0600
                                                                  Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2024-12-22 05:41 +0000
                                                                    Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-22 07:27 -0500
                                                                      Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2024-12-23 06:44 +0000
                                                                        Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-23 11:59 -0500
                                                                    Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-12-22 09:24 -0500
                                                                      Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-22 11:19 -0500
                                                                        Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-12-23 06:18 -0500
                                                                          Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-23 12:03 -0500
                                                                            Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-12-23 19:14 -0500
                                                                              Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2024-12-27 17:16 -0500
                                                                                Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-12-29 11:08 -0500
                                              Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-20 01:19 +0000
                                            Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2024-12-20 05:54 +0000
                                              Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-20 08:55 -0500
                                        Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-19 17:14 -0500
                              Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2024-12-18 11:09 +0000
                                Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-18 09:09 -0500
                                  Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2024-12-19 08:03 +0000
                                    Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-19 09:00 -0500
                                      Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2024-12-20 05:52 +0000
                                        Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-20 08:54 -0500
                                          Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2024-12-20 18:20 +0000
                                Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-18 19:36 +0000
                                  Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2024-12-19 08:05 +0000
                                    Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-19 09:02 -0500
                                    Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-19 19:58 +0000
                        Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-17 20:22 +0000
                          Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2024-12-18 11:05 +0000
                            Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-18 09:06 -0500
                              Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2024-12-19 08:00 +0000
                                Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-19 08:59 -0500
                                  Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2024-12-20 05:51 +0000
                                    Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-20 08:53 -0500
                            Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-18 19:43 +0000
                              Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2024-12-18 20:01 -0600
                              Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2024-12-19 08:02 +0000
                                Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-19 20:00 +0000
          Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-14 20:04 +0000
            Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-15 08:47 -0500
          Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-12-14 22:16 +0000
            Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-15 08:49 -0500
              Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-12-15 22:24 +0000
                Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-15 20:02 -0500
                  Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2024-12-16 10:29 +0000
                    Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-16 11:02 -0500
                      Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2024-12-17 08:19 +0000
                        Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-17 09:01 -0500
                          Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2024-12-17 20:59 +0000
                        Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-17 20:20 +0000
                          Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2024-12-18 11:03 +0000
                            Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-18 20:17 +0000
                              Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-19 05:33 +0000
                                Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2024-12-19 07:57 +0000
                              Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2024-12-19 07:47 +0000
                                Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-19 20:01 +0000
                              Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2024-12-19 01:53 -0600
                                Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> - 2024-12-20 09:29 -0500
              Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2024-12-16 10:28 +0000
                Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-16 11:01 -0500
                  Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2024-12-17 08:15 +0000
                    Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-17 08:59 -0500
                      Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2024-12-17 20:45 +0000
                        Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-17 18:03 -0500
                          Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2024-12-18 11:20 +0000
                            Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-18 09:20 -0500
                              Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-12-18 16:27 -0500
                                Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-18 19:46 -0500
                                Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2024-12-20 01:35 +0000
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#680896

FromRonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com>
Date2024-12-20 18:20 +0000
Message-ID<vk4cgt$3ij9h$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#680874
On 2024-12-20, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
> Le 2024-12-20 à 00:52, RonB a écrit :
>> On 2024-12-19, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
>>> Le 2024-12-19 à 03:03, RonB a écrit :
>>>> On 2024-12-18, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
>>>>> Le 2024-12-18 à 06:09, RonB a écrit :
>>>>>> On 2024-12-17, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
>>>>>>> Le 2024-12-17 à 15:30, RonB a écrit :
>>>>>>>> On 2024-12-17, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Le 2024-12-17 à 03:13, RonB a écrit :
>>>>>>>>>> On 2024-12-16, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Le 2024-12-16 à 05:27, RonB a écrit :
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2024-12-15, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Le 2024-12-15 à 02:23, RonB a écrit :
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2024-12-14, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Le 2024-12-14 à 10:44, RonB a écrit :
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2024-12-14, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Higher performance per watt which leads to lower power use and therefore
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> improved battery life. Whether Intel and AMD want to admit it or not,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> people _do_ want to have a computer which can handle a whole day's work
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on a single charge and which won't increase electrical bills.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> While I agree that most people want longer battery life for their laptops, I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> really don't think the cost of charging a laptop is that big of a concern.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not to a person who lives in an area where electricity is cheap.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> However, it is only going to become more expensive in places like Europe
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> where its production depend on a resource acquired from Russia. The same
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> way they switched to fuel-efficient or electric cars to lower their
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reliance on gasoline, they are probably going to switch to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> energy-efficient machines to reduce their need for electricity altogether.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If things are getting that dire in Europe they're going to have to learn
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to live without computers at all.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> If this were the 80s and Europe were facing these issues, I imagine that
>>>>>>>>>>>>> either Atari or Commodore would have produced a very efficient computer
>>>>>>>>>>>>> which would only need to be charged once daily. Let's not forget how
>>>>>>>>>>>>> popular the ST and the Amiga were over there while they were failing
>>>>>>>>>>>>> miserably in North America. Because both companies are dead, the most
>>>>>>>>>>>>> likely scenario is that they will move to the efficient machines made by
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Apple or equipped with Qualcomm's processors. I do not think that their
>>>>>>>>>>>>> energy crisis is going to get better anytime soon.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm sorry, but I'm skeptical that the electricity needed to charge a laptop
>>>>>>>>>>>> is that big of a concern, even in Europe.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> In that case, you should look at how Germany's economy is tanking,
>>>>>>>>>>> specifically the result of a lack of cheap oil coming in from Russia.
>>>>>>>>>>> You can imagine that the smaller supply of oil will result in electrical
>>>>>>>>>>> production being more expensive and for the power bills to be much
>>>>>>>>>>> higher for the average German. As a result, they are not as likely as
>>>>>>>>>>> they once might have been to buy the powerful PC which requires 800W of
>>>>>>>>>>> power to play a game every hour.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I don't have to "imagine" that the lack of cheap Russian gas is hurting
>>>>>>>>>> Germany's economy (that's plain to see every day in the international news).
>>>>>>>>>> I'm just having trouble imagining that this is resulting in angst about the
>>>>>>>>>> amount of electricity required to charge a laptop.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> If the price you pay for electricity doubles, you are likely to look at
>>>>>>>>> the devices in your house and make changes in the kind of machine you
>>>>>>>>> buy. The promise of charging once a day rather than keeping a machine
>>>>>>>>> plugged is likely to be a benefit to a European. The people of North
>>>>>>>>> America probably won't care as much since power is cheap here.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hypotheticals. I'll remain skeptical that this will be a major issue.
>>>>>>>> (Unless, of course, there is no power at all — which may be a reality in
>>>>>>>> Europe if they keep going down the destructive paths they've chosen. In that
>>>>>>>> case keeping food from spoiling will probably take priority over laptop
>>>>>>>> charging — of any kind).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Only as long as whatever work you do doesn't depend on you having a
>>>>>>> computer.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I purposely use low power laptops and micro desktops because it's all I need
>>>>>>>>>> and I don't like the background sound of fans. These all run Intel CPUs
>>>>>>>>>> (except for the Wyse 5060 thin client desktop — it uses a low power AMD
>>>>>>>>>> CPU).
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> And, as usual, the standard disclaimer, I don't play Windows' video games or
>>>>>>>>>> use high-end (watt gobbling) GPUs. I'm not sure, though, that ARM chips will
>>>>>>>>>> be running these games in the future. (I guess we'll see.)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ARM might, but I don't care to stick around to find out. At best, I
>>>>>>>>> would imagine that ARM will play today's games as well as today's x86-64
>>>>>>>>> PCs around 2027 or so through some compatibility layer. If it happens
>>>>>>>>> sooner, all the better.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'm guessing the power required to run Windows complex video games will not
>>>>>>>> fit in ARM's low-power "wheelhouse." But we'll see. As I've mentioned (many
>>>>>>>> times now) I'm not a game player.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ARM being low-power doesn't mean that it is low-performance. As the
>>>>>>> Apple processors have shown, they're a lot more powerful than x86-64
>>>>>>> processors on single-core applications. They're only worse on multi-core
>>>>>>> and even then, not by much. ARM basically allows people to have
>>>>>>> performance like they currently have but through much less battery power.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'll watch and see what happens. I don't anticipate getting an ARM laptop
>>>>>> (or desktop) in the near future — but then I don't anticipate buying any new
>>>>>> computers at all in the next ten years (or so).
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm trying to hold onto the one I have for as long as possible too, but
>>>>> I know that it's just a matter of time before the keyboard's keys stop
>>>>> working as they should and the parts to fix issue stop being available.
>>>>> When that happens, I'll have no choice but to get another one.
>>>>
>>>> That's another advantage of Dell Latitudes. They made so many of them that
>>>> parts are widely available and cheap.
>>>
>>> True, but those parts will probably only be found in landfills after a
>>> while. The same way that it becomes difficult to find parts for cars
>>> after five years, it becomes hard to find parts for laptops after about
>>> three.
>> 
>> I don't know. I've played with a lot of old Dell Latitudes and I've always
>> managed to find the parts I need.
>
> I guess the Dell Latitude is the Model T of computers.

Popular and plentiful at any rate. I don't know about the newest ones.

-- 
“Evil is not able to create anything new, it can only distort and destroy 
what has been invented or made by the forces of good.”  —J.R.R. Tolkien

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#680726

Fromrbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Date2024-12-18 19:36 +0000
Message-ID<lsgmhoFhpk7U3@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#680686
On Wed, 18 Dec 2024 11:09:06 -0000 (UTC), RonB wrote:

> I'll watch and see what happens. I don't anticipate getting an ARM
> laptop (or desktop) in the near future — but then I don't anticipate
> buying any new computers at all in the next ten years (or so).

Go head and spurge. Get a Raspberry Pi 5 and you too can have a ARM 
desktop. When I cycle through the KVM switch the R Pi looks a lot like the 
Fedora or Ubuntu box without some of the cruft. It has Chromium, Firefox, 
and VS Code like the others, as well as Thonny and Mu. No mahjongg though.

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#680771

FromRonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com>
Date2024-12-19 08:05 +0000
Message-ID<vk0k41$2osc7$7@dont-email.me>
In reply to#680726
On 2024-12-18, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 18 Dec 2024 11:09:06 -0000 (UTC), RonB wrote:
>
>> I'll watch and see what happens. I don't anticipate getting an ARM
>> laptop (or desktop) in the near future — but then I don't anticipate
>> buying any new computers at all in the next ten years (or so).
>
> Go head and spurge. Get a Raspberry Pi 5 and you too can have a ARM 
> desktop. When I cycle through the KVM switch the R Pi looks a lot like the 
> Fedora or Ubuntu box without some of the cruft. It has Chromium, Firefox, 
> and VS Code like the others, as well as Thonny and Mu. No mahjongg though.

I don't know if any of the applications I would want to use run on ARM 
though.

-- 
“Evil is not able to create anything new, it can only distort and destroy 
what has been invented or made by the forces of good.”  —J.R.R. Tolkien

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#680789

FromCrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge>
Date2024-12-19 09:02 -0500
Message-ID<tHV8P.24085$0O61.1260@fx15.iad>
In reply to#680771
Le 2024-12-19 à 03:05, RonB a écrit :
> On 2024-12-18, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
>> On Wed, 18 Dec 2024 11:09:06 -0000 (UTC), RonB wrote:
>>
>>> I'll watch and see what happens. I don't anticipate getting an ARM
>>> laptop (or desktop) in the near future — but then I don't anticipate
>>> buying any new computers at all in the next ten years (or so).
>>
>> Go head and spurge. Get a Raspberry Pi 5 and you too can have a ARM
>> desktop. When I cycle through the KVM switch the R Pi looks a lot like the
>> Fedora or Ubuntu box without some of the cruft. It has Chromium, Firefox,
>> and VS Code like the others, as well as Thonny and Mu. No mahjongg though.
> 
> I don't know if any of the applications I would want to use run on ARM
> though.

I'm fairly sure that the entirety of Linux software is already available 
for ARM unlike Windows software. That is why Linux is far and beyond the 
better option for those Snapdragon-equipped computers currently being sold.

-- 
CrudeSausage

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#680808

Fromrbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Date2024-12-19 19:58 +0000
Message-ID<lsjc7hFu136U8@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#680771
On Thu, 19 Dec 2024 08:05:21 -0000 (UTC), RonB wrote:

> I don't know if any of the applications I would want to use run on ARM
> though.

I haven't researched on how much is available. Raspberry Pi OS is a Debian 
fork although some people have put Ubuntu and other distros on the Pi.

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#680618

Fromrbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Date2024-12-17 20:22 +0000
Message-ID<lse4s8F4u57U5@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#680560
On Tue, 17 Dec 2024 08:13:12 -0000 (UTC), RonB wrote:

> I don't have to "imagine" that the lack of cheap Russian gas is hurting
> Germany's economy (that's plain to see every day in the international
> news).
> I'm just having trouble imagining that this is resulting in angst about
> the amount of electricity required to charge a laptop.

There were other factors like immigration but Scholz's brilliant policies 
got him a vote of no confidence and the government failed. February will 
be interesting.

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#680685

FromRonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com>
Date2024-12-18 11:05 +0000
Message-ID<vjuaa5$28obp$4@dont-email.me>
In reply to#680618
On 2024-12-17, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 17 Dec 2024 08:13:12 -0000 (UTC), RonB wrote:
>
>> I don't have to "imagine" that the lack of cheap Russian gas is hurting
>> Germany's economy (that's plain to see every day in the international
>> news).
>> I'm just having trouble imagining that this is resulting in angst about
>> the amount of electricity required to charge a laptop.
>
> There were other factors like immigration but Scholz's brilliant policies 
> got him a vote of no confidence and the government failed. February will 
> be interesting.

That Scholz always looks like he's confused. I think Trudeau in Canada 
might be in trouble as well (also constantly confused).

-- 
“Evil is not able to create anything new, it can only distort and destroy 
what has been invented or made by the forces of good.”  —J.R.R. Tolkien

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#680701

FromCrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge>
Date2024-12-18 09:06 -0500
Message-ID<OFA8P.2348$YXj.2013@fx34.iad>
In reply to#680685
Le 2024-12-18 à 06:05, RonB a écrit :
> On 2024-12-17, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
>> On Tue, 17 Dec 2024 08:13:12 -0000 (UTC), RonB wrote:
>>
>>> I don't have to "imagine" that the lack of cheap Russian gas is hurting
>>> Germany's economy (that's plain to see every day in the international
>>> news).
>>> I'm just having trouble imagining that this is resulting in angst about
>>> the amount of electricity required to charge a laptop.
>>
>> There were other factors like immigration but Scholz's brilliant policies
>> got him a vote of no confidence and the government failed. February will
>> be interesting.
> 
> That Scholz always looks like he's confused. I think Trudeau in Canada
> might be in trouble as well (also constantly confused).

The media here is strongly suggesting that Trudeau will resign. They are 
saying that there are too many factors around him pushing him in that 
direction and that a January election is very likely. Of course, they 
are underestimating Trudeau's self-awareness and therefore his knowledge 
of how useless he is to the world if he loses the ultimate job. He has 
no knowledge of law, he has shown himself to be incompetent on the 
economic front and there is no greater example of a complete lack of 
leadership. He would also be unwilling to move up the ladder of the 
education system if he wanted to use the one degree he does have since 
he was once heading the country. In other words, if he steps down, he 
loses the Prime Minister's salary as well as the taxpayer-funded piggy 
bank he's been using for personal matters. Plus, how is he supposed to 
live without access to a private jet to see all his friends around the 
world?!

That faggot is going to hold onto power for dear life. He will have to 
be forcibly removed from office when he loses the election he will be 
forced to call at the end of 2025. Even when he loses and the 
Conservatives get a majority, he will try something to keep himself in 
power. He is that much of a tyrant.

-- 
CrudeSausage

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#680768

FromRonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com>
Date2024-12-19 08:00 +0000
Message-ID<vk0jqn$2osc7$4@dont-email.me>
In reply to#680701
On 2024-12-18, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
> Le 2024-12-18 à 06:05, RonB a écrit :
>> On 2024-12-17, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
>>> On Tue, 17 Dec 2024 08:13:12 -0000 (UTC), RonB wrote:
>>>
>>>> I don't have to "imagine" that the lack of cheap Russian gas is hurting
>>>> Germany's economy (that's plain to see every day in the international
>>>> news).
>>>> I'm just having trouble imagining that this is resulting in angst about
>>>> the amount of electricity required to charge a laptop.
>>>
>>> There were other factors like immigration but Scholz's brilliant policies
>>> got him a vote of no confidence and the government failed. February will
>>> be interesting.
>> 
>> That Scholz always looks like he's confused. I think Trudeau in Canada
>> might be in trouble as well (also constantly confused).
>
> The media here is strongly suggesting that Trudeau will resign. They are 
> saying that there are too many factors around him pushing him in that 
> direction and that a January election is very likely. Of course, they 
> are underestimating Trudeau's self-awareness and therefore his knowledge 
> of how useless he is to the world if he loses the ultimate job. He has 
> no knowledge of law, he has shown himself to be incompetent on the 
> economic front and there is no greater example of a complete lack of 
> leadership. He would also be unwilling to move up the ladder of the 
> education system if he wanted to use the one degree he does have since 
> he was once heading the country. In other words, if he steps down, he 
> loses the Prime Minister's salary as well as the taxpayer-funded piggy 
> bank he's been using for personal matters. Plus, how is he supposed to 
> live without access to a private jet to see all his friends around the 
> world?!
>
> That faggot is going to hold onto power for dear life. He will have to 
> be forcibly removed from office when he loses the election he will be 
> forced to call at the end of 2025. Even when he loses and the 
> Conservatives get a majority, he will try something to keep himself in 
> power. He is that much of a tyrant.

I think he and Macron are twin sons of different mothers. Both idiots.

-- 
“Evil is not able to create anything new, it can only distort and destroy 
what has been invented or made by the forces of good.”  —J.R.R. Tolkien

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#680787

FromCrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge>
Date2024-12-19 08:59 -0500
Message-ID<hFV8P.24083$0O61.2123@fx15.iad>
In reply to#680768
Le 2024-12-19 à 03:00, RonB a écrit :
> On 2024-12-18, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
>> Le 2024-12-18 à 06:05, RonB a écrit :
>>> On 2024-12-17, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 17 Dec 2024 08:13:12 -0000 (UTC), RonB wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I don't have to "imagine" that the lack of cheap Russian gas is hurting
>>>>> Germany's economy (that's plain to see every day in the international
>>>>> news).
>>>>> I'm just having trouble imagining that this is resulting in angst about
>>>>> the amount of electricity required to charge a laptop.
>>>>
>>>> There were other factors like immigration but Scholz's brilliant policies
>>>> got him a vote of no confidence and the government failed. February will
>>>> be interesting.
>>>
>>> That Scholz always looks like he's confused. I think Trudeau in Canada
>>> might be in trouble as well (also constantly confused).
>>
>> The media here is strongly suggesting that Trudeau will resign. They are
>> saying that there are too many factors around him pushing him in that
>> direction and that a January election is very likely. Of course, they
>> are underestimating Trudeau's self-awareness and therefore his knowledge
>> of how useless he is to the world if he loses the ultimate job. He has
>> no knowledge of law, he has shown himself to be incompetent on the
>> economic front and there is no greater example of a complete lack of
>> leadership. He would also be unwilling to move up the ladder of the
>> education system if he wanted to use the one degree he does have since
>> he was once heading the country. In other words, if he steps down, he
>> loses the Prime Minister's salary as well as the taxpayer-funded piggy
>> bank he's been using for personal matters. Plus, how is he supposed to
>> live without access to a private jet to see all his friends around the
>> world?!
>>
>> That faggot is going to hold onto power for dear life. He will have to
>> be forcibly removed from office when he loses the election he will be
>> forced to call at the end of 2025. Even when he loses and the
>> Conservatives get a majority, he will try something to keep himself in
>> power. He is that much of a tyrant.
> 
> I think he and Macron are twin sons of different mothers. Both idiots.

I think that they're desperately holding onto power because they have 
been tasked with promoting Schwab's World Economic Forum agenda in their 
respective countries and know that it would be dead in the water if they 
left. Conservative politics are incompatible with the stakeholder 
capitalism (Communism) the World Economic Forum is promoting so once 
they resign, Schwab loses a good part of his power.

-- 
CrudeSausage

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#680853

FromRonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com>
Date2024-12-20 05:51 +0000
Message-ID<vk30kl$3a4kl$3@dont-email.me>
In reply to#680787
On 2024-12-19, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
> Le 2024-12-19 à 03:00, RonB a écrit :
>> On 2024-12-18, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
>>> Le 2024-12-18 à 06:05, RonB a écrit :
>>>> On 2024-12-17, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, 17 Dec 2024 08:13:12 -0000 (UTC), RonB wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't have to "imagine" that the lack of cheap Russian gas is hurting
>>>>>> Germany's economy (that's plain to see every day in the international
>>>>>> news).
>>>>>> I'm just having trouble imagining that this is resulting in angst about
>>>>>> the amount of electricity required to charge a laptop.
>>>>>
>>>>> There were other factors like immigration but Scholz's brilliant policies
>>>>> got him a vote of no confidence and the government failed. February will
>>>>> be interesting.
>>>>
>>>> That Scholz always looks like he's confused. I think Trudeau in Canada
>>>> might be in trouble as well (also constantly confused).
>>>
>>> The media here is strongly suggesting that Trudeau will resign. They are
>>> saying that there are too many factors around him pushing him in that
>>> direction and that a January election is very likely. Of course, they
>>> are underestimating Trudeau's self-awareness and therefore his knowledge
>>> of how useless he is to the world if he loses the ultimate job. He has
>>> no knowledge of law, he has shown himself to be incompetent on the
>>> economic front and there is no greater example of a complete lack of
>>> leadership. He would also be unwilling to move up the ladder of the
>>> education system if he wanted to use the one degree he does have since
>>> he was once heading the country. In other words, if he steps down, he
>>> loses the Prime Minister's salary as well as the taxpayer-funded piggy
>>> bank he's been using for personal matters. Plus, how is he supposed to
>>> live without access to a private jet to see all his friends around the
>>> world?!
>>>
>>> That faggot is going to hold onto power for dear life. He will have to
>>> be forcibly removed from office when he loses the election he will be
>>> forced to call at the end of 2025. Even when he loses and the
>>> Conservatives get a majority, he will try something to keep himself in
>>> power. He is that much of a tyrant.
>> 
>> I think he and Macron are twin sons of different mothers. Both idiots.
>
> I think that they're desperately holding onto power because they have 
> been tasked with promoting Schwab's World Economic Forum agenda in their 
> respective countries and know that it would be dead in the water if they 
> left. Conservative politics are incompatible with the stakeholder 
> capitalism (Communism) the World Economic Forum is promoting so once 
> they resign, Schwab loses a good part of his power.

I think Macron is one of the less intelligent Rothschilds. So he can 
probably stay as long he wants. I guess Treadle is living off his father's 
name. I would like to run down Canada for putting up with him, but we just 
put up with four years of a senile pervert — so I've got no ground to stand 
on.

-- 
“Evil is not able to create anything new, it can only distort and destroy 
what has been invented or made by the forces of good.”  —J.R.R. Tolkien

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#680873

FromCrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge>
Date2024-12-20 08:53 -0500
Message-ID<5Fe9P.31191$0O61.23689@fx15.iad>
In reply to#680853
Le 2024-12-20 à 00:51, RonB a écrit :
> On 2024-12-19, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
>> Le 2024-12-19 à 03:00, RonB a écrit :
>>> On 2024-12-18, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
>>>> Le 2024-12-18 à 06:05, RonB a écrit :
>>>>> On 2024-12-17, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
>>>>>> On Tue, 17 Dec 2024 08:13:12 -0000 (UTC), RonB wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I don't have to "imagine" that the lack of cheap Russian gas is hurting
>>>>>>> Germany's economy (that's plain to see every day in the international
>>>>>>> news).
>>>>>>> I'm just having trouble imagining that this is resulting in angst about
>>>>>>> the amount of electricity required to charge a laptop.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There were other factors like immigration but Scholz's brilliant policies
>>>>>> got him a vote of no confidence and the government failed. February will
>>>>>> be interesting.
>>>>>
>>>>> That Scholz always looks like he's confused. I think Trudeau in Canada
>>>>> might be in trouble as well (also constantly confused).
>>>>
>>>> The media here is strongly suggesting that Trudeau will resign. They are
>>>> saying that there are too many factors around him pushing him in that
>>>> direction and that a January election is very likely. Of course, they
>>>> are underestimating Trudeau's self-awareness and therefore his knowledge
>>>> of how useless he is to the world if he loses the ultimate job. He has
>>>> no knowledge of law, he has shown himself to be incompetent on the
>>>> economic front and there is no greater example of a complete lack of
>>>> leadership. He would also be unwilling to move up the ladder of the
>>>> education system if he wanted to use the one degree he does have since
>>>> he was once heading the country. In other words, if he steps down, he
>>>> loses the Prime Minister's salary as well as the taxpayer-funded piggy
>>>> bank he's been using for personal matters. Plus, how is he supposed to
>>>> live without access to a private jet to see all his friends around the
>>>> world?!
>>>>
>>>> That faggot is going to hold onto power for dear life. He will have to
>>>> be forcibly removed from office when he loses the election he will be
>>>> forced to call at the end of 2025. Even when he loses and the
>>>> Conservatives get a majority, he will try something to keep himself in
>>>> power. He is that much of a tyrant.
>>>
>>> I think he and Macron are twin sons of different mothers. Both idiots.
>>
>> I think that they're desperately holding onto power because they have
>> been tasked with promoting Schwab's World Economic Forum agenda in their
>> respective countries and know that it would be dead in the water if they
>> left. Conservative politics are incompatible with the stakeholder
>> capitalism (Communism) the World Economic Forum is promoting so once
>> they resign, Schwab loses a good part of his power.
> 
> I think Macron is one of the less intelligent Rothschilds. So he can
> probably stay as long he wants. I guess Treadle is living off his father's
> name. I would like to run down Canada for putting up with him, but we just
> put up with four years of a senile pervert — so I've got no ground to stand
> on.

The sad part is that Trudeau is indeed living off his father's name. The 
problem is that the people who loved Pierre Elliot fondly remember 
Trudeaumania in the late 60s and the "hope" that he brought with him. 
They don't remember the result of him being elected: massive debts and 
the devaluing of our dollar. The name Trudeau should be synonymous with 
incompetence, but Canadians have a short memory just like Americans and 
have for long been way too naive in believing the media that promoted 
the interests of the progressives.

-- 
CrudeSausage

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#680727

Fromrbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Date2024-12-18 19:43 +0000
Message-ID<lsgmuvFhpk7U4@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#680685
On Wed, 18 Dec 2024 11:05:41 -0000 (UTC), RonB wrote:

> That Scholz always looks like he's confused. I think Trudeau in Canada
> might be in trouble as well (also constantly confused).

Mutti Merkel left him a bag of shit and he wasn't the right person to 
handle it.  Besides he was the oldest chancellor in 50 years at the ripe 
old age of 63.  (ironic reference to the US preference for geriatric 
cases)

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#680752

FromPhysfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com>
Date2024-12-18 20:01 -0600
Message-ID<vjvupg$123ns$3@solani.org>
In reply to#680727
On 12/18/24 1:43 PM, rbowman wrote:
> On Wed, 18 Dec 2024 11:05:41 -0000 (UTC), RonB wrote:
> 
>> That Scholz always looks like he's confused. I think Trudeau in Canada
>> might be in trouble as well (also constantly confused).
> 
> Mutti Merkel left him a bag of shit and he wasn't the right person to
> handle it.  Besides he was the oldest chancellor in 50 years at the ripe
> old age of 63.  (ironic reference to the US preference for geriatric
> cases)


63? He looks like 83. I guess beer does that to them.

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#680769

FromRonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com>
Date2024-12-19 08:02 +0000
Message-ID<vk0jtq$2osc7$5@dont-email.me>
In reply to#680727
On 2024-12-18, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 18 Dec 2024 11:05:41 -0000 (UTC), RonB wrote:
>
>> That Scholz always looks like he's confused. I think Trudeau in Canada
>> might be in trouble as well (also constantly confused).
>
> Mutti Merkel left him a bag of shit and he wasn't the right person to 
> handle it.  Besides he was the oldest chancellor in 50 years at the ripe 
> old age of 63.  (ironic reference to the US preference for geriatric 
> cases)

He just seems clueless about how dire the situation is in Germany. Are 
politicians REQUIRED to have a sub-standard IQ these days? 

-- 
“Evil is not able to create anything new, it can only distort and destroy 
what has been invented or made by the forces of good.”  —J.R.R. Tolkien

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#680809

Fromrbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Date2024-12-19 20:00 +0000
Message-ID<lsjca6Fu136U9@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#680769
On Thu, 19 Dec 2024 08:02:03 -0000 (UTC), RonB wrote:

> He just seems clueless about how dire the situation is in Germany. Are
> politicians REQUIRED to have a sub-standard IQ these days?

We do seem to be far from Kennedy's best and brightest dream of Camelot.

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#680221

Fromrbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Date2024-12-14 20:04 +0000
Message-ID<ls66mhFprrqU8@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#680148
On Sat, 14 Dec 2024 07:56:30 -0500, CrudeSausage wrote:

> Higher performance per watt which leads to lower power use and therefore
> improved battery life. Whether Intel and AMD want to admit it or not,
> people _do_ want to have a computer which can handle a whole day's work
> on a single charge and which won't increase electrical bills.

My existing laptop is capable of that but I don't watch videos or play 
games in a day's work.

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#680314

FromCrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge>
Date2024-12-15 08:47 -0500
Message-ID<Q5B7P.4492$G93a.1051@fx05.iad>
In reply to#680221
Le 2024-12-14 à 15:04, rbowman a écrit :
> On Sat, 14 Dec 2024 07:56:30 -0500, CrudeSausage wrote:
> 
>> Higher performance per watt which leads to lower power use and therefore
>> improved battery life. Whether Intel and AMD want to admit it or not,
>> people _do_ want to have a computer which can handle a whole day's work
>> on a single charge and which won't increase electrical bills.
> 
> My existing laptop is capable of that but I don't watch videos or play
> games in a day's work.

Mine can manage half of a work day too if I don't share my screen with 
the classroom's projector and don't watch videos. I say this because 
sharing automatically enables the GPU which multiplies the battery 
discharge. If I just kept it on my desk to send e-mails, browse the web 
and submit an assessment of a student, I might be able to get a day's 
worth of work from a single charge. The MacBook Air I had would have 
done it without a doubt though.

That's part of why I am saying that going forward, especially if 
Microsoft moves fully to ARM, I'll only be using a Mac. I truly don't 
believe the corporation to be capable of doing anything but completely 
fucking up a transition to a new architecture.

-- 
CrudeSausage

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#680240

FromLawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid>
Date2024-12-14 22:16 +0000
Message-ID<vjl032$68i1$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#680148
On Sat, 14 Dec 2024 07:56:30 -0500, CrudeSausage wrote:

> Higher performance per watt which leads to lower power use and therefore
> improved battery life. Whether Intel and AMD want to admit it or not,
> people _do_ want to have a computer which can handle a whole day's work
> on a single charge and which won't increase electrical bills.

Sure. But Windows can never give it to them.

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#680316

FromCrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge>
Date2024-12-15 08:49 -0500
Message-ID<D7B7P.4494$G93a.1375@fx05.iad>
In reply to#680240
Le 2024-12-14 à 17:16, Lawrence D'Oliveiro a écrit :
> On Sat, 14 Dec 2024 07:56:30 -0500, CrudeSausage wrote:
> 
>> Higher performance per watt which leads to lower power use and therefore
>> improved battery life. Whether Intel and AMD want to admit it or not,
>> people _do_ want to have a computer which can handle a whole day's work
>> on a single charge and which won't increase electrical bills.
> 
> Sure. But Windows can never give it to them.

It can and it already does on Snapdragon offerings.

-- 
CrudeSausage

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