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OT: Steve Jobs exposed as an abusive creep, by his daughter.

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First post2018-09-07 08:37 -0500
Last post2018-09-07 18:45 -0700
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  OT:  Steve Jobs exposed as an abusive creep, by his daughter. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-07 08:37 -0500
    Re: OT:  Steve Jobs exposed as an abusive creep, by his daughter. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-09-07 07:34 -0700
      Re: OT:  Steve Jobs exposed as an abusive creep, by his daughter. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-07 10:41 -0500
        Re: OT:  Steve Jobs exposed as an abusive creep, by his daughter. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-09-07 08:52 -0700
          Re: OT:  Steve Jobs exposed as an abusive creep, by his daughter. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-07 11:14 -0500
            Re: OT:  Steve Jobs exposed as an abusive creep, by his daughter. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-09-07 09:53 -0700
            Re: OT:  Steve Jobs exposed as an abusive creep, by his daughter. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-10 08:46 -0500
              Re: OT:  Steve Jobs exposed as an abusive creep, by his daughter. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-10 07:11 -0700
              Re: OT: Steve Jobs exposed as an abusive creep, by his daughter. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-10 07:31 -0700
              Re: OT:  Steve Jobs exposed as an abusive creep, by his daughter. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-09-17 10:02 -0700
                Re: OT: Steve Jobs exposed as an abusive creep, by his daughter. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-17 11:47 -0700
        Re: OT:  Steve Jobs exposed as an abusive creep, by his daughter. -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2018-09-07 09:17 -0700
          Re: OT:  Steve Jobs exposed as an abusive creep, by his daughter. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-07 11:38 -0500
          Re: OT:  Steve Jobs exposed as an abusive creep, by his daughter. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-09-07 09:54 -0700
        Re: OT: Steve Jobs exposed as an abusive creep, by his daughter. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-07 09:29 -0700
        Re: OT:  Steve Jobs exposed as an abusive creep, by his daughter. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-08 11:09 -0700
    Re: OT: Steve Jobs exposed as an abusive creep, by his daughter. DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-09-07 10:52 -0400
    #MeToo Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-09-07 12:17 -0700
      Re: #MeToo SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-07 20:51 +0000
        Re: #MeToo benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-09-07 17:29 -0400
          Re: #MeToo % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-09-07 14:32 -0600
            Re: #MeToo benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-09-07 17:47 -0400
              Re: #MeToo % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-09-07 14:55 -0600
        Re: #MeToo Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2018-09-07 20:10 -0700
      Re: #MeToo "Sir Gregory Hall,  Esq." <greghall@yacht_maester.fake> - 2018-09-09 13:56 -0400
    Re: OT:  Steve Jobs exposed as an abusive creep, by his daughter. SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-07 20:48 +0000
      Re: OT:  Steve Jobs exposed as an abusive creep, by his daughter. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-09-07 14:59 -0700
        Re: OT:  Steve Jobs exposed as an abusive creep, by his daughter. SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-07 23:30 +0000
          Re: OT:  Steve Jobs exposed as an abusive creep, by his daughter. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-09-08 08:19 -0700
            Re: OT:  Steve Jobs exposed as an abusive creep, by his daughter. SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-08 15:41 +0000
              Re: OT:  Steve Jobs exposed as an abusive creep, by his daughter. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-09-08 09:00 -0700
                Re: OT: Steve Jobs exposed as an abusive creep, by his daughter. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-08 10:12 -0700
                Re: OT:  Steve Jobs exposed as an abusive creep, by his daughter. SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-08 18:23 +0000
                  Re: OT: Steve Jobs exposed as an abusive creep, by his daughter. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-08 11:47 -0700
                    Re: OT: Steve Jobs exposed as an abusive creep, by his daughter. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-08 12:12 -0700
                      Re: OT: Steve Jobs exposed as an abusive creep, by his daughter. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-08 20:15 -0700
                  Re: OT:  Steve Jobs exposed as an abusive creep, by his daughter. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-09-08 11:48 -0700
                    Re: OT:  Steve Jobs exposed as an abusive creep, by his daughter. SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-08 20:00 +0000
                      Re: OT:  Steve Jobs exposed as an abusive creep, by his daughter. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-08 13:29 -0700
                      Re: OT:  Steve Jobs exposed as an abusive creep, by his daughter. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-08 21:33 -0700
              Re: OT: Steve Jobs exposed as an abusive creep, by his daughter. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-08 10:10 -0700
          Re: OT: Steve Jobs exposed as an abusive creep, by his daughter. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-08 09:30 -0700
          Re: OT: Steve Jobs exposed as an abusive creep, by his daughter. DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-09-09 13:32 -0400
            Re: OT: Steve Jobs exposed as an abusive creep, by his daughter. SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-09 17:56 +0000
              Re: OT: Steve Jobs exposed as an abusive creep, by his daughter. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-09 11:08 -0700
                Re: OT: Steve Jobs exposed as an abusive creep, by his daughter. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-09 11:36 -0700
              Re: OT: Steve Jobs exposed as an abusive creep, by his daughter. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-09 11:21 -0700
                Re: OT: Steve Jobs exposed as an abusive creep, by his daughter. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-09 16:18 -0700
              Pretty young girls shouting "can I suck your dick" ?! Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-09-09 15:24 -0700
                Re: Pretty young girls shouting "can I suck your dick" ?! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-09 16:01 -0700
                  Pretty young girls shouting "can I suck your dick" ?! Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-09-09 16:18 -0700
                    Re: Pretty young girls shouting "can I suck your dick" ?! Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-09 16:34 -0700
                Re: Pretty young girls shouting "can I suck your dick" ?! Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-09 16:02 -0700
                Re: Pretty young girls shouting "can I suck your dick" ?! SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-09 23:51 +0000
                  Re: Pretty young girls shouting "can I suck your dick" ?! Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-09 18:39 -0700
              Re: OT: Steve Jobs exposed as an abusive creep, by his daughter. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-10 07:17 -0500
                Re: OT: Steve Jobs exposed as an abusive creep, by his daughter. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-10 05:37 -0700
      Re: OT: Steve Jobs exposed as an abusive creep, by his daughter. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-07 18:45 -0700

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#466229 — Re: #MeToo

From% <persent@gmail.com>
Date2018-09-07 14:32 -0600
SubjectRe: #MeToo
Message-ID<birg9q.3fh.19.1@news.alt.net>
In reply to#466228
On 2018-09-07 3:29 PM, benj wrote:
> On 9/7/2018 4:51 PM, SilverSlimer wrote:
>> On Fri, 07 Sep 2018 12:17:11 -0700, Jeff-Relf.Me wrote:
>>
>>> I don't have sex,
>>
>> I'm truly astounded.
>>
> Why? Just read Rolf's posts and it all quickly falls into place.


no it doesn't

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#466230 — Re: #MeToo

Frombenj <benj.fake@gmail.com>
Date2018-09-07 17:47 -0400
SubjectRe: #MeToo
Message-ID<pmurm9$12qv$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#466229
On 9/7/2018 4:32 PM, % wrote:
> On 2018-09-07 3:29 PM, benj wrote:
>> On 9/7/2018 4:51 PM, SilverSlimer wrote:
>>> On Fri, 07 Sep 2018 12:17:11 -0700, Jeff-Relf.Me wrote:
>>>
>>>> I don't have sex,
>>>
>>> I'm truly astounded.
>>>
>> Why? Just read Rolf's posts and it all quickly falls into place.
> 
> 
> no it doesn't

Obviously since you have spoken nothing more needs be discussed.

Ego much?

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#466232 — Re: #MeToo

From% <persent@gmail.com>
Date2018-09-07 14:55 -0600
SubjectRe: #MeToo
Message-ID<birhle.hdo.19.1@news.alt.net>
In reply to#466230
On 2018-09-07 3:47 PM, benj wrote:
> On 9/7/2018 4:32 PM, % wrote:
>> On 2018-09-07 3:29 PM, benj wrote:
>>> On 9/7/2018 4:51 PM, SilverSlimer wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 07 Sep 2018 12:17:11 -0700, Jeff-Relf.Me wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I don't have sex,
>>>>
>>>> I'm truly astounded.
>>>>
>>> Why? Just read Rolf's posts and it all quickly falls into place.
>>
>>
>> no it doesn't
> 
> Obviously since you have spoken nothing more needs be discussed.
> 
> Ego much?


what else is there to say ,
you beat off like a mad man so what

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#466259 — Re: #MeToo

FromCheckmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com>
Date2018-09-07 20:10 -0700
SubjectRe: #MeToo
Message-ID<MPG.35fcdd7c5cb883b49948a4@news.altopia.com>
In reply to#466227
Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading posts by 
Checkmate!  In article <CxBkD.6001$MJ2.789@fx11.iad>, silver@slim.er 
says...


> 
> On Fri, 07 Sep 2018 12:17:11 -0700, Jeff-Relf.Me wrote:
> 
> > I don't have sex,
> 
> I'm truly astounded.

He meant with a partner, I'm sure.

-- 
Checkmate ® 
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Philosopher, Humanitarian
Poet, Elektrishun to the Stars
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Copyright © 2018 
all rights reserved

In loving memory of The Battle Kitten
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"There are many here among us, 
who feel that life is but a joke."

"I am the author of nearly as much kook butthurt as 
kensi."    -Nadegda  
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#466497 — Re: #MeToo

From"Sir Gregory Hall, Esq." <greghall@yacht_maester.fake>
Date2018-09-09 13:56 -0400
SubjectRe: #MeToo
Message-ID<6009pdl1qt2oh4nj6f0n0smtdtearbfvkc@4ax.com>
In reply to#466210
On Fri, 07 Sep 2018 12:17:11 -0700 (Seattle), Jeff-Relf.Me  @. wrote:

<...>

>You can't, or shouldn't, condemn men for getting boners.
>Most men lust after girly girls, not the Hillary Clinton types.
>
>I don't have sex, and I don't care for girly girls,
>but I _ sure _ as _ hell don't like the Hillary Clinton types.
>#MeToo

<...>

So, it would appear that you like intellectual girls
like kensi. Or, that's what Nads is claiming.

Tell you what. I'll hold kensi down if you want
to have sex with her.

It would be fun watching her get her due.  LOL!

-- 

Yours Truly,
Gregory Hall

"Tsk, tsk. No one appreciates his brilliance, poor fellow. 
(There might be a message in that for him.)"--Rhonda Lea Kirk Fries

http://apprhondaleahkirkfries.blogspot.com/2014/05/rhonda-leah-kirk-fries-interview.html

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#466224

FromSilverSlimer <silver@slim.er>
Date2018-09-07 20:48 +0000
Message-ID<9uBkD.5999$MJ2.5795@fx11.iad>
In reply to#466183
On Fri, 07 Sep 2018 08:37:19 -0500, chrisv wrote:

> This guy was an *asshole* of Hadronian proportions.
> 
> https://nypost.com/2018/09/06/steve-jobs-exposed-as-an-abusive-creep-by-
his-daughter/
> 
> I recall the fanbois in here, using "logic" worthy of a "-hh" or a
> "Steve Carroll", claiming that the millions of mourners "proved" how
> great a man, Jobs was.  *So* much "better" than some obscure FOSS guy,
> you know.

One of the best movies I've ever watched about the asshole was "Pirates 
of Silicon Valley." I actually put up the movie on PewTube when the site 
was still up. Knowing what we've learned today about him, it's clear that 
it was a very authentic depiction of his life and personality and that 
Noah Wyle did a great job playing him as the talentless, disloyal, 
manipulative coward that he was. 

I remember thinking that he was an absolutely awful human being and glad 
that I was nothing like him... except that we were born exactly 24 years 
apart to the day. 

-- 
SilverSlimer
FSF Contributor / EFF Member / Free speech advocate
Absolute centrist, proud Catholic

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#466233

FromSteve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com>
Date2018-09-07 14:59 -0700
Message-ID<086408ea-4896-44d7-b4d3-5801ecd0b769@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#466224
On Friday, September 7, 2018 at 2:48:07 PM UTC-6, SilverSlimer wrote:
> On Fri, 07 Sep 2018 08:37:19 -0500, chrisv wrote:
> 
> > This guy was an *asshole* of Hadronian proportions.
> > 
> > https://nypost.com/2018/09/06/steve-jobs-exposed-as-an-abusive-creep-by-
> his-daughter/
> > 
> > I recall the fanbois in here, using "logic" worthy of a "-hh" or a
> > "Steve Carroll", claiming that the millions of mourners "proved" how
> > great a man, Jobs was.  *So* much "better" than some obscure FOSS guy,
> > you know.
> 
> One of the best movies I've ever watched about the asshole was "Pirates 
> of Silicon Valley." I actually put up the movie on PewTube when the site 
> was still up. Knowing what we've learned today about him, it's clear that 
> it was a very authentic depiction of his life and personality and that 
> Noah Wyle did a great job playing him as the talentless, disloyal, 
> manipulative coward that he was. 
> 
> I remember thinking that he was an absolutely awful human being and glad 
> that I was nothing like him... except that we were born exactly 24 years 
> apart to the day. 

One thing that's overlooked, what it was like to grow up in that part of the 
Bay Area at that time. There's no question in my mind this helped make Jobs 
into what he later became known for being. He may have been genetically 
predisposed to certain things but that area, in that particular stretch of time, 
helped to create quite a few weird people. 

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#466245

FromSilverSlimer <silver@slim.er>
Date2018-09-07 23:30 +0000
Message-ID<mSDkD.93719$HK2.5156@fx08.iad>
In reply to#466233
On Fri, 07 Sep 2018 14:59:42 -0700, Steve Carroll wrote:

> On Friday, September 7, 2018 at 2:48:07 PM UTC-6, SilverSlimer wrote:
>> On Fri, 07 Sep 2018 08:37:19 -0500, chrisv wrote:
>> 
>> > This guy was an *asshole* of Hadronian proportions.
>> > 
>> > https://nypost.com/2018/09/06/steve-jobs-exposed-as-an-abusive-creep-
by-
>> his-daughter/
>> > 
>> > I recall the fanbois in here, using "logic" worthy of a "-hh" or a
>> > "Steve Carroll", claiming that the millions of mourners "proved" how
>> > great a man, Jobs was.  *So* much "better" than some obscure FOSS
>> > guy, you know.
>> 
>> One of the best movies I've ever watched about the asshole was "Pirates
>> of Silicon Valley." I actually put up the movie on PewTube when the
>> site was still up. Knowing what we've learned today about him, it's
>> clear that it was a very authentic depiction of his life and
>> personality and that Noah Wyle did a great job playing him as the
>> talentless, disloyal, manipulative coward that he was.
>> 
>> I remember thinking that he was an absolutely awful human being and
>> glad that I was nothing like him... except that we were born exactly 24
>> years apart to the day.
> 
> One thing that's overlooked, what it was like to grow up in that part of
> the Bay Area at that time. There's no question in my mind this helped
> make Jobs into what he later became known for being. He may have been
> genetically predisposed to certain things but that area, in that
> particular stretch of time,
> helped to create quite a few weird people.

With all of the excrement on the street, the hippies and the homosexuals, 
I don't think I will ever willingly go to San Francisco in my life. 

-- 
SilverSlimer
FSF Contributor / EFF Member / Free speech advocate
Absolute centrist, proud Catholic

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#466277

FromSteve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com>
Date2018-09-08 08:19 -0700
Message-ID<0466faa1-c051-40d1-81ad-320663742517@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#466245
On Friday, September 7, 2018 at 5:30:29 PM UTC-6, SilverSlimer wrote:
> On Fri, 07 Sep 2018 14:59:42 -0700, Steve Carroll wrote:
> 
> > On Friday, September 7, 2018 at 2:48:07 PM UTC-6, SilverSlimer wrote:
> >> On Fri, 07 Sep 2018 08:37:19 -0500, chrisv wrote:
> >> 
> >> > This guy was an *asshole* of Hadronian proportions.
> >> > 
> >> > https://nypost.com/2018/09/06/steve-jobs-exposed-as-an-abusive-creep-
> by-
> >> his-daughter/
> >> > 
> >> > I recall the fanbois in here, using "logic" worthy of a "-hh" or a
> >> > "Steve Carroll", claiming that the millions of mourners "proved" how
> >> > great a man, Jobs was.  *So* much "better" than some obscure FOSS
> >> > guy, you know.
> >> 
> >> One of the best movies I've ever watched about the asshole was "Pirates
> >> of Silicon Valley." I actually put up the movie on PewTube when the
> >> site was still up. Knowing what we've learned today about him, it's
> >> clear that it was a very authentic depiction of his life and
> >> personality and that Noah Wyle did a great job playing him as the
> >> talentless, disloyal, manipulative coward that he was.
> >> 
> >> I remember thinking that he was an absolutely awful human being and
> >> glad that I was nothing like him... except that we were born exactly 24
> >> years apart to the day.
> > 
> > One thing that's overlooked, what it was like to grow up in that part of
> > the Bay Area at that time. There's no question in my mind this helped
> > make Jobs into what he later became known for being. He may have been
> > genetically predisposed to certain things but that area, in that
> > particular stretch of time,
> > helped to create quite a few weird people.
> 
> With all of the excrement on the street, the hippies and the homosexuals, 
> I don't think I will ever willingly go to San Francisco in my life. 

I don't mean those kinds of things... besides, 50 years ago SF wasn't
dirty like it currently is. But I'm not even talking about SF, the city, I'm
referring to the areas south of the city:

<https://imgur.com/a/LEpqHDB>

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#466281

FromSilverSlimer <silver@slim.er>
Date2018-09-08 15:41 +0000
Message-ID<K4SkD.22591$LK2.21294@fx36.iad>
In reply to#466277
On Sat, 08 Sep 2018 08:19:13 -0700, Steve Carroll wrote:

> On Friday, September 7, 2018 at 5:30:29 PM UTC-6, SilverSlimer wrote:
>> On Fri, 07 Sep 2018 14:59:42 -0700, Steve Carroll wrote:
>> 
>> > On Friday, September 7, 2018 at 2:48:07 PM UTC-6, SilverSlimer wrote:
>> >> On Fri, 07 Sep 2018 08:37:19 -0500, chrisv wrote:
>> >> 
>> >> > This guy was an *asshole* of Hadronian proportions.
>> >> > 
>> >> > https://nypost.com/2018/09/06/steve-jobs-exposed-as-an-abusive-
creep-
>> by-
>> >> his-daughter/
>> >> > 
>> >> > I recall the fanbois in here, using "logic" worthy of a "-hh" or a
>> >> > "Steve Carroll", claiming that the millions of mourners "proved"
>> >> > how great a man, Jobs was.  *So* much "better" than some obscure
>> >> > FOSS guy, you know.
>> >> 
>> >> One of the best movies I've ever watched about the asshole was
>> >> "Pirates of Silicon Valley." I actually put up the movie on PewTube
>> >> when the site was still up. Knowing what we've learned today about
>> >> him, it's clear that it was a very authentic depiction of his life
>> >> and personality and that Noah Wyle did a great job playing him as
>> >> the talentless, disloyal, manipulative coward that he was.
>> >> 
>> >> I remember thinking that he was an absolutely awful human being and
>> >> glad that I was nothing like him... except that we were born exactly
>> >> 24 years apart to the day.
>> > 
>> > One thing that's overlooked, what it was like to grow up in that part
>> > of the Bay Area at that time. There's no question in my mind this
>> > helped make Jobs into what he later became known for being. He may
>> > have been genetically predisposed to certain things but that area, in
>> > that particular stretch of time,
>> > helped to create quite a few weird people.
>> 
>> With all of the excrement on the street, the hippies and the
>> homosexuals,
>> I don't think I will ever willingly go to San Francisco in my life.
> 
> I don't mean those kinds of things... besides, 50 years ago SF wasn't
> dirty like it currently is.

Exactly. Then, in the 1970s, the hippy population allowed the homosexuals 
to take over and you've got yourself an excrement-covered, hobo-populated 
liberal paradise.

> But I'm not even talking about SF, the city,
> I'm referring to the areas south of the city:
> 
> <https://imgur.com/a/LEpqHDB>

How liberal are those areas? Any answer other than "not at all" makes me 
unwilling to visit it.

-- 
SilverSlimer
FSF Contributor / EFF Member / Free speech advocate
Absolute centrist, proud Catholic

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#466283

FromSteve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com>
Date2018-09-08 09:00 -0700
Message-ID<6e3dbd96-d746-42aa-87c6-ccd40910f052@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#466281
On Saturday, September 8, 2018 at 9:41:33 AM UTC-6, SilverSlimer wrote:
> On Sat, 08 Sep 2018 08:19:13 -0700, Steve Carroll wrote:
> 
> > On Friday, September 7, 2018 at 5:30:29 PM UTC-6, SilverSlimer wrote:
> >> On Fri, 07 Sep 2018 14:59:42 -0700, Steve Carroll wrote:
> >> 
> >> > On Friday, September 7, 2018 at 2:48:07 PM UTC-6, SilverSlimer wrote:
> >> >> On Fri, 07 Sep 2018 08:37:19 -0500, chrisv wrote:
> >> >> 
> >> >> > This guy was an *asshole* of Hadronian proportions.
> >> >> > 
> >> >> > https://nypost.com/2018/09/06/steve-jobs-exposed-as-an-abusive-
> creep-
> >> by-
> >> >> his-daughter/
> >> >> > 
> >> >> > I recall the fanbois in here, using "logic" worthy of a "-hh" or a
> >> >> > "Steve Carroll", claiming that the millions of mourners "proved"
> >> >> > how great a man, Jobs was.  *So* much "better" than some obscure
> >> >> > FOSS guy, you know.
> >> >> 
> >> >> One of the best movies I've ever watched about the asshole was
> >> >> "Pirates of Silicon Valley." I actually put up the movie on PewTube
> >> >> when the site was still up. Knowing what we've learned today about
> >> >> him, it's clear that it was a very authentic depiction of his life
> >> >> and personality and that Noah Wyle did a great job playing him as
> >> >> the talentless, disloyal, manipulative coward that he was.
> >> >> 
> >> >> I remember thinking that he was an absolutely awful human being and
> >> >> glad that I was nothing like him... except that we were born exactly
> >> >> 24 years apart to the day.
> >> > 
> >> > One thing that's overlooked, what it was like to grow up in that part
> >> > of the Bay Area at that time. There's no question in my mind this
> >> > helped make Jobs into what he later became known for being. He may
> >> > have been genetically predisposed to certain things but that area, in
> >> > that particular stretch of time,
> >> > helped to create quite a few weird people.
> >> 
> >> With all of the excrement on the street, the hippies and the
> >> homosexuals,
> >> I don't think I will ever willingly go to San Francisco in my life.
> > 
> > I don't mean those kinds of things... besides, 50 years ago SF wasn't
> > dirty like it currently is.
> 
> Exactly. Then, in the 1970s, the hippy population allowed the homosexuals 
> to take over and you've got yourself an excrement-covered, hobo-populated 
> liberal paradise.

LOL! No, dude. 

Steve Jobs came after the first incarnation of hippies, he was only 12 during the 
'Summer of Love'. He probably looked at that in a similar way that I did (I was 9). 
Our older brothers/sisters, friends, etc. were lashing out then, many who came
after them didn't lash out, at least, not in the same ways. They could see that 
there was a new path which wasn't as rigid and corporate as that of our parents;
it was being led by hippies who still wanted to eat decently and have a roof over 
their heads (fair weather hippies, so to speak).

> > But I'm not even talking about SF, the city,
> > I'm referring to the areas south of the city:
> > 
> > <https://imgur.com/a/LEpqHDB>
> 
> How liberal are those areas? Any answer other than "not at all" makes me 
> unwilling to visit it.

It's probably mostly comprised of what I call 'conditional liberals' ;)

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#466304 — Re: OT: Steve Jobs exposed as an abusive creep, by his daughter.

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2018-09-08 10:12 -0700
SubjectRe: OT: Steve Jobs exposed as an abusive creep, by his daughter.
Message-ID<fvie7jF7jn4U5@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#466283
On 9/8/18 9:00 AM, Steve Carroll wrote:
> On Saturday, September 8, 2018 at 9:41:33 AM UTC-6, SilverSlimer wrote:
>> On Sat, 08 Sep 2018 08:19:13 -0700, Steve Carroll wrote:
>>
>>> On Friday, September 7, 2018 at 5:30:29 PM UTC-6, SilverSlimer wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 07 Sep 2018 14:59:42 -0700, Steve Carroll wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Friday, September 7, 2018 at 2:48:07 PM UTC-6, SilverSlimer wrote:
>>>>>> On Fri, 07 Sep 2018 08:37:19 -0500, chrisv wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This guy was an *asshole* of Hadronian proportions.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://nypost.com/2018/09/06/steve-jobs-exposed-as-an-abusive-
>> creep-
>>>> by-
>>>>>> his-daughter/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I recall the fanbois in here, using "logic" worthy of a "-hh" or a
>>>>>>> "Steve Carroll", claiming that the millions of mourners "proved"
>>>>>>> how great a man, Jobs was.  *So* much "better" than some obscure
>>>>>>> FOSS guy, you know.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> One of the best movies I've ever watched about the asshole was
>>>>>> "Pirates of Silicon Valley." I actually put up the movie on PewTube
>>>>>> when the site was still up. Knowing what we've learned today about
>>>>>> him, it's clear that it was a very authentic depiction of his life
>>>>>> and personality and that Noah Wyle did a great job playing him as
>>>>>> the talentless, disloyal, manipulative coward that he was.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I remember thinking that he was an absolutely awful human being and
>>>>>> glad that I was nothing like him... except that we were born exactly
>>>>>> 24 years apart to the day.
>>>>>
>>>>> One thing that's overlooked, what it was like to grow up in that part
>>>>> of the Bay Area at that time. There's no question in my mind this
>>>>> helped make Jobs into what he later became known for being. He may
>>>>> have been genetically predisposed to certain things but that area, in
>>>>> that particular stretch of time,
>>>>> helped to create quite a few weird people.
>>>>
>>>> With all of the excrement on the street, the hippies and the
>>>> homosexuals,
>>>> I don't think I will ever willingly go to San Francisco in my life.
>>>
>>> I don't mean those kinds of things... besides, 50 years ago SF wasn't
>>> dirty like it currently is.
>>
>> Exactly. Then, in the 1970s, the hippy population allowed the homosexuals
>> to take over and you've got yourself an excrement-covered, hobo-populated
>> liberal paradise.
> 
> LOL! No, dude.
> 
> Steve Jobs came after the first incarnation of hippies, he was only 12 during the
> 'Summer of Love'. He probably looked at that in a similar way that I did (I was 9).
> Our older brothers/sisters, friends, etc. were lashing out then, many who came
> after them didn't lash out, at least, not in the same ways. They could see that
> there was a new path which wasn't as rigid and corporate as that of our parents;
> it was being led by hippies who still wanted to eat decently and have a roof over
> their heads (fair weather hippies, so to speak).
> 
>>> But I'm not even talking about SF, the city,
>>> I'm referring to the areas south of the city:
>>>
>>> <https://imgur.com/a/LEpqHDB>
>>
>> How liberal are those areas? Any answer other than "not at all" makes me
>> unwilling to visit it.
> 
> It's probably mostly comprised of what I call 'conditional liberals' ;)
> 

Remember when you used to attack me for using labels. Oh, that is when I 
was noting the GENERAL differences between the two "sides":

* Liberals: support equal rights and environmental protection, with a 
focus on investing in the future and building a stronger tie between 
hard work / productivity and financial reward.

Additionally, Liberals want evidence-based regulation and oversight to 
help ensure clean air and water, safe food, and human rights. This 
includes following the scientific evidence about climate change and food 
safety, and things like setting levels of lead and other harmful 
substances allowed, and even to wanting to do research to reduce the 
harm of tools such as cars and guns and swimming pools. This is a form 
of control, and conservatives are right to note that. And they are right 
to note that sometimes these measures are taken too far.

* Conservative: support special entitlements for whites, Christians, 
males, heterosexuals, and the wealthy, with a focus on redistributing 
wealth to the very richest in the nation with the idea that this will 
somehow help others.

Conservatives want regulation and oversight based on their own feelings 
and what they believe has historically existed (which is often 
incorrect), or even just based on their own religion. This includes 
controlling which consenting adults can marry each other, what a woman 
can do with her own body, and even insisting the government gets to 
define YOUR gender. They also work to create regulations on voting to 
limit who can vote, for if the people truly get a voice they know their 
ideas are less likely to be accepted. Liberals are right to call 
conservatives out on this also being a form of control and, I think, a 
less defensible one.


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cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel 
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

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#466314

FromSilverSlimer <silver@slim.er>
Date2018-09-08 18:23 +0000
Message-ID<8sUkD.16798$rK2.16301@fx28.iad>
In reply to#466283
On Sat, 08 Sep 2018 09:00:07 -0700, Steve Carroll wrote:

> On Saturday, September 8, 2018 at 9:41:33 AM UTC-6, SilverSlimer wrote:
>> On Sat, 08 Sep 2018 08:19:13 -0700, Steve Carroll wrote:
>> 
>> > On Friday, September 7, 2018 at 5:30:29 PM UTC-6, SilverSlimer wrote:
>> >> On Fri, 07 Sep 2018 14:59:42 -0700, Steve Carroll wrote:
>> >> 
>> >> > On Friday, September 7, 2018 at 2:48:07 PM UTC-6, SilverSlimer
>> >> > wrote:
>> >> >> On Fri, 07 Sep 2018 08:37:19 -0500, chrisv wrote:
>> >> >> 
>> >> >> > This guy was an *asshole* of Hadronian proportions.
>> >> >> > 
>> >> >> > https://nypost.com/2018/09/06/steve-jobs-exposed-as-an-abusive-
>> creep-
>> >> by-
>> >> >> his-daughter/
>> >> >> > 
>> >> >> > I recall the fanbois in here, using "logic" worthy of a "-hh"
>> >> >> > or a "Steve Carroll", claiming that the millions of mourners
>> >> >> > "proved" how great a man, Jobs was.  *So* much "better" than
>> >> >> > some obscure FOSS guy, you know.
>> >> >> 
>> >> >> One of the best movies I've ever watched about the asshole was
>> >> >> "Pirates of Silicon Valley." I actually put up the movie on
>> >> >> PewTube when the site was still up. Knowing what we've learned
>> >> >> today about him, it's clear that it was a very authentic
>> >> >> depiction of his life and personality and that Noah Wyle did a
>> >> >> great job playing him as the talentless, disloyal, manipulative
>> >> >> coward that he was.
>> >> >> 
>> >> >> I remember thinking that he was an absolutely awful human being
>> >> >> and glad that I was nothing like him... except that we were born
>> >> >> exactly 24 years apart to the day.
>> >> > 
>> >> > One thing that's overlooked, what it was like to grow up in that
>> >> > part of the Bay Area at that time. There's no question in my mind
>> >> > this helped make Jobs into what he later became known for being.
>> >> > He may have been genetically predisposed to certain things but
>> >> > that area, in that particular stretch of time,
>> >> > helped to create quite a few weird people.
>> >> 
>> >> With all of the excrement on the street, the hippies and the
>> >> homosexuals,
>> >> I don't think I will ever willingly go to San Francisco in my life.
>> > 
>> > I don't mean those kinds of things... besides, 50 years ago SF wasn't
>> > dirty like it currently is.
>> 
>> Exactly. Then, in the 1970s, the hippy population allowed the
>> homosexuals to take over and you've got yourself an excrement-covered,
>> hobo-populated liberal paradise.
> 
> LOL! No, dude.
> 
> Steve Jobs came after the first incarnation of hippies, he was only 12
> during the 'Summer of Love'. He probably looked at that in a similar way
> that I did (I was 9).
> Our older brothers/sisters, friends, etc. were lashing out then, many
> who came after them didn't lash out, at least, not in the same ways.
> They could see that there was a new path which wasn't as rigid and
> corporate as that of our parents; it was being led by hippies who still
> wanted to eat decently and have a roof over their heads (fair weather
> hippies, so to speak).

Conservatives also believe that people should eat decently and have a 
roof over their heads. The difference is that they believe that the 
individual needs a job and money to purchase both and that the state 
shouldn't be responsible for handing it over at the taxpayer's expense.
 
>> > But I'm not even talking about SF, the city,
>> > I'm referring to the areas south of the city:
>> > 
>> > <https://imgur.com/a/LEpqHDB>
>> 
>> How liberal are those areas? Any answer other than "not at all" makes
>> me unwilling to visit it.
> 
> It's probably mostly comprised of what I call 'conditional liberals' ;)

I'm already annoyed that my province is mostly left-leaning, feminist and 
that any semblance of conservatism only appears in the big city so you 
can imagine how tempted I would be to go to an area which features little 
more than what I'm already accustomed to with a excrement-covered 
homosexual dressing on top. If I visit any place in the United States, 
it'll be a bastion of Americana like Texas or something.

-- 
SilverSlimer
FSF Contributor / EFF Member / Free speech advocate
Absolute centrist, proud Catholic

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#466322 — Re: OT: Steve Jobs exposed as an abusive creep, by his daughter.

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2018-09-08 11:47 -0700
SubjectRe: OT: Steve Jobs exposed as an abusive creep, by his daughter.
Message-ID<fvijpsF8otiU2@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#466314
On 9/8/18 11:23 AM, SilverSlimer wrote:
...
>> Steve Jobs came after the first incarnation of hippies, he was only 12
>> during the 'Summer of Love'. He probably looked at that in a similar way
>> that I did (I was 9).
>> Our older brothers/sisters, friends, etc. were lashing out then, many
>> who came after them didn't lash out, at least, not in the same ways.
>> They could see that there was a new path which wasn't as rigid and
>> corporate as that of our parents; it was being led by hippies who still
>> wanted to eat decently and have a roof over their heads (fair weather
>> hippies, so to speak).
> 
> Conservatives also believe that people should eat decently and have a
> roof over their heads.

They might believe that, but their push to socialize the costs and risks 
of the rich works directly against that goal.

> The difference is that they believe that the
> individual needs a job and money to purchase both and that the state
> shouldn't be responsible for handing it over at the taxpayer's expense.

If that is the case why do they push so hard to hand money over to the 
rich? The claim is inconsistent with the actions.

>>>> But I'm not even talking about SF, the city,
>>>> I'm referring to the areas south of the city:
>>>>
>>>> <https://imgur.com/a/LEpqHDB>
>>>
>>> How liberal are those areas? Any answer other than "not at all" makes
>>> me unwilling to visit it.
>>
>> It's probably mostly comprised of what I call 'conditional liberals' ;)
> 
> I'm already annoyed that my province is mostly left-leaning, feminist and
> that any semblance of conservatism only appears in the big city so you
> can imagine how tempted I would be to go to an area which features little
> more than what I'm already accustomed to with a excrement-covered
> homosexual dressing on top. 

Your loathing for those who are different than you is repulsive. Carroll 
will not call you out on it. Count on that.

> If I visit any place in the United States,
> it'll be a bastion of Americana like Texas or something.

Where a cop enters a black man's apartment illegally, shoots and kills 
him, and the media does not even release the attackers name (though 
thankfully she is being charged with manslaughter).


-- 
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They 
cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel 
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

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#466330 — Re: OT: Steve Jobs exposed as an abusive creep, by his daughter.

FromSteve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com>
Date2018-09-08 12:12 -0700
SubjectRe: OT: Steve Jobs exposed as an abusive creep, by his daughter.
Message-ID<83f94658-25a2-4b92-b11e-79b80c1d26a2@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#466322
On Saturday, September 8, 2018 at 11:47:27 AM UTC-7, Snit wrote:
> On 9/8/18 11:23 AM, SilverSlimer wrote:
> ...
> >> Steve Jobs came after the first incarnation of hippies, he was only 12
> >> during the 'Summer of Love'. He probably looked at that in a similar way
> >> that I did (I was 9).
> >> Our older brothers/sisters, friends, etc. were lashing out then, many
> >> who came after them didn't lash out, at least, not in the same ways.
> >> They could see that there was a new path which wasn't as rigid and
> >> corporate as that of our parents; it was being led by hippies who still
> >> wanted to eat decently and have a roof over their heads (fair weather
> >> hippies, so to speak).
> > 
> > Conservatives also believe that people should eat decently and have a
> > roof over their heads.
> 
> They might believe that, but their push to socialize the costs and risks 
> of the rich works directly against that goal.
> 
> > The difference is that they believe that the
> > individual needs a job and money to purchase both and that the state
> > shouldn't be responsible for handing it over at the taxpayer's expense.
> 
> If that is the case why do they push so hard to hand money over to the 
> rich? The claim is inconsistent with the actions.
> 
> >>>> But I'm not even talking about SF, the city,
> >>>> I'm referring to the areas south of the city:
> >>>>
> >>>> <https://imgur.com/a/LEpqHDB>
> >>>
> >>> How liberal are those areas? Any answer other than "not at all" makes
> >>> me unwilling to visit it.
> >>
> >> It's probably mostly comprised of what I call 'conditional liberals' ;)
> > 
> > I'm already annoyed that my province is mostly left-leaning, feminist and
> > that any semblance of conservatism only appears in the big city so you
> > can imagine how tempted I would be to go to an area which features little
> > more than what I'm already accustomed to with a excrement-covered
> > homosexual dressing on top. 
> 
> Your loathing for those who are different than you is repulsive. Carroll 
> will not call you out on it. Count on that.
> 
> > If I visit any place in the United States,
> > it'll be a bastion of Americana like Texas or something.
> 
> Where a cop enters a black man's apartment illegally, shoots and kills 
> him, and the media does not even release the attackers name (though 
> thankfully she is being charged with manslaughter).
> 
> 
> -- 
> Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They 
> cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel 
> somehow superior by attacking the messenger.
> 
> They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.
> 
> <https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>



Don't look now, but I think Sandman has a serious mancrush on Steven Carroll. Any heinously moronic druggie could easily do the same. I think the point is more than to get people to listen to him. The point is likely to piss me off for trolling outside groups he knows I frequent. 

I suspect Sandman does not even know what is wrong with Clinton. 

Sandman can't get anything else to work, either. You are eight seconds away from being in everyone's kill filter. Having to deal with the use of Wayland is too much for Sandman to deal with. 

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#466405 — Re: OT: Steve Jobs exposed as an abusive creep, by his daughter.

FromSteve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com>
Date2018-09-08 20:15 -0700
SubjectRe: OT: Steve Jobs exposed as an abusive creep, by his daughter.
Message-ID<c90897d6-a9f0-43df-a0af-5453641385b5@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#466330
On Saturday, September 8, 2018 at 12:12:06 PM UTC-7, Steve Carroll wrote:
> On Saturday, September 8, 2018 at 11:47:27 AM UTC-7, Snit wrote:
> > On 9/8/18 11:23 AM, SilverSlimer wrote:
> > ...
> > >> Steve Jobs came after the first incarnation of hippies, he was only 12
> > >> during the 'Summer of Love'. He probably looked at that in a similar way
> > >> that I did (I was 9).
> > >> Our older brothers/sisters, friends, etc. were lashing out then, many
> > >> who came after them didn't lash out, at least, not in the same ways.
> > >> They could see that there was a new path which wasn't as rigid and
> > >> corporate as that of our parents; it was being led by hippies who still
> > >> wanted to eat decently and have a roof over their heads (fair weather
> > >> hippies, so to speak).
> > > 
> > > Conservatives also believe that people should eat decently and have a
> > > roof over their heads.
> > 
> > They might believe that, but their push to socialize the costs and risks 
> > of the rich works directly against that goal.
> > 
> > > The difference is that they believe that the
> > > individual needs a job and money to purchase both and that the state
> > > shouldn't be responsible for handing it over at the taxpayer's expense.
> > 
> > If that is the case why do they push so hard to hand money over to the 
> > rich? The claim is inconsistent with the actions.
> > 
> > >>>> But I'm not even talking about SF, the city,
> > >>>> I'm referring to the areas south of the city:
> > >>>>
> > >>>> <https://imgur.com/a/LEpqHDB>
> > >>>
> > >>> How liberal are those areas? Any answer other than "not at all" makes
> > >>> me unwilling to visit it.
> > >>
> > >> It's probably mostly comprised of what I call 'conditional liberals' ;)
> > > 
> > > I'm already annoyed that my province is mostly left-leaning, feminist and
> > > that any semblance of conservatism only appears in the big city so you
> > > can imagine how tempted I would be to go to an area which features little
> > > more than what I'm already accustomed to with a excrement-covered
> > > homosexual dressing on top. 
> > 
> > Your loathing for those who are different than you is repulsive. Carroll 
> > will not call you out on it. Count on that.
> > 
> > > If I visit any place in the United States,
> > > it'll be a bastion of Americana like Texas or something.
> > 
> > Where a cop enters a black man's apartment illegally, shoots and kills 
> > him, and the media does not even release the attackers name (though 
> > thankfully she is being charged with manslaughter).
> > 
> > 
> > -- 
> > Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They 
> > cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel 
> > somehow superior by attacking the messenger.
> > 
> > They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.
> > 
> > <https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>
> 
> 
> 
> Don't look now, but I think Sandman has a serious mancrush on Steven Carroll. Any heinously moronic druggie could easily do the same. I think the point is more than to get people to listen to him. The point is likely to piss me off for trolling outside groups he knows I frequent. 
> 
> I suspect Sandman does not even know what is wrong with Clinton. 
> 
> Sandman can't get anything else to work, either. You are eight seconds away from being in everyone's kill filter. Having to deal with the use of Wayland is too much for Sandman to deal with. 
> 
> --
> Do not click this link!
> http://www.5z8.info/hack-outlook_c6c9in_michaelangelo-virus
> Jonas Eklundh Communication AB



By listening to 'social warriors' like that you get concepts like 'equality'. Carried to its (un)reasonable solution, the media position that it's 'unequal' for a straight male to not wish to have sex with a transvestite is created. When I was being honest, I wanted to be reasonable and unbiased. I gave Sigmond more than a reasonable person generally would. A flaming bush that never burns, magnified by the reciprocal of the endless vastness of space, demonstrating the vast nothingness of the main character's so-called thought process. I have a MATE system I use as well, but it's better than yours. Contrary to Sigmond's claim that he has "no experience in making enemies" (a lie as demonstrated by the fact that he destroyed CSMA with his crap) he was quoted asking programmers how they would automate posting through Google Groups. 

Oh goodness, that is just tons of hooey. 



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#466323

FromSteve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com>
Date2018-09-08 11:48 -0700
Message-ID<231ae80a-6a49-453c-8637-d408cbbcfbf0@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#466314
On Saturday, September 8, 2018 at 12:23:03 PM UTC-6, SilverSlimer wrote:
> On Sat, 08 Sep 2018 09:00:07 -0700, Steve Carroll wrote:
> 
> > On Saturday, September 8, 2018 at 9:41:33 AM UTC-6, SilverSlimer wrote:
> >> On Sat, 08 Sep 2018 08:19:13 -0700, Steve Carroll wrote:
> >> 
> >> > On Friday, September 7, 2018 at 5:30:29 PM UTC-6, SilverSlimer wrote:
> >> >> On Fri, 07 Sep 2018 14:59:42 -0700, Steve Carroll wrote:
> >> >> 
> >> >> > On Friday, September 7, 2018 at 2:48:07 PM UTC-6, SilverSlimer
> >> >> > wrote:
> >> >> >> On Fri, 07 Sep 2018 08:37:19 -0500, chrisv wrote:
> >> >> >> 
> >> >> >> > This guy was an *asshole* of Hadronian proportions.
> >> >> >> > 
> >> >> >> > https://nypost.com/2018/09/06/steve-jobs-exposed-as-an-abusive-
> >> creep-
> >> >> by-
> >> >> >> his-daughter/
> >> >> >> > 
> >> >> >> > I recall the fanbois in here, using "logic" worthy of a "-hh"
> >> >> >> > or a "Steve Carroll", claiming that the millions of mourners
> >> >> >> > "proved" how great a man, Jobs was.  *So* much "better" than
> >> >> >> > some obscure FOSS guy, you know.
> >> >> >> 
> >> >> >> One of the best movies I've ever watched about the asshole was
> >> >> >> "Pirates of Silicon Valley." I actually put up the movie on
> >> >> >> PewTube when the site was still up. Knowing what we've learned
> >> >> >> today about him, it's clear that it was a very authentic
> >> >> >> depiction of his life and personality and that Noah Wyle did a
> >> >> >> great job playing him as the talentless, disloyal, manipulative
> >> >> >> coward that he was.
> >> >> >> 
> >> >> >> I remember thinking that he was an absolutely awful human being
> >> >> >> and glad that I was nothing like him... except that we were born
> >> >> >> exactly 24 years apart to the day.
> >> >> > 
> >> >> > One thing that's overlooked, what it was like to grow up in that
> >> >> > part of the Bay Area at that time. There's no question in my mind
> >> >> > this helped make Jobs into what he later became known for being.
> >> >> > He may have been genetically predisposed to certain things but
> >> >> > that area, in that particular stretch of time,
> >> >> > helped to create quite a few weird people.
> >> >> 
> >> >> With all of the excrement on the street, the hippies and the
> >> >> homosexuals,
> >> >> I don't think I will ever willingly go to San Francisco in my life.
> >> > 
> >> > I don't mean those kinds of things... besides, 50 years ago SF wasn't
> >> > dirty like it currently is.
> >> 
> >> Exactly. Then, in the 1970s, the hippy population allowed the
> >> homosexuals to take over and you've got yourself an excrement-covered,
> >> hobo-populated liberal paradise.
> > 
> > LOL! No, dude.
> > 
> > Steve Jobs came after the first incarnation of hippies, he was only 12
> > during the 'Summer of Love'. He probably looked at that in a similar way
> > that I did (I was 9).
> > Our older brothers/sisters, friends, etc. were lashing out then, many
> > who came after them didn't lash out, at least, not in the same ways.
> > They could see that there was a new path which wasn't as rigid and
> > corporate as that of our parents; it was being led by hippies who still
> > wanted to eat decently and have a roof over their heads (fair weather
> > hippies, so to speak).
> 
> Conservatives also believe that people should eat decently and have a 
> roof over their heads. The difference is that they believe that the 
> individual needs a job and money to purchase both and that the state 
> shouldn't be responsible for handing it over at the taxpayer's expense.
>  
> >> > But I'm not even talking about SF, the city,
> >> > I'm referring to the areas south of the city:
> >> > 
> >> > <https://imgur.com/a/LEpqHDB>
> >> 
> >> How liberal are those areas? Any answer other than "not at all" makes
> >> me unwilling to visit it.
> > 
> > It's probably mostly comprised of what I call 'conditional liberals' ;)
> 
> I'm already annoyed that my province is mostly left-leaning, feminist and 
> that any semblance of conservatism only appears in the big city so you 
> can imagine how tempted I would be to go to an area which features little 
> more than what I'm already accustomed to with a excrement-covered 
> homosexual dressing on top. If I visit any place in the United States, 
> it'll be a bastion of Americana like Texas or something.

Well, I wouldn't live there anymore... but I'm talking about Jobs during 
a certain time period in the area shown on that map (which isn't very big) 
and how it helped to shape him into what he became known for. Had he
been in some other area he would have had a *very* different outcome.

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#466349

FromSilverSlimer <silver@slim.er>
Date2018-09-08 20:00 +0000
Message-ID<VTVkD.16800$rK2.9539@fx28.iad>
In reply to#466323
On Sat, 08 Sep 2018 11:48:14 -0700, Steve Carroll wrote:

> On Saturday, September 8, 2018 at 12:23:03 PM UTC-6, SilverSlimer wrote:
>> On Sat, 08 Sep 2018 09:00:07 -0700, Steve Carroll wrote:
>> 
>> > On Saturday, September 8, 2018 at 9:41:33 AM UTC-6, SilverSlimer
>> > wrote:
>> >> On Sat, 08 Sep 2018 08:19:13 -0700, Steve Carroll wrote:
>> >> 
>> >> > On Friday, September 7, 2018 at 5:30:29 PM UTC-6, SilverSlimer
>> >> > wrote:
>> >> >> On Fri, 07 Sep 2018 14:59:42 -0700, Steve Carroll wrote:
>> >> >> 
>> >> >> > On Friday, September 7, 2018 at 2:48:07 PM UTC-6, SilverSlimer
>> >> >> > wrote:
>> >> >> >> On Fri, 07 Sep 2018 08:37:19 -0500, chrisv wrote:
>> >> >> >> 
>> >> >> >> > This guy was an *asshole* of Hadronian proportions.
>> >> >> >> > 
>> >> >> >> > https://nypost.com/2018/09/06/steve-jobs-exposed-as-an-
abusive-
>> >> creep-
>> >> >> by-
>> >> >> >> his-daughter/
>> >> >> >> > 
>> >> >> >> > I recall the fanbois in here, using "logic" worthy of a
>> >> >> >> > "-hh" or a "Steve Carroll", claiming that the millions of
>> >> >> >> > mourners "proved" how great a man, Jobs was.  *So* much
>> >> >> >> > "better" than some obscure FOSS guy, you know.
>> >> >> >> 
>> >> >> >> One of the best movies I've ever watched about the asshole was
>> >> >> >> "Pirates of Silicon Valley." I actually put up the movie on
>> >> >> >> PewTube when the site was still up. Knowing what we've learned
>> >> >> >> today about him, it's clear that it was a very authentic
>> >> >> >> depiction of his life and personality and that Noah Wyle did a
>> >> >> >> great job playing him as the talentless, disloyal,
>> >> >> >> manipulative coward that he was.
>> >> >> >> 
>> >> >> >> I remember thinking that he was an absolutely awful human
>> >> >> >> being and glad that I was nothing like him... except that we
>> >> >> >> were born exactly 24 years apart to the day.
>> >> >> > 
>> >> >> > One thing that's overlooked, what it was like to grow up in
>> >> >> > that part of the Bay Area at that time. There's no question in
>> >> >> > my mind this helped make Jobs into what he later became known
>> >> >> > for being. He may have been genetically predisposed to certain
>> >> >> > things but that area, in that particular stretch of time,
>> >> >> > helped to create quite a few weird people.
>> >> >> 
>> >> >> With all of the excrement on the street, the hippies and the
>> >> >> homosexuals,
>> >> >> I don't think I will ever willingly go to San Francisco in my
>> >> >> life.
>> >> > 
>> >> > I don't mean those kinds of things... besides, 50 years ago SF
>> >> > wasn't dirty like it currently is.
>> >> 
>> >> Exactly. Then, in the 1970s, the hippy population allowed the
>> >> homosexuals to take over and you've got yourself an
>> >> excrement-covered,
>> >> hobo-populated liberal paradise.
>> > 
>> > LOL! No, dude.
>> > 
>> > Steve Jobs came after the first incarnation of hippies, he was only
>> > 12 during the 'Summer of Love'. He probably looked at that in a
>> > similar way that I did (I was 9).
>> > Our older brothers/sisters, friends, etc. were lashing out then, many
>> > who came after them didn't lash out, at least, not in the same ways.
>> > They could see that there was a new path which wasn't as rigid and
>> > corporate as that of our parents; it was being led by hippies who
>> > still wanted to eat decently and have a roof over their heads (fair
>> > weather hippies, so to speak).
>> 
>> Conservatives also believe that people should eat decently and have a
>> roof over their heads. The difference is that they believe that the
>> individual needs a job and money to purchase both and that the state
>> shouldn't be responsible for handing it over at the taxpayer's expense.
>>  
>> >> > But I'm not even talking about SF, the city,
>> >> > I'm referring to the areas south of the city:
>> >> > 
>> >> > <https://imgur.com/a/LEpqHDB>
>> >> 
>> >> How liberal are those areas? Any answer other than "not at all"
>> >> makes me unwilling to visit it.
>> > 
>> > It's probably mostly comprised of what I call 'conditional liberals'
>> > ;)
>> 
>> I'm already annoyed that my province is mostly left-leaning, feminist
>> and that any semblance of conservatism only appears in the big city so
>> you can imagine how tempted I would be to go to an area which features
>> little more than what I'm already accustomed to with a
>> excrement-covered homosexual dressing on top. If I visit any place in
>> the United States, it'll be a bastion of Americana like Texas or
>> something.
> 
> Well, I wouldn't live there anymore... but I'm talking about Jobs during
> a certain time period in the area shown on that map (which isn't very
> big)
> and how it helped to shape him into what he became known for. Had he
> been in some other area he would have had a *very* different outcome.

Yeah, someone would probably have kicked his ass for being such an asshole 
and he'd have died a few years ago known only as the manager of Denny's.



-- 
SilverSlimer
FSF Contributor / EFF Member / Free speech advocate
Absolute centrist, proud Catholic

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#466353

FromSteve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com>
Date2018-09-08 13:29 -0700
Message-ID<07cf0be4-62d5-44e8-928e-682f63f0bd73@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#466349
On Saturday, September 8, 2018 at 1:00:55 PM UTC-7, SilverSlimer wrote:
> On Sat, 08 Sep 2018 11:48:14 -0700, Steve Carroll wrote:
> 
> > On Saturday, September 8, 2018 at 12:23:03 PM UTC-6, SilverSlimer wrote:
> >> On Sat, 08 Sep 2018 09:00:07 -0700, Steve Carroll wrote:
> >> 
> >> > On Saturday, September 8, 2018 at 9:41:33 AM UTC-6, SilverSlimer
> >> > wrote:
> >> >> On Sat, 08 Sep 2018 08:19:13 -0700, Steve Carroll wrote:
> >> >> 
> >> >> > On Friday, September 7, 2018 at 5:30:29 PM UTC-6, SilverSlimer
> >> >> > wrote:
> >> >> >> On Fri, 07 Sep 2018 14:59:42 -0700, Steve Carroll wrote:
> >> >> >> 
> >> >> >> > On Friday, September 7, 2018 at 2:48:07 PM UTC-6, SilverSlimer
> >> >> >> > wrote:
> >> >> >> >> On Fri, 07 Sep 2018 08:37:19 -0500, chrisv wrote:
> >> >> >> >> 
> >> >> >> >> > This guy was an *asshole* of Hadronian proportions.
> >> >> >> >> > 
> >> >> >> >> > https://nypost.com/2018/09/06/steve-jobs-exposed-as-an-
> abusive-
> >> >> creep-
> >> >> >> by-
> >> >> >> >> his-daughter/
> >> >> >> >> > 
> >> >> >> >> > I recall the fanbois in here, using "logic" worthy of a
> >> >> >> >> > "-hh" or a "Steve Carroll", claiming that the millions of
> >> >> >> >> > mourners "proved" how great a man, Jobs was.  *So* much
> >> >> >> >> > "better" than some obscure FOSS guy, you know.
> >> >> >> >> 
> >> >> >> >> One of the best movies I've ever watched about the asshole was
> >> >> >> >> "Pirates of Silicon Valley." I actually put up the movie on
> >> >> >> >> PewTube when the site was still up. Knowing what we've learned
> >> >> >> >> today about him, it's clear that it was a very authentic
> >> >> >> >> depiction of his life and personality and that Noah Wyle did a
> >> >> >> >> great job playing him as the talentless, disloyal,
> >> >> >> >> manipulative coward that he was.
> >> >> >> >> 
> >> >> >> >> I remember thinking that he was an absolutely awful human
> >> >> >> >> being and glad that I was nothing like him... except that we
> >> >> >> >> were born exactly 24 years apart to the day.
> >> >> >> > 
> >> >> >> > One thing that's overlooked, what it was like to grow up in
> >> >> >> > that part of the Bay Area at that time. There's no question in
> >> >> >> > my mind this helped make Jobs into what he later became known
> >> >> >> > for being. He may have been genetically predisposed to certain
> >> >> >> > things but that area, in that particular stretch of time,
> >> >> >> > helped to create quite a few weird people.
> >> >> >> 
> >> >> >> With all of the excrement on the street, the hippies and the
> >> >> >> homosexuals,
> >> >> >> I don't think I will ever willingly go to San Francisco in my
> >> >> >> life.
> >> >> > 
> >> >> > I don't mean those kinds of things... besides, 50 years ago SF
> >> >> > wasn't dirty like it currently is.
> >> >> 
> >> >> Exactly. Then, in the 1970s, the hippy population allowed the
> >> >> homosexuals to take over and you've got yourself an
> >> >> excrement-covered,
> >> >> hobo-populated liberal paradise.
> >> > 
> >> > LOL! No, dude.
> >> > 
> >> > Steve Jobs came after the first incarnation of hippies, he was only
> >> > 12 during the 'Summer of Love'. He probably looked at that in a
> >> > similar way that I did (I was 9).
> >> > Our older brothers/sisters, friends, etc. were lashing out then, many
> >> > who came after them didn't lash out, at least, not in the same ways.
> >> > They could see that there was a new path which wasn't as rigid and
> >> > corporate as that of our parents; it was being led by hippies who
> >> > still wanted to eat decently and have a roof over their heads (fair
> >> > weather hippies, so to speak).
> >> 
> >> Conservatives also believe that people should eat decently and have a
> >> roof over their heads. The difference is that they believe that the
> >> individual needs a job and money to purchase both and that the state
> >> shouldn't be responsible for handing it over at the taxpayer's expense.
> >>  
> >> >> > But I'm not even talking about SF, the city,
> >> >> > I'm referring to the areas south of the city:
> >> >> > 
> >> >> > <https://imgur.com/a/LEpqHDB>
> >> >> 
> >> >> How liberal are those areas? Any answer other than "not at all"
> >> >> makes me unwilling to visit it.
> >> > 
> >> > It's probably mostly comprised of what I call 'conditional liberals'
> >> > ;)
> >> 
> >> I'm already annoyed that my province is mostly left-leaning, feminist
> >> and that any semblance of conservatism only appears in the big city so
> >> you can imagine how tempted I would be to go to an area which features
> >> little more than what I'm already accustomed to with a
> >> excrement-covered homosexual dressing on top. If I visit any place in
> >> the United States, it'll be a bastion of Americana like Texas or
> >> something.
> > 
> > Well, I wouldn't live there anymore... but I'm talking about Jobs during
> > a certain time period in the area shown on that map (which isn't very
> > big)
> > and how it helped to shape him into what he became known for. Had he
> > been in some other area he would have had a *very* different outcome.
> 
> Yeah, someone would probably have kicked his ass for being such an asshole 
> and he'd have died a few years ago known only as the manager of Denny's.
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> SilverSlimer
> FSF Contributor / EFF Member / Free speech advocate
> Absolute centrist, proud Catholic



I suspect we have two different notions for a good reason. Both Sandman and Klaus 'The Flooder' Schadenfreude had their oversights and their delusions. One presented it dishonestly and didn't do anything too horrendous that could not be re-done in a way that made it look like he had a clue. 

Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha! LOL! Come on, dude... even you have plonked that dolt. Given what he is no one would condemn anyone for seeking to be rid of his stupid form of craziness. 

--
Top Ten Ways Klaus 'The Flooder' Schadenfreude Trolls
https://youtu.be/Z5wo5aE7MUk
Jonas Eklundh

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#466412

FromSteve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com>
Date2018-09-08 21:33 -0700
Message-ID<7a7999e0-6064-404a-972d-89775137b73c@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#466349
On Saturday, September 8, 2018 at 1:00:55 PM UTC-7, SilverSlimer wrote:
> On Sat, 08 Sep 2018 11:48:14 -0700, Steve Carroll wrote:
> 
> > On Saturday, September 8, 2018 at 12:23:03 PM UTC-6, SilverSlimer wrote:
> >> On Sat, 08 Sep 2018 09:00:07 -0700, Steve Carroll wrote:
> >> 
> >> > On Saturday, September 8, 2018 at 9:41:33 AM UTC-6, SilverSlimer
> >> > wrote:
> >> >> On Sat, 08 Sep 2018 08:19:13 -0700, Steve Carroll wrote:
> >> >> 
> >> >> > On Friday, September 7, 2018 at 5:30:29 PM UTC-6, SilverSlimer
> >> >> > wrote:
> >> >> >> On Fri, 07 Sep 2018 14:59:42 -0700, Steve Carroll wrote:
> >> >> >> 
> >> >> >> > On Friday, September 7, 2018 at 2:48:07 PM UTC-6, SilverSlimer
> >> >> >> > wrote:
> >> >> >> >> On Fri, 07 Sep 2018 08:37:19 -0500, chrisv wrote:
> >> >> >> >> 
> >> >> >> >> > This guy was an *asshole* of Hadronian proportions.
> >> >> >> >> > 
> >> >> >> >> > https://nypost.com/2018/09/06/steve-jobs-exposed-as-an-
> abusive-
> >> >> creep-
> >> >> >> by-
> >> >> >> >> his-daughter/
> >> >> >> >> > 
> >> >> >> >> > I recall the fanbois in here, using "logic" worthy of a
> >> >> >> >> > "-hh" or a "Steve Carroll", claiming that the millions of
> >> >> >> >> > mourners "proved" how great a man, Jobs was.  *So* much
> >> >> >> >> > "better" than some obscure FOSS guy, you know.
> >> >> >> >> 
> >> >> >> >> One of the best movies I've ever watched about the asshole was
> >> >> >> >> "Pirates of Silicon Valley." I actually put up the movie on
> >> >> >> >> PewTube when the site was still up. Knowing what we've learned
> >> >> >> >> today about him, it's clear that it was a very authentic
> >> >> >> >> depiction of his life and personality and that Noah Wyle did a
> >> >> >> >> great job playing him as the talentless, disloyal,
> >> >> >> >> manipulative coward that he was.
> >> >> >> >> 
> >> >> >> >> I remember thinking that he was an absolutely awful human
> >> >> >> >> being and glad that I was nothing like him... except that we
> >> >> >> >> were born exactly 24 years apart to the day.
> >> >> >> > 
> >> >> >> > One thing that's overlooked, what it was like to grow up in
> >> >> >> > that part of the Bay Area at that time. There's no question in
> >> >> >> > my mind this helped make Jobs into what he later became known
> >> >> >> > for being. He may have been genetically predisposed to certain
> >> >> >> > things but that area, in that particular stretch of time,
> >> >> >> > helped to create quite a few weird people.
> >> >> >> 
> >> >> >> With all of the excrement on the street, the hippies and the
> >> >> >> homosexuals,
> >> >> >> I don't think I will ever willingly go to San Francisco in my
> >> >> >> life.
> >> >> > 
> >> >> > I don't mean those kinds of things... besides, 50 years ago SF
> >> >> > wasn't dirty like it currently is.
> >> >> 
> >> >> Exactly. Then, in the 1970s, the hippy population allowed the
> >> >> homosexuals to take over and you've got yourself an
> >> >> excrement-covered,
> >> >> hobo-populated liberal paradise.
> >> > 
> >> > LOL! No, dude.
> >> > 
> >> > Steve Jobs came after the first incarnation of hippies, he was only
> >> > 12 during the 'Summer of Love'. He probably looked at that in a
> >> > similar way that I did (I was 9).
> >> > Our older brothers/sisters, friends, etc. were lashing out then, many
> >> > who came after them didn't lash out, at least, not in the same ways.
> >> > They could see that there was a new path which wasn't as rigid and
> >> > corporate as that of our parents; it was being led by hippies who
> >> > still wanted to eat decently and have a roof over their heads (fair
> >> > weather hippies, so to speak).
> >> 
> >> Conservatives also believe that people should eat decently and have a
> >> roof over their heads. The difference is that they believe that the
> >> individual needs a job and money to purchase both and that the state
> >> shouldn't be responsible for handing it over at the taxpayer's expense.
> >>  
> >> >> > But I'm not even talking about SF, the city,
> >> >> > I'm referring to the areas south of the city:
> >> >> > 
> >> >> > <https://imgur.com/a/LEpqHDB>
> >> >> 
> >> >> How liberal are those areas? Any answer other than "not at all"
> >> >> makes me unwilling to visit it.
> >> > 
> >> > It's probably mostly comprised of what I call 'conditional liberals'
> >> > ;)
> >> 
> >> I'm already annoyed that my province is mostly left-leaning, feminist
> >> and that any semblance of conservatism only appears in the big city so
> >> you can imagine how tempted I would be to go to an area which features
> >> little more than what I'm already accustomed to with a
> >> excrement-covered homosexual dressing on top. If I visit any place in
> >> the United States, it'll be a bastion of Americana like Texas or
> >> something.
> > 
> > Well, I wouldn't live there anymore... but I'm talking about Jobs during
> > a certain time period in the area shown on that map (which isn't very
> > big)
> > and how it helped to shape him into what he became known for. Had he
> > been in some other area he would have had a *very* different outcome.
> 
> Yeah, someone would probably have kicked his ass for being such an asshole 
> and he'd have died a few years ago known only as the manager of Denny's.
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> SilverSlimer
> FSF Contributor / EFF Member / Free speech advocate
> Absolute centrist, proud Catholic



GNU is based on Linux. No debate. Frankly I do not really give a shit. 

LXDE is definitely my second favorite DE and the only one I advocate to Linux converts. Primary interface is GNOME, though. A tiling window manager is all you need after you get used to it. Dropping support for DOS programs is long overdue. What it looks like can be skinned and is no big deal, especially if it's support is good. 

Just look at Jonas Eklundh Communication's programs and look at Klaus Schadenfreude's, there is nothing for Klaus Schadenfreude to learn from a mindless moron like Jonas Eklundh Communication. But so be it, let him keep making an imbecile of himself. Just mindless trolling. And I am giving attention to that trolling. THAT is what the "Jonas Eklundh Communication circus" is. 

-- 
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http://www.5z8.info/hack-outlook_c6c9in_michaelangelo-virus
http://www.5z8.info/mercenary_w5v9dl_open.exe
http://www.5z8.info/nic_cage_naked_y8b5qk_torrentEverything
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