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Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025

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  Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-13 19:35 -0500
    Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-14 00:47 +0000
      Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-13 20:05 -0500
        Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-14 06:06 +0000
          Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-14 01:18 -0500
            Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-14 08:27 -0500
          Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-14 08:23 -0500
            Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-12-15 07:07 -0500
              Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-15 10:23 -0500
        Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-14 07:56 -0500
          Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2024-12-14 15:44 +0000
            Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-14 12:55 -0500
              Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2024-12-15 07:23 +0000
                Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-15 10:12 -0500
                  Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2024-12-16 10:27 +0000
                    Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-16 10:59 -0500
                      Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2024-12-17 08:13 +0000
                        Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-17 08:57 -0500
                          Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2024-12-17 20:30 +0000
                            Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-17 18:01 -0500
                              Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-12-18 06:00 +0000
                                Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-18 08:50 -0500
                                  Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-12-19 02:04 +0000
                                    Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-19 08:45 -0500
                                      Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-12-19 19:53 +0000
                                        Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2024-12-19 14:34 -0600
                                          Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-19 17:15 -0500
                                            Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2024-12-19 18:28 -0600
                                              Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-19 20:08 -0500
                                                Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-12-20 01:16 +0000
                                                  Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-20 08:37 -0500
                                                    Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2024-12-20 18:31 +0000
                                                      Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-20 13:42 -0500
                                                Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2024-12-19 21:03 -0600
                                                Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2024-12-20 05:56 +0000
                                                  Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-20 08:58 -0500
                                                    Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2024-12-20 18:28 +0000
                                                      Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-20 13:39 -0500
                                                        Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2024-12-21 07:39 +0000
                                                      Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-20 13:56 -0500
                                                        Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2024-12-21 07:45 +0000
                                                          Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-12-21 09:45 -0500
                                                  Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2024-12-20 20:37 +0000
                                                    Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-20 16:51 -0500
                                                      Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2024-12-20 21:57 +0000
                                                        Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-20 17:43 -0500
                                                          Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2024-12-21 07:47 +0000
                                                            Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-21 07:25 -0500
                                                              Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2024-12-21 22:42 +0000
                                                                Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-21 18:19 -0500
                                                                  Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> - 2024-12-21 18:26 -0500
                                                                    Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-12-22 00:24 +0000
                                                                    Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-22 07:12 -0500
                                                                      Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2024-12-23 06:31 +0000
                                                                        Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-23 11:56 -0500
                                                                          Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2024-12-24 09:49 +0000
                                                                            Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-24 13:01 -0500
                                                                            Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2024-12-27 17:55 -0500
                                                                  Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2024-12-21 18:46 -0600
                                                                  Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2024-12-22 05:41 +0000
                                                                    Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-22 07:27 -0500
                                                                      Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2024-12-23 06:44 +0000
                                                                        Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-23 11:59 -0500
                                                                    Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-12-22 09:24 -0500
                                                                      Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-22 11:19 -0500
                                                                        Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-12-23 06:18 -0500
                                                                          Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-23 12:03 -0500
                                                                            Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-12-23 19:14 -0500
                                                                              Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2024-12-27 17:16 -0500
                                                                                Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-12-29 11:08 -0500
                                              Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-20 01:19 +0000
                                            Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2024-12-20 05:54 +0000
                                              Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-20 08:55 -0500
                                        Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-19 17:14 -0500
                              Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2024-12-18 11:09 +0000
                                Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-18 09:09 -0500
                                  Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2024-12-19 08:03 +0000
                                    Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-19 09:00 -0500
                                      Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2024-12-20 05:52 +0000
                                        Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-20 08:54 -0500
                                          Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2024-12-20 18:20 +0000
                                Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-18 19:36 +0000
                                  Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2024-12-19 08:05 +0000
                                    Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-19 09:02 -0500
                                    Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-19 19:58 +0000
                        Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-17 20:22 +0000
                          Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2024-12-18 11:05 +0000
                            Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-18 09:06 -0500
                              Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2024-12-19 08:00 +0000
                                Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-19 08:59 -0500
                                  Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2024-12-20 05:51 +0000
                                    Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-20 08:53 -0500
                            Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-18 19:43 +0000
                              Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2024-12-18 20:01 -0600
                              Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2024-12-19 08:02 +0000
                                Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-19 20:00 +0000
          Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-14 20:04 +0000
            Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-15 08:47 -0500
          Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-12-14 22:16 +0000
            Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-15 08:49 -0500
              Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-12-15 22:24 +0000
                Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-15 20:02 -0500
                  Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2024-12-16 10:29 +0000
                    Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-16 11:02 -0500
                      Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2024-12-17 08:19 +0000
                        Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-17 09:01 -0500
                          Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2024-12-17 20:59 +0000
                        Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-17 20:20 +0000
                          Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2024-12-18 11:03 +0000
                            Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-18 20:17 +0000
                              Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-19 05:33 +0000
                                Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2024-12-19 07:57 +0000
                              Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2024-12-19 07:47 +0000
                                Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-19 20:01 +0000
                              Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2024-12-19 01:53 -0600
                                Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> - 2024-12-20 09:29 -0500
              Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2024-12-16 10:28 +0000
                Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-16 11:01 -0500
                  Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2024-12-17 08:15 +0000
                    Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-17 08:59 -0500
                      Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2024-12-17 20:45 +0000
                        Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-17 18:03 -0500
                          Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2024-12-18 11:20 +0000
                            Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-18 09:20 -0500
                              Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-12-18 16:27 -0500
                                Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-18 19:46 -0500
                                Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2024-12-20 01:35 +0000
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    Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-14 07:51 -0500
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#680681

FromLawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid>
Date2024-12-18 06:00 +0000
Message-ID<vjtodv$262og$4@dont-email.me>
In reply to#680650
On Tue, 17 Dec 2024 18:01:02 -0500, CrudeSausage wrote:

> ARM being low-power doesn't mean that it is low-performance.

Fujitsu’s chips are proof of that
<https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/cpus/fujitsu-flaunts-144-core-monaka-cpu-2nm-and-5nm-chiplets-soic-and-cowos-packaging>.
And without the upgradeability limitations of Apple, too.

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#680698

FromCrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge>
Date2024-12-18 08:50 -0500
Message-ID<sqA8P.78622$oR74.44741@fx16.iad>
In reply to#680681
Le 2024-12-18 à 01:00, Lawrence D'Oliveiro a écrit :
> On Tue, 17 Dec 2024 18:01:02 -0500, CrudeSausage wrote:
> 
>> ARM being low-power doesn't mean that it is low-performance.
> 
> Fujitsu’s chips are proof of that
> <https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/cpus/fujitsu-flaunts-144-core-monaka-cpu-2nm-and-5nm-chiplets-soic-and-cowos-packaging>.
> And without the upgradeability limitations of Apple, too.

Except that Apple already has a ton of the software running natively on 
ARM and whichever hasn't been converted runs almost as well as the 
native stuff. The PC side has a ton of promises that it will deliver 
something better in the future than what Apple sells _today_. Those 
promises don't produce the hope in me that they did twenty years ago 
because I've been disappointed a number of times.

-- 
CrudeSausage

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#680753

FromLawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid>
Date2024-12-19 02:04 +0000
Message-ID<vjvv02$2i8ut$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#680698
On Wed, 18 Dec 2024 08:50:15 -0500, CrudeSausage wrote:

> Le 2024-12-18 à 01:00, Lawrence D'Oliveiro a écrit :
>
>> On Tue, 17 Dec 2024 18:01:02 -0500, CrudeSausage wrote:
>> 
>>> ARM being low-power doesn't mean that it is low-performance.
>> 
>> Fujitsu’s chips are proof of that
>> <https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/cpus/fujitsu-flaunts-144-core-monaka-cpu-2nm-and-5nm-chiplets-soic-and-cowos-packaging>.
>> And without the upgradeability limitations of Apple, too.
> 
> Except that Apple already has a ton of the software running natively on
> ARM ...

Sure, if Apple stuff is sufficient for you. Linux stuff runs natively
on ARM and a bunch of other architectures, as well.

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#680780

FromCrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge>
Date2024-12-19 08:45 -0500
Message-ID<csV8P.8806$62H.425@fx36.iad>
In reply to#680753
Le 2024-12-18 à 21:04, Lawrence D'Oliveiro a écrit :
> On Wed, 18 Dec 2024 08:50:15 -0500, CrudeSausage wrote:
> 
>> Le 2024-12-18 à 01:00, Lawrence D'Oliveiro a écrit :
>>
>>> On Tue, 17 Dec 2024 18:01:02 -0500, CrudeSausage wrote:
>>>
>>>> ARM being low-power doesn't mean that it is low-performance.
>>>
>>> Fujitsu’s chips are proof of that
>>> <https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/cpus/fujitsu-flaunts-144-core-monaka-cpu-2nm-and-5nm-chiplets-soic-and-cowos-packaging>.
>>> And without the upgradeability limitations of Apple, too.
>>
>> Except that Apple already has a ton of the software running natively on
>> ARM ...
> 
> Sure, if Apple stuff is sufficient for you. Linux stuff runs natively
> on ARM and a bunch of other architectures, as well.

It does, but Linux's stuff is already hard to sell on x86-64 so you can 
imagine how alluring it is on ARM. Nevertheless, if I were using an 
ARM-based PC at the moment, I would be using Linux on it and watching to 
see if Microsoft _eventually_ gets its act together. I doubt that it 
ever will which is why I'm pushing people to consider Apple if ARM is 
what they're looking for.

-- 
CrudeSausage

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#680807

FromLawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid>
Date2024-12-19 19:53 +0000
Message-ID<vk1tk8$30e9m$3@dont-email.me>
In reply to#680780
On Thu, 19 Dec 2024 08:45:43 -0500, CrudeSausage wrote:

> Le 2024-12-18 à 21:04, Lawrence D'Oliveiro a écrit :
>
>> On Wed, 18 Dec 2024 08:50:15 -0500, CrudeSausage wrote:
>> 
>>> Except that Apple already has a ton of the software running natively
>>> on ARM ...
>> 
>> Sure, if Apple stuff is sufficient for you. Linux stuff runs natively
>> on ARM and a bunch of other architectures, as well.
> 
> It does, but Linux's stuff is already hard to sell on x86-64 so you can
> imagine how alluring it is on ARM.

Linux is the only platform that offers a full suite of software native for 
both ARM and x86 (both 32- and 64-bit). Nobody else does.

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#680811

Fromchrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid>
Date2024-12-19 14:34 -0600
Message-ID<cm09mjd03uh4022c3brti79savd0higr5a@4ax.com>
In reply to#680807
Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:

>Linux is the only platform that offers a full suite of software native for 
>both ARM and x86 (both 32- and 64-bit). Nobody else does.

Payware vendors can't compete with the efficiency of FOSS.

-- 
'You (the lame Linux "community") have always decided on one "best
distro".'  -  DumFSck, lying shamelessly

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#680822

FromCrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge>
Date2024-12-19 17:15 -0500
Message-ID<sW09P.18859$DPl.18645@fx13.iad>
In reply to#680811
Le 2024-12-19 à 15:34, chrisv a écrit :
> Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
> 
>> Linux is the only platform that offers a full suite of software native for
>> both ARM and x86 (both 32- and 64-bit). Nobody else does.
> 
> Payware vendors can't compete with the efficiency of FOSS.

They can: they eventually implement features that the open-source world 
will copy and implement later in a more rudimentary form.

-- 
CrudeSausage

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#680830

Fromchrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid>
Date2024-12-19 18:28 -0600
Message-ID<gde9mjtr9m6apqfm14dg9ck2jgmjgu2qtv@4ax.com>
In reply to#680822
CrudeSausage wrote:

>Le 2024-12-19 à 15:34, chrisv a écrit :
>> Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>> 
>>> Linux is the only platform that offers a full suite of software native for
>>> both ARM and x86 (both 32- and 64-bit). Nobody else does.
>> 
>> Payware vendors can't compete with the efficiency of FOSS.
>
>They can: they eventually implement features that the open-source world 
>will copy and implement later in a more rudimentary form.

So where's the payware OS and software for, say, Raspbarry Pi?

-- 
"two shakes of Liarmutt's pee-pee."  -  "Hadron"

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#680834

FromCrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge>
Date2024-12-19 20:08 -0500
Message-ID<Ur39P.31043$DYF8.12842@fx14.iad>
In reply to#680830
Le 2024-12-19 à 19:28, chrisv a écrit :
> CrudeSausage wrote:
> 
>> Le 2024-12-19 à 15:34, chrisv a écrit :
>>> Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>>>
>>>> Linux is the only platform that offers a full suite of software native for
>>>> both ARM and x86 (both 32- and 64-bit). Nobody else does.
>>>
>>> Payware vendors can't compete with the efficiency of FOSS.
>>
>> They can: they eventually implement features that the open-source world
>> will copy and implement later in a more rudimentary form.
> 
> So where's the payware OS and software for, say, Raspbarry Pi?

Where are the profits in producing an operating system and software for 
such hardware?

-- 
CrudeSausage

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#680837

FromLawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid>
Date2024-12-20 01:16 +0000
Message-ID<vk2ghm$33uu1$3@dont-email.me>
In reply to#680834
On Thu, 19 Dec 2024 20:08:03 -0500, CrudeSausage wrote:

> Where are the profits in producing an operating system and software for
> such hardware?

There are no profits to be made in operating systems any more, for any 
hardware. You see this in the deteriorating quality of Microsoft Windows.

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#680869

FromCrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge>
Date2024-12-20 08:37 -0500
Message-ID<Lqe9P.50586$bYV2.46235@fx17.iad>
In reply to#680837
Le 2024-12-19 à 20:16, Lawrence D'Oliveiro a écrit :
> On Thu, 19 Dec 2024 20:08:03 -0500, CrudeSausage wrote:
> 
>> Where are the profits in producing an operating system and software for
>> such hardware?
> 
> There are no profits to be made in operating systems any more, for any
> hardware. You see this in the deteriorating quality of Microsoft Windows.

Except that 11 is better than 10 and 10, depending on who you ask, is 
better than 8.1. No one will say that they preferred 8.1 over 7 but it 
was an improvement for anyone who had a touchscreen. Similarly, 7 was 
more stable than Vista. The only Windows versions that are definitely 
worse than their predecessors are Millennium Edition and Vista, but 
Vista was actually superior to XP in a number of ways that were ignored 
by people unsatisfied by its poor performance on modest hardware.

-- 
CrudeSausage

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#680898

FromRonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com>
Date2024-12-20 18:31 +0000
Message-ID<vk4d6i$3ij9h$4@dont-email.me>
In reply to#680869
On 2024-12-20, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
> Le 2024-12-19 à 20:16, Lawrence D'Oliveiro a écrit :
>> On Thu, 19 Dec 2024 20:08:03 -0500, CrudeSausage wrote:
>> 
>>> Where are the profits in producing an operating system and software for
>>> such hardware?
>> 
>> There are no profits to be made in operating systems any more, for any
>> hardware. You see this in the deteriorating quality of Microsoft Windows.
>
> Except that 11 is better than 10 and 10, depending on who you ask, is 
> better than 8.1. No one will say that they preferred 8.1 over 7 but it 
> was an improvement for anyone who had a touchscreen. Similarly, 7 was 
> more stable than Vista. The only Windows versions that are definitely 
> worse than their predecessors are Millennium Edition and Vista, but 
> Vista was actually superior to XP in a number of ways that were ignored 
> by people unsatisfied by its poor performance on modest hardware.

Sure 11 is "better," if you like even more advertising in your OS and AI 
horse crap. (But I admit it does updates slightly better... only a couple 
hours instead of four or five.)

And you're forgetting Windows 8, which was definitely worse than 7 (and 
almost completely ignored by Windows users). Windows 8.1 was basically 
Windows 10.

-- 
“Evil is not able to create anything new, it can only distort and destroy 
what has been invented or made by the forces of good.”  —J.R.R. Tolkien

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#680900

FromCrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge>
Date2024-12-20 13:42 -0500
Message-ID<nUi9P.59286$%aWb.22337@fx18.iad>
In reply to#680898
Le 2024-12-20 à 13:31, RonB a écrit :
> On 2024-12-20, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
>> Le 2024-12-19 à 20:16, Lawrence D'Oliveiro a écrit :
>>> On Thu, 19 Dec 2024 20:08:03 -0500, CrudeSausage wrote:
>>>
>>>> Where are the profits in producing an operating system and software for
>>>> such hardware?
>>>
>>> There are no profits to be made in operating systems any more, for any
>>> hardware. You see this in the deteriorating quality of Microsoft Windows.
>>
>> Except that 11 is better than 10 and 10, depending on who you ask, is
>> better than 8.1. No one will say that they preferred 8.1 over 7 but it
>> was an improvement for anyone who had a touchscreen. Similarly, 7 was
>> more stable than Vista. The only Windows versions that are definitely
>> worse than their predecessors are Millennium Edition and Vista, but
>> Vista was actually superior to XP in a number of ways that were ignored
>> by people unsatisfied by its poor performance on modest hardware.
> 
> Sure 11 is "better," if you like even more advertising in your OS and AI
> horse crap. (But I admit it does updates slightly better... only a couple
> hours instead of four or five.)

Perhaps there is lots of advertising in Windows 11 if you are in the 
United States, but I don't see anything but the weather and news items 
here.

> And you're forgetting Windows 8, which was definitely worse than 7 (and
> almost completely ignored by Windows users). Windows 8.1 was basically
> Windows 10. 

Windows 8.1 was much snappier than 10 in everyday use but just as bad 
with updates. 8 only sucked at first if you had no idea where the Start 
button went and that it was replaced by simply navigating to the 
bottom-left corner. Once you got that out of the way, it was fine. 
However, it gave too much importance to the modern apps.

-- 
CrudeSausage

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#680847

Fromchrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid>
Date2024-12-19 21:03 -0600
Message-ID<min9mjtq8ommoq5h1pjca0ibip3le65drd@4ax.com>
In reply to#680834
CrudeSausage wrote:

>>>> Payware vendors can't compete with the efficiency of FOSS.
>>>
>>> They can: they eventually implement features that the open-source world
>>> will copy and implement later in a more rudimentary form.
>> 
>> So where's the payware OS and software for, say, Raspbarry Pi?
>
>Where are the profits in producing an operating system and software for 
>such hardware?

Err... It's due to the efficiency of FOSS, that there isn't any.

Sheesh.

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#680856

FromRonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com>
Date2024-12-20 05:56 +0000
Message-ID<vk30up$3a4kl$6@dont-email.me>
In reply to#680834
On 2024-12-20, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
> Le 2024-12-19 à 19:28, chrisv a écrit :
>> CrudeSausage wrote:
>> 
>>> Le 2024-12-19 à 15:34, chrisv a écrit :
>>>> Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Linux is the only platform that offers a full suite of software native for
>>>>> both ARM and x86 (both 32- and 64-bit). Nobody else does.
>>>>
>>>> Payware vendors can't compete with the efficiency of FOSS.
>>>
>>> They can: they eventually implement features that the open-source world
>>> will copy and implement later in a more rudimentary form.
>> 
>> So where's the payware OS and software for, say, Raspbarry Pi?
>
> Where are the profits in producing an operating system and software for 
> such hardware?

Open source is not profit driven. The Raspberry Pi computers make a lot of 
money for small start-up companies. But they're making hardware, not 
software.

-- 
“Evil is not able to create anything new, it can only distort and destroy 
what has been invented or made by the forces of good.”  —J.R.R. Tolkien

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#680876

FromCrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge>
Date2024-12-20 08:58 -0500
Message-ID<VJe9P.31194$0O61.8363@fx15.iad>
In reply to#680856
Le 2024-12-20 à 00:56, RonB a écrit :
> On 2024-12-20, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
>> Le 2024-12-19 à 19:28, chrisv a écrit :
>>> CrudeSausage wrote:
>>>
>>>> Le 2024-12-19 à 15:34, chrisv a écrit :
>>>>> Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Linux is the only platform that offers a full suite of software native for
>>>>>> both ARM and x86 (both 32- and 64-bit). Nobody else does.
>>>>>
>>>>> Payware vendors can't compete with the efficiency of FOSS.
>>>>
>>>> They can: they eventually implement features that the open-source world
>>>> will copy and implement later in a more rudimentary form.
>>>
>>> So where's the payware OS and software for, say, Raspbarry Pi?
>>
>> Where are the profits in producing an operating system and software for
>> such hardware?
> 
> Open source is not profit driven. The Raspberry Pi computers make a lot of
> money for small start-up companies. But they're making hardware, not
> software.

And this is why GNOME is a few months away from going bankrupt as is 
Mozilla after Google's legal loss. This is also why KDE nags you for 
donations when you first use the desktop environment. Say what you will 
about open-source users, but they're pretty bad at giving money to the 
organizations that produce the software they use. This is also why the 
most talented programmers working on open-source eventually give up and 
produce software that they can sell.

-- 
CrudeSausage

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#680897

FromRonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com>
Date2024-12-20 18:28 +0000
Message-ID<vk4d0b$3ij9h$3@dont-email.me>
In reply to#680876
On 2024-12-20, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
> Le 2024-12-20 à 00:56, RonB a écrit :
>> On 2024-12-20, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
>>> Le 2024-12-19 à 19:28, chrisv a écrit :
>>>> CrudeSausage wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Le 2024-12-19 à 15:34, chrisv a écrit :
>>>>>> Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Linux is the only platform that offers a full suite of software native for
>>>>>>> both ARM and x86 (both 32- and 64-bit). Nobody else does.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Payware vendors can't compete with the efficiency of FOSS.
>>>>>
>>>>> They can: they eventually implement features that the open-source world
>>>>> will copy and implement later in a more rudimentary form.
>>>>
>>>> So where's the payware OS and software for, say, Raspbarry Pi?
>>>
>>> Where are the profits in producing an operating system and software for
>>> such hardware?
>> 
>> Open source is not profit driven. The Raspberry Pi computers make a lot of
>> money for small start-up companies. But they're making hardware, not
>> software.
>
> And this is why GNOME is a few months away from going bankrupt as is 
> Mozilla after Google's legal loss. This is also why KDE nags you for 
> donations when you first use the desktop environment. Say what you will 
> about open-source users, but they're pretty bad at giving money to the 
> organizations that produce the software they use. This is also why the 
> most talented programmers working on open-source eventually give up and 
> produce software that they can sell.

A quick lookup on the GNOME Foundation (not GNOME's) supposed upcoming 
bankruptcy. And exchange from two posters on Reddit...

   Who started this fake news saying that GNOME would "go bankrupt"? I'm 
   really curious. We're talking about a non-profit organization.

     Lunduke. It's always f-ing Lunduke.

     Hope someone sues his ass one day for this type of shit.

I'm guessing that the Lunduke moron was your "source" (so to speak).

-- 
“Evil is not able to create anything new, it can only distort and destroy 
what has been invented or made by the forces of good.”  —J.R.R. Tolkien

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#680899

FromCrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge>
Date2024-12-20 13:39 -0500
Message-ID<iRi9P.34274$Uup4.13841@fx10.iad>
In reply to#680897
Le 2024-12-20 à 13:28, RonB a écrit :
> On 2024-12-20, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
>> Le 2024-12-20 à 00:56, RonB a écrit :
>>> On 2024-12-20, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
>>>> Le 2024-12-19 à 19:28, chrisv a écrit :
>>>>> CrudeSausage wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Le 2024-12-19 à 15:34, chrisv a écrit :
>>>>>>> Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Linux is the only platform that offers a full suite of software native for
>>>>>>>> both ARM and x86 (both 32- and 64-bit). Nobody else does.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Payware vendors can't compete with the efficiency of FOSS.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> They can: they eventually implement features that the open-source world
>>>>>> will copy and implement later in a more rudimentary form.
>>>>>
>>>>> So where's the payware OS and software for, say, Raspbarry Pi?
>>>>
>>>> Where are the profits in producing an operating system and software for
>>>> such hardware?
>>>
>>> Open source is not profit driven. The Raspberry Pi computers make a lot of
>>> money for small start-up companies. But they're making hardware, not
>>> software.
>>
>> And this is why GNOME is a few months away from going bankrupt as is
>> Mozilla after Google's legal loss. This is also why KDE nags you for
>> donations when you first use the desktop environment. Say what you will
>> about open-source users, but they're pretty bad at giving money to the
>> organizations that produce the software they use. This is also why the
>> most talented programmers working on open-source eventually give up and
>> produce software that they can sell.
> 
> A quick lookup on the GNOME Foundation (not GNOME's) supposed upcoming
> bankruptcy. And exchange from two posters on Reddit...
> 
>     Who started this fake news saying that GNOME would "go bankrupt"? I'm
>     really curious. We're talking about a non-profit organization.
> 
>       Lunduke. It's always f-ing Lunduke.
> 
>       Hope someone sues his ass one day for this type of shit.
> 
> I'm guessing that the Lunduke moron was your "source" (so to speak).

It was indeed Lunduke, but he's basing his report on GNOME's own 
numbers. I hope that you'll apologize when it indeed goes bankrupt not 
too long from now.

-- 
CrudeSausage

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#680970

FromRonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com>
Date2024-12-21 07:39 +0000
Message-ID<vk5rbh$3ucu6$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#680899
On 2024-12-20, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
> Le 2024-12-20 à 13:28, RonB a écrit :
>> On 2024-12-20, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
>>> Le 2024-12-20 à 00:56, RonB a écrit :
>>>> On 2024-12-20, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
>>>>> Le 2024-12-19 à 19:28, chrisv a écrit :
>>>>>> CrudeSausage wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Le 2024-12-19 à 15:34, chrisv a écrit :
>>>>>>>> Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Linux is the only platform that offers a full suite of software native for
>>>>>>>>> both ARM and x86 (both 32- and 64-bit). Nobody else does.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Payware vendors can't compete with the efficiency of FOSS.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> They can: they eventually implement features that the open-source world
>>>>>>> will copy and implement later in a more rudimentary form.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So where's the payware OS and software for, say, Raspbarry Pi?
>>>>>
>>>>> Where are the profits in producing an operating system and software for
>>>>> such hardware?
>>>>
>>>> Open source is not profit driven. The Raspberry Pi computers make a lot of
>>>> money for small start-up companies. But they're making hardware, not
>>>> software.
>>>
>>> And this is why GNOME is a few months away from going bankrupt as is
>>> Mozilla after Google's legal loss. This is also why KDE nags you for
>>> donations when you first use the desktop environment. Say what you will
>>> about open-source users, but they're pretty bad at giving money to the
>>> organizations that produce the software they use. This is also why the
>>> most talented programmers working on open-source eventually give up and
>>> produce software that they can sell.
>> 
>> A quick lookup on the GNOME Foundation (not GNOME's) supposed upcoming
>> bankruptcy. And exchange from two posters on Reddit...
>> 
>>     Who started this fake news saying that GNOME would "go bankrupt"? I'm
>>     really curious. We're talking about a non-profit organization.
>> 
>>       Lunduke. It's always f-ing Lunduke.
>> 
>>       Hope someone sues his ass one day for this type of shit.
>> 
>> I'm guessing that the Lunduke moron was your "source" (so to speak).
>
> It was indeed Lunduke, but he's basing his report on GNOME's own 
> numbers. I hope that you'll apologize when it indeed goes bankrupt not 
> too long from now.

I won't be holding my breath.

-- 
“Evil is not able to create anything new, it can only distort and destroy 
what has been invented or made by the forces of good.”  —J.R.R. Tolkien

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FromCrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge>
Date2024-12-20 13:56 -0500
Message-ID<s5j9P.23495$DPl.13075@fx13.iad>
In reply to#680897
Le 2024-12-20 à 13:28, RonB a écrit :
> On 2024-12-20, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
>> Le 2024-12-20 à 00:56, RonB a écrit :
>>> On 2024-12-20, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
>>>> Le 2024-12-19 à 19:28, chrisv a écrit :
>>>>> CrudeSausage wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Le 2024-12-19 à 15:34, chrisv a écrit :
>>>>>>> Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Linux is the only platform that offers a full suite of software native for
>>>>>>>> both ARM and x86 (both 32- and 64-bit). Nobody else does.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Payware vendors can't compete with the efficiency of FOSS.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> They can: they eventually implement features that the open-source world
>>>>>> will copy and implement later in a more rudimentary form.
>>>>>
>>>>> So where's the payware OS and software for, say, Raspbarry Pi?
>>>>
>>>> Where are the profits in producing an operating system and software for
>>>> such hardware?
>>>
>>> Open source is not profit driven. The Raspberry Pi computers make a lot of
>>> money for small start-up companies. But they're making hardware, not
>>> software.
>>
>> And this is why GNOME is a few months away from going bankrupt as is
>> Mozilla after Google's legal loss. This is also why KDE nags you for
>> donations when you first use the desktop environment. Say what you will
>> about open-source users, but they're pretty bad at giving money to the
>> organizations that produce the software they use. This is also why the
>> most talented programmers working on open-source eventually give up and
>> produce software that they can sell.
> 
> A quick lookup on the GNOME Foundation (not GNOME's) supposed upcoming
> bankruptcy. And exchange from two posters on Reddit...
> 
>     Who started this fake news saying that GNOME would "go bankrupt"? I'm
>     really curious. We're talking about a non-profit organization.
> 
>       Lunduke. It's always f-ing Lunduke.
> 
>       Hope someone sues his ass one day for this type of shit.
> 
> I'm guessing that the Lunduke moron was your "source" (so to speak).

I just want to add that Lunduke is currently hated by the woke idiots 
running Linux because he tells the truth. He's the one who revealed Red 
Hat and IBM's discriminatoty practises, he's also the one who revealed 
how Mozilla is turning into its own woke organization. Everyone is 
refusing to speak about the elephant in the room but he's pointing it 
out. Feel free to read his entire article with the numbers GNOME itself 
has provided and show where he is wrong, especially now that GNOME laid 
off 33% of its staff.

Face it: you're being played by the same bearded men who are telling you 
they're women.

-- 
CrudeSausage

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