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| Started by | Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> |
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| First post | 2018-09-02 06:43 +0000 |
| Last post | 2018-09-04 07:21 -0700 |
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Kernel 4.19 Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2018-09-02 06:43 +0000
Re: Kernel 4.19 Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-02 00:01 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-02 07:33 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-02 02:53 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> - 2018-09-02 12:34 +0000
Re: Kernel 4.19 Nobody you know <nobody@nowhere.com> - 2018-09-02 10:36 -0400
Re: Kernel 4.19 Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-02 07:49 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-02 13:31 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2018-09-02 19:23 +0000
Re: Kernel 4.19 Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-02 12:44 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-09-02 13:50 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2018-09-02 21:13 +0000
Re: Kernel 4.19 Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-02 14:33 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2018-09-02 21:52 +0000
Re: Kernel 4.19 Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2018-09-02 21:58 +0000
Re: Kernel 4.19 Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-09-02 15:33 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2018-09-02 22:41 +0000
Re: Kernel 4.19 Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2018-09-02 19:07 -0400
Re: Kernel 4.19 Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-02 19:29 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-04 07:33 -0500
Re: Kernel 4.19 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-04 06:37 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-04 06:40 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 William Barnes <idonthvanemaildou@mail.com> - 2018-09-04 10:05 -0400
Re: Kernel 4.19 chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-04 09:14 -0500
Re: Kernel 4.19 SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-04 15:58 +0000
Re: Kernel 4.19 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-04 11:48 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 William Barnes <idonthvanemaildou@mail.com> - 2018-09-04 18:59 -0400
Re: Kernel 4.19 Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-04 16:21 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-09-04 23:49 +0000
Re: Kernel 4.19 Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-04 17:08 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-04 17:24 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-04 17:54 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 William Barnes <idonthvanemaildou@mail.com> - 2018-09-04 22:26 -0400
Re: Kernel 4.19 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-04 21:39 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-04 22:03 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-05 07:03 -0500
Re: Kernel 4.19 chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-05 07:09 -0500
Re: Kernel 4.19 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-05 07:36 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-05 07:55 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-05 16:47 +0000
crApple products chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-05 12:15 -0500
Re: crApple products SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-06 01:03 +0000
Re: crApple products Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-05 18:20 -0700
Re: crApple products Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-06 07:17 -0700
Re: crApple products chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-06 09:47 -0500
Re: crApple products Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-06 08:06 -0700
Re: crApple products Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-06 14:36 -0700
Re: crApple products Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-06 14:51 -0700
Re: crApple products Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-05 21:30 -0700
Re: crApple products DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-09-06 12:44 -0400
Re: crApple products Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-06 11:28 -0700
Re: crApple products Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-06 14:35 -0700
Re: crApple products RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-09-06 23:57 +0000
Re: crApple products SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-07 00:17 +0000
Re: crApple products William Barnes <idonthvanemaildou@mail.com> - 2018-09-06 21:25 -0400
Re: crApple products RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-09-07 03:51 +0000
Re: crApple products Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-06 22:00 -0700
Re: crApple products SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-07 20:44 +0000
Re: crApple products RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-09-07 23:15 +0000
Re: crApple products SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-07 23:34 +0000
Re: crApple products William Barnes <idonthvanemaildou@mail.com> - 2018-09-07 19:42 -0400
Re: crApple products Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-08 09:11 -0700
Re: crApple products Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-07 18:43 -0700
Re: crApple products SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-07 20:40 +0000
Re: crApple products William Barnes <idonthvanemaildou@mail.com> - 2018-09-07 17:53 -0400
Re: crApple products RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-09-07 23:12 +0000
Re: crApple products William Barnes <idonthvanemaildou@mail.com> - 2018-09-07 19:20 -0400
Re: crApple products Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-08 09:22 -0700
Re: crApple products RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-09-08 21:21 +0000
Re: crApple products SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-08 21:39 +0000
Re: crApple products Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-08 14:56 -0700
Re: crApple products Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-08 23:55 -0700
Re: crApple products Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-09-09 09:12 -0700
Re: crApple products Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-09 09:32 -0700
Re: crApple products "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> - 2018-09-09 21:37 +0000
Re: crApple products Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-09-09 14:47 -0700
Re: crApple products "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> - 2018-09-09 22:12 +0000
Re: crApple products Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-09-09 15:29 -0700
Re: crApple products Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-09 15:47 -0700
Re: crApple products "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> - 2018-09-09 22:48 +0000
Re: crApple products Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-09-09 15:57 -0700
Re: crApple products "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> - 2018-09-09 23:26 +0000
Re: crApple products Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-09 16:00 -0700
Re: crApple products Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-09 16:50 -0700
Re: crApple products Lenny Dignman <dingmansferryboat3@dingman.org> - 2018-09-09 19:43 -0400
Re: crApple products Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-09 17:05 -0700
"Gain" is the _ input volume. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-09-09 18:57 -0700
Re: "Gain" is the _ input volume. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-09 19:26 -0700
Re: crApple products Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-08 14:53 -0700
Re: crApple products Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-08 15:04 -0700
Re: crApple products Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-08 15:19 -0700
Re: crApple products SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-07 23:28 +0000
Re: crApple products William Barnes <idonthvanemaildou@mail.com> - 2018-09-07 19:39 -0400
Re: crApple products SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-08 14:06 +0000
Re: crApple products Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-08 09:39 -0700
Re: crApple products Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-08 09:29 -0700
Re: crApple products Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-08 09:10 -0700
Re: crApple products Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-07 18:42 -0700
Re: crApple products Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-06 21:52 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-05 10:15 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-05 21:29 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-04 21:47 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-05 16:44 +0000
Re: Kernel 4.19 Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-05 09:59 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 William Barnes <idonthvanemaildou@mail.com> - 2018-09-05 13:34 -0400
Re: Kernel 4.19 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-05 21:31 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 William Barnes <idonthvanemaildou@mail.com> - 2018-09-06 08:13 -0400
Re: Kernel 4.19 SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-06 12:42 +0000
Re: Kernel 4.19 Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-06 06:00 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 William Barnes <idonthvanemaildou@mail.com> - 2018-09-06 09:06 -0400
Re: Kernel 4.19 Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-06 06:33 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-06 07:30 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 William Poaster <noemail@lutenorg.com> - 2018-09-06 23:23 +0000
Re: Kernel 4.19 SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-06 23:48 +0000
Re: Kernel 4.19 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-06 21:51 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-06 21:50 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-06 07:26 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-06 07:51 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2018-09-06 22:39 +0200
Re: Kernel 4.19 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-06 13:54 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-06 14:05 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 William Barnes <idonthvanemaildou@mail.com> - 2018-09-06 18:26 -0400
Re: Kernel 4.19 Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-06 15:53 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-06 23:26 +0000
Re: Kernel 4.19 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-06 21:50 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 William Poaster <noemail@lutenorg.com> - 2018-09-06 23:29 +0000
Re: Kernel 4.19 William Barnes <idonthvanemaildou@mail.com> - 2018-09-06 19:39 -0400
Re: Kernel 4.19 William Poaster <noemail@lutenorg.com> - 2018-09-06 23:47 +0000
Re: Kernel 4.19 Lenny Dignman <dingmansferryboat3@dingman.org> - 2018-09-06 19:50 -0400
Re: Kernel 4.19 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-06 21:52 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-06 17:26 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-06 23:48 +0000
Re: Kernel 4.19 Lenny Dignman <dingmansferryboat3@dingman.org> - 2018-09-06 19:53 -0400
Re: Kernel 4.19 Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-06 17:10 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-06 21:51 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-06 21:51 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-06 07:22 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-05 21:29 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-04 16:54 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-04 11:25 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-04 11:54 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-09-04 23:46 +0000
Re: Kernel 4.19 DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-09-07 10:58 -0400
Re: Kernel 4.19 fr314159@gmail.com - 2018-09-07 09:16 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-07 20:50 +0000
Re: Kernel 4.19 RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-09-07 23:16 +0000
Re: Kernel 4.19 SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-07 23:35 +0000
Re: Kernel 4.19 William Barnes <idonthvanemaildou@mail.com> - 2018-09-07 19:44 -0400
Re: Kernel 4.19 SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-08 14:07 +0000
Re: Kernel 4.19 Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2018-09-08 14:14 +0000
Re: Kernel 4.19 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-08 10:06 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-08 09:39 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-10 07:25 -0500
Re: Kernel 4.19 Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-10 05:53 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-10 06:37 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-10 15:45 +0000
Re: Kernel 4.19 chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-10 11:05 -0500
Re: Kernel 4.19 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-10 12:46 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-10 23:25 +0000
Re: Kernel 4.19 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-10 12:23 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-08 09:32 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> - 2018-09-02 22:48 +0000
Re: Kernel 4.19 Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2018-09-02 22:57 +0000
Re: Kernel 4.19 Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-09-02 16:27 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-02 15:20 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2018-09-02 19:06 -0400
Re: Kernel 4.19 Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-02 17:56 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-02 14:17 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2018-09-02 19:05 -0400
Frankly, I don't notice [any] difference [in the Kernel] Simon bar Sinister <john.h.gohde@gmail.com> - 2018-09-04 07:21 -0700
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| From | chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2018-09-05 12:15 -0500 |
| Subject | crApple products |
| Message-ID | <j330pdtrmj467t7dostor1qlrearpdfera@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #465956 |
SilverSlimer wrote: >Soldered-on memory should have died with the 1980s. It's very sad that >the Communists at Apple still think that the inability to upgrade or >remove faulty memory in exchange for a thinner design is a great deal. It's classic Apple "form over function" design. They are facing a class-action lawsuit over the keyboards on the 2016-now model of Macbook Pro. They slightest bit of dust can stop a key from working, and they are completely unserviceable - the entire keyboard, and a bunch of stuff attached to the bottom of it, must be replaced. A $700 repair, because of Apple's poor design, and the replacement you get has the same design problem! Well, they saved a half a millimeter, over a more-robust keyboard design, so it's all "worth it". That's what professionals who spend thousands of dollars on a laptop "want", apparently. >Thunderbolt is a fantastic format that nobody other than Apple is >interested in supporting... No, it's a nice feature on a high-end laptop. Of course, Apple again gets it wrong, by making their latest Macbook Pro Thunderbolt-only. *No* USB ports! Now, that is just horseshit design. -- "Your claim is disproven by your repeated posts that were highly critical about the lack of USB on the iPad." - lying asshole "-hh", lying shamelessly
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| From | SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2018-09-06 01:03 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: crApple products |
| Message-ID | <V1%jD.7375$ZJ2.1994@fx33.iad> |
| In reply to | #465959 |
On Wed, 05 Sep 2018 12:15:14 -0500, chrisv wrote: > SilverSlimer wrote: > >>Soldered-on memory should have died with the 1980s. It's very sad that >>the Communists at Apple still think that the inability to upgrade or >>remove faulty memory in exchange for a thinner design is a great deal. > > It's classic Apple "form over function" design. We can thank overrated "genius" Steve Jobs for that. > They are facing a > class-action lawsuit over the keyboards on the 2016-now model of Macbook > Pro. They slightest bit of dust can stop a key from working, and they > are completely unserviceable - the entire keyboard, and a bunch of stuff > attached to the bottom of it, must be replaced. Truly pathetic on a device which costs way more than something comparable from the PC side. I might be in the minority, but I want my laptop to have utility (Blu-Ray, responsive keyboard, good GPU, large screen) way more than beauty. > A $700 repair, because of Apple's poor design, and the replacement you > get has the same design problem! $700 because of a keyboard? Was it built by God Himself? Geez Apple sucks. > Well, they saved a half a millimeter, over a more-robust keyboard > design, so it's all "worth it". That's what professionals who spend > thousands of dollars on a laptop "want", apparently. As we all know, pretty computers help a man/woman to pick up people of the opposite gender. That's why, when these people go to coffee shops with their tuque and scarf on and unveil their latest Apple machine, they are immediately propositioned... they definitely _don't_ stay within the coffee shops, on their free wifi, browsing their Facebook feeds and increasing their self-loathing and misery for hours at a time. >>Thunderbolt is a fantastic format that nobody other than Apple is >>interested in supporting... > > No, it's a nice feature on a high-end laptop. Of course, Apple again > gets it wrong, by making their latest Macbook Pro Thunderbolt-only. *No* > USB ports! Now, that is just horseshit design. Actually, Apple believes in being customer-friendliness and will happily sell you adapters to turn that Thunderbolt port into a VGA or USB one for $30 a pop. That's so much better than just having a USB port built in! -- SilverSlimer FSF Contributor / EFF Member / Free speech advocate Absolute centrist, proud Catholic
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| From | Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2018-09-05 18:20 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: crApple products |
| Message-ID | <5f9246cc-095c-4725-ae9b-fdbc020e46c4@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #466006 |
On Wednesday, September 5, 2018 at 6:03:52 PM UTC-7, SilverSlimer wrote: > On Wed, 05 Sep 2018 12:15:14 -0500, chrisv wrote: > > > SilverSlimer wrote: > > > >>Soldered-on memory should have died with the 1980s. It's very sad that > >>the Communists at Apple still think that the inability to upgrade or > >>remove faulty memory in exchange for a thinner design is a great deal. > > > > It's classic Apple "form over function" design. > > We can thank overrated "genius" Steve Jobs for that. > > > They are facing a > > class-action lawsuit over the keyboards on the 2016-now model of Macbook > > Pro. They slightest bit of dust can stop a key from working, and they > > are completely unserviceable - the entire keyboard, and a bunch of stuff > > attached to the bottom of it, must be replaced. > > Truly pathetic on a device which costs way more than something comparable > from the PC side. I might be in the minority, but I want my laptop to > have utility (Blu-Ray, responsive keyboard, good GPU, large screen) way > more than beauty. > > > A $700 repair, because of Apple's poor design, and the replacement you > > get has the same design problem! > > $700 because of a keyboard? Was it built by God Himself? Geez Apple sucks. > > > Well, they saved a half a millimeter, over a more-robust keyboard > > design, so it's all "worth it". That's what professionals who spend > > thousands of dollars on a laptop "want", apparently. > > As we all know, pretty computers help a man/woman to pick up people of > the opposite gender. That's why, when these people go to coffee shops > with their tuque and scarf on and unveil their latest Apple machine, they > are immediately propositioned... they definitely _don't_ stay within the > coffee shops, on their free wifi, browsing their Facebook feeds and > increasing their self-loathing and misery for hours at a time. > > >>Thunderbolt is a fantastic format that nobody other than Apple is > >>interested in supporting... > > > > No, it's a nice feature on a high-end laptop. Of course, Apple again > > gets it wrong, by making their latest Macbook Pro Thunderbolt-only. *No* > > USB ports! Now, that is just horseshit design. > > Actually, Apple believes in being customer-friendliness and will happily > sell you adapters to turn that Thunderbolt port into a VGA or USB one for > $30 a pop. That's so much better than just having a USB port built in! > > -- > SilverSlimer > FSF Contributor / EFF Member / Free speech advocate > Absolute centrist, proud Catholic Enough already. You're again trying to push your ego when you have no skill. You're the court jester and your many incoherent scripts show this. But the Script-Troller feels the need to please the cult-like herd of convenient friends. So be it. Of course, the only concern that concerns the Script-Troller is appearing "the winner", and if he can not have that he will post more evidence to actively slap truly honest people down, which is idiotic as hell. I remain unconvinced that these posts are unequivocally scripted. It's a prank call. the Script-Troller has already decided what he is going to say before he calls. What you say just a reaction. What Klaus Schadenfreude says just a reaction. Perhaps you use it wrong. Do you not comprehend the use of VPN? -- Eight things to never feed your dog!! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ZNxaaKD7-c https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OffkiSAsYo8 Jonas Eklundh
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| From | Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
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| Date | 2018-09-06 07:17 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: crApple products |
| Message-ID | <fvcr8fF30mfU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #466006 |
On 9/5/18 6:03 PM, SilverSlimer wrote: > On Wed, 05 Sep 2018 12:15:14 -0500, chrisv wrote: > >> SilverSlimer wrote: >> >>> Soldered-on memory should have died with the 1980s. It's very sad that >>> the Communists at Apple still think that the inability to upgrade or >>> remove faulty memory in exchange for a thinner design is a great deal. >> >> It's classic Apple "form over function" design. > > We can thank overrated "genius" Steve Jobs for that. I know, he was only influential in what we now see as the modern desktop, laptop, cell phone, tablet, smart watch, the Internet, and more. No sign of vision there! As noted, he (and Apple in general) have made MANY mistakes. That happens when you are taking risks and pushing technology. That happens when you are experimenting with UI principles and hardware design. If they -- or anyone -- never makes any mistakes they are playing things too safe. >> They are facing a >> class-action lawsuit over the keyboards on the 2016-now model of Macbook >> Pro. They slightest bit of dust can stop a key from working, and they >> are completely unserviceable - the entire keyboard, and a bunch of stuff >> attached to the bottom of it, must be replaced. > > Truly pathetic on a device which costs way more than something comparable > from the PC side. I might be in the minority, but I want my laptop to > have utility (Blu-Ray, responsive keyboard, good GPU, large screen) way > more than beauty. > >> A $700 repair, because of Apple's poor design, and the replacement you >> get has the same design problem! > > $700 because of a keyboard? Was it built by God Himself? Geez Apple sucks. > >> Well, they saved a half a millimeter, over a more-robust keyboard >> design, so it's all "worth it". That's what professionals who spend >> thousands of dollars on a laptop "want", apparently. > > As we all know, pretty computers help a man/woman to pick up people of > the opposite gender. That's why, when these people go to coffee shops > with their tuque and scarf on and unveil their latest Apple machine, they > are immediately propositioned... they definitely _don't_ stay within the > coffee shops, on their free wifi, browsing their Facebook feeds and > increasing their self-loathing and misery for hours at a time. Where do you get such bizarre ideas from? >>> Thunderbolt is a fantastic format that nobody other than Apple is >>> interested in supporting... >> >> No, it's a nice feature on a high-end laptop. Of course, Apple again >> gets it wrong, by making their latest Macbook Pro Thunderbolt-only. *No* >> USB ports! Now, that is just horseshit design. > > Actually, Apple believes in being customer-friendliness and will happily > sell you adapters to turn that Thunderbolt port into a VGA or USB one for > $30 a pop. That's so much better than just having a USB port built in! > -- Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow superior by attacking the messenger. They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again. <https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>
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| From | chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2018-09-06 09:47 -0500 |
| Subject | Re: crApple products |
| Message-ID | <sce2pdps303enboefhj5ivm9ch3epdnqf9@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #466006 |
SilverSlimer wrote: > chrisv wrote: >> >> They are facing a >> class-action lawsuit over the keyboards on the 2016-now model of Macbook >> Pro. They slightest bit of dust can stop a key from working, and they >> are completely unserviceable - the entire keyboard, and a bunch of stuff >> attached to the bottom of it, must be replaced. > >Truly pathetic on a device which costs way more than something comparable >from the PC side. > >> A $700 repair, because of Apple's poor design, and the replacement you >> get has the same design problem! > >$700 because of a keyboard? Was it built by God Himself? Geez Apple sucks. It's fscking ridiculous, but serviceability and upgradability are clearly not important, to crApple. I might forgive that, in less-expensive consumer-level products, but I can't, in expensive "pro" products. A Macbook Pro can easily cost $4,000! >> Of course, Apple again >> gets it wrong, by making their latest Macbook Pro Thunderbolt-only. *No* >> USB ports! Now, that is just horseshit design. > >Actually, Apple believes in being customer-friendliness and will happily >sell you adapters to turn that Thunderbolt port into a VGA or USB one for >$30 a pop. That's so much better than just having a USB port built in! Well, of course it is! -- 'Sure, Chrisv might have been THINKING "success", but the archives show the "DOOM, DOOM, DOOM" refrain being what was posted.' - lying asshole "-hh", lying shamelessly
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| From | Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-09-06 08:06 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: crApple products |
| Message-ID | <4957761f-97fa-47b3-a5a3-7e3b474cb536@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #466076 |
On Thursday, September 6, 2018 at 7:47:04 AM UTC-7, chrisv wrote: > SilverSlimer wrote: > > > chrisv wrote: > >> > >> They are facing a > >> class-action lawsuit over the keyboards on the 2016-now model of Macbook > >> Pro. They slightest bit of dust can stop a key from working, and they > >> are completely unserviceable - the entire keyboard, and a bunch of stuff > >> attached to the bottom of it, must be replaced. > > > >Truly pathetic on a device which costs way more than something comparable > >from the PC side. > > > >> A $700 repair, because of Apple's poor design, and the replacement you > >> get has the same design problem! > > > >$700 because of a keyboard? Was it built by God Himself? Geez Apple sucks. > > It's fscking ridiculous, but serviceability and upgradability are > clearly not important, to crApple. > > I might forgive that, in less-expensive consumer-level products, but I > can't, in expensive "pro" products. A Macbook Pro can easily cost > $4,000! > > >> Of course, Apple again > >> gets it wrong, by making their latest Macbook Pro Thunderbolt-only. *No* > >> USB ports! Now, that is just horseshit design. > > > >Actually, Apple believes in being customer-friendliness and will happily > >sell you adapters to turn that Thunderbolt port into a VGA or USB one for > >$30 a pop. That's so much better than just having a USB port built in! > > Well, of course it is! > > -- > 'Sure, Chrisv might have been THINKING "success", but the archives > show the "DOOM, DOOM, DOOM" refrain being what was posted.' - lying > asshole "-hh", lying shamelessly Yup. Unfortunately this is what we have to put up with. Psychopaths who have no reason for being here other than to troll. Klaus 'The Moron' Schadenfreude is just thrilled that Sandman is on the other end. Imagine if Klaus 'The Moron' Schadenfreude walked up to a wall and delivered the punch line. It wouldn't be amusing in any way. When I first posted, I wanted to be equitable and open minded. I gave Klaus 'The Moron' Schadenfreude more than a reasonable person generally would. The pathological liar does it every time. Then the torrent begins. Because the mama's boy just has to run to other groups. It was Klaus 'The Moron' Schadenfreude who stated that he and his college buddies used to forge people all the time and it was arousing. What I do is certainly better. I have a GNU/Linux system I use as well, but it's better than yours. -- E-commerce Simplified http://www.5z8.info/trojan_p4g1zy_how-to-skin-a-gerbil http://www.5z8.info/backyard-fireworks-disasters_t7w7pu_bombbuilding Jonas Eklundh Communication
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| From | Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
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| Date | 2018-09-06 14:36 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: crApple products |
| Message-ID | <fvdkvnF8bubU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #466076 |
On 9/6/18 7:47 AM, chrisv wrote: > SilverSlimer wrote: > >> chrisv wrote: >>> >>> They are facing a >>> class-action lawsuit over the keyboards on the 2016-now model of Macbook >>> Pro. They slightest bit of dust can stop a key from working, and they >>> are completely unserviceable - the entire keyboard, and a bunch of stuff >>> attached to the bottom of it, must be replaced. >> >> Truly pathetic on a device which costs way more than something comparable >>from the PC side. >> >>> A $700 repair, because of Apple's poor design, and the replacement you >>> get has the same design problem! >> >> $700 because of a keyboard? Was it built by God Himself? Geez Apple sucks. > > It's fscking ridiculous, but serviceability and upgradability are > clearly not important, to crApple. What they focus on is serving the needs of most users. Most users do not care about such things... most computers are never updated. BUT, there are a significant number who do, and that is a weakness of Apple's hardware. > I might forgive that, in less-expensive consumer-level products, but I > can't, in expensive "pro" products. A Macbook Pro can easily cost > $4,000! And while I would like to see them update their hardware, for many it is still appealing. It is not JUST the hardware they are buying, of course. And there are many pros upset with them for NOT updating their hardware... I think with good reason. >>> Of course, Apple again >>> gets it wrong, by making their latest Macbook Pro Thunderbolt-only. *No* >>> USB ports! Now, that is just horseshit design. >> >> Actually, Apple believes in being customer-friendliness and will happily >> sell you adapters to turn that Thunderbolt port into a VGA or USB one for >> $30 a pop. That's so much better than just having a USB port built in! > > Well, of course it is! Choice is good. Apple sells systems with a lot of benefits... and also with down sides. Use what you like. -- Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow superior by attacking the messenger. They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again. <https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>
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| From | Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-09-06 14:51 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: crApple products |
| Message-ID | <7bfdb8b1-8890-439f-a980-c72f9f96c32b@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #466125 |
On Thursday, September 6, 2018 at 2:36:58 PM UTC-7, Snit wrote: > On 9/6/18 7:47 AM, chrisv wrote: > > SilverSlimer wrote: > > > >> chrisv wrote: > >>> > >>> They are facing a > >>> class-action lawsuit over the keyboards on the 2016-now model of Macbook > >>> Pro. They slightest bit of dust can stop a key from working, and they > >>> are completely unserviceable - the entire keyboard, and a bunch of stuff > >>> attached to the bottom of it, must be replaced. > >> > >> Truly pathetic on a device which costs way more than something comparable > >>from the PC side. > >> > >>> A $700 repair, because of Apple's poor design, and the replacement you > >>> get has the same design problem! > >> > >> $700 because of a keyboard? Was it built by God Himself? Geez Apple sucks. > > > > It's fscking ridiculous, but serviceability and upgradability are > > clearly not important, to crApple. > > What they focus on is serving the needs of most users. Most users do not > care about such things... most computers are never updated. BUT, there > are a significant number who do, and that is a weakness of Apple's > hardware. > > > I might forgive that, in less-expensive consumer-level products, but I > > can't, in expensive "pro" products. A Macbook Pro can easily cost > > $4,000! > > And while I would like to see them update their hardware, for many it is > still appealing. It is not JUST the hardware they are buying, of course. > > And there are many pros upset with them for NOT updating their > hardware... I think with good reason. > > >>> Of course, Apple again > >>> gets it wrong, by making their latest Macbook Pro Thunderbolt-only. *No* > >>> USB ports! Now, that is just horseshit design. > >> > >> Actually, Apple believes in being customer-friendliness and will happily > >> sell you adapters to turn that Thunderbolt port into a VGA or USB one for > >> $30 a pop. That's so much better than just having a USB port built in! > > > > Well, of course it is! > > Choice is good. Apple sells systems with a lot of benefits... and also > with down sides. Use what you like. > > > -- > Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They > cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel > somehow superior by attacking the messenger. > > They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again. > > <https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308> So he changed his story to Jonas Eklundh responding to any sock of his. Any dreadfully obsessive druggie could easily do the same. What were you doing? I reported him years ago. As expected, it did squat to attenuate the imbecile. -- This Trick Gets Women Hot For You!! http://tinyurl.com/proof-about-ebot http://www.5z8.info/stalin-will-rise-again_j3h5uj_nakedgrandmas.jpg Jonas Eklundh Communication AB
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| From | Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
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| Date | 2018-09-05 21:30 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: crApple products |
| Message-ID | <fvbos2FqpscU5@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #465959 |
On 9/5/18 10:15 AM, chrisv wrote: > SilverSlimer wrote: > >> Soldered-on memory should have died with the 1980s. It's very sad that >> the Communists at Apple still think that the inability to upgrade or >> remove faulty memory in exchange for a thinner design is a great deal. > > It's classic Apple "form over function" design. They are facing a > class-action lawsuit over the keyboards on the 2016-now model of > Macbook Pro. They slightest bit of dust can stop a key from working, > and they are completely unserviceable - the entire keyboard, and a > bunch of stuff attached to the bottom of it, must be replaced. > > A $700 repair, because of Apple's poor design, and the replacement you > get has the same design problem! > > Well, they saved a half a millimeter, over a more-robust keyboard > design, so it's all "worth it". That's what professionals who spend > thousands of dollars on a laptop "want", apparently. > >> Thunderbolt is a fantastic format that nobody other than Apple is >> interested in supporting... > > No, it's a nice feature on a high-end laptop. Of course, Apple again > gets it wrong, by making their latest Macbook Pro Thunderbolt-only. > *No* USB ports! Now, that is just horseshit design. > Interesting how you guys attack their hardware in an OS-focused group. But, yeah, they have some bad -- and some good -- hardware decisions with their devices. -- Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow superior by attacking the messenger. They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again. <https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>
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| From | DFS <nospam@nospam.com> |
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| Date | 2018-09-06 12:44 -0400 |
| Subject | Re: crApple products |
| Message-ID | <dTckD.29800$3L2.1603@fx44.iad> |
| In reply to | #465959 |
On Wed, 05 Sep 2018 12:15:14 -0500, chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote: > It's classic Apple "form over function" design. They are facing a > class-action lawsuit over the keyboards on the 2016-now model of > Macbook Pro. They slightest bit of dust can stop a key from working, > and they are completely unserviceable - the entire keyboard, and a > bunch of stuff attached to the bottom of it, must be replaced. > > A $700 repair, because of Apple's poor design, and the replacement you > get has the same design problem! > > Well, they saved a half a millimeter, over a more-robust keyboard > design, so it's all "worth it". That's what professionals who spend > thousands of dollars on a laptop "want", apparently. My $15 MS Comfort Curve 2000 cheapie keyboard is still going strong, year after year (I think 4 years now). Turn it over and shake it and all kinds of stuff comes out: dog hair, half-eaten sandwiches, fingernails…
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| From | Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2018-09-06 11:28 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: crApple products |
| Message-ID | <3420557a-caab-4fbb-a21f-b751135adf9f@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #466089 |
On Thursday, September 6, 2018 at 9:48:11 AM UTC-7, DFS wrote:
> On Wed, 05 Sep 2018 12:15:14 -0500, chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>
>
> > It's classic Apple "form over function" design. They are facing a
> > class-action lawsuit over the keyboards on the 2016-now model of
> > Macbook Pro. They slightest bit of dust can stop a key from working,
> > and they are completely unserviceable - the entire keyboard, and a
> > bunch of stuff attached to the bottom of it, must be replaced.
> >
> > A $700 repair, because of Apple's poor design, and the replacement you
> > get has the same design problem!
> >
> > Well, they saved a half a millimeter, over a more-robust keyboard
> > design, so it's all "worth it". That's what professionals who spend
> > thousands of dollars on a laptop "want", apparently.
>
>
> My $15 MS Comfort Curve 2000 cheapie keyboard is still going strong, year after year (I think 4 years now). Turn it over and shake it and all kinds of stuff comes out: dog hair, half-eaten sandwiches, fingernails…
Steve "Steven Petruzzellis" Carroll's obsession with Klaus 'Super Troll' Schadenfreude started in 2004 when Carroll got mad about his then girlfriend obsessing over Klaus 'Super Troll' Schadenfreude (heavily documented here: <http://tinyurl.com/proof-about-ebot>). Klaus 'Super Troll' Schadenfreude continued to respond to Steve for about 5 years, when Steve flipped out in 2009 and started contacting Klaus 'Super Troll' Schadenfreude's employer with the stated goal to have him fired (he spoke of doing so even if he had to twist arms):
<http://goo.gl/OHNryA>
<http://goo.gl/MZ6yCD>
<http://goo.gl/WaKKGq>
There were more, but Carroll has had them deleted from the Google archive. I have not spent the time to find them elsewhere (and likely will not).
With that Klaus 'Super Troll' Schadenfreude stopped responding directly to Steve except for *one* chance he gave him in 2011 when Steve was accusing *Klaus 'Super Troll' Schadenfreude* of running: <http://goo.gl/racU64>.
Carroll, as predicted, ran (he always does when faced with facts):
<http://goo.gl/qHs5Xh>
Steven Petruzzellis knows he has no backing for any of his nonsense and has become, if anything, more and more obsessive since Klaus 'Super Troll' Schadenfreude stopped responding to him.
Steve "Steven Petruzzellis" Carroll is truly a very, very sick man.
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| From | Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2018-09-06 14:35 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: crApple products |
| Message-ID | <5c964a40-7d0a-4140-85d4-80ea60f8d1d8@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #466089 |
On Thursday, September 6, 2018 at 9:48:11 AM UTC-7, DFS wrote:
> On Wed, 05 Sep 2018 12:15:14 -0500, chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>
>
> > It's classic Apple "form over function" design. They are facing a
> > class-action lawsuit over the keyboards on the 2016-now model of
> > Macbook Pro. They slightest bit of dust can stop a key from working,
> > and they are completely unserviceable - the entire keyboard, and a
> > bunch of stuff attached to the bottom of it, must be replaced.
> >
> > A $700 repair, because of Apple's poor design, and the replacement you
> > get has the same design problem!
> >
> > Well, they saved a half a millimeter, over a more-robust keyboard
> > design, so it's all "worth it". That's what professionals who spend
> > thousands of dollars on a laptop "want", apparently.
>
>
> My $15 MS Comfort Curve 2000 cheapie keyboard is still going strong, year after year (I think 4 years now). Turn it over and shake it and all kinds of stuff comes out: dog hair, half-eaten sandwiches, fingernails…
Just some names Steve Carroll has used
"Evil" John *
"Evil" Snit *
Big Crotch on a Small Fish
Cornelius Munshower
CSMA Moderator
Edward Stanfield
Fretwiz *
Hitman Hero
Measles
Petruzzellis Kids
Sigmond
Slaveen
Smit
Steve C *
Steve Camoll *
Steve Carroll <noone@xxxxxxxxxxx> *
Steve Carroll <stevecarroll@xxxxxxxxxxx> *
Steve Carroll <trollkiller@xxxxxx> *
Steve Carroll's Dog *
Steve Carrolll *
Steve Carrroll *
Yevette Owens
Yobo_Obyo
You _do_ realize that the massive floods ending up in multiple groups started out in COLA, right?
Oh goodness, that is just tons of rot. How is Firefox on Linux doing anything above the lowest common denominator?
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| From | RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-09-06 23:57 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: crApple products |
| Message-ID | <pmsetr$7dr$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #465959 |
On 2018-09-05, chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote: > SilverSlimer wrote: > >>Soldered-on memory should have died with the 1980s. It's very sad that >>the Communists at Apple still think that the inability to upgrade or >>remove faulty memory in exchange for a thinner design is a great deal. > > It's classic Apple "form over function" design. They are facing a > class-action lawsuit over the keyboards on the 2016-now model of > Macbook Pro. They slightest bit of dust can stop a key from working, > and they are completely unserviceable - the entire keyboard, and a > bunch of stuff attached to the bottom of it, must be replaced. > > A $700 repair, because of Apple's poor design, and the replacement you > get has the same design problem! > > Well, they saved a half a millimeter, over a more-robust keyboard > design, so it's all "worth it". That's what professionals who spend > thousands of dollars on a laptop "want", apparently. > >>Thunderbolt is a fantastic format that nobody other than Apple is >>interested in supporting... > > No, it's a nice feature on a high-end laptop. Of course, Apple again > gets it wrong, by making their latest Macbook Pro Thunderbolt-only. > *No* USB ports! Now, that is just horseshit design. I had no idea how pathetically designed these MacBook Pros were. What does this pile of crap sell for? -- The more I see of Windows, the more I like Linux.
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| From | SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> |
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| Date | 2018-09-07 00:17 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: crApple products |
| Message-ID | <7sjkD.4807$xI1.4353@fx13.iad> |
| In reply to | #466148 |
On Thu, 06 Sep 2018 23:57:48 +0000, RonB wrote: > On 2018-09-05, chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote: >> SilverSlimer wrote: >> >>>Soldered-on memory should have died with the 1980s. It's very sad that >>>the Communists at Apple still think that the inability to upgrade or >>>remove faulty memory in exchange for a thinner design is a great deal. >> >> It's classic Apple "form over function" design. They are facing a >> class-action lawsuit over the keyboards on the 2016-now model of >> Macbook Pro. They slightest bit of dust can stop a key from working, >> and they are completely unserviceable - the entire keyboard, and a >> bunch of stuff attached to the bottom of it, must be replaced. >> >> A $700 repair, because of Apple's poor design, and the replacement you >> get has the same design problem! >> >> Well, they saved a half a millimeter, over a more-robust keyboard >> design, so it's all "worth it". That's what professionals who spend >> thousands of dollars on a laptop "want", apparently. >> >>>Thunderbolt is a fantastic format that nobody other than Apple is >>>interested in supporting... >> >> No, it's a nice feature on a high-end laptop. Of course, Apple again >> gets it wrong, by making their latest Macbook Pro Thunderbolt-only. >> *No* USB ports! Now, that is just horseshit design. > > I had no idea how pathetically designed these MacBook Pros were. What > does this pile of crap sell for? A minimum of twice the price of a similarly-specced PC. -- SilverSlimer FSF Contributor / EFF Member / Free speech advocate Absolute centrist, proud Catholic
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| From | William Barnes <idonthvanemaildou@mail.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2018-09-06 21:25 -0400 |
| Subject | Re: crApple products |
| Message-ID | <fve2bsFartqU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #466151 |
On Fri, 07 Sep 2018 00:17:07 GMT, SilverSlimer wrote: > On Thu, 06 Sep 2018 23:57:48 +0000, RonB wrote: > >> On 2018-09-05, chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote: >>> SilverSlimer wrote: >>> >>>>Soldered-on memory should have died with the 1980s. It's very sad that >>>>the Communists at Apple still think that the inability to upgrade or >>>>remove faulty memory in exchange for a thinner design is a great deal. >>> >>> It's classic Apple "form over function" design. They are facing a >>> class-action lawsuit over the keyboards on the 2016-now model of >>> Macbook Pro. They slightest bit of dust can stop a key from working, >>> and they are completely unserviceable - the entire keyboard, and a >>> bunch of stuff attached to the bottom of it, must be replaced. >>> >>> A $700 repair, because of Apple's poor design, and the replacement you >>> get has the same design problem! >>> >>> Well, they saved a half a millimeter, over a more-robust keyboard >>> design, so it's all "worth it". That's what professionals who spend >>> thousands of dollars on a laptop "want", apparently. >>> >>>>Thunderbolt is a fantastic format that nobody other than Apple is >>>>interested in supporting... >>> >>> No, it's a nice feature on a high-end laptop. Of course, Apple again >>> gets it wrong, by making their latest Macbook Pro Thunderbolt-only. >>> *No* USB ports! Now, that is just horseshit design. >> >> I had no idea how pathetically designed these MacBook Pros were. What >> does this pile of crap sell for? > > A minimum of twice the price of a similarly-specced PC. Run a Hackintosh if you lust after a Mac desktop. https://www.tonymacx86.com/
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| From | RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-09-07 03:51 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: crApple products |
| Message-ID | <pmssjv$9kv$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #466158 |
On 2018-09-07, William Barnes <idonthvanemaildou@mail.com> wrote: > On Fri, 07 Sep 2018 00:17:07 GMT, SilverSlimer wrote: > >> On Thu, 06 Sep 2018 23:57:48 +0000, RonB wrote: >> >>> On 2018-09-05, chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote: >>>> SilverSlimer wrote: >>>> >>>>>Soldered-on memory should have died with the 1980s. It's very sad that >>>>>the Communists at Apple still think that the inability to upgrade or >>>>>remove faulty memory in exchange for a thinner design is a great deal. >>>> >>>> It's classic Apple "form over function" design. They are facing a >>>> class-action lawsuit over the keyboards on the 2016-now model of >>>> Macbook Pro. They slightest bit of dust can stop a key from working, >>>> and they are completely unserviceable - the entire keyboard, and a >>>> bunch of stuff attached to the bottom of it, must be replaced. >>>> >>>> A $700 repair, because of Apple's poor design, and the replacement you >>>> get has the same design problem! >>>> >>>> Well, they saved a half a millimeter, over a more-robust keyboard >>>> design, so it's all "worth it". That's what professionals who spend >>>> thousands of dollars on a laptop "want", apparently. >>>> >>>>>Thunderbolt is a fantastic format that nobody other than Apple is >>>>>interested in supporting... >>>> >>>> No, it's a nice feature on a high-end laptop. Of course, Apple again >>>> gets it wrong, by making their latest Macbook Pro Thunderbolt-only. >>>> *No* USB ports! Now, that is just horseshit design. >>> >>> I had no idea how pathetically designed these MacBook Pros were. What >>> does this pile of crap sell for? >> >> A minimum of twice the price of a similarly-specced PC. > > Run a Hackintosh if you lust after a Mac desktop. > https://www.tonymacx86.com/ Personally, zero interest in anything Apple. -- The more I see of Windows, the more I like Linux.
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| From | Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
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| Date | 2018-09-06 22:00 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: crApple products |
| Message-ID | <fveev8Fd5fpU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #466168 |
On 9/6/18 8:51 PM, RonB wrote: > On 2018-09-07, William Barnes <idonthvanemaildou@mail.com> wrote: >> On Fri, 07 Sep 2018 00:17:07 GMT, SilverSlimer wrote: >> >>> On Thu, 06 Sep 2018 23:57:48 +0000, RonB wrote: >>> >>>> On 2018-09-05, chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote: >>>>> SilverSlimer wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Soldered-on memory should have died with the 1980s. It's very sad that >>>>>> the Communists at Apple still think that the inability to upgrade or >>>>>> remove faulty memory in exchange for a thinner design is a great deal. >>>>> >>>>> It's classic Apple "form over function" design. They are facing a >>>>> class-action lawsuit over the keyboards on the 2016-now model of >>>>> Macbook Pro. They slightest bit of dust can stop a key from working, >>>>> and they are completely unserviceable - the entire keyboard, and a >>>>> bunch of stuff attached to the bottom of it, must be replaced. >>>>> >>>>> A $700 repair, because of Apple's poor design, and the replacement you >>>>> get has the same design problem! >>>>> >>>>> Well, they saved a half a millimeter, over a more-robust keyboard >>>>> design, so it's all "worth it". That's what professionals who spend >>>>> thousands of dollars on a laptop "want", apparently. >>>>> >>>>>> Thunderbolt is a fantastic format that nobody other than Apple is >>>>>> interested in supporting... >>>>> >>>>> No, it's a nice feature on a high-end laptop. Of course, Apple again >>>>> gets it wrong, by making their latest Macbook Pro Thunderbolt-only. >>>>> *No* USB ports! Now, that is just horseshit design. >>>> >>>> I had no idea how pathetically designed these MacBook Pros were. What >>>> does this pile of crap sell for? >>> >>> A minimum of twice the price of a similarly-specced PC. >> >> Run a Hackintosh if you lust after a Mac desktop. >> https://www.tonymacx86.com/ > > Personally, zero interest in anything Apple. > Clearly not true... you obsess over them. But use what you like. -- Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow superior by attacking the messenger. They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again. <https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>
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| From | SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> |
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| Date | 2018-09-07 20:44 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: crApple products |
| Message-ID | <1rBkD.5998$MJ2.2875@fx11.iad> |
| In reply to | #466168 |
On Fri, 07 Sep 2018 03:51:27 +0000, RonB wrote: > On 2018-09-07, William Barnes <idonthvanemaildou@mail.com> wrote: >> On Fri, 07 Sep 2018 00:17:07 GMT, SilverSlimer wrote: >> >>> On Thu, 06 Sep 2018 23:57:48 +0000, RonB wrote: >>> >>>> On 2018-09-05, chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote: >>>>> SilverSlimer wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>Soldered-on memory should have died with the 1980s. It's very sad >>>>>>that the Communists at Apple still think that the inability to >>>>>>upgrade or remove faulty memory in exchange for a thinner design is >>>>>>a great deal. >>>>> >>>>> It's classic Apple "form over function" design. They are facing a >>>>> class-action lawsuit over the keyboards on the 2016-now model of >>>>> Macbook Pro. They slightest bit of dust can stop a key from >>>>> working, and they are completely unserviceable - the entire >>>>> keyboard, and a bunch of stuff attached to the bottom of it, must be >>>>> replaced. >>>>> >>>>> A $700 repair, because of Apple's poor design, and the replacement >>>>> you get has the same design problem! >>>>> >>>>> Well, they saved a half a millimeter, over a more-robust keyboard >>>>> design, so it's all "worth it". That's what professionals who spend >>>>> thousands of dollars on a laptop "want", apparently. >>>>> >>>>>>Thunderbolt is a fantastic format that nobody other than Apple is >>>>>>interested in supporting... >>>>> >>>>> No, it's a nice feature on a high-end laptop. Of course, Apple >>>>> again gets it wrong, by making their latest Macbook Pro >>>>> Thunderbolt-only. *No* USB ports! Now, that is just horseshit >>>>> design. >>>> >>>> I had no idea how pathetically designed these MacBook Pros were. What >>>> does this pile of crap sell for? >>> >>> A minimum of twice the price of a similarly-specced PC. >> >> Run a Hackintosh if you lust after a Mac desktop. >> https://www.tonymacx86.com/ > > Personally, zero interest in anything Apple. But... but... improved productivity and error-reduction! -- SilverSlimer FSF Contributor / EFF Member / Free speech advocate Absolute centrist, proud Catholic
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| From | RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-09-07 23:15 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: crApple products |
| Message-ID | <pmv0pq$b2s$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #466222 |
On 2018-09-07, SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> wrote: > On Fri, 07 Sep 2018 03:51:27 +0000, RonB wrote: > >> On 2018-09-07, William Barnes <idonthvanemaildou@mail.com> wrote: >>> On Fri, 07 Sep 2018 00:17:07 GMT, SilverSlimer wrote: >>> >>>> On Thu, 06 Sep 2018 23:57:48 +0000, RonB wrote: >>>> >>>>> On 2018-09-05, chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote: >>>>>> SilverSlimer wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>Soldered-on memory should have died with the 1980s. It's very sad >>>>>>>that the Communists at Apple still think that the inability to >>>>>>>upgrade or remove faulty memory in exchange for a thinner design is >>>>>>>a great deal. >>>>>> >>>>>> It's classic Apple "form over function" design. They are facing a >>>>>> class-action lawsuit over the keyboards on the 2016-now model of >>>>>> Macbook Pro. They slightest bit of dust can stop a key from >>>>>> working, and they are completely unserviceable - the entire >>>>>> keyboard, and a bunch of stuff attached to the bottom of it, must be >>>>>> replaced. >>>>>> >>>>>> A $700 repair, because of Apple's poor design, and the replacement >>>>>> you get has the same design problem! >>>>>> >>>>>> Well, they saved a half a millimeter, over a more-robust keyboard >>>>>> design, so it's all "worth it". That's what professionals who spend >>>>>> thousands of dollars on a laptop "want", apparently. >>>>>> >>>>>>>Thunderbolt is a fantastic format that nobody other than Apple is >>>>>>>interested in supporting... >>>>>> >>>>>> No, it's a nice feature on a high-end laptop. Of course, Apple >>>>>> again gets it wrong, by making their latest Macbook Pro >>>>>> Thunderbolt-only. *No* USB ports! Now, that is just horseshit >>>>>> design. >>>>> >>>>> I had no idea how pathetically designed these MacBook Pros were. What >>>>> does this pile of crap sell for? >>>> >>>> A minimum of twice the price of a similarly-specced PC. >>> >>> Run a Hackintosh if you lust after a Mac desktop. >>> https://www.tonymacx86.com/ >> >> Personally, zero interest in anything Apple. > > But... but... improved productivity and error-reduction! Here's an open secret ... Apple infects your brain and (in extreme cases) turns you into a "Snit." Although I admit his trolling productivity and nym creating productivity is off the charts. Too bad you can't do anything productively useful with an Apple. -- The more I see of Windows, the more I like Linux.
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| From | SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> |
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| Date | 2018-09-07 23:34 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: crApple products |
| Message-ID | <zWDkD.93721$HK2.29863@fx08.iad> |
| In reply to | #466237 |
On Fri, 07 Sep 2018 23:15:06 +0000, RonB wrote: > On 2018-09-07, SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> wrote: >> On Fri, 07 Sep 2018 03:51:27 +0000, RonB wrote: >> >>> On 2018-09-07, William Barnes <idonthvanemaildou@mail.com> wrote: >>>> On Fri, 07 Sep 2018 00:17:07 GMT, SilverSlimer wrote: >>>> >>>>> On Thu, 06 Sep 2018 23:57:48 +0000, RonB wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> On 2018-09-05, chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote: >>>>>>> SilverSlimer wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Soldered-on memory should have died with the 1980s. It's very sad >>>>>>>>that the Communists at Apple still think that the inability to >>>>>>>>upgrade or remove faulty memory in exchange for a thinner design >>>>>>>>is a great deal. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> It's classic Apple "form over function" design. They are facing a >>>>>>> class-action lawsuit over the keyboards on the 2016-now model of >>>>>>> Macbook Pro. They slightest bit of dust can stop a key from >>>>>>> working, and they are completely unserviceable - the entire >>>>>>> keyboard, and a bunch of stuff attached to the bottom of it, must >>>>>>> be replaced. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> A $700 repair, because of Apple's poor design, and the replacement >>>>>>> you get has the same design problem! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Well, they saved a half a millimeter, over a more-robust keyboard >>>>>>> design, so it's all "worth it". That's what professionals who >>>>>>> spend thousands of dollars on a laptop "want", apparently. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Thunderbolt is a fantastic format that nobody other than Apple is >>>>>>>>interested in supporting... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> No, it's a nice feature on a high-end laptop. Of course, Apple >>>>>>> again gets it wrong, by making their latest Macbook Pro >>>>>>> Thunderbolt-only. *No* USB ports! Now, that is just horseshit >>>>>>> design. >>>>>> >>>>>> I had no idea how pathetically designed these MacBook Pros were. >>>>>> What does this pile of crap sell for? >>>>> >>>>> A minimum of twice the price of a similarly-specced PC. >>>> >>>> Run a Hackintosh if you lust after a Mac desktop. >>>> https://www.tonymacx86.com/ >>> >>> Personally, zero interest in anything Apple. >> >> But... but... improved productivity and error-reduction! > > Here's an open secret ... Apple infects your brain and (in extreme > cases) turns you into a "Snit." Although I admit his trolling > productivity and nym creating productivity is off the charts. Too bad > you can't do anything productively useful with an Apple. A human-like creature in Prescott, Arizona spontaneously combusted just now. -- SilverSlimer FSF Contributor / EFF Member / Free speech advocate Absolute centrist, proud Catholic
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