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  For the Record: Ncurses is a Graphics Library II Fabian Russell <fb@zen.info> - 2016-05-27 10:58 +0000
    Re: For the Record: Ncurses is a Graphics Library II Incubus <incubus9536612@gmail.com> - 2016-05-27 04:24 -0700
      Re: For the Record: Ncurses is a Graphics Library II Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2016-05-27 12:40 +0100
        Re: For the Record: Ncurses is a Graphics Library II Incubus <incubus9536612@gmail.com> - 2016-05-27 05:10 -0700
          Re: For the Record: Ncurses is a Graphics Library II Fabian Russell <fb@zen.info> - 2016-05-27 22:08 +0000
            Re: For the Record: Ncurses is a Graphics Library II GreyCloud <Cumulus@mist.com> - 2016-05-27 17:15 -0600
            Linux fonts vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2016-05-28 13:02 +0000
              Re: What do you know about DejaVu Sans Mono ? vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2016-05-28 16:25 +0000
                Re: What do you know about DejaVu Sans Mono ? DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-05-28 12:49 -0400
                Re: What do you know about DejaVu Sans Mono ? Tattoo Vampire <sitting@this.computer> - 2016-05-28 13:22 -0400
                  Re: What do you know about DejaVu Sans Mono ? chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-05-31 07:13 -0500
              Re: What do you know about DejaVu Sans Mono ? "Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> - 2016-05-29 05:11 +0000
                Scott Doty's facade/lies have been exposed. Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2016-05-29 01:03 -0700
                  Re: Scott Doty's facade/lies have been exposed. "Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> - 2016-05-29 10:19 +0000
                    I've been talking about "Mixing and Matching fonts". Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2016-05-29 05:53 -0700
                      Re: I've been talking about "Mixing and Matching fonts". "Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> - 2016-05-29 21:34 +0000
                        Re: Mr. O.W.L's terminal can mix and match random FontGlyphs. "Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> - 2016-05-29 22:43 +0000
                          Re: Linux PC Distros don't have anything that Windows 10 lacks. "Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> - 2016-05-30 00:37 +0000
                            Re: Linux PC Distros don't have anything that Windows 10 lacks. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-05-29 18:27 -0700
                              Re: Linux PC Distros don't have anything that Windows 10 lacks. "Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> - 2016-05-30 02:13 +0000
                                Re: Linux PC Distros don't have anything that Windows 10 lacks. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-05-29 21:23 -0700
                                Re: Linux PC Distros don't have anything that Windows 10 lacks. Tattoo Vampire <sitting@this.computer> - 2016-05-30 08:28 -0400
                                  Re: Linux PC Distros don't have anything that Windows 10 lacks. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-05-30 09:19 -0700
                                  Re: Linux PC Distros don't have anything that Windows 10 lacks. "Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> - 2016-05-30 16:26 +0000
                                    Re: Linux PC Distros don't have anything that Windows 10 lacks. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-05-30 11:00 -0700
                                      Re: Linux PC Distros don't have anything that Windows 10 lacks. "Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> - 2016-05-30 19:04 +0000
                                        Re: Linux PC Distros don't have anything that Windows 10 lacks. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-05-30 12:29 -0700
                            Re: Linux PC Distros don't have anything that Windows 10 lacks. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-05-30 15:06 +0000
                            Re: Linux PC Distros don't have anything that Windows 10 lacks. "Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> - 2016-05-30 16:10 +0000
                        Re: I've been talking about "Mixing and Matching fonts". chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-05-31 07:02 -0500
                  Re: Scott Doty's facade/lies have been exposed. "Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> - 2016-05-29 11:09 +0000
                    Octavian can't show a screenshot, I can: Jeff-Relf.Me/X.PNG Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2016-05-29 05:44 -0700
                      Re: Octavian can't show a screenshot, I can: Jeff-Relf.Me/X.PNG "Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> - 2016-05-29 21:40 +0000
                    Re: Jeff Ralf's facade/lies have been exposed. vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2016-05-29 16:20 +0000
                      Scott Doty can't show a screenshot, I can: Jeff-Relf.Me/X.PNG Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2016-05-29 10:27 -0700
                      Re: Jeff Ralf's facade/lies have been exposed. "Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> - 2016-05-29 22:29 +0000
                        Re: "Jeff-Relf.Me/X.ZIP" is a Visual C++ console, really. "Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> - 2016-05-30 01:03 +0000
                  Re: Scott Doty's facade/lies have been exposed. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-05-30 14:56 +0000
                    Re: Scott Doty's facade/lies have been exposed. Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2016-05-30 16:38 -0400
                Re: What do you know about DejaVu Sans Mono ? DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-05-30 17:42 -0400
                  Re: What do you know about DejaVu Sans Mono ? "Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> - 2016-05-30 21:52 +0000
                    Re: What do you know about DejaVu Sans Mono ? DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-05-30 17:56 -0400
                      Re: What do you know about DejaVu Sans Mono ? "Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> - 2016-05-30 22:06 +0000
                        Re: What do you know about DejaVu Sans Mono ? DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-05-30 18:28 -0400
                          Re: What do you know about DejaVu Sans Mono ? "Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> - 2016-05-30 22:33 +0000
                            Re: What do you know about DejaVu Sans Mono ? DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-05-30 18:56 -0400
                              Re: What do you know about DejaVu Sans Mono ? "Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> - 2016-05-30 23:26 +0000
                                Re: What do you know about DejaVu Sans Mono ? DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-06-01 10:08 -0400
                              Re: What do you know about DejaVu Sans Mono ? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-05-30 16:55 -0700
                    Re: What do you know about DejaVu Sans Mono ? Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2016-05-31 05:28 -0400
                      Re: What do you know about DejaVu Sans Mono ? William Poaster <wp@dev.null> - 2016-05-31 10:53 +0100
                        Re: What do you know about DejaVu Sans Mono ? DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-06-01 10:08 -0400
                          Re: What do you know about DejaVu Sans Mono ? Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-06-01 07:59 -0700
                            Re: What do you know about DejaVu Sans Mono ? DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-06-01 11:15 -0400
                            Re: What do you know about DejaVu Sans Mono ? Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2016-06-01 12:40 -0400
                              Re: What do you know about DejaVu Sans Mono ? Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-06-01 10:31 -0700
                                Re: What do you know about DejaVu Sans Mono ? Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2016-06-01 20:56 -0400
                                  Re: What do you know about DejaVu Sans Mono ? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-06-01 18:12 -0700
                                  Re: What do you know about DejaVu Sans Mono ? Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-06-01 18:23 -0700
                                    Re: What do you know about DejaVu Sans Mono ? Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2016-06-02 05:49 -0400
                                  Re: What do you know about DejaVu Sans Mono ? chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-06-02 09:05 -0500
                                    Re: What do you know about DejaVu Sans Mono ? chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-06-02 11:22 -0500
                                      Re: What do you know about DejaVu Sans Mono ? JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2016-06-07 16:39 -0500
                              Re: What do you know about DejaVu Sans Mono ? JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2016-06-07 16:37 -0500
                                Re: What do you know about DejaVu Sans Mono ? Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-06-08 00:51 +0200
                                  Re: What do you know about DejaVu Sans Mono ? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-06-07 16:07 -0700
                                  Re: What do you know about DejaVu Sans Mono ? JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2016-06-07 19:39 -0500
                                    Re: What do you know about DejaVu Sans Mono ? Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-06-08 10:47 +0200
            Re: For the Record: Ncurses is a Graphics Library II DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-05-30 17:41 -0400
    Re: For the Record: Ncurses is a Graphics Library II Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-05-27 14:16 +0200
    Re: For the Record: Ncurses is a Graphics Library II DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-05-27 11:18 -0400
      Re: For the Record: Ncurses is a Graphics Library II Fabian Russell <fb@zen.info> - 2016-05-27 22:11 +0000
        Re: For the Record: Ncurses is a Graphics Library II GreyCloud <Cumulus@mist.com> - 2016-05-27 17:16 -0600
        Re: For the Record: Ncurses is a Graphics Library II DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-05-27 19:24 -0400
    Re: For the Record: Ncurses is a Graphics Library II 7 <7@enemygadgets.com> - 2016-05-28 14:24 +0000
      Re: For the Record: Ncurses is a Graphics Library II Fabian Russell <fb@zen.info> - 2016-05-28 14:57 +0000
    Re: For the Record: Ncurses is a Graphics Library II Ron House <rhouse@smartchat.net.au> - 2016-05-30 12:02 +1000
      Re: For the Record: Ncurses is a Graphics Library II Fabian Russell <fb@zen.info> - 2016-05-30 04:45 +0000
        Re: For the Record: Ncurses is a Graphics Library II Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-05-30 10:30 +0200
      Re: For the Record: Ncurses is a Graphics Library II Fabian Russell <fb@zen.info> - 2016-05-30 05:01 +0000
        Re: For the Record: Ncurses is a Graphics Library II DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-05-30 12:47 -0400
        Re: For the Record: Ncurses is a Graphics Library II Ron House <rhouse@smartchat.net.au> - 2016-05-31 16:53 +1000
      Re: For the Record: Ncurses is a Graphics Library II Tattoo Vampire <sitting@this.computer> - 2016-05-30 08:27 -0400
        Re: For the Record: Ncurses is a Graphics Library II Fabian Russell <fb@zen.info> - 2016-05-30 13:38 +0000
        Re: For the Record: Ncurses is a Graphics Library II Ron House <rhouse@smartchat.net.au> - 2016-05-31 16:55 +1000

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#357455 — For the Record: Ncurses is a Graphics Library II

Here is an example of the use of Ncurses to produce
useful and efficient terminal graphics.  Why invoke
the bloat of a bit-mapped toolkit when ncurses will
do the same job:

http://s33.postimg.org/fswosne9r/alsamixer.png

The folks at Alsa know how to do it, but this may as
well be part of the control panel for a nuclear
power plant.

Ncurses is a highly underrated graphical tool.  Consider
using it for your next project.

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#357456

On Friday, May 27, 2016 at 10:57:01 AM UTC, Fabian Russell wrote:
> Here is an example of the use of Ncurses to produce
> useful and efficient terminal graphics.  Why invoke
> the bloat of a bit-mapped toolkit when ncurses will
> do the same job:
> 
> http://s33.postimg.org/fswosne9r/alsamixer.png
> 
> The folks at Alsa know how to do it, but this may as
> well be part of the control panel for a nuclear
> power plant.
> 
> Ncurses is a highly underrated graphical tool.  Consider
> using it for your next project.

It looks like a character-based toolkit to me.

Then again, I've actually used it in development.

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#357457

On 27/05/2016 12:24, Incubus wrote:
> On Friday, May 27, 2016 at 10:57:01 AM UTC, Fabian Russell wrote:
>> Here is an example of the use of Ncurses to produce
>> useful and efficient terminal graphics.  Why invoke
>> the bloat of a bit-mapped toolkit when ncurses will
>> do the same job:
>>
>> http://s33.postimg.org/fswosne9r/alsamixer.png
>>
>> The folks at Alsa know how to do it, but this may as
>> well be part of the control panel for a nuclear
>> power plant.
>>
>> Ncurses is a highly underrated graphical tool.  Consider
>> using it for your next project.
>
> It looks like a character-based toolkit to me.

It is, it's for people who like to live in the 80's

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#357469

On Friday, May 27, 2016 at 11:40:41 AM UTC, Desk Rabbit wrote:
> On 27/05/2016 12:24, Incubus wrote:
> > On Friday, May 27, 2016 at 10:57:01 AM UTC, Fabian Russell wrote:
> >> Here is an example of the use of Ncurses to produce
> >> useful and efficient terminal graphics.  Why invoke
> >> the bloat of a bit-mapped toolkit when ncurses will
> >> do the same job:
> >>
> >> http://s33.postimg.org/fswosne9r/alsamixer.png
> >>
> >> The folks at Alsa know how to do it, but this may as
> >> well be part of the control panel for a nuclear
> >> power plant.
> >>
> >> Ncurses is a highly underrated graphical tool.  Consider
> >> using it for your next project.
> >
> > It looks like a character-based toolkit to me.
> 
> It is, it's for people who like to live in the 80's

I'm quite happy in the '80s and '90s but I also find it can be great for developing a quick interface/text representation of something in development where writing a UI would be too much overhead and is better left until there is a working back-end.

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#357508

On Fri, 27 May 2016 05:10:12 -0700, Incubus wrote:

> 
> I'm quite happy in the '80s and '90s 
>

Those are totally artificial categories created by imbecilic journalists
and other "marketdroid" type idiots that have absolutely no validity
or meaning.

Of course, with GNU/Linux, it is perfectly possible to shut down
the X Window system and work entirely in a command shell.  One can
literally switch between X and CLI at will anytime.

(Try that with Microshit Windows -- ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!)

It is very nice to have an ncurses GUI when tinkering around the
command shell as an organized interface can be much more informative
that a raw data dump.  I often enter the CLI for new kernel installs
and when implementing boot script changes, but there are myriad other
reasons for desiring a command shell interface. 

The ncurses GUI can be elegant and aesthetic as well.  It brings the
user a little closer to the "bare metal" of the machine and that is
always a good feeling.

Those who would disagree are those unfortunate and pathetic idiots that
have been exposed only to Microshit Windows for their entire lives.
They are so conditioned to the Microshit GUI that, like the stupid
Pavlov's dog, their feeble minds could never envision or appreciate
anything different.  What bereft losers!

Ncurses is just another of many GNU/Linux treasures that can bring much joy
to the truly competent and adept computer user.

Hail Linux!

Hail Stallman!

Hail GNU!

And FUCK all the goddamned Microshit/Apple zombie imbeciles!

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#357522

Fabian Russell wrote:

> On Fri, 27 May 2016 05:10:12 -0700, Incubus wrote:
> 
>> 
>> I'm quite happy in the '80s and '90s
>>
> 
> Those are totally artificial categories created by imbecilic journalists
> and other "marketdroid" type idiots that have absolutely no validity
> or meaning.
> 
> Of course, with GNU/Linux, it is perfectly possible to shut down
> the X Window system and work entirely in a command shell.  One can
> literally switch between X and CLI at will anytime.
> 
> (Try that with Microshit Windows -- ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!)
> 
> It is very nice to have an ncurses GUI when tinkering around the
> command shell as an organized interface can be much more informative
> that a raw data dump.  I often enter the CLI for new kernel installs
> and when implementing boot script changes, but there are myriad other
> reasons for desiring a command shell interface.
> 
> The ncurses GUI can be elegant and aesthetic as well.  It brings the
> user a little closer to the "bare metal" of the machine and that is
> always a good feeling.
> 
> Those who would disagree are those unfortunate and pathetic idiots that
> have been exposed only to Microshit Windows for their entire lives.
> They are so conditioned to the Microshit GUI that, like the stupid
> Pavlov's dog, their feeble minds could never envision or appreciate
> anything different.  What bereft losers!
> 
> Ncurses is just another of many GNU/Linux treasures that can bring much
> joy to the truly competent and adept computer user.
> 
> Hail Linux!
> 
> Hail Stallman!
> 
> Hail GNU!
> 
> And FUCK all the goddamned Microshit/Apple zombie imbeciles!

Put the glue down, Fabtard.

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#357578 — Linux fonts

On Fri, 27 May 2016 19:24:28 -0700, Jeff-Relf.Me wrote:
> The world needs many FixedWidth fonts, not just one. Some glyphs are
> SingleWide, others are DoubleWide.
> No Linux terminal/console can mix and match fonts.

Wrong -- rxvt-unicode can.

Also, Linux has Deja Vu Sans Mono, not sure why you would say it doesn't.

-- 
 -v
"Desktops, workstations and servers are and Microsoft
is doing very well. AS well as Linux." -"Slimer"
"I do not see desktop Linux as a failure." -"Snit"

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#357596 — Re: What do you know about DejaVu Sans Mono ?

On Sat, 28 May 2016 07:15:58 -0700, Jeff-Relf.Me wrote:

> <PRE Style='Font-Family: OCR A, monospace !important;'>
> You ( ScottDoty ) replied ( to me ):
>> > The world needs many FixedWidth fonts, not just one.
>> > Some glyphs are SingleWide, others are DoubleWide. No Linux
>> > terminal/console can mix and match fonts.
>> 
>> Linux has DejaVu Sans Mono, not sure why you would say it doesn't.
> 
> What do you know about

*PLONK*

About time I did that.

-- 
 -v
"Desktops, workstations and servers are and Microsoft
is doing very well. AS well as Linux." -"Slimer"
"I do not see desktop Linux as a failure." -"Snit"

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#357600 — Re: What do you know about DejaVu Sans Mono ?

On 5/28/2016 12:25 PM, vallor wrote:
> On Sat, 28 May 2016 07:15:58 -0700, Jeff-Relf.Me wrote:
>
>> <PRE Style='Font-Family: OCR A, monospace !important;'>
>> You ( ScottDoty ) replied ( to me ):
>>>> The world needs many FixedWidth fonts, not just one.
>>>> Some glyphs are SingleWide, others are DoubleWide. No Linux
>>>> terminal/console can mix and match fonts.
>>>
>>> Linux has DejaVu Sans Mono, not sure why you would say it doesn't.
>>
>> What do you know about
>
> *PLONK*
>
> About time I did that.


How come you never plonked a donut?

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#357604 — Re: What do you know about DejaVu Sans Mono ?

vallor wrote:

> *PLONK*
> 
> About time I did that.

You're about 10 years behind everyone else in plonking Relf. :-D

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#357853 — Re: What do you know about DejaVu Sans Mono ?

Tattoo Vampire wrote:

> vallor wrote:
>>
>> *PLONK*
>> 
>> About time I did that.
>
>You're about 10 years behind everyone else in plonking Relf. :-D

Hehehe.  Yeah, I plonk people just for quoting Relf's garbage, unless
I know them...

-- 
"What's wrong with it?"  -  DumFSck, regarding the use of a #pragma to
disable 17 different types of compiler warnings

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#357701 — Re: What do you know about DejaVu Sans Mono ?

In comp.os.linux.advocacy Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> wrote:
> 
> What do you know about DejaVu Sans Mono ? Nothing.
> What do you know about rxvt-unicode ? Nothing.
>
What do you know about Linux?  Nothing.
https://vid.me/cPXP

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#357703 — Scott Doty's facade/lies have been exposed.

You ( Mr. Octavian ) asked me:
> What do you know about Linux ?

Much more than you and Scotty Doty, apparently.
Scott Doty's façade/lies have been exposed.

"DejaVu Sans Mono" has no Asian glyphs, ¯\_(ツ)_/¯.
[ 'ツ' is katakana, so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ is a kaomoji ]

It has no doubleWide glyphs;
instead, it has a narrow set of crude, HalfHeight glyphs.
Too crude, "MS Mincho" is _much_ better.

"OCR A" ( Optical Character Recognition ) is best for coding;
because 1 doesn't look like l, O doesn't look like 0, etc.
"Segoe UI Symbol" has Emojies.  And so on.

"rxvt-unicode" doesn't mix and match fonts;
so you can't specify which glyphs, from which fonts, should be used.

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#357705 — Re: Scott Doty's facade/lies have been exposed.

In comp.os.linux.advocacy Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> wrote:
> You ( Mr. Octavian ) asked me:
>> What do you know about Linux ?
> 
> Much more than you and Scotty Doty, apparently.
> Scott Doty's façade/lies have been exposed.
> 
> "DejaVu Sans Mono" has no Asian glyphs, ¯\_(ツ)_/¯.
> [ 'ツ' is katakana, so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ is a kaomoji ]
> 

I'm using Dejavu Sans Mono Book in a mate-terminal.  I have no trouble
whatsoever displaying or inserting Asian glyphs into any file in vim.
I can either echo the character in or copy/paste it.


> It has no doubleWide glyphs;
> instead, it has a narrow set of crude, HalfHeight glyphs.
> Too crude, "MS Mincho" is _much_ better.
> 
> "OCR A" ( Optical Character Recognition ) is best for coding;
> because 1 doesn't look like l, O doesn't look like 0, etc.
> "Segoe UI Symbol" has Emojies.  And so on.
> 

In Dejavu Sans Mono Book, 1 doesn't look like l, O doesnt' look
like 0, etc.  Show me any emoji or heiroglyphic or cuneiform
or asian character that you think I am not able to display
on my terminal or use in a file.  Every single one I've tested
from unicode.org has worked. 


> "rxvt-unicode" doesn't mix and match fonts;
> so you can't specify which glyphs, from which fonts, should be used.


You've never used it.  How would you know what it can do?  The swastika
is not part of Dejavu sans mono either, but I can sure set it as my
terminal prompt. 

anon@lowtide:~$ cp .bashrc .bashrc.bak
anon@lowtide:~$ cp .bashrc.swastika .bashrc
anon@lowtide:~$ bash
anon@lowtide:~卐 exit
exit
anon@lowtide:~$ cp .bashrc.bak .bashrc
anon@lowtide:~$ 

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#357711 — I've been talking about "Mixing and Matching fonts".

You ( Mr. Octavian ) showed:
> anon@lowtide:~$ cp .bashrc.swastika .bashrc
> anon@lowtide:~$ bash
> anon@lowtide:~卐 exit

I've been talking about "Mixing and Matching fonts",
not replacing _one_ font with another.

You can't show screenshots, I can: 

  http://Jeff-Relf.Me/X.PNG
  http://Jeff-Relf.Me/Diff.PNG
  http://Jeff-Relf.Me/SleepPat.PNG

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#357721 — Re: I've been talking about "Mixing and Matching fonts".

In comp.os.linux.advocacy Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> wrote:
> You ( Mr. Octavian ) showed:
>> anon@lowtide:~$ cp .bashrc.swastika .bashrc
>> anon@lowtide:~$ bash
>> anon@lowtide:~卐 exit
> 
> I've been talking about "Mixing and Matching fonts",
> not replacing _one_ font with another.
> 

It would be nice if you knew what the hell you were talking
about.

anon@lowtide:~$ grep PS1 .bashrc.swastika
#    PS1='${debian_chroot:+($debian_chroot)}\[\033[01;32m\]\u@\h\[\033[00m\]:\[\033[01;34m\]\w\[\033[00m\]\$ '
    PS1='${debian_chroot:+($debian_chroot)}\[\033[01;32m\]\u@\h\[\033[00m\]:\[\033[01;34m\]\w\[\033[00m\]'$'\u5350 '
#    PS1='${debian_chroot:+($debian_chroot)}\u@\h:\w\$ '
    PS1='${debian_chroot:+($debian_chroot)}\u@\h:\w'$'\u5350 '
    PS1="\[\e]0;${debian_chroot:+($debian_chroot)}\u@\h: \w\a\]$PS1"
anon@lowtide:~$ 


> You can't show screenshots, I can: 
> 
>   http://Jeff-Relf.Me/X.PNG
>   http://Jeff-Relf.Me/Diff.PNG
>   http://Jeff-Relf.Me/SleepPat.PNG

https://vid.me/IaM3
http://i.imgur.com/1Z1n0SH.png

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#357726 — Re: Mr. O.W.L's terminal can mix and match random FontGlyphs.

In comp.os.linux.advocacy Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> wrote:
> You ( Mr. O.W.L ) showed:
> > http://i.imgur.com/1Z1n0SH.png
> 
> I've been talking about this for a _long_ time;
> all the others, all this time, couldn't demonstrate it;
> you were the first.
> 
> Your terminal _can_ mix and match random FontGlyphs.
> 
> How is it that you know this, and the others don't ?
> 

Others are well aware of it.  They've been trying to tell you, but you
wouldn't listen.  Linux is fantastic.  You should try it.

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#357730 — Re: Linux PC Distros don't have anything that Windows 10 lacks.

In comp.os.linux.advocacy Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> wrote:
> You ( Mr. O.W.L ) replied ( to me ):
> > > > http://i.imgur.com/1Z1n0SH.png
> > > Your terminal _can_ mix and match random FontGlyphs.
> > > How is it that you know this, and the others don't ?
> > 
> > Others are well aware of it.
> > They've been trying to tell you, but you wouldn't listen.
> 
> No, I don't think the others knew;
> certainly, they didn't demonstrate it.
> 
> I read all direct replies to my posts,
> no matter who from... I listen.
> 
> > Linux is fantastic.  You should try it.
> 
> Linux PC Distros don't have anything that Windows 10 lacks.
> 

Linux distros have *tons* of things that Windows 10 lacks,
not the least of which is a powerful command shell.  Sure,
you can jump through hoops and install some of that stuff
on Windows, but why put yourself through that hassle?


> I rely on the Lua Script I wrote for my Logitech g600 mouse,
> for example; Linux has no such thing.  Details:
> 
>   http://Jeff-Relf.Me/g600.PNG
>   http://Jeff-Relf.Me/g600.TXT
> 

A little googling shows that people have successfully programmed
all the buttons on that mouse under Linux.

lua is available for linux, but you won't need it to program the
mouse.  There already exist utilities for binding xevents.  

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#357733 — Re: Linux PC Distros don't have anything that Windows 10 lacks.

On 5/29/16, 5:37 PM, in article ghjdi0ta.jig@perch.invalid, "Octavian W.
Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> wrote:

> In comp.os.linux.advocacy Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> wrote:
>> You ( Mr. O.W.L ) replied ( to me ):
>>>>> http://i.imgur.com/1Z1n0SH.png
>>>> Your terminal _can_ mix and match random FontGlyphs.
>>>> How is it that you know this, and the others don't ?
>>> 
>>> Others are well aware of it.
>>> They've been trying to tell you, but you wouldn't listen.
>> 
>> No, I don't think the others knew;
>> certainly, they didn't demonstrate it.
>> 
>> I read all direct replies to my posts,
>> no matter who from... I listen.
>> 
>>> Linux is fantastic.  You should try it.
>> 
>> Linux PC Distros don't have anything that Windows 10 lacks.
>> 
> 
> Linux distros have *tons* of things that Windows 10 lacks,
> not the least of which is a powerful command shell.  Sure,
> you can jump through hoops and install some of that stuff
> on Windows, but why put yourself through that hassle?

You say the shell is not the least of such things.

Can you show some of the other things? Would love to see how desktop Linux
serves you better than the competition!

>> I rely on the Lua Script I wrote for my Logitech g600 mouse,
>> for example; Linux has no such thing.  Details:
>> 
>>   http://Jeff-Relf.Me/g600.PNG
>>   http://Jeff-Relf.Me/g600.TXT
> 
> A little googling shows that people have successfully programmed
> all the buttons on that mouse under Linux.

Would love to see it. Here is how I configure mine on a competing system:

<https://youtu.be/sdSiYE7lbQI>

Works great for me. I have asked others if you can do this on Linux and they
seem to have no answer... just say programming mice is "idiotic" and leads
to forcing people to single-task in some way they cannot describe. Weird.

For me it allows me to use MORE programs the way I want... choice is good.

  Peter Köhlmann, <http://goo.gl/aBJMis>:
    -----
    | My question is if it is programmable by application: in other
    | words, can you have the next / prev buttons work to do tabs in
    | FireFox and messages in an email program and in the file
    | browser, etc.?
    That is the most idotic way to program a mouse. But I guess the
    typical single-taskers (windows and OSX users) who run only one
    program can get away with such idiotic ideas. Linux users who tend
    to have several applications on the desktop would not appreciate
    if the programming of the different buttons constantly changes
    ----    

> lua is available for linux, but you won't need it to program the
> mouse.  There already exist utilities for binding xevents.
> 



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* Mint KDE working with folders:    <http://youtu.be/7C9nvniOoE0>
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#357738 — Re: Linux PC Distros don't have anything that Windows 10 lacks.

In comp.os.linux.advocacy Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
> On 5/29/16, 5:37 PM, in article ghjdi0ta.jig@perch.invalid, "Octavian W.
> Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> wrote:
> 
>> In comp.os.linux.advocacy Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> wrote:
>>> You ( Mr. O.W.L ) replied ( to me ):
>>>>>> http://i.imgur.com/1Z1n0SH.png
>>>>> Your terminal _can_ mix and match random FontGlyphs.
>>>>> How is it that you know this, and the others don't ?
>>>> 
>>>> Others are well aware of it.
>>>> They've been trying to tell you, but you wouldn't listen.
>>> 
>>> No, I don't think the others knew;
>>> certainly, they didn't demonstrate it.
>>> 
>>> I read all direct replies to my posts,
>>> no matter who from... I listen.
>>> 
>>>> Linux is fantastic.  You should try it.
>>> 
>>> Linux PC Distros don't have anything that Windows 10 lacks.
>>> 
>> 
>> Linux distros have *tons* of things that Windows 10 lacks,
>> not the least of which is a powerful command shell.  Sure,
>> you can jump through hoops and install some of that stuff
>> on Windows, but why put yourself through that hassle?
> 
> You say the shell is not the least of such things.
> 
> Can you show some of the other things? Would love to see how desktop Linux
> serves you better than the competition!
> 

The shell is the shell, and it is extremely powerful in its own right,
aside from all the powerful utilities that run in the shell.  And this
of course doesn't even touch the magnificence that is X11, as you well
know.


>>> I rely on the Lua Script I wrote for my Logitech g600 mouse,
>>> for example; Linux has no such thing.  Details:
>>> 
>>>   http://Jeff-Relf.Me/g600.PNG
>>>   http://Jeff-Relf.Me/g600.TXT
>> 
>> A little googling shows that people have successfully programmed
>> all the buttons on that mouse under Linux.
> 
> Would love to see it.


http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=linux+program+logitech+g600


> Here is how I configure mine on a competing system:
> 
> <https://youtu.be/sdSiYE7lbQI>
> 

That's not a logitech g600.  And you're using the vendor's software.

> Works great for me. I have asked others if you can do this on Linux and they
> seem to have no answer... just say programming mice is "idiotic" and leads
> to forcing people to single-task in some way they cannot describe. Weird.
> 

My gripe is that some of these mice have so many buttons that they
may as well have a QWERTY layout.

xposts trimmed.

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