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Re: GNU/Linux Greatware

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On 10/24/18 5:32 PM, SilverSlimer wrote:
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>>>>> Here again, "Snit" and "Hadron" are rambling on about "workflow" when
>>>>> neither of them would know what work was if bit them on the ass. 
>>>>> For "Snit"
>>>>> "workflow" has something to do with saving recipes in PDF format and
>>>>> trolling Linux newsgroups, for "Hadron" it looks like it's exclusively
>>>>> trolling Linux newsgroups.
>>>>
>>>> So instead of getting your panties in a knot, demonstrate how Linux is
>>>> better for the task?
>>>
>>> Your only hope for that is owl, sincerely.
>>
>> Owl knows his Linux and does a credible job of showing Linux's
>> capabilities. The problem is his alternatives are not something anyone 
>> but
>> a diehard Linux user would use.
> 
> Agreed. It's one of the reasons I feel it necessary to sometimes view 
> his videos a second or third time to understand what it is that he's 
> showing us. Linux has solutions for most things that people would use 
> but certain things just aren't going to work and his solutions aren't 
> going to appeal to a public which believes that iPads are a "versatile 
> tool."

I like his videos and appreciate them -- and learn from them. But Owl 
has a very hard time understanding why a general user would not want a 
rather convoluted workflow that requires a pretty high level of 
scripting / programming ability (much higher than most of the 
"advocates"... and than me). He also fails to understand the benefits of 
direct manipulation and real time manipulations.

Still, he IS likely the best of the "advocates" at showing off Linux. 
Marek also used to be pretty good.

>>>> Show how Linux is superior for the average, no programmer,  person.
>>>> You can't. And the reason you can't is because you know that when it 
>>>> comes
>>>> to a typical user, Linux is 10 years behind in terms of usability and
>>>> consistency compared to Windows.
>>>
>>> I can't disagree though the depth of functionality is shockingly good in
>>> Linux. Like I said, regular people aren't likely to notice.
>>>
>>> < snip >
>>
>> They aren't even going to bother because they are interested in
>> applications, moving data, using data etc and Windows or OSX have the 
>> best
>> applications and thus a better user experience.
> 
> In the end, it's all about the applications.

I would say it is about the tasks... but there is a LOT of overlap there. :)

> I remember around 2002 or 2001, my girlfriend's dad asked me to help an 
> old man neighbour of his with his computer. The guy was a die-hard Mac 
> user for years - he even gave me a Mac SE and a laser printer for it - 
> but moved to Windows 98 by the end of the millennium. The reason? 
> Applications. He loved buying programs even though he had no intention 
> of using any of them. It was completely illogical but you don't expect 
> things old people do to make sense.
> 


-- 
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They 
cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel 
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

<https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>

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GNU/Linux Greatware "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> - 2018-10-23 20:01 +0000
  Re: GNU/Linux Greatware Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-23 13:33 -0700
    Re: GNU/Linux Greatware Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-23 18:30 -0700
      Re: GNU/Linux Greatware Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-23 22:58 -0700
  Re: GNU/Linux Greatware proletariat <myemailisaol@defunct.org> - 2018-10-23 18:47 -0400
    Re: GNU/Linux Greatware owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-10-24 04:37 +0000
      Re: GNU/Linux Greatware Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-23 21:55 -0700
      Re: GNU/Linux Greatware proletariat <myemailisaol@defunct.org> - 2018-10-24 10:33 -0400
        Re: GNU/Linux Greatware owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-10-24 15:04 +0000
      Re: GNU/Linux Greatware Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-10-24 08:34 -0700
        Re: GNU/Linux Greatware Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-24 09:51 -0700
        Re: GNU/Linux Greatware proletariat <myemailisaol@defunct.org> - 2018-10-24 13:14 -0400
          Re: GNU/Linux Greatware owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-10-24 17:53 +0000
            Re: GNU/Linux Greatware Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-10-24 18:42 -0700
          Re: GNU/Linux Greatware RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-10-24 20:03 +0000
            Re: GNU/Linux Greatware proletariat <myemailisaol@defunct.org> - 2018-10-24 17:42 -0400
              Re: GNU/Linux Greatware Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-24 15:03 -0700
                Re: GNU/Linux Greatware Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-24 16:53 -0700
              Re: GNU/Linux Greatware SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-10-24 20:12 -0400
                Re: GNU/Linux Greatware proletariat <myemailisaol@defunct.org> - 2018-10-24 20:25 -0400
                Re: GNU/Linux Greatware SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-10-24 20:32 -0400
                Re: GNU/Linux Greatware Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-10-24 18:49 -0700
            Re: GNU/Linux Greatware Hadron Quark <hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2018-10-25 00:30 +0200
              Re: GNU/Linux Greatware Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-10-24 16:52 -0700
                Re: GNU/Linux Greatware Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-24 17:24 -0700
            Re: GNU/Linux Greatware "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> - 2018-10-24 23:10 +0000
              Re: GNU/Linux Greatware Hadron Quark <hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2018-10-25 01:29 +0200
              Re: GNU/Linux Greatware Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-24 16:37 -0700
              Re: GNU/Linux Greatware Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-10-24 16:51 -0700
            Re: GNU/Linux Greatware Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-10-24 18:30 -0700
              Re: GNU/Linux Greatware Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-24 18:43 -0700
          Re: GNU/Linux Greatware Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-10-24 18:44 -0700
  Re: GNU/Linux Greatware Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-23 17:13 -0700
  The CORRECT term is Software, Fuck Tard! Simon bar Sinister <john.h.gohde@gmail.com> - 2018-10-24 09:26 -0700

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