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  GNU/Linux Greatware "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> - 2018-10-23 20:01 +0000
    Re: GNU/Linux Greatware Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-23 13:33 -0700
      Re: GNU/Linux Greatware Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-23 18:30 -0700
        Re: GNU/Linux Greatware Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-23 22:58 -0700
    Re: GNU/Linux Greatware proletariat <myemailisaol@defunct.org> - 2018-10-23 18:47 -0400
      Re: GNU/Linux Greatware owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-10-24 04:37 +0000
        Re: GNU/Linux Greatware Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-23 21:55 -0700
        Re: GNU/Linux Greatware proletariat <myemailisaol@defunct.org> - 2018-10-24 10:33 -0400
          Re: GNU/Linux Greatware owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-10-24 15:04 +0000
        Re: GNU/Linux Greatware Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-10-24 08:34 -0700
          Re: GNU/Linux Greatware Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-24 09:51 -0700
          Re: GNU/Linux Greatware proletariat <myemailisaol@defunct.org> - 2018-10-24 13:14 -0400
            Re: GNU/Linux Greatware owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-10-24 17:53 +0000
              Re: GNU/Linux Greatware Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-10-24 18:42 -0700
            Re: GNU/Linux Greatware RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-10-24 20:03 +0000
              Re: GNU/Linux Greatware proletariat <myemailisaol@defunct.org> - 2018-10-24 17:42 -0400
                Re: GNU/Linux Greatware Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-24 15:03 -0700
                  Re: GNU/Linux Greatware Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-24 16:53 -0700
                Re: GNU/Linux Greatware SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-10-24 20:12 -0400
                  Re: GNU/Linux Greatware proletariat <myemailisaol@defunct.org> - 2018-10-24 20:25 -0400
                    Re: GNU/Linux Greatware SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-10-24 20:32 -0400
                      Re: GNU/Linux Greatware Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-10-24 18:49 -0700
              Re: GNU/Linux Greatware Hadron Quark <hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2018-10-25 00:30 +0200
                Re: GNU/Linux Greatware Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-10-24 16:52 -0700
                  Re: GNU/Linux Greatware Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-24 17:24 -0700
              Re: GNU/Linux Greatware "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> - 2018-10-24 23:10 +0000
                Re: GNU/Linux Greatware Hadron Quark <hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2018-10-25 01:29 +0200
                Re: GNU/Linux Greatware Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-24 16:37 -0700
                Re: GNU/Linux Greatware Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-10-24 16:51 -0700
              Re: GNU/Linux Greatware Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-10-24 18:30 -0700
                Re: GNU/Linux Greatware Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-24 18:43 -0700
            Re: GNU/Linux Greatware Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-10-24 18:44 -0700
    Re: GNU/Linux Greatware Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-23 17:13 -0700
    The CORRECT term is Software, Fuck Tard! Simon bar Sinister <john.h.gohde@gmail.com> - 2018-10-24 09:26 -0700

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#473449

On 2018-10-24 8:25 p.m., proletariat wrote:
> On Wed, 24 Oct 2018 20:12:52 -0400, SilverSlimer wrote:
> 
>> On 2018-10-24 5:42 p.m., proletariat wrote:
>>> On Wed, 24 Oct 2018 20:03:55 -0000 (UTC), RonB wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2018-10-24, proletariat <myemailisaol@defunct.org> wrote:
>>>>> On Wed, 24 Oct 2018 08:34:53 -0700, Snit wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 10/23/18 9:37 PM, owl wrote:
>>>>>>> proletariat <myemailisaol@defunct.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 23 Oct 2018 20:01:35 GMT, F. Russell wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> When discussing GNU/Linux, the term "software" is very inadequate.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I propose using the term "greatware" when referring to GNU/Linux
>>>>>>>>> projects.  In comparison to the alternative commercial junkware
>>>>>>>>> and trashware that floods the market, GNU/Linux is composed only
>>>>>>>>> of greatware.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> GNU/Linux is, beyond all doubt, Greatware.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hail Linux!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hail GNU and the FSF!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hail Stallman!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Guess your last attempt at trolling didn't gain much traction so you are
>>>>>>>> trying again.
>>>>>>>> If you want to troll you need to become more inventive. How about
>>>>>>>> explaining how word processors are crap and how you can use vi / emacs to
>>>>>>>> perform the same tasks that a good Windows or OSX word processing program
>>>>>>>> can?
>>>>>>>> Make sure to demonstrate how it takes you 9 different programs to do it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You can start with embedding an image and then rotating it to any arbitrary
>>>>>>>> angle, say 67 degrees.
>>>>>>>>     
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://imgur.com/a/vqAbE2n
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Would love to see the work flow.
>>>>>
>>>>> Exactly.
>>>>> Say he wants to produce a flyer for a garage sale, embed images in it,
>>>>> rotate and edit the images and have the text flow around them. How many
>>>>> programs will the Linux user need to perform that task and how well do they
>>>>> integrate with each other.
>>>>> I know this is trivial on a Mac.
>>>>
>>>> Here again, "Snit" and "Hadron" are rambling on about "workflow" when
>>>> neither of them would know what work was if bit them on the ass. For "Snit"
>>>> "workflow" has something to do with saving recipes in PDF format and
>>>> trolling Linux newsgroups, for "Hadron" it looks like it's exclusively
>>>> trolling Linux newsgroups.
>>>
>>> So instead of getting your panties in a knot, demonstrate how Linux is
>>> better for the task?
>>
>> Your only hope for that is owl, sincerely.
> 
> Owl knows his Linux and does a credible job of showing Linux's
> capabilities. The problem is his alternatives are not something anyone but
> a diehard Linux user would use.

Agreed. It's one of the reasons I feel it necessary to sometimes view 
his videos a second or third time to understand what it is that he's 
showing us. Linux has solutions for most things that people would use 
but certain things just aren't going to work and his solutions aren't 
going to appeal to a public which believes that iPads are a "versatile 
tool."

>>> Show how Linux is superior for the average, no programmer,  person.
>>> You can't. And the reason you can't is because you know that when it comes
>>> to a typical user, Linux is 10 years behind in terms of usability and
>>> consistency compared to Windows.
>>
>> I can't disagree though the depth of functionality is shockingly good in
>> Linux. Like I said, regular people aren't likely to notice.
>>
>> < snip >
> 
> They aren't even going to bother because they are interested in
> applications, moving data, using data etc and Windows or OSX have the best
> applications and thus a better user experience.

In the end, it's all about the applications.

I remember around 2002 or 2001, my girlfriend's dad asked me to help an 
old man neighbour of his with his computer. The guy was a die-hard Mac 
user for years - he even gave me a Mac SE and a laser printer for it - 
but moved to Windows 98 by the end of the millennium. The reason? 
Applications. He loved buying programs even though he had no intention 
of using any of them. It was completely illogical but you don't expect 
things old people do to make sense.

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#473471

On 10/24/18 5:32 PM, SilverSlimer wrote:
...
>>>>> Here again, "Snit" and "Hadron" are rambling on about "workflow" when
>>>>> neither of them would know what work was if bit them on the ass. 
>>>>> For "Snit"
>>>>> "workflow" has something to do with saving recipes in PDF format and
>>>>> trolling Linux newsgroups, for "Hadron" it looks like it's exclusively
>>>>> trolling Linux newsgroups.
>>>>
>>>> So instead of getting your panties in a knot, demonstrate how Linux is
>>>> better for the task?
>>>
>>> Your only hope for that is owl, sincerely.
>>
>> Owl knows his Linux and does a credible job of showing Linux's
>> capabilities. The problem is his alternatives are not something anyone 
>> but
>> a diehard Linux user would use.
> 
> Agreed. It's one of the reasons I feel it necessary to sometimes view 
> his videos a second or third time to understand what it is that he's 
> showing us. Linux has solutions for most things that people would use 
> but certain things just aren't going to work and his solutions aren't 
> going to appeal to a public which believes that iPads are a "versatile 
> tool."

I like his videos and appreciate them -- and learn from them. But Owl 
has a very hard time understanding why a general user would not want a 
rather convoluted workflow that requires a pretty high level of 
scripting / programming ability (much higher than most of the 
"advocates"... and than me). He also fails to understand the benefits of 
direct manipulation and real time manipulations.

Still, he IS likely the best of the "advocates" at showing off Linux. 
Marek also used to be pretty good.

>>>> Show how Linux is superior for the average, no programmer,  person.
>>>> You can't. And the reason you can't is because you know that when it 
>>>> comes
>>>> to a typical user, Linux is 10 years behind in terms of usability and
>>>> consistency compared to Windows.
>>>
>>> I can't disagree though the depth of functionality is shockingly good in
>>> Linux. Like I said, regular people aren't likely to notice.
>>>
>>> < snip >
>>
>> They aren't even going to bother because they are interested in
>> applications, moving data, using data etc and Windows or OSX have the 
>> best
>> applications and thus a better user experience.
> 
> In the end, it's all about the applications.

I would say it is about the tasks... but there is a LOT of overlap there. :)

> I remember around 2002 or 2001, my girlfriend's dad asked me to help an 
> old man neighbour of his with his computer. The guy was a die-hard Mac 
> user for years - he even gave me a Mac SE and a laser printer for it - 
> but moved to Windows 98 by the end of the millennium. The reason? 
> Applications. He loved buying programs even though he had no intention 
> of using any of them. It was completely illogical but you don't expect 
> things old people do to make sense.
> 


-- 
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cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel 
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

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#473423

RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> writes:

> On 2018-10-24, proletariat <myemailisaol@defunct.org> wrote:
>> On Wed, 24 Oct 2018 08:34:53 -0700, Snit wrote:
>>
>>> On 10/23/18 9:37 PM, owl wrote:
>>>> proletariat <myemailisaol@defunct.org> wrote:
>>>>> On 23 Oct 2018 20:01:35 GMT, F. Russell wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> When discussing GNU/Linux, the term "software" is very inadequate.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I propose using the term "greatware" when referring to GNU/Linux
>>>>>> projects.  In comparison to the alternative commercial junkware
>>>>>> and trashware that floods the market, GNU/Linux is composed only
>>>>>> of greatware.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> GNU/Linux is, beyond all doubt, Greatware.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hail Linux!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hail GNU and the FSF!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hail Stallman!
>>>>>
>>>>> Guess your last attempt at trolling didn't gain much traction so you are
>>>>> trying again.
>>>>> If you want to troll you need to become more inventive. How about
>>>>> explaining how word processors are crap and how you can use vi / emacs to
>>>>> perform the same tasks that a good Windows or OSX word processing program
>>>>> can?
>>>>> Make sure to demonstrate how it takes you 9 different programs to do it.
>>>>>
>>>>> You can start with embedding an image and then rotating it to any arbitrary
>>>>> angle, say 67 degrees.
>>>>>   
>>>> 
>>>> https://imgur.com/a/vqAbE2n
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> Would love to see the work flow.
>>
>> Exactly.
>> Say he wants to produce a flyer for a garage sale, embed images in it,
>> rotate and edit the images and have the text flow around them. How many
>> programs will the Linux user need to perform that task and how well do they
>> integrate with each other.
>> I know this is trivial on a Mac.
>
> Here again, "Snit" and "Hadron" are rambling on about "workflow" when 
> neither of them would know what work was if bit them on the ass. For "Snit" 
> "workflow" has something to do with saving recipes in PDF format and 
> trolling Linux newsgroups, for "Hadron" it looks like it's exclusively 
> trolling Linux newsgroups.

Poor old wRonG. Workflow is a very important term and clever GUIs combine
many tweaks in predefined macros or scripts to facilitate common
workflows. You're almost as much of a turd as turdv. Your one redeeming
feature is you're not a libturd like turdv and Creepy Chris Linosuck.

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#473438

On 10/24/18 3:30 PM, Hadron Quark wrote:
> RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> writes:
> 
>> On 2018-10-24, proletariat <myemailisaol@defunct.org> wrote:
>>> On Wed, 24 Oct 2018 08:34:53 -0700, Snit wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 10/23/18 9:37 PM, owl wrote:
>>>>> proletariat <myemailisaol@defunct.org> wrote:
>>>>>> On 23 Oct 2018 20:01:35 GMT, F. Russell wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> When discussing GNU/Linux, the term "software" is very inadequate.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I propose using the term "greatware" when referring to GNU/Linux
>>>>>>> projects.  In comparison to the alternative commercial junkware
>>>>>>> and trashware that floods the market, GNU/Linux is composed only
>>>>>>> of greatware.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> GNU/Linux is, beyond all doubt, Greatware.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hail Linux!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hail GNU and the FSF!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hail Stallman!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Guess your last attempt at trolling didn't gain much traction so you are
>>>>>> trying again.
>>>>>> If you want to troll you need to become more inventive. How about
>>>>>> explaining how word processors are crap and how you can use vi / emacs to
>>>>>> perform the same tasks that a good Windows or OSX word processing program
>>>>>> can?
>>>>>> Make sure to demonstrate how it takes you 9 different programs to do it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You can start with embedding an image and then rotating it to any arbitrary
>>>>>> angle, say 67 degrees.
>>>>>>    
>>>>>
>>>>> https://imgur.com/a/vqAbE2n
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Would love to see the work flow.
>>>
>>> Exactly.
>>> Say he wants to produce a flyer for a garage sale, embed images in it,
>>> rotate and edit the images and have the text flow around them. How many
>>> programs will the Linux user need to perform that task and how well do they
>>> integrate with each other.
>>> I know this is trivial on a Mac.
>>
>> Here again, "Snit" and "Hadron" are rambling on about "workflow" when
>> neither of them would know what work was if bit them on the ass. For "Snit"
>> "workflow" has something to do with saving recipes in PDF format and
>> trolling Linux newsgroups, for "Hadron" it looks like it's exclusively
>> trolling Linux newsgroups.
> 
> Poor old wRonG. Workflow is a very important term and clever GUIs combine
> many tweaks in predefined macros or scripts to facilitate common
> workflows. You're almost as much of a turd as turdv. Your one redeeming
> feature is you're not a libturd like turdv and Creepy Chris Linosuck.
> 

RonB looked at ONE workflow and decided that is what the term "workflow" 
means. Weird.

-- 
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They 
cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel 
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

<https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>

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#473445

On Wednesday, October 24, 2018 at 4:52:30 PM UTC-7, Snit wrote:
> On 10/24/18 3:30 PM, Hadron Quark wrote:
> > RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> writes:
> > 
> >> On 2018-10-24, proletariat <myemailisaol@defunct.org> wrote:
> >>> On Wed, 24 Oct 2018 08:34:53 -0700, Snit wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> On 10/23/18 9:37 PM, owl wrote:
> >>>>> proletariat <myemailisaol@defunct.org> wrote:
> >>>>>> On 23 Oct 2018 20:01:35 GMT, F. Russell wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> When discussing GNU/Linux, the term "software" is very inadequate.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I propose using the term "greatware" when referring to GNU/Linux
> >>>>>>> projects.  In comparison to the alternative commercial junkware
> >>>>>>> and trashware that floods the market, GNU/Linux is composed only
> >>>>>>> of greatware.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> GNU/Linux is, beyond all doubt, Greatware.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Hail Linux!
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Hail GNU and the FSF!
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Hail Stallman!
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Guess your last attempt at trolling didn't gain much traction so you are
> >>>>>> trying again.
> >>>>>> If you want to troll you need to become more inventive. How about
> >>>>>> explaining how word processors are crap and how you can use vi / emacs to
> >>>>>> perform the same tasks that a good Windows or OSX word processing program
> >>>>>> can?
> >>>>>> Make sure to demonstrate how it takes you 9 different programs to do it.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> You can start with embedding an image and then rotating it to any arbitrary
> >>>>>> angle, say 67 degrees.
> >>>>>>    
> >>>>>
> >>>>> https://imgur.com/a/vqAbE2n
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Would love to see the work flow.
> >>>
> >>> Exactly.
> >>> Say he wants to produce a flyer for a garage sale, embed images in it,
> >>> rotate and edit the images and have the text flow around them. How many
> >>> programs will the Linux user need to perform that task and how well do they
> >>> integrate with each other.
> >>> I know this is trivial on a Mac.
> >>
> >> Here again, "Snit" and "Hadron" are rambling on about "workflow" when
> >> neither of them would know what work was if bit them on the ass. For "Snit"
> >> "workflow" has something to do with saving recipes in PDF format and
> >> trolling Linux newsgroups, for "Hadron" it looks like it's exclusively
> >> trolling Linux newsgroups.
> > 
> > Poor old wRonG. Workflow is a very important term and clever GUIs combine
> > many tweaks in predefined macros or scripts to facilitate common
> > workflows. You're almost as much of a turd as turdv. Your one redeeming
> > feature is you're not a libturd like turdv and Creepy Chris Linosuck.
> > 
> 
> RonB looked at ONE workflow and decided that is what the term "workflow" 
> means. Weird.
> 
> -- 
> Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They 
> cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel 
> somehow superior by attacking the messenger.
> 
> They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.
> 
> <https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>



It was Klaus Schadenfreude who stated that he and his hired winos used to lie to strangers all the time and it was harmless fun to his way of thinking. 

Klaus Schadenfreude is a nitwit folks have auto-read his puppets/shills. What he really should use is one that keeps switching names, then they'd have a shot at being a fraction as replied to as he is. 

Klaus Schadenfreude doesn't have any idea what he is sniveling about. 

It was Klaus Schadenfreude who got caught using untold numbers of socks over and over, and these are 'people' who come clearly out of the blue immediately into threads where he was being proved wrong... continuously for years. 



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#473433

On Wed, 24 Oct 2018 20:03:55 +0000, RonB wrote:

>  
> For Glasser 
> "workflow" has something to do with saving recipes in PDF format
>

Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!  He'll be working on that "problem" for the
next twenty years, or until he drops dead, whichever comes first.

>
> for "Hadron" it looks like it's exclusively 
> trolling Linux newsgroups.
>

They are two shining examples of the degenerates for which
Micro$oft and Apphole are made.

Neither could compute his way out of a paper bag.

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#473435

"F. Russell" <fr@random.info> writes:

> On Wed, 24 Oct 2018 20:03:55 +0000, RonB wrote:
>
>>  
>> For Glasser 
>> "workflow" has something to do with saving recipes in PDF format
>>
>
> Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!  He'll be working on that "problem" for the
> next twenty years, or until he drops dead, whichever comes first.
>
>>
>> for "Hadron" it looks like it's exclusively 
>> trolling Linux newsgroups.
>>
>
> They are two shining examples of the degenerates for which
> Micro$oft and Apphole are made.
>
> Neither could compute his way out of a paper bag.
>

And as any regular here knows, I know more about Linux than you two
turds could ever hope to learn in twenty lifetimes. I use it. And love
it.


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#473436

On Wednesday, October 24, 2018 at 4:10:05 PM UTC-7, F. Russell wrote:
> On Wed, 24 Oct 2018 20:03:55 +0000, RonB wrote:
> 
> >  
> > For Glasser 
> > "workflow" has something to do with saving recipes in PDF format
> >
> 
> Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!  He'll be working on that "problem" for the
> next twenty years, or until he drops dead, whichever comes first.
> 
> >
> > for "Hadron" it looks like it's exclusively 
> > trolling Linux newsgroups.
> >
> 
> They are two shining examples of the degenerates for which
> Micro$oft and Apphole are made.
> 
> Neither could compute his way out of a paper bag.



Klaus Schadenfreude suffers from senile lies so, to him, everything, even simple comments about tech, are "libel". Who DOESN'T know this? Seriously, those of you who troll are not able to check yourselves anymore. I thought showing Klaus Schadenfreude I know where he lives might help the situation. It did not. 

Learning Linux... forever a rookie. I am not going to pretend Steven Petruzzellis did not save my skin on image editing and I acknowledge his time. Klaus Schadenfreude has this thread to examine and could begin to at least pretend he has a clue from here on... but he fell on his face when he pretended to know more than Steven Petruzzellis. Can emoji be concatenated into a string with a logical connection to the "real" world; that is the question posed recently by those astonished at the fire-hose of nonsense from assorted google-posters and neck beard freaks. 

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#473437

On 10/24/18 4:10 PM, F. Russell wrote:
> On Wed, 24 Oct 2018 20:03:55 +0000, RonB wrote:
> 
>>   
>> For Glasser
>> "workflow" has something to do with saving recipes in PDF format
>>
> 
> Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!  He'll be working on that "problem" for the
> next twenty years, or until he drops dead, whichever comes first.

What problem? Or do you mean the one Owl and other Linux folks are 
having in finding a decent workflow for that? If so it is not that big 
of a deal... it CAN be done on Linux, and it is not even that hard.

>> for "Hadron" it looks like it's exclusively
>> trolling Linux newsgroups.
>>
> 
> They are two shining examples of the degenerates for which
> Micro$oft and Apphole are made.
> 
> Neither could compute his way out of a paper bag.
> 


-- 
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They 
cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel 
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

<https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>

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#473460

On 10/24/18 1:03 PM, RonB wrote:
...

>>>>> You can start with embedding an image and then rotating it to any arbitrary
>>>>> angle, say 67 degrees.
>>>>>    
>>>>
>>>> https://imgur.com/a/vqAbE2n
>>>>
>>>
>>> Would love to see the work flow.
>>
>> Exactly.
>> Say he wants to produce a flyer for a garage sale, embed images in it,
>> rotate and edit the images and have the text flow around them. How many
>> programs will the Linux user need to perform that task and how well do they
>> integrate with each other.
>> I know this is trivial on a Mac.
> 
> Here again, "Snit" and "Hadron" are rambling on about "workflow" when
> neither of them would know what work was if bit them on the ass. For "Snit"
> "workflow" has something to do with saving recipes in PDF format 

The task above does not include recipes nor PDFs. What happened is you 
got stuck on that ONE workflow... one YOU clearly not only feel Linux 
handles poorly but for which you cannot move on.

There is a LOT to computers. They are tools which can do MANY tasks.

> and
> trolling Linux newsgroups, for "Hadron" it looks like it's exclusively
> trolling Linux newsgroups.




-- 
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They 
cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel 
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

<https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>

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#473466

On Wednesday, October 24, 2018 at 6:30:04 PM UTC-7, Snit wrote:
> On 10/24/18 1:03 PM, RonB wrote:
> ...
> 
> >>>>> You can start with embedding an image and then rotating it to any arbitrary
> >>>>> angle, say 67 degrees.
> >>>>>    
> >>>>
> >>>> https://imgur.com/a/vqAbE2n
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> Would love to see the work flow.
> >>
> >> Exactly.
> >> Say he wants to produce a flyer for a garage sale, embed images in it,
> >> rotate and edit the images and have the text flow around them. How many
> >> programs will the Linux user need to perform that task and how well do they
> >> integrate with each other.
> >> I know this is trivial on a Mac.
> > 
> > Here again, "Snit" and "Hadron" are rambling on about "workflow" when
> > neither of them would know what work was if bit them on the ass. For "Snit"
> > "workflow" has something to do with saving recipes in PDF format 
> 
> The task above does not include recipes nor PDFs. What happened is you 
> got stuck on that ONE workflow... one YOU clearly not only feel Linux 
> handles poorly but for which you cannot move on.
> 
> There is a LOT to computers. They are tools which can do MANY tasks.
> 
> > and
> > trolling Linux newsgroups, for "Hadron" it looks like it's exclusively
> > trolling Linux newsgroups.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They 
> cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel 
> somehow superior by attacking the messenger.
> 
> They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.
> 
> <https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>



A shadow of reason, projected spontaneously, at the wrong time. The advocates imply searching for advice for an open source application is wrong. 

To my way of thinking, spending time maybe learning isn't a waste. Insisting you know more than everyone else and trying to persuade people that it is true? THAT is a waste ;) 

Where did you find your scripts? Tizen runs on the ChromeOS kernel. So yeah, ChromeOS is mobile. ChromeOS is a super computer. ChromeOS is a server. ChromeOS is a desktop. ChromeOS is growing in market share. 

Sadly there are too many "slow is good enough" false "advocates" and not enough people with the patience to help the people with Macs. 

My view point: Even if he was simply researching for the sake of learning, the idea that earning expertise as being one of having "nothing" to show for it does not make any sense because you'll have the knowledge to show for it and knowledge is a powerful thing. Now Snit on the other end of the game doesn't matter. All that matters is Jonas Eklundh gets to deliver the punchline. So how to deal with this? Don't pay attention the moron. Reason isn't part of ruse and never has been. 

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#473468

On 10/24/18 10:14 AM, proletariat wrote:
> On Wed, 24 Oct 2018 08:34:53 -0700, Snit wrote:
> 
>> On 10/23/18 9:37 PM, owl wrote:
>>> proletariat <myemailisaol@defunct.org> wrote:
>>>> On 23 Oct 2018 20:01:35 GMT, F. Russell wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> When discussing GNU/Linux, the term "software" is very inadequate.
>>>>>
>>>>> I propose using the term "greatware" when referring to GNU/Linux
>>>>> projects.  In comparison to the alternative commercial junkware
>>>>> and trashware that floods the market, GNU/Linux is composed only
>>>>> of greatware.
>>>>>
>>>>> GNU/Linux is, beyond all doubt, Greatware.
>>>>>
>>>>> Hail Linux!
>>>>>
>>>>> Hail GNU and the FSF!
>>>>>
>>>>> Hail Stallman!
>>>>
>>>> Guess your last attempt at trolling didn't gain much traction so you are
>>>> trying again.
>>>> If you want to troll you need to become more inventive. How about
>>>> explaining how word processors are crap and how you can use vi / emacs to
>>>> perform the same tasks that a good Windows or OSX word processing program
>>>> can?
>>>> Make sure to demonstrate how it takes you 9 different programs to do it.
>>>>
>>>> You can start with embedding an image and then rotating it to any arbitrary
>>>> angle, say 67 degrees.
>>>>    
>>>
>>> https://imgur.com/a/vqAbE2n
>>>
>>
>> Would love to see the work flow.
> 
> Exactly.
> Say he wants to produce a flyer for a garage sale, embed images in it,
> rotate and edit the images and have the text flow around them. How many
> programs will the Linux user need to perform that task and how well do they
> integrate with each other.
> I know this is trivial on a Mac.
> 

I just want him to show how he did as he did... then we can compare how 
it is done on the competition. This gives him a chance to show how Linux 
shines.

My guess: he will not do so OR he will write a script to do it and claim 
this makes it easier on Linux.

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cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel 
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

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#473238

On Tuesday, October 23, 2018 at 1:01:52 PM UTC-7, F. Russell wrote:
> When discussing GNU/Linux, the term "software" is very inadequate.
> 
> I propose using the term "greatware" when referring to GNU/Linux
> projects.  In comparison to the alternative commercial junkware
> and trashware that floods the market, GNU/Linux is composed only
> of greatware.
> 
> GNU/Linux is, beyond all doubt, Greatware.
> 
> Hail Linux!
> 
> Hail GNU and the FSF!
> 
> Hail Stallman!



BTW, I've already pointed out that his use of "cult-like" to describe honest people is name calling, since he's likening them to pack of wolves. 

Just hogwash from Chris Ahlstrom. But Chris Ahlstrom has thoroughly left tech behind and is just holding me culpable for the exploits of himself. You're clueless! Honestly, those of you who troll are not able to manage Jonas Eklundh anymore. The lone concern that matters to Chris Ahlstrom is being "honest", and if he can not have that he will do more research to effectively beat advocates down, which only serves to kill reasoned discussion. 



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#473349 — The CORRECT term is Software, Fuck Tard!

On Tuesday, October 23, 2018 at 4:01:52 PM UTC-4, F. Russell wrote:
> When discussing GNU/Linux, the term "software" is very inadequate.
> 
> I propose using the term "greatware" when referring to GNU/Linux
> projects.  In comparison to the alternative commercial junkware
> and trashware that floods the market, GNU/Linux is composed only
> of greatware.
> 
> GNU/Linux is, beyond all doubt, Greatware.
> 
> Hail Linux!
> 
> Hail GNU and the FSF!
> 
> Hail Stallman!



The CORRECT term is Software, Fuck Tard!

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